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  • JHG90
    Rookie
    • Dec 2016
    • 143

    #1516
    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

    Originally posted by neyetroglys
    As much as I would like to play on Slow, it's hard with the wingers and fullbacks letting up on defense as your player is heading toward their box. Seeing it very little on Normal, but the "herky-jerky" animation is tough to withstand. Anyone else seeing defensive let ups on Slow?
    Yeah, definitely. It's certainly not as frequent or as noticeable as it used to be, but at times it's still still too easy to bomb down the wings knowing that the AI is either going to take a horrible angle - often running towards where you just came from, or switch from sprint to jockey, sprint to jockey and watching you fly by them. I'm often able get all the way into a crossing position or 1v1 with the keeper, but on Legendary the AI defence almost always does a really good job of cutting off easy passing lanes into the box, and imo the keeper's are way better at stopping shots from 45 degree angles or less. Kinda feel like EA weren't sure how to stop the bad wing defence so they increased it inside the area instead.

    All in all, these instances are at least less common than they used to be. I've learned to live with it as I can't stand playing on normal.
    Last edited by JHG90; 11-27-2019, 04:21 AM.

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    • TopSide83
      MVP
      • Sep 2016
      • 1400

      #1517
      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

      Originally posted by neyetroglys
      As much as I would like to play on Slow, it's hard with the wingers and fullbacks letting up on defense as your player is heading toward their box. Seeing it very little on Normal, but the "herky-jerky" animation is tough to withstand. Anyone else seeing defensive let ups on Slow?
      Yes.. I’ve completely given up on playing on slow. I get destroyed trying to play defense.

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      • JHG90
        Rookie
        • Dec 2016
        • 143

        #1518
        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

        PSA the console update just dropped.

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        • 1860fan
          Pro
          • Dec 2014
          • 696

          #1519
          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

          why was it deleted for what reason? and what update

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          • 1860fan
            Pro
            • Dec 2014
            • 696

            #1520
            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

            as I just read the patch would have to be there on console or? Has anyone already tested it?

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            • Bure10Beezer34
              Pro
              • Sep 2009
              • 551

              #1521
              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

              Hey all, been a long time! Been reading this thread for the last month or so. Just downloaded the trial this week and purchased the game today. Have about 10 games played with the sliders. I tried legendary first and it played pretty well, tried WC on slow and it plays ok. The only issue I have seen is the "herky-jerky" stuff that was mentioned above as well as some odd angles and jogging?

              Like I said I have tried to keep up with the thread over the last month, will continue to do my own testing but the part I got lost on was for awhile it seemed like playing on Normal corrected a few things but it seems Normal isn't totally necessary anymore? Just curious if I missed something in translation. Anyway, glad to be back, appreciate all the hard work, the game is playing well and I have enjoyed the randomness/ugliness of the football I am seeing in my League 1(Portsmouth) player career. Guessing the beautiful game will shine in higher level leagues. Cheers!

              Edit: Also, in fairness, I thought some of the poor AI decision making(angles/jogging, etc.) was due to playing in a lower league. But I haven't tested in higher leagues so I have nothing to go off of it. Just a thought.
              Last edited by Bure10Beezer34; 11-27-2019, 10:01 AM.

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              • Matt10
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2006
                • 16621

                #1522
                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                Originally posted by Bure10Beezer34
                Hey all, been a long time! Been reading this thread for the last month or so. Just downloaded the trial this week and purchased the game today. Have about 10 games played with the sliders. I tried legendary first and it played pretty well, tried WC on slow and it plays ok. The only issue I have seen is the "herky-jerky" stuff that was mentioned above as well as some odd angles and jogging?

                Like I said I have tried to keep up with the thread over the last month, will continue to do my own testing but the part I got lost on was for awhile it seemed like playing on Normal corrected a few things but it seems Normal isn't totally necessary anymore? Just curious if I missed something in translation. Anyway, glad to be back, appreciate all the hard work, the game is playing well and I have enjoyed the randomness/ugliness of the football I am seeing in my League 1(Portsmouth) player career. Guessing the beautiful game will shine in higher level leagues. Cheers!
                Hey B10, good to see ya.

