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Old 05-17-2016, 12:54 PM   #329
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I definitely think something was done with movement animations, but in the two clips shown at the end, the running looked pretty similar to Madden 16.

Honestly I hope they are building something on the side to release one of these years, but the animations and the quality of them is the biggest thing holding this game back. One reason why the game doesn't feel fresh to alot of people. Alot of the same animations from last gen still trigger often.

I did love the new handoff/playaction animations added last year. Best animations in the game honestly.
I'm all for new animations but until they actually address locomotion with real inertia/momentum and weight the game will never feel right. Too many times I see Eddie Lacy with 12 yards of steam, get contacted by a corner and immediately stop any forward momentum he has, no driving forward just hitting a brick wall.

True Step needs to be implemented to all 22 guys on the field, it's great that the ball carrier has to decelerate and accelerate and can't zig zag but when the other 21 players don't adhere to the same rules things get wonky.

My biggest peeve is the warping/shifting on catch animations, I'd rather the catch animation play out and the wr not even get a hand on the ball than having him warp to be able to make a play.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:04 PM   #330
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I'm all for new animations but until they actually address locomotion with real inertia/momentum and weight the game will never feel right. Too many times I see Eddie Lacy with 12 yards of steam, get contacted by a corner and immediately stop any forward momentum he has, no driving forward just hitting a brick wall.
Supposedly "attributes" go into the animations available for the ball carrier animations; I took that to mean weight (and maybe height) was added into the calculations for animation triggers. It's not 22 players, but it's a step if this is true.
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I'm all for new animations but until they actually address locomotion with real inertia/momentum and weight the game will never feel right. Too many times I see Eddie Lacy with 12 yards of steam, get contacted by a corner and immediately stop any forward momentum he has, no driving forward just hitting a brick wall.

True Step needs to be implemented to all 22 guys on the field, it's great that the ball carrier has to decelerate and accelerate and can't zig zag but when the other 21 players don't adhere to the same rules things get wonky.

My biggest peeve is the warping/shifting on catch animations, I'd rather the catch animation play out and the wr not even get a hand on the ball than having him warp to be able to make a play.
Yeah I should've been more specific with my post, because all of the things you mentioned I have an issue with. The game just animates and interacts pretty poorly at this time, especially for an Xbox One/PS4 game.

True step on defense is desperately needed. So tired of the poor defensive movement/footwork. The speed burst catches can be annoying as well.

Tiburon has to figure out a way to rid the game of these issues before I can take their "sim" claims serious....
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:50 PM   #332
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Latest from Rex but I thought the swat was still in


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I definitely think something was done with movement animations, but in the two clips shown at the end, the running looked pretty similar to Madden 16.

Honestly I hope they are building something on the side to release one of these years, but the animations and the quality of them is the biggest thing holding this game back. One reason why the game doesn't feel fresh to alot of people. Alot of the same animations from last gen still trigger often.

I did love the new handoff/playaction animations added last year. Best animations in the game honestly.


Yeah, I thought the QB animations were all much better than all previous years, actually. The QB scramble or 'scramble while looking to throw' I thought was implemented nicely and the animations played out nicely (most of the time) meaning when u tapped the RT, and threw the ball, it, legit, looked like a throw on the run. The other thing I was actually totally impressed with last year and did NOT expect madden to EVER do correctly was HB screens. Not the screen, itself (which, for me works sometimes and sometimes not), but the QB animations for screens is on point, imo. The quicker moving back peddling feet that allow u to draw in defenders while still being able to throw. This makes screens look/feel much more realistic. Now, of course, it's a shame when your OL completely F's up the whole thing!!!! Lol. But, the QB animations during screens was a pleasant surprise for me.
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I thought it was R1 to swat the ball
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I could have sworn it was in 16. I even used square instead of triangle most of the time and I got a lot of defensive back punching or slapping the ball out of WRs hands. Maybe Rex misunderstood the question?
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It's still in(Here is Xbox One)


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