***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

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https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1291010691617488896?s=20




IF this is true (not sure how reliable he is) do you think this will impact transfer business this window?


Apparently I have no idea how to post a tweet to make it show up so just the link is showing for now.

No, since KSE took control they've continuously cut costs in terms of running the club (there was the famous club-wide memo that leaked), and we still spent plenty of money last Summer. If anything, I think this is to maintain the ability to spend on new players.

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Getting Ozil's outrageous wages off the books would be a big help wouldn't it?

Looks like Arteta won't play him so is Ozil just happy to sit out an entire season collecting his pay packet? Is he willing to go elsewhere at all?

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Getting Ozil's outrageous wages off the books would be a big help wouldn't it?

Looks like Arteta won't play him so is Ozil just happy to sit out an entire season collecting his pay packet? Is he willing to go elsewhere at all?

He’s happy in London.

But the bigger issue is his 350K/week. No suitors to pay that, especially considering his performance (or lack thereof) the past few seasons.

It’s an absolute nightmare scenario.


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For those who have The Athletic, there was an article posted yesterday about the Ozil situation. Seems like he's going to do everything he can to see how his contract. The article hinted at Ozil's camp thinking the decision not to play him comes from above the manager.

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Getting Ozil's outrageous wages off the books would be a big help wouldn't it?

Looks like Arteta won't play him so is Ozil just happy to sit out an entire season collecting his pay packet? Is he willing to go elsewhere at all?

I get that Ozil is popular fodder, but it's a Kroenke thing

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Ozil is also the only Arsenal player to not agree to a pay cut.

I can not wait until he’s gone, but it’ll most likely be another year.

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Ozil is also the only Arsenal player to not agree to a pay cut.

I can not wait until he’s gone, but it’ll most likely be another year.

Didn't he not agree because he had questions on what the club was going to do financially going forward that he wanted answered first? From the Atheltic article..

The other event during lockdown that bought Ozil’s relations with Arsenal into focus was the club’s proposed pay cut. Ozil’s camp requested more time and more information about how this would impact on the club’s spending capacities. Ozil was willing to take a bigger share of a pay cut but was unwilling to sign up for the conditions Arsenal laid out without more detail. The club wanted everyone to be in it together and, in the end, there was only one outlier.*

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Yeah I've seen enough BS on twitter aimed at Ozil and even Willian for being on high wages when the club is letting 55 people go. It's funny because Willian isn't even there yet but how can you get mad at a player for collecting what they negotiated and not the club who was obviously negligent somewhere along the lines in their operational setup.

I won't even pretend to know Arsenal's financial situation but 99.9% of the time I'll side with players, especially when we're dealing with billionaire owners.

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Yeah Ozil asking for clarification on what the pay cut is doing and never getting a clear cut answer is still really weird to me, in addition to the fact that they said they were in line with most other clubs, but they are doing a 12-month pay cut, instead of what was the typical 3. It all felt weird at the beginning and only got weirder when it seemed like they couldn't give Ozil a straight answer on what the money saved would be doing. It wouldn't surprise me if he had taken the paycut, and these 55 employees would still have met their demise.

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Oof at Francis Cagigago going along with a lot of the scouting staff.


Seems like Sanlehi is really leaning in to the agent based deals.

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Oof at Francis Cagigago going along with a lot of the scouting staff.


Seems like Sanlehi is really leaning in to the agent based deals.

How exactly do the agent based deals work? I heard a simple explanation of "you have a relationship with an agent, tell him you need a striker and he gives you the options he has that are strikers."



Is that the simplified version? I can't remember which pundit or podcast I heard that explanation off of so it could be way off.

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**** me, I am not saying Ozil not taking a pay cut would save 55 jobs.

I’m saying that everything he does comes with the stench of him and his camp, etc being put above everything else.

He most likely pays a fortune for the continuous PR machine that continuously makes him appear to be the victim.

Over it. Pay him for the next year and then celebrate that it’s done.

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How exactly do the agent based deals work? I heard a simple explanation of "you have a relationship with an agent, tell him you need a striker and he gives you the options he has that are strikers."

Is that the simplified version? I can't remember which pundit or podcast I heard that explanation off of so it could be way off.

Yeah that'd be the simplified version, like the whole Willian deal seems to be coming off the back of the relationships forged with Kia Joorabchian. He is also David Luiz's agent, and Cedric Soares' agent(with Sports Invest UK), furthermore, recent financials have shown that Sports Invest UK helped facilitate the sale of Alex Iwobi to Everton. I think it's one of those things where it feels more and more as though Arsenal are doing agent-related deals, instead of other types of dealings when I think like many things in life, having a few prongs to your approach is better.

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**** me, I am not saying Ozil not taking a pay cut would save 55 jobs.

I’m saying that everything he does comes with the stench of him and his camp, etc being put above everything else.

He most likely pays a fortune for the continuous PR machine that continuously makes him appear to be the victim.

Over it. Pay him for the next year and then celebrate that it’s done.

Aside from the ending of my statement, I don't know that anyone is trying to imply that you, or anyone here, believes that Ozil's pay cut saves jobs. Also, while I don't disagree with the Ozil camp not always coming off great or looking good, the stench for me is far more Kroenke than anyone else.

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Aside from the ending of my statement, I don't know that anyone is trying to imply that you, or anyone here, believes that Ozil's pay cut saves jobs. Also, while I don't disagree with the Ozil camp not always coming off great or looking good, the stench for me is far more Kroenke than anyone else.

Kroenke's stench is unmatched, but Ozil's entire brand, because that's what he is, and wants to be (a brand, not a football player) is not far behind for me.

I also do not believe that the decision to not play Ozil comes entirely above Arteta—I just don't. I feel that it's far more likely he doesn't put much trust in a player who seemingly will do what you ask of him as long as it's exactly what he wants to do.