CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

[mkharsh33]

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Since last Monday - one week - positive cases have grown by 900% - almost seems unfathomable at what might happen in the next few weeks. Stay safe, everyone.

[cusefan74]

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Likely I'm not back at work yet this spring (landscaper), but it's just a couple of weeks away so we will see what happens. As for life in general, I mostly stay home anyways but I am a hunter and fisherman and I am fishing as much as possible. I figure I'm pretty safe out on the boat in fresh air. In fact they are telling us it is ok to go fishing, so my life isn't effected to much by this whole thing at this point.

[countryboy]

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Indiana has now joined the movement of shelter in place.

Only essential travel allowed and essential businesses are to remain open.

[slickdtc]

CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

Since last Monday - one week - positive cases have grown by 900% - almost seems unfathomable at what might happen in the next few weeks. Stay safe, everyone.

What’s concerning to me is the death rate among resolved cases (recovered or died). It’s at 70 ****ing percent dying right now. What the hell?!

I understand it’s at like 700 resolved cases of 40000 total, so it’s likely to go down. But I see Italy at 55%/45% and much higher sample size (13000).

Can anyone explain this? Wasn’t the fatality rate supposed to be 3%?!

[Majingir]

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Latest announcement, city is shutting down all non essential businesses.

Closures probably going until at least April.

[jeremym480]

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Does your office have the infrastructure to work remotely?

I can understand needing revenue services, AR, etc for "essential businesses," but having you guys come into the office defeats the purpose.

At least you can still hoop on break, right?

All of our programs are web-based so I don't see why we couldn't do some work from home. I'm not sure if everyone here even has a computer at home but it seems like at least giving those that do an option to work from home some would be nice. The only thing that I can really think of is it would open us up to virus attacks but other than that I can think of many reasons why we need to be here 40 hours a week.

I think the least they could do is go to skeleton crews or on an "on-call" basis for those that really need to be here but as of now all 40-50 of us in accounting are expected to be here all of the time. And all other departments (Executive/Legal, IT, HR, Estimating) have their own buildings, as well as most of them, are about the same size as us. All of this while the order said that no more than 10 people should be gathering... oh and not to mention East Baton Rouge Parish just had their first two Coronavirus related deaths.

I'm sure there would be some challenges but if they were really serious about this then they would be more progressive. Last week we were told that 100 infrared thermometers were ordered and are expected to be here this week so maybe we can send people who running a fever home.

As for your last question, last week some guys (not me) were still working out and playing ball. Our VP sent out an email saying that they're fogging and sterilizing the gym twice a day... How does that really help with community spread? Don't ask me.

It's about control, not functionality. If you let people work from home during a pandemic and there's no drop in production/revenue, once it ends, what's your excuse for taking the option away?

I agree. The thing here is most people have their own specific work. Like in AP one person is assigned their own district. So if they're not doing anything then it's just not getting done and you have to do it sooner or later regardless. That doesn't go for all departments (like Payroll) but it's true for most of us. If they allow it now maybe they're afraid that they will be opening up a can of worms that they can't put back in.

[KSUowls]

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A day after Canada and Australia announce they're not going to the 2020 Olympics, the IOC says they won't happen in summer 2020. 2021 seems likely

So much for my 2021 honeymoon plans. Already been pushed back in 2018 (trying to sell 2 houses), 2019 (partial collapse of Mt. Fuji summit), and 2020 (Tokyo Olympics)....Add 2021 to that list. Maybe 2022? lol

[PVarck31]

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I'm congested and coughing today. The cough feels more like a throaty cough and not a chest cough. Wife says it's post nasal drip. She's always the rational one.

I wish my wife wasn't an essential employee. I think at some point we may have to quarantine ourselves from each other. I see more nursing homes are breaking out with the virus. They have no N95 masks and none coming any time soon.

This whole thing is a nightmare and I can't believe we are living through this.

I don't wanna sound pessimistic, but I think this gets a lot worse before it gets better.

[bcruise]

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What’s concerning to me is the death rate among resolved cases (recovered or died). It’s at 70 ****ing percent dying right now. What the hell?!

I understand it’s at like 700 resolved cases of 40000 total, so it’s likely to go down. But I see Italy at 55%/45% and much higher sample size (13000).

Can anyone explain this? Wasn’t the fatality rate supposed to be 3%?!

Doesn't that usually just go by total cases - ongoing and closed vs. deaths? That number is currently 1.2% - it's that much lower because almost 40,000 confirmed ongoing cases are in mild condition.

[slickdtc]

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There’s always an excuse. Government telling them they can’t because of a health crisis shows nothing will ever be enough to push these places to a remote model of work no matter what.

