Cnelly's Approach to Sliders- All Madden

[cnelly4]

I have tried numerous slider sets (and I have had some great games) but somethings just done seem realistic (running is too easy, can't stop the CPU passing attack, QB% too high, too many sacks). So I am trying something different, I am going to "ZERO" out all sliders and build up from there. If you would like to help in this project, please feel free to do so. You must do it in an offline CFM because I have heard that sliders work out differently in Play Now. Also, you need to use everything the exact same so that we are getting exact results.

My reason for doing this is that I feel it is easier to work up, rather than work from the middle. The first few games will probably be ugly, but I think it will be easier to make the tweaks adding to the sliders, rather being able to minus or add.

Here are my settings:
Game Options:
Even Teams- Off
Skill Level- All-Madden
Game Speed- Slow
Ball Hawk- Off
Strafe Asst.- Off
Heat Seeker Asst.- Off
Switch Asst.- Off
Quarter Length- 15 minutes
Run-off- 14 seconds
Injuries- 55
Fatigue- 65
Players Threshold- 15

Penalties:
Offside- 100
False Start- 100
Holding- 100
Facemask- 56 (-4)
D Pass Int.- 100
O Pass Int.- 100
KR/PR Int.- 100
Clipping- 100
Int. Ground- 100
Rough the Pass- 100
Rough the Kick- 100

Player Skill:
QB Acc- 2 (+1)
Pass Blck- 0
WR Catch- 40 (+20)
Rn Blck- 8 (+3)
Fmbls- 0
Reaction Tm- 0
Ints.- 10 (+10)
Pass Cov.- 5 (+5)
Tckling- 0

CPU Skill:
QB Acc- 5 (+1)
Pss Blck- 0
WR Ctch- 40 (+10)
Rn Blck- 8 (+3)
Fmbls- 10 (+5)
Reaction Tm- 0
Ints.- 10 (+10)
Pss Cov.- 5 (+5)
Tckling- 0

Special Teams:
FG Pwr- 50
FG Acc- 45
Pnt Pwr- 52
Pnt Acc-100
KO Pwr- 52

Auto Subs:
QB OUT- 0
QB IN- 3
RB OUT- 97 (-2)
RB IN- 100
WR OUT- 65
WR IN- 70
FB/TE OUT- 30
FB/TE IN- 35
OL OUT- 30
OL IN- 35

DT OUT- 90
DT IN- 94
DE OUT- 85
DE IN- 88
LB OUT- 60
LB IN- 65
CB OUT- 60
CB IN- 65
S OUT- 55
S IN- 60

I will more than likely be adjusting sliders after each game. I will also post boxscores after each game so that everyone is able to see the adjustments. I have chosen the Jaguars as my test CFM. They were the Lowest rated team OVR in the game, so I thought it would be a good place to start. If someone else would like to take a high-rated team (Broncons or Seahawks), then we can compare results to see what needs to be changed.

[cnelly4]

While there were some good feelings with this game, it never really was close. Foles accuracy was not very good and his receivers dropped about 10 balls. Foles did attempt 6 throws downfield which was nice to see, but his accuracy was off on those too. Each team had 5 sacks, all 10 of them came on the blitz. The CPU had 16 penalties, 14 of them were facemask penalties, so that was discouraging. They also had two false start penalties. I had 6 penalties, 4 of them were facemask with a holding and a false start.

I am going to make some tweaks before the next game. I will edit them in the first post.

