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  • RoyceDa59
    Chillin
    • Aug 2003
    • 3830

    #241
    Re: PES 2017 Tactics

    Originally posted by DirtyCobra
    Thanks..the problem is, every time I shut off the Live Update the next day I play an exhibition game they automatically turn on again....
    I know it can be intrusive, I don't think there is a way to have Live Updates turned off permanently.

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    • DirtyCobra
      Pro
      • Mar 2009
      • 620

      #242
      Re: PES 2017 Tactics

      Originally posted by RoyceDa59
      I know it can be intrusive, I don't think there is a way to have Live Updates turned off permanently.
      Not sure, I have looked and tried but it keeps coming back on..A bit of a Pain in the a$$. Not sure if there is a work around for this.

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      • bredfan
        Rookie
        • Aug 2007
        • 92

        #243
        Re: PES 2017 Tactics

        Originally posted by RoyceDa59
        I know it can be intrusive, I don't think there is a way to have Live Updates turned off permanently.
        Does turning off auto log-in in network options work to stop live updates?

        The first thing I do with PES every year is shut that off just to decrease the loading times. Unfortunately, if you play MyClub playing "offline" means no "XP" for doing little things in the game.

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        • RoyceDa59
          Chillin
          • Aug 2003
          • 3830

          #244
          Re: PES 2017 Tactics

          Originally posted by bredfan
          Does turning off auto log-in in network options work to stop live updates?

          The first thing I do with PES every year is shut that off just to decrease the loading times. Unfortunately, if you play MyClub playing "offline" means no "XP" for doing little things in the game.
          It doesn't unfortunately which doesn't make sense, the only work around would be is to log off of PSN completely.

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          • bredfan
            Rookie
            • Aug 2007
            • 92

            #245
            Re: PES 2017 Tactics

            Originally posted by RoyceDa59
            It doesn't unfortunately which doesn't make sense, the only work around would be is to log off of PSN completely.
            Ah. Well that's a bummer. Makes no sense at all.

            Instead of logging out completely you could just toggle your net connection on/off through the "network tab" in the console settings. But yeah, still not ideal.

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            • Gnemi
              Rookie
              • Jan 2012
              • 1519

              #246
              Re: PES 2017 Tactics

              I asked this question in the PES 2017 option file thread, but I'll chime in here to see if you guys can assist with the FAQ portion of that thread. There are so many questions around how to apply tactics to existing bins, etc.

              I've made only league, roster, kits so far, but really want to apply tactical edits as well. It's just super confusing as to where I'd even begin that process.

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              • Krebstar
                is looking at stats.
                • May 2005
                • 12904

                #247
                Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                Originally posted by papinho81
                Krebstar,

                I have noticed that most (all?) your team tactics have their CF, SS, WF quite low on the team tactic sheet on possession. It doesn't seem to prevent those teams from attacking and my feeling is that it helps the team that have short pass tactics to not by pass the midfield to often.

                Could you explain a bit your reasoning with these forwards rather low positioning?
                Do you mean the forwards are closer to midfield than they are to the oppositions goal/box?

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                • papinho81
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 673

                  #248
                  Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                  Originally posted by Krebstar
                  Do you mean the forwards are closer to midfield than they are to the oppositions goal/box?
                  Yes, exactly that. Sorry if it was not clear...

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                  • Tinker
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 68

                    #249
                    Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                    How do you guys also interprete Containment Area? I see it this way:
                    • Wide means the team get compact and defend the centre, driving opposition to the wings.
                    • Middle means the team try to occupy wings with a number of players and drive opposition to the middle.


                    So, quite counterintuitive. And if so, does the Middle make any sense? Teams always try to defend centre, don't they?

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                    • Krebstar
                      is looking at stats.
                      • May 2005
                      • 12904

                      #250
                      Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                      Originally posted by papinho81
                      Yes, exactly that. Sorry if it was not clear...
                      No worries—the goal is just to get players closer together, and to stop frantic attacks from happening. Or long ground passes from the midfield up to a forward ready to attack if the team is more possession based.

                      Does it work out perfectly? Nope, but that was the thought behind it.

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                      • papinho81
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 673

                        #251
                        Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                        Here is a Barcelona tactic I am quite happy with:






                        Attacking instructions:
                        Att Style: Possession game
                        Build Up: Short-pass
                        Att Area: Wide
                        Positioning: Flexible
                        Support range:2

                        Defensive Instructions:
                        Def Styles: Frontline Pressure
                        Contain Area: Middle
                        Pressuring: Aggressive
                        Def Line:8
                        Compactness:5

                        Advanced Instruction:
                        Attack1: Tiki-Taka
                        Attack2: Hug the Touchline
                        Def1: Gegenpress
                        Def2: Counter Target --> CF (Suarez)


                        The possession style is not as cool as in real life, but they are passing to the back even when close to the penalty area. Messi positioning is quite good also, he often tries to help construction in the midfield. Their defense is improved too, it is less porous than with their default tactic.

                        Here are stats line of a game I played with chelsea against them. They really managed to retain possession as they should. (25 min, 0 speed, super star)





                        PS: my Messi is 95 because I increased his endurance (+4) and long ball ability (+5?)
                        Last edited by papinho81; 10-08-2016, 02:48 AM.

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                        • dmendenhall_9
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 260

                          #252
                          Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                          Question for you guys: What difficulty are you playing on?

                          The build-up play is much more significant on Top Player than on Super Star. Check out the video I made and give it a try. When I played against Top Player they had 53% possession then when I played against Super Star I think they had 40% possession when I quit the game.

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qXumLiVZv4M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                          I am going to go with Top Player for now and hopefully it is difficult enough. At times it seems more difficult than Super Star just because they are less aggressive and don't get into as bad positions.
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                          • jb12780
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 10665

                            #253
                            Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                            Krebs,

                            I've made the changes for Arsenal, but why do my formations look so different in comparison to yours?





                            It also seems to me that if you have different formations in and out of possession, the position of the players gets screwed up.

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                            Last edited by jb12780; 10-08-2016, 09:25 AM.
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                            • klashman69
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 30

                              #254
                              Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                              HI GUYS

                              Says i need to get to 5 posts to hotlink a video

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                              • klashman69
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 30

                                #255
                                Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                                Originally posted by dmendenhall_9
                                Question for you guys: What difficulty are you playing on?

                                The build-up play is much more significant on Top Player than on Super Star. Check out the video I made and give it a try. When I played against Top Player they had 53% possession then when I played against Super Star I think they had 40% possession when I quit the game.

                                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qXumLiVZv4M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                                I am going to go with Top Player for now and hopefully it is difficult enough. At times it seems more difficult than Super Star just because they are less aggressive and don't get into as bad positions.
                                Hi, i saw this video and the other ones you made, there is issues here with the positioning of your formations, how the positions transition on fluid formation must work in harmony with the tactical sliders you have set.

                                For example teams who high press need to have their positioning set to high up the pitch so they retain suitable positions to manifest the high press. If you move all the players back like many of you here seem to be doing its counter productive, actually makes the game easier and a bit of a mess like in the Benfica v Sporting match on your channel.

                                I'll try to get to 5 posts so i can post my premier league which TTB is using in his master league with leicester. I saw your premier league tactics and i basically disagreed with literally all of them lol sorry but the game has had a similar tatcis system since 2015 and i've learned over the last 2 games how important it is to set teams up holistically.
                                Last edited by klashman69; 10-08-2016, 03:40 PM.

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