Statistical Analysis: Correlation between Combine Scores and Madden 17 Rookie Ratings

[underdog13]

Huh interesting stuff. According to the graph's I would have

71 Speed
55 Strength
72 Jumping
69 Agility
84 Acceleration

Quality JV talent right there

[zacification1]

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

Huh interesting stuff. According to the graph's I would have 71 Speed 55 Strength 72 Jumping 69 