The only thing that gets through to people is mother****ers dying, and it’s got to be close enough to be felt. We all have a sense of “it can’t happen to us,” but at least that’s our personal choice. Companies forcing employees to congregate when they very ably don’t have to makes me sick. We’re all trying to cut down our exposure to risk, these corps could not care less. What a comforting thought.

What’s funny is companies can’t really hire or train anyone right now so if you’ve got a job, you ain’t getting fired for lack of performance. Obviously tons of people are feeling the squeeze but it’s not due to anything they’ve done.

[slickdtc]

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Doesn't that usually just go by total cases - ongoing and closed vs. deaths? That number is currently 1.2% - it's that much lower because almost 40,000 confirmed ongoing cases are in mild condition.

Not sure. For what it’s worth, China is at 4% and they’re the most far along.

But I look at Italy and they’ve got less total cases and double the amount of China’s deaths.

There’s clearly multiple paths this can go, adding to the uncertainty of... everything.

[mercalnd]

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What’s concerning to me is the death rate among resolved cases (recovered or died). It’s at 70 ****ing percent dying right now. What the hell?!

I understand it’s at like 700 resolved cases of 40000 total, so it’s likely to go down. But I see Italy at 55%/45% and much higher sample size (13000).

Can anyone explain this? Wasn’t the fatality rate supposed to be 3%?!

I think it has to do with how long it takes to be considered as having recovered. Also, Italy has had people dying that would normally have recovered with intensive care or a ventilator but the system was overloaded. That's what all of these measures in the US and Canada are trying to avoid. The death rate stays fairly low as long as the people who need medical care can get it.

[roadman]

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Not sure. For what it’s worth, China is at 4% and they’re the most far along.

But I look at Italy and they’ve got less total cases and double the amount of China’s deaths.

There’s clearly multiple paths this can go, adding to the uncertainty of... everything.

Dr. Fauci said yesterday Italy is in sad shape, they didn't close down early enough.

[pietasterp]

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Since last Monday - one week - positive cases have grown by 900% - almost seems unfathomable at what might happen in the next few weeks. Stay safe, everyone.

This was entirely predictable, and not necessarily a function of more and more people being infected. This is simply a matter of being able to test more, and therefore confirm more cases. That's it. The testing lags the infection rate, and in this particular case, by quite a bit. In other words, all those cases were out there already, we just didn't know about them because we didn't test them.

What’s concerning to me is the death rate among resolved cases (recovered or died). It’s at 70 ****ing percent dying right now. What the hell?!

I understand it’s at like 700 resolved cases of 40000 total, so it’s likely to go down. But I see Italy at 55%/45% and much higher sample size (13000).

Can anyone explain this? Wasn’t the fatality rate supposed to be 3%?!

For one thing, 'resolved cases' is hard to accurately quantify, and I would seriously doubt the metrics on that are even remotely accurate. I think it's safe to assume that every case that doesn't result in a fatality could be considered a 'resolved case', but the true denominator is almost certainly off (and probably by a lot). Although accurate numbers are hard to come by, the mortality rate is low - by almost all legitimate estimates, 1% or less. The truth of the matter is that there are probably millions of cases of exposure in the US alone, and almost all are either minimally symptomatic or otherwise uneventful. We simply don't know the true denominator because we haven't tested every person in the US. I understand people are scared but the mortality rate is not that high and the alarmist outside-the-standard-deviation estimates should be ignored.

I'm congested and coughing today. The cough feels more like a throaty cough and not a chest cough. Wife says it's post nasal drip. She's always the rational one.

I wish my wife wasn't an essential employee. I think at some point we may have to quarantine ourselves from each other. I see more nursing homes are breaking out with the virus. They have no N95 masks and none coming any time soon.

This whole thing is a nightmare and I can't believe we are living through this.

I don't wanna sound pessimistic, but I think this gets a lot worse before it gets better.

It may already be getting better, but the numbers lag the true incidence rate, as it typical of these types of things. The numbers will continue to "look" worse for a while, but again, that's only because the more people you test, the more positive test results you pick up.

I'm not saying this is not an issue to be taken seriously and that all is well, but I hope people are able to keep a level head about what's happening to the best of their ability. The media is not doing anyone any favors on this issue in terms of reporting responsibly and accurately, but that's another story entirely...

[dubcity]

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The "resolved cases" stats should basically be ignored until we are months down the road. I believe to be included in the resolved number you have to test negative multiple times over an extended period. People who recover at home won't be included in that unless they go out of their way to get tested over and over