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  • Krebstar
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    • May 2005
    • 12904

    #346
    Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

    If Emery taking out Arsenal stops them from losing to United in the final I’m all for it.

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    • stlducks
      MVP
      • Mar 2010
      • 2864

      #347
      Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

      Originally posted by Krebstar
      If Emery taking out Arsenal stops them from losing to United in the final I’m all for it.


      Funny thing is the United fans I know are scared to play Arsenal. They think Arteta has Ole’s number.
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      • KG
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        • Sep 2005
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        #348
        Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

        Originally posted by Krebstar
        If Emery taking out Arsenal stops them from losing to United in the final I’m all for it.

        Coquelin got healthy just in time lol.

        Villarreal is sneaky good though. Pace with Chukiweeze and Moreno. Good passing midfielders in Parejo and Iborra. Pau Torres will be on a Top 6 English side next year, etc...

        Should be a good semi-final.


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        • Krebstar
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          • May 2005
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          #349
          Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

          Originally posted by stlducks
          Funny thing is the United fans I know are scared to play Arsenal. They think Arteta has Ole’s number.
          Oh I think we can beat them, I’d just hate hate hate to lose to them in the final.

          But we have to get there first, and I don’t think we will.

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          • KG
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            • Sep 2005
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            #350
            Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

            The new UCL “Swiss Model” format is just [emoji2363]

            36 teams staring in 2024-25
            1 giant division
            Each team play 10 of the other teams
            Top 8 advance to the knockout rounds

            That means 4 additional mid week games for a max total of 17 for the entire campaign.

            3 of 35 spots will be based on “historical UEFa coefficient”

            Not sure how this better than then Super League.

            Oh and they added a new Europa Conference League.


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            • southernmetalhead
              Inter Miami
              • Dec 2012
              • 3862

              #351
              Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

              PSG was going to win this before the Super League BS

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              • Krebstar
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                • May 2005
                • 12904

                #352
                Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                Originally posted by KG
                Not sure how this better than then Super League.
                The 9th place team in the Premier League doesn’t have an automatic spot.

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                • stlducks
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 2864

                  #353
                  Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                  Originally posted by KG
                  The new UCL “Swiss Model” format is just [emoji2363]

                  36 teams staring in 2024-25
                  1 giant division
                  Each team play 10 of the other teams
                  Top 8 advance to the knockout rounds

                  That means 4 additional mid week games for a max total of 17 for the entire campaign.

                  3 of 35 spots will be based on “historical UEFa coefficient”

                  Not sure how this better than then Super League.

                  Oh and they added a new Europa Conference League.


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                  This is how UEFA created the Super League. They had to try changing the CL just to get more revenue for themselves and that "forced" the greedy club owners to say "No I want the extra money" and that is why we are where we are today.
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                  • Brahvocado
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 7480

                    #354
                    Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                    Originally posted by stlducks
                    This is how UEFA created the Super League. They had to try changing the CL just to get more revenue for themselves and that "forced" the greedy club owners to say "No I want the extra money" and that is why we are where we are today.
                    Super league talks started back in the 90s so I don’t think you can pin this on UEFA.

                    The greed of UEFA certainly adds fuel to the fire, but this is almost entirely on the owners of the 12 clubs.

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                    • stlducks
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 2864

                      #355
                      Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                      Originally posted by Brahvocado
                      Super league talks started back in the 90s so I don’t think you can pin this on UEFA.



                      The greed of UEFA certainly adds fuel to the fire, but this is almost entirely on the owners of the 12 clubs.


                      I agree the blame is on the owners but UEFA should not be seen as the “good guys” here. IMO their new CL changes really pushed the 12 owners to make the change now.

                      Seems strange super league has been discussed for so long but is suddenly pushed through the same time as more CL changes are coming.
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                      • Suntan Superman
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                        • Feb 2009
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                        #356
                        Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                        Originally posted by stlducks
                        I agree the blame is on the owners but UEFA should not be seen as the “good guys” here. IMO their new CL changes really pushed the 12 owners to make the change now.

                        Seems strange super league has been discussed for so long but is suddenly pushed through the same time as more CL changes are coming.

                        It's more that it's being pushed through after surviving this pandemic, and the associated economic crisis. I, personally, firmly believe that this was planned for in the future to roll out in 2024, and potentially with less backlash, but the debt caused by the pandemic for some of the "big clubs" caused them to move timelines forward.
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                        • Brahvocado
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                          • Oct 2012
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                          #357
                          Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                          Also genuinely think the American owners involved didn’t anticipate THIS much backlash this fast. I’m pretty sure they thought a bunch of people would love this idea.

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                          • Krebstar
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                            • May 2005
                            • 12904

                            #358
                            Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                            Originally posted by Brahvocado
                            Also genuinely think the American owners involved didn’t anticipate THIS much backlash this fast. I’m pretty sure they thought a bunch of people would love this idea.
                            Well, they will, they're just not going to be as vocal.

                            Not to yell at too many clouds, but there are generations and also types of viewers who will eat this up. They watch now and then, but a whole match rarely keeps their attention. They bought FIFA a few years ago and only know and play with the top teams. They never understood why La Liga playing a league match in the US would be so wrong. On and on.

                            But I agree, I think the American owners vastly underestimated the history and social ties that football has within Europe (and elsewhere, but this is happening in Europe). If they for once treated the clubs they own as anything more than a business, they would've been more prepared for the type of reaction. They had no idea so many people care so much for another item in their portfolio.

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                            • Brahvocado
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 7480

                              #359
                              Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                              Originally posted by Krebstar
                              Well, they will, they're just not going to be as vocal.

                              Not to yell at too many clouds, but there are generations and also types of viewers who will eat this up. They watch now and then, but a whole match rarely keeps their attention. They bought FIFA a few years ago and only know and play with the top teams. They never understood why La Liga playing a league match in the US would be so wrong. On and on.

                              But I agree, I think the American owners vastly underestimated the history and social ties that football has within Europe (and elsewhere, but this is happening in Europe). If they for once treated the clubs they own as anything more than a business, they would've been more prepared for the type of reaction. They had no idea so many people care so much for another item in their portfolio.
                              Their main target is the Asian market, which is massive, and unfortunately the type of market that would love something like this.

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                              • Krebstar
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                                • May 2005
                                • 12904

                                #360
                                Re: 2020-21 UEFA Competitions Thread

                                Originally posted by Brahvocado
                                Their main target is the Asian market, which is massive, and unfortunately the type of market that would love something like this.
                                Yep, yesterday I was basically thinking that anywhere they go on a preseason tour to—Asia and the US.

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