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  • Entiae
    Flip That Bat!
    • Apr 2008
    • 785

    #61
    Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

    Originally posted by ZO
    This is exactly why it should just be a setting option. Because if its not, its either busted for one set of players or the other.
    I agree completely.

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    • Sneaky Deaky
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 75

      #62
      Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

      Originally posted by Entiae
      Okay, I'm kind of... positive right now.

      I just started a career with Manchester United and simmed the first season. By finishing 9th in the league and going nowhere in the cup competitions, I completely failed a couple of my critical board expectations.

      Yet, here I still am for season 2. Huh.

      I'm not done testing yet, obviously, but this is a good sign I'd say.

      And, I noticed that some teams have low-to-medium expectations across the board, even in the PL. Some teams, like Burney and Sunderland, have a high financial expectation but VL/L/M on the rest.
      That's a plus too.

      I don't like having to run tests every year due to not being able to turn firings off, but I'll try to stay positive.

      edit.
      I just finished season 2. I failed all objectives except financial (which was low anyway).

      I was not fired. I think my manager rating even went up.

      I'm confused. But uh, I'm not complaining.

      edit 2.
      Alright, season 3 is done.
      I didn't bother to re-sign anyone and finished in 16th place.

      I also failed all my objectives (I had no financial objective though).
      My manager rating went from 57 to 36.

      So yeah, guess what happened...

      "We believe that you deserve another chance and would like for you to stay at Man Utd next season."

      Of course I was fir-WHAT?!

      edit 3.
      Season 4. Finished 16th again. Failed everything (only 4 objectives again). My rating went up 3 points somehow.

      I'm still here.

      This has me quite excited!

      Are you serious? That is bloody godamn awesome! You have made me so happy! I want to build a team over time and not be forced into winning the treble in my first season because the board thinks a team that hasn't won a Championship in ten years can suddenly win everything out of the blue.

      I'm no Pep or Luis Enrique

      But, yeah I can agree with ZO. We probably should be fired if we keep screwing up. It's a huge part of football. So there should be an option and it's absurd that we don't have one.

      I still can't believe we can't properly edit players in our manager career. This series has great presentation but it really lacks customization and freedom.

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      • KG
        Welcome Back
        • Sep 2005
        • 17583

        #63
        Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

        Originally posted by BearsNVA
        Now that they have a "system," in place, I'd be happy with an option to decide yourself what the goals are at the beginning of the season, or just leave it alone. Make it easy or make it hard.

        I feel like they add a small layer to CM, but the logic of some are just stupid. I think the bottom line for everything EA FIFA....more customization please and thank you.
        I think it would be pretty cool if you, as the manager, would have to state/declare your goals and then the board would do the same. If you didn't see eye-to-eye on a goal then some kind of compromise "could" be worked out.
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        • evans5150
          Rookie
          • Sep 2012
          • 48

          #64
          Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

          I'll be starting my league with Cardiff City (and a few pints) tonight. This is really exciting news that I may be given time to actually build a team and then get hired to lead a better team on to great things! BLUEBIRDS!!!

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          • koszak27
            Rookie
            • Sep 2012
            • 85

            #65
            Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

            One thing that is realistic this year:

            Prior to selecting the team you want to manage, you can at least see the goals and what's expected of you before accepting the job. In previous years (...14,15,16) you would take the job before finding out what you needed to accomplish.
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            • BearsNVA
              Rookie
              • Aug 2012
              • 302

              #66
              Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

              Originally posted by koszak27
              One thing that is realistic this year:

              Prior to selecting the team you want to manage, you can at least see the goals and what's expected of you before accepting the job. In previous years (...14,15,16) you would take the job before finding out what you needed to accomplish.
              Yeah, but they change and sometimes it can get tricky. I have finances and sign a top forward. They don't exactly match, lol. My goals year one were okay, then year two I had to shell out major money.......and have a profit. For Grimsby in league 2 that's kinda difficult. I got good player, now I have to make major money to pull me out of the red.