Jacksonville Jaguars at Philadelphia Eagles
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Jacksonville Jaguars (1-0-0)	3	7	10	0	20
Philadelphia Eagles (0-1-0)	0	7	0	10	17

Team Stats Comparison
	JAC	PHI
Total Offense	257	236
Rushing Yards	135	52
Passing Yards	122	184
First Downs	21	8
Punt Return Yards	28	48
Kick Return Yards	34	24
Total Yards	319	308
Turnovers	0	2
3rd Down Converstion	7-21	3-18
4th Down Conversion	0-1	0-3
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/2	1/0
Penalties	6-75	16-204
Posession Time	42:34	17:26

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		JAC	PHI
9:55	(JAC) J. Scobee, 35 Yd FG	3	0
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		JAC	PHI
2:13	(JAC) C. Harbor, returned fumble 1 yds (J. Scobee kick)	10	0
1:30	(PHI) R. Cooper 12 Yd pass from N. Foles (C. Parkey kick)	10	7
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		JAC	PHI
6:57	(JAC) W. Ta'ufo'ou, 1 Yd run (J. Scobee kick)	17	7
0:28	(JAC) J. Scobee, 32 Yd FG	20	7
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		JAC	PHI
9:33	(PHI) C. Parkey, 51 Yd FG	20	10
4:17	(PHI) B. Smith 65 Yd pass from N. Foles (C. Parkey kick)	20	17

Jacksonville Jaguars PASSING C/A YDS TD INT B. Bortles 18/37 155 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Gerhart 39 109 2.7 0 D. Robinson 7 26 3.7 0 B. Bortles 2 -1 -0.5 0 W. Ta'ufo'ou 1 1 1.0 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD A. Hurns 6 62 10.3 0 C. Shorts 4 52 13.0 0 J. Blackmon 3 11 3.6 0 T. Gerhart 2 6 3.0 0 M. Lewis 2 25 12.5 0 D. Robinson 1 -1 -1.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Everyone 2 3 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Everyone 5 1 0

Philadelphia Eagles PASSING C/A YDS TD INT N. Foles 12/44 229 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD L. McCoy 13 41 3.1 0 D. Sproles 2 11 5.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD L. McCoy 4 44 11.0 0 J. Maclin 2 18 9.0 0 R. Cooper 2 20 10.0 1 D. Sproles 1 13 13.0 0 B. Smith 1 65 65.0 1 J. Matthews 1 14 14.0 0 B. Celek 1 55 55.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Everyone 3 3 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Everyone 5 0 0

[booker21]

by experience and by been there.

Qb should start at 4 or 5
WR catching at 35 or 40
Face mask at 55

I should start there as a base if i were you instead of EVERTYTHING at 0. tweak those 3 and try again a couple of games.

[cnelly4]

Quote: Originally Posted by booker21

by experience and by been there. Qb should start at 4 or 5 WR catching at 35 or 40 Face mask at 55 I should start there as a base if i were you instead of EVERTYTHING at 0. tweak those 3 and try again a couple of games.

Starting my second game now, and I have changed these three things and a few others. Changes are in my original post.

[booker21]

please post your Box score when you end up playing with the new changes. This is a really interested thread.

I remember when i tried this i saw that to the contrary belief, sliders at 0 was a very playable game. Of course there were some sliders that need to be rise but still other work really good.

This make me believe how an impact these sliders are. I mean, playing at 0 you still get decent games. make me think

[cnelly4]

Sorry. Family weekend!!! I will attempt to get the boxscore up after work tomorrow. Much higher scoring game. A little too high, but once again there were a lot of facemask penalties, but I also did see some offsides, false starts, and holding calls on both the CPU and Myself. The penalties kept a lot of drives alive. I think once I get the penalties figured out, then the sliders will play extremely well.

[cnelly4]

The score was extremely high in this game. All of the penalties kept drives alive once again. The bright side is that I saw some variety. I had 3 offside penalties and two of them were my CPU controlled guys jumping. The CPU had one offsides, one false start, one holding, and one rough the passer.

Griffin was hard to stop, but he fumbled a lot. So I will have to raise that up. I also had nine sacks which was discouraging. On a positive note, I am seeing linebackers get a lot of tackles. But I do feel that there are way too many tackles for a loss, so I will raise run block a tad more for the next game.

As I said before, once I get the penalties figured out I think these will play pretty damn good.

I have made my adjustments that I will use for the next game in the first post.

