2020-2021 English Football Thread

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Terrible goalkeeping again. It ended 3-3 last season. It couldnt again could it?

[Keirik]

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Terrible goalkeeping again. It ended 3-3 last season. It couldnt again could it?

Yeah. Im not impressed Dwight Henderson at all right now. Just as I say that he makes a great save lol

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Super save on Mousset!

[Krebstar]

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Sheffied United have 1 point (9 points from 17th). This time last year, Norwich had 10, and Watford had 8. Year before that? Cardiff and Fulham had 8, Huddersfield had 7 (one less match played than Sheffield United).

I'd say there's no way they'll survive, but this time last year Bournemouth had 17 (but only 6 from 17th), so who knows.

[ImTellinTim]

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After they actually looked decent in a loss to Liverpool, I didn't think there was any way they still wouldn't have a win by now. This is historic ****tiness we are witnessing.

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Massive game on Sunday for them. If they lose at Brighton they may as well pack it in.

[Krebstar]

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After they actually looked decent in a loss to Liverpool, I didn't think there was any way they still wouldn't have a win by now. This is historic ****tiness we are witnessing.

I couldn't help but wonder how they compare to Derby County a third of the way through the season. It's looking...grim. Last three columns are per match.

I still assume they'll break out of it, grab some wins (Derby only had one) and not be anywhere near this record, but we'll see how long this spreadsheet makes sense to update.

[Krebstar]

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Several days ago I heard The Athletic's Tom Worville mention how overall, the league is pressing less than last year, which makes sense. I wanted to see how much, and also compare the differences across the league, because I'm me. So, here is the PPDA (passes per defensive action) from last season and this season at essentially the same point.

Red means more pressing, as there are fewer passes allowed before an action, green means less pressing as more passes are allowed. Note: Villa has only played 11 matches—everyone else is at 13 except Man City and Newcastle, who are at 12.

It's interesting to see how some teams are pressing far less. At this stage last year, Leicester City had the lowest PPDA. This year they're 11th—pressing much, much less. Also interesting is how Southampton and Villa are the only two who were pressing often last year and have maintained that level.

Has Southampton's unwillingness to press less helped them stand out in their performances, as teams are facing presses less? Maybe it's one aspect, as they're much better off than last year. They've gone from 9 points, 31 goals allowed to 24 points, 18 goals allowed.

Last really interesting thing I noticed, West Ham have the biggest difference. They're pressing much, much less. Has it helped? Well, last year after 13 matches they had 13 points, 23 goals allowed. This year? 21 points, 16 goals allowed. Seems to be working.

(table instead spoiler tag)

Spoiler

Here's Tom's piece in The Athletic going beyond PPDA that puts my personal curiosity project table to shame!

[KG]

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So the Premier League has voted to allow two more substitutions......to the bench bringing the total you can carry to 9.

SMH

The FA needs to just step in and say "It's 5 subs, we don't care what you all think"

There's also an approved "Concussion" sub change which could see you make two additional "head injury" related subs. No idea how that's going to work out. There has to be some kind of independent consult like the NFL does or teams are going to abuse it.

[Zac]

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9 vs 7 makes absolutely no sense.

[Krebstar]

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There has to be some kind of independent consult like the NFL does or teams are going to abuse it.

Yep—my first thought each time it gets discussed is 'Bloodgate' in rugby union.

TLDR; Harlequins used fake blood capsules (and actually cut a players lip to help conceal the usage) to simulate injuries which would allow them a blood substitution.

[Krebstar]

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9 vs 7 makes absolutely no sense.

Greater variety of players to not substitute while managers continue to complain their hands are tied on player safety in the 89th minute when they've used zero or one of their allotted three.

[Zac]

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They might approve 5 subs if there was a bylaw that said two of them had to be Englishmen. I bet that would get approved instantly.

[jb12780]

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Yep—my first thought each time it gets discussed is 'Bloodgate' in rugby union.

TLDR; Harlequins used fake blood capsules (and actually cut a players lip to help conceal the usage) to simulate injuries which would allow them a blood substitution.

Hehehehe I remember this match vividly.


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[Krebstar]

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Anticipating a hell of a match between Southampton and Man City today.