              I guess it's realistic to a certain degree, but it also seems like the board set me up to flop a major goal.

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              • koszak27
                Rookie
                • Sep 2012
                • 85

                #67
                Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                You're right, I should have said that it is now more realistic. We can see what's expected us of before choosing the team as compared to other years where we sign with a team and wait for an email about our league and cup requirements (which could have been altered depending on your starting XI).

                It seems less black and white now with some wiggle room on most objectives.
                "Robert De Niro would be good. I've heard that's who they want to play me." Claudio Ranieri

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                • BearsNVA
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 302

                  #68
                  Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                  Originally posted by koszak27
                  You're right, I should have said that it is now more realistic. We can see what's expected us of before choosing the team as compared to other years where we sign with a team and wait for an email about our league and cup requirements (which could have been altered depending on your starting XI).

                  It seems less black and white now with some wiggle room on most objectives.
                  I'm in season two and one thing that is worrying me, is that the objectives get harder. Some will say, "The farther you go, the harder it SHOULD get."

                  It's more realistic in the sense, "my board is making actual demands of me," but the demands they are giving me are insane. I'm following through with them, but they don't give ANY info.

                  For instance I had to sign a top player at the forward position. "Top player," for League 2 standards? World standards? 60 rated team standards?

                  I saved my game so i could go back if I needed to. I think I ended up spending too much money because I (again,) I didn't know what "top" was being defined as. I signed a 71 rated ST for 4mill, and a 12k weekly salary. I'm in the red because of the transaction, and won't meet my "major," demand in finances. Had they said, "A top league two player," I could have done so and saved money.

                  I don't know. The lack of information makes me feel like I'm throwing darts blindfolded after I've been spun in a circle.......In the end I don't even know if I'm facing the dart board when I throw.

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                  • lordvader110
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 17

                    #69
                    Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    The most frustrating thing in FIFA is doing all the work to scout and build a youth squad and then inevitable get fired and have to start completely over with another team.

                    Don't get fired then.

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                    • koszak27
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 85

                      #70
                      Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                      Originally posted by BearsNVA
                      For instance I had to sign a top player at the forward position. "Top player," for League 2 standards? World standards? 60 rated team standards?
                      Yea that is a very vague objective. The only one I've had close to that was to sign a forward to a Crucial 1st Team contract.

                      In my Leyton Orient career I've gotten through March 2017 and I only have the last 4 or 5 April games left to simulate. Managing the youth academy and player training takes awhile and if I simulate through the calendar, the computer will start all my high rated real players instead of my youth products.

                      We are in 15th in the table and out of all cups but my rating is currently at 81. It went as low as 61 around October or November and the number even showed red. I also got an email around this time saying that I was not on track to meet my high priority goal of winning the league and I needed to change things. My youth players have grown quite a bit through the season now so we are getting some better results.

                      Fingers crossed I am not fired and haven't wasted 3 hours of my life on this team...
                      "Robert De Niro would be good. I've heard that's who they want to play me." Claudio Ranieri

                      "It is amazing how many drivers think that the brakes are for slowing the car down."
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                      • BearsNVA
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 302

                        #71
                        Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                        Originally posted by koszak27
                        Yea that is a very vague objective. The only one I've had close to that was to sign a forward to a Crucial 1st Team contract.

                        In my Leyton Orient career I've gotten through March 2017 and I only have the last 4 or 5 April games left to simulate. Managing the youth academy and player training takes awhile and if I simulate through the calendar, the computer will start all my high rated real players instead of my youth products.

                        We are in 15th in the table and out of all cups but my rating is currently at 81. It went as low as 61 around October or November and the number even showed red. I also got an email around this time saying that I was not on track to meet my high priority goal of winning the league and I needed to change things. My youth players have grown quite a bit through the season now so we are getting some better results.