Jacksonville Jaguars at Washington Redskins
Sep 14, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Jacksonville Jaguars (2-0-0)	0	21	14	14	49
Washington Redskins (0-2-0)	0	24	7	7	38

Team Stats Comparison
	JAC	WAS
Total Offense	278	308
Rushing Yards	107	156
Passing Yards	171	152
First Downs	28	25
Punt Return Yards
Kick Return Yards
Total Yards	391	501
Turnovers	1	7
3rd Down Converstion	10	4
4th Down Conversion	0	1
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	7/0	4/1
Penalties	20-228	18-163
Posession Time	37:52	22:08

Jacksonville Jaguars PASSING C/A YDS TD INT B. Bortles 20/37 205 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Gerhart 40 91 2.3 3 D. Robinson 2 5 2.5 1 W. Ta'ufo'ou 3 5 1.7 0 B. Bortles 2 1 0.5 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD C. Shorts 6 61 10.2 0 M. Lewis 5 50 10.0 0 A. Hurns 2 15 7.5 1 T. Gerhart 2 35 17.5 0 J. Blackmon 2 21 10.5 0 A. Robinson 2 16 8.0 0 W. Ta'ufo'ou 1 7 7.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Everyone 1 3 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Everyone 9 1

Washington Redskins PASSING C/A YDS TD INT R. Griffin 22/31 189 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD R. Griffin 11 98 8.9 1 A. Morris 15 47 3.1 0 R. Helu 3 11 3.7 1 D. Young 1 5 5.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD N. Paul 9 63 7.0 1 R. Helu 3 22 7.3 0 L. Hankerson 3 48 16.0 0 P. Garcon 3 39 13.0 1 A. Roberts 2 15 7.5 0 D. Young 1 1 1.0 0 A. Morris 1 1 1.0 0 D. Jackson 1 11 11.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Everyone 0 3 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Everyone 3 1 1

[cnelly4]

Much closer game. The Colts offense was not as powerful as it should be though. Luck threw a lot of bad passes, WR dropped 12 passes, and the run game was non-existent. I will make those adjustments before my next game. For me, Bortles was erratic, especially when pressured. You definitely have to get his feet set before you throw (which is a good thing).

Colts scored 2 TD's on fumble recoveries for their only TD's. It was windy and rainy and each team had three turnovers. The facemask penalty was still prevalent, even at 60. So I will bump that down again. There were other penalties though. The CPU had five false start penalties.

Indianapolis Colts at Jacksonville Jaguars
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Indianapolis Colts (0-3-0)	0	10	3	9	22
Jacksonville Jaguars (3-0-0)	7	7	3	8	25

Team Stats Comparison
	IND	JAC
Total Offense	225	301
Rushing Yards	59	104
Passing Yards	166	197
First Downs	17	19
Punt Return Yards
Kick Return Yards
Total Yards	342	377
Turnovers	3	3
3rd Down Converstion	4-18	3-17
4th Down Conversion	0-1	1-1
2-Point Conversion	0-1	1-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	0/3	2/1
Penalties	12-124	6-77
Posession Time	29:05	30:55

Indianapolis Colts PASSING C/A YDS TD INT B. Bortles 21/45 225 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Gerhart 26 88 3.3 1 B. Bortles 2 2 1.0 0 D. Robinson 1 5 5.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Blackmon 8 110 13.7 1 T. Gerhart 6 63 10.5 1 M. Lewis 5 45 9.0 0 A. Robinson 1 3 3.0 0 A. Hurns 1 4 4.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Everyone 6 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Everyone 4 0

Jacksonville Jaguars PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. Luck 20/47 199 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD A. Bradshaw 21 60 2.8 0 T. Richardson 3 0 0.0 0 A. Luck 2 5 2.5 0 S. Havili 1 0 0.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD A. Bradshaw 7 54 7.7 0 D. Allen 5 59 11.8 0 T. Hilton 3 32 10.6 0 R. Wayne 3 40 13.3 0 N. Hicks 1 2 2.0 0 G. Whalen 1 12 12.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Everyone 2 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Everyone 3 1 2