***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

[ZM Punk]

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I'm telling you guys. Arsene Wengers arrogance is going to kill this team. He honestly thinks that he can win with anybody. Just no excuse to not spend money when you have it. Especially with as many glaring holes as this team had coming into this season.

[goonertaff]

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I am sick of Gallas. Absolutely sick. He pushed up all game and Middlesbrough sent long pass after long pass to whomever decided to take advantage of Gallas's foolish offensive runs and the pass-receiver would magically find themselves behind the Arsenal defense. This needs to stop.

its a real joy coming on this board and reading your views, its makes a refreshing change to see what you guys see instead of listening to the idiots in the UK who want fire wenger and "get someone better" land "sell Cesc he's ****" these are also the same people who wanted to sell Henry and now blaim Wenger for "selling Henry" lol

as to Gallas making surging runs into midfield and trying to take control of a game that is what a leader should do , dont get me wrong im no fan of gallas he's 30 going on 12 years old in my book, but he is trying

as to the long ball passing the fault there lies with the midfield not pressuring the ball
its almost impossible to play the off side trap if theres no pressure on the passer and once again the defense was left hanging with its arse in the wind.

zitomulder as to Wengers Arrogance its what he believes in and hes comitted to his convictions(can i say that lol), id love to see a star or two in January but it isnt going to happen and the only holes we had coming into the season was a lack of quality depth which funny enough is now a problem as half the first team is out and the other half is just getting back from Injury.

and to whoever compared Arsenal to Totingscum
DONT DO IT AGAIN
theirs been a fued between the two clubs since 1913 and I dont think you fully understand how offensive that statement is and if you want to support Arsenal I'd suggest a less controversial comparision

say any other team in the world including Chelsea or Man Utd
an accurate comparision this season would be Hull.

[ZM Punk]

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Well he might need to rethink those convictions, because they sure aren't conducive to winning anything. I also think that we sure could have used a body at holding midfielder before this season. I can think of quite a few players that could have came in here and been an upgrade to Song and Denilson.

[rsnomar05]

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Well he might need to rethink those convictions, because they sure aren't conducive to winning anything. I also think that we sure could have used a body at holding midfielder before this season. I can think of quite a few players that could have came in here and been an upgrade to Song and Denilson.

I think Wenger's strategy could pay off if the team develops together and, being young, has years and years of dominance. The problem is that it only works if guys stay with the team. You can't have guys like Hleb and Flamini leave. I'll make a baseball comparison to the Tampa Bay Rays. They are going to trot out the same team next year. They are young, dominant, and their young stars stay with the team. There comes a point in time where you have to have developed. After years and years of developing with no results, you just plain stink. If before next season no one leaves and Wenger adds a few pieces, fine. But if more players leave, Wenger needs to rethink his strategy and start splashing the cash.

[goonertaff]

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I think Wenger's strategy could pay off if the team develops together and, being young, has years and years of dominance. The problem is that it only works if guys stay with the team. You can't have guys like Hleb and Flamini leave. I'll make a baseball comparison to the Tampa Bay Rays. They are going to trot out the same team next year. They are young, dominant, and their young stars stay with the team. There comes a point in time where you have to have developed. After years and years of developing with no results, you just plain stink. If before next season no one leaves and Wenger adds a few pieces, fine. But if more players leave, Wenger needs to rethink his strategy and start splashing the cash.

excellent point unfortunatly Wenger is fixated on not buying ready made players and giving youth a chance, I hope as do we all that im wrong and 2 senior squad players come in

[ZM Punk]

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I think Wenger's strategy could pay off if the team develops together and, being young, has years and years of dominance. The problem is that it only works if guys stay with the team. You can't have guys like Hleb and Flamini leave. I'll make a baseball comparison to the Tampa Bay Rays. They are going to trot out the same team next year. They are young, dominant, and their young stars stay with the team. There comes a point in time where you have to have developed. After years and years of developing with no results, you just plain stink. If before next season no one leaves and Wenger adds a few pieces, fine. But if more players leave, Wenger needs to rethink his strategy and start splashing the cash.

What makes you think when looking at Arsene's history, that he will actually keep all the young players he has now?

[Acid]

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I'll take the draw given the circumstances with Cesc getting hurt and Adebayor getting sent off. I'm glad Wenger brought on Eboue at the end and that the crowd cheered for him. It's a good confidence booster for him.

[goonertaff]

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What makes you think when looking at Arsene's history, that he will actually keep all the young players he has now?

name one player thats gone on to do bigger and better things since leaving The Arse under Wenger?

[ZM Punk]

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I think that has a lot more to do with the players leaving the system rather than Arsene just magically knowing when every player has reached their peak as a player.

[rsnomar05]

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I'll take the draw given the circumstances with Cesc getting hurt and Adebayor getting sent off. I'm glad Wenger brought on Eboue at the end and that the crowd cheered for him. It's a good confidence booster for him.

What a bogus send-off, to. And given the way Arsenal played, if they weren't down to ten, I think they might have won.

[goonertaff]

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I think that has a lot more to do with the players leaving the system rather than Arsene just magically knowing when every player has reached their peak as a player.

really well to the two big names from recent times Viera and Henry everyone said it was a disaster and yet neither player has much if anything left

Viera has playd 50 odd games in 3 seasons in Italy
Henry had a terrrible season last year and in the 4 games ive seen of there's this year hes been solid even though barca are winning every game by about 14 goals

Overmars is the only player thats really gone off and done anything and Anelka is the only player that forced his way out(maybe Diarra but he always said hed be playing for Madrid))

The worry is how long Cesc stays before a £40 million bid from Barca arrives in the post?

but as ever Wenger will find another one another world class player from somewhere odds are he's on the team already Vela, Ramsey Diaby? who knows

[Mo]

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Looks like Cesc will be out for around 4 months because of medial ligament damage to his right knee.

[Qb]

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Looks like Cesc will be out for around 4 months because of medial ligament damage to his right knee.

Merry Christmas, fellow gooners.

[ZM Punk]

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If we don't make any significant signings this January after this Cesc injury. I may be done with Arsenal.

Think teams are cherry picking our players now. Just wait until we have no Champions League to offer our players. It will be just like Christmas for Milan, Barca, and Madrid; and Arsenal will be their own personal Macy's.

[Acid]

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Give Ramsey a shot.

If our midfield consists of Nasri, Eboue, Denilson, and Song I'm going to kill someone.