                        Fingers crossed I am not fired and haven't wasted 3 hours of my life on this team...
                        I'll be interested to see how you fair with the "winning the league," if you don't. I have never met the winning aspect, but I was only supposed to hit the mid table mark.

                        So far it seems better than years before. However, the lack of detail in most board demands will make some more difficult to meet.

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                        • BearsNVA
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 302

                          #72
                          Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                          Originally posted by BearsNVA
                          I'll be interested to see how you fair with the "winning the league," if you don't. I have never met the winning aspect, but I was only supposed to hit the mid table mark.

                          So far it seems better than years before. However, the lack of detail in most board demands will make some more difficult to meet.
                          Oh, one more tjing. You said your rating went into the red, but now it's 81. I've noticed sometimes it says 81 for absolutely no reason, then all of the sudden it shows up atmthe,real lower rating. Also, if you financial demands, like "transfer funds need to be above xxxxxx by the end of the season," you can adjust your budget to meet that goal. I was in the red at one point, adjusted the budget, and I bounced up into the safe zone.

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                          • koszak27
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 85

                            #73
                            Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                            If I remember correctly, it was a red 61 and I got the email from the board around the same time. I had been ignoring the manager rating because it didn't seem to make sense; going down when I won and going up for what seemed like no reason. Shortly after getting the email, we won 2 games in a row and after simming the week, it jumped up to 74 in black again.

                            My only objective higher than low (4), was domestic success with winning League 2 and finishing in the round of 32 which were a high rating (2). The two low objectives I had were to increase ticket sales by 20% over two years and to sign 5 youth players and have them play at least a few games as starters or off the bench.

                            Update:
                            I finished the season and before I get to what happened, let me give my specific objectives because I had a few wrong. These were the Leyton Orient obejctives for season 1:

                            Youth (Low, 4)
                            Sign a player from the youth academy at the defense position. - Complete


                            Brand (Low, 4)

                            Play 5 consecutive home games with at least 85% attendance. - Complete

                            Financial (Very Low, 5)
                            None.

                            Domestic (High, 2)
                            Win English Football League 2 title. - Not Completed
                            Reach the FA Cup Round of 32. - Complete

                            Continental (Very Low, 5)
                            None.

                            We finished the season in 12th, 13 points out of the last promotion playoff spot but we completed every other objective the board gave us. At the end of the season we were not fired and received an email that said something like, "It wasn't the season we wanted but it was still a success and we think you are the right man for the job."

                            Our goals for the 2nd season are now exactly the same except for a few different youth objectives.
                            Last edited by koszak27; 10-04-2016, 06:02 AM. Reason: Updated
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                            • flo182
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 260

                              #74
                              Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                              So we're not getting fired that easily anymore?

                              I was really afraid because I put a lot of effort in my first season but some of the objectives seem bugged.

                              Financial goals : reduce wages by 100.000$

                              I haven't achieved this but I generated a 30 million plus in the winter transfer window, so financially the team should be stable :/

                              Youth Development: Sign 2 players with a potential of >75 and play them 10 games.

                              I've signed a few players and let them play a few games but I still get the message that I'm missing the objective and I dont know why.

                              Same with the youth players development. They said I should improve them by at least 10 points and I'm not sure if they mean combined 10 points or 10 points for each player (which seems unrealistically high if I also want to train other players during the season)

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                              • koszak27
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 85

                                #75
                                Re: I wonder if there will be an option to turn off getting fired

                                I'm sure there is some type of formula but I failed my only high rated objective and survived. I also met every other goal so it's hard to tell what it would take to be axed.

                                I would just focus on whichever objectives they have as highest priority and if you can't meet those just make sure you complete all the others.

                                For the record, I ended with a manager rating of 70 for the season and started the second year with that 70 rating. At one point in mid April after two consecutive losses, I was a 69 rating and the number was red.
                                "Robert De Niro would be good. I've heard that's who they want to play me." Claudio Ranieri

                                "It is amazing how many drivers think that the brakes are for slowing the car down."
                                Mario Andretti

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