                Normal helps with the reactions a bit, but Slow is playable as well. I've been playing Slow for the last couple patch updates and have not had any significant issues.

                Some very slight issues occur with Pro and World Class though. However, some of those issues have been lessened with the suggested acceleration discrepancy.

                What I think is solid about the sliders is the composition of line settings with the lower FB value. This makes it less about constantly playing down the sides and beating a FB 1v1. It can happen, but it's not as much as it was previously.

                Personally, I feel most comfortable playing on Legendary difficulty, but am also enjoying my games on Pro and WC for testing.
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                • neyetroglys
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 78

                  #1523
                  Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                  Originally posted by JHG90
                  Yeah, definitely. It's certainly not as frequent or as noticeable as it used to be, but at times it's still still too easy to bomb down the wings knowing that the AI is either going to take a horrible angle - often running towards where you just came from, or switch from sprint to jockey, sprint to jockey and watching you fly by them. I'm often able get all the way into a crossing position or 1v1 with the keeper, but on Legendary the AI defence almost always does a really good job of cutting off easy passing lanes into the box, and imo the keeper's are way better at stopping shots from 45 degree angles or less. Kinda feel like EA weren't sure how to stop the bad wing defence so they increased it inside the area instead.

                  All in all, these instances are at least less common than they used to be. I've learned to live with it as I can't stand playing on normal.
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                  • Bure10Beezer34
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 551

                    #1524
                    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                    Originally posted by Matt10
                    Hey B10, good to see ya.

                    Normal helps with the reactions a bit, but Slow is playable as well. I've been playing Slow for the last couple patch updates and have not had any significant issues.

                    Some very slight issues occur with Pro and World Class though. However, some of those issues have been lessened with the suggested acceleration discrepancy.

                    What I think is solid about the sliders is the composition of line settings with the lower FB value. This makes it less about constantly playing down the sides and beating a FB 1v1. It can happen, but it's not as much as it was previously.

                    Personally, I feel most comfortable playing on Legendary difficulty, but am also enjoying my games on Pro and WC for testing.
                    Thanks for the response Matt! I appreciate all the hard work and your time as well.

                    I might give legendary/slow another go then. Will probably just stick with OS current sliders as they are playing really well for me.

                    I also can see what you're saying about the line settings allowing more central play. I have been seeing this a lot and enjoying it. Yes you can still find success down the wings when the opportunity arises but playing central works really well so I agree that the current slider set is pretty balanced in that regard.

                    Seeing players on both teams making mistakes, bobble the ball, become unbalanced with physical play, just all these little things are really creating an organic feeling game which I am totally digging right now with this set. Well done!!!

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                    • sih1984
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 88

                      #1525
                      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                      I continued with slow with the discrepancy on acceleration on ultimate after discussing with Matt but had go back to normal after a bit more testing. It's far too easy just to dribble straight through the AI. At certain angles they just wont chase you, or one player will jog alongside and the others will watch. Ultimately the ai defence is so passive and get quick decent dribbler and you can get in on goal so easily just by running in a different line to them.

                      I tried making the acceleration discrepancy even bigger but then the ai just go mad and it looks ridiculous.

                      Had to go back to normal which is too fast but the ai defend properly. I've managed to slow it down by sticking ft error up to 90 which seems the best work around.

                      Will try with new patch but sounds like it's not much different

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                      • Matt10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 16621

                        #1526
                        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                        Originally posted by Bure10Beezer34
                        Thanks for the response Matt! I appreciate all the hard work and your time as well.

                        I might give legendary/slow another go then. Will probably just stick with OS current sliders as they are playing really well for me.

                        I also can see what you're saying about the line settings allowing more central play. I have been seeing this a lot and enjoying it. Yes you can still find success down the wings when the opportunity arises but playing central works really well so I agree that the current slider set is pretty balanced in that regard.

                        Seeing players on both teams making mistakes, bobble the ball, become unbalanced with physical play, just all these little things are really creating an organic feeling game which I am totally digging right now with this set. Well done!!!
                        Yeah, the midfield is there, and the attention being central is good to then have the outlets to the wings - as it should be. Glad to hear you're enjoying it.

                        Originally posted by sih1984
                        I continued with slow with the discrepancy on acceleration on ultimate after discussing with Matt but had go back to normal after a bit more testing. It's far too easy just to dribble straight through the AI. At certain angles they just wont chase you, or one player will jog alongside and the others will watch. Ultimately the ai defence is so passive and get quick decent dribbler and you can get in on goal so easily just by running in a different line to them.

                        I tried making the acceleration discrepancy even bigger but then the ai just go mad and it looks ridiculous.

                        Had to go back to normal which is too fast but the ai defend properly. I've managed to slow it down by sticking ft error up to 90 which seems the best work around.

                        Will try with new patch but sounds like it's not much different
                        As I mentioned it will be lessened, but not 100% gone. If you intentionally seek it out, there will be a high chance of exploiting the AI's conservative defense. In testing, I can take my keeper and dribble through an entire team. Thankfully, as much as I love the movie Mean Machine, I won't be in a position to do that.

                        At the end of the day, it just depends on what feels good. Personally I like Legendary, and feel I'll be there for a while. I have issues with pro and WC more so for the random CPU defensive players freezing or not reacting. Their issues seem to be a poor input data and response from the right analog stick, so I do not think sliders - or any settings - will be able to fix that.
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                        • djs1
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 673

                          #1527
                          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                          Originally posted by Matt10
                          Yeah, the midfield is there, and the attention being central is good to then have the outlets to the wings - as it should be. Glad to hear you're enjoying it.



                          As I mentioned it will be lessened, but not 100% gone. If you intentionally seek it out, there will be a high chance of exploiting the AI's conservative defense. In testing, I can take my keeper and dribble through an entire team. Thankfully, as much as I love the movie Mean Machine, I won't be in a position to do that.

                          At the end of the day, it just depends on what feels good. Personally I like Legendary, and feel I'll be there for a while. I have issues with pro and WC more so for the random CPU defensive players freezing or not reacting. Their issues seem to be a poor input data and response from the right analog stick, so I do not think sliders - or any settings - will be able to fix that.
                          well i think i have the solution to those who easily exploit the wings,all you have to do is become old with poor eyesight and suffer from extreme tiredness due to kids running you ragged.Works for me!.Seriously though i honestly dont have those issues on a consistent basis,certainly not on legendary slow.Finding it a great challenge against the better sides.I think its all relative,those who are really good at the game will find ways to exploit and others just arent as aware.
                          Last edited by djs1; 11-27-2019, 04:07 PM.

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                          • jrnlgrn
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2018
                            • 3076

                            #1528
                            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                            Played 6 games with the patch WC/Slow/10 min/OP set. One game each using Watford and Eibar and four games in my St. Pauli CM. Haven't had any noticeable issues so far. As far as I can tell everything plays exactly as it did before. Some ground passes look a tad bit fast but it's not enough to change any values and there is a small increase in pass error when under pressure (that's mentioned in the patch notes). As it stands right now I wouldn't change anything at this time.
                            "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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                            • pfgosher
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 120

                              #1529
                              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                              Matt and all others who have contributed thanks for the sliders.I am enjoying a lot.For the first time it has happened that I am not restarting matches lot often. With the recent patch n slider adjustments played 3-4 games. First 2 games even though I felt I was dominating with the way I was creating chances after chances the stats didnt showed that much except for shot count. Won by maybe 4-0 or 5-0 margin. The next game won by 4-1 margin n still I have not yet changed the acceleration slider. N then I got the surprise the next game won by a slender margin of 1-0. So mostly it depends on how the CPU sets his team up. Will try more games n then see if I need Acce discrepancy or not.
                              Thanks again for the sliders n wonderful journey

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                              • jcas007
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 608

                                #1530
                                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                                I used your sliders last year on pro level and they worked great ,do you think these will be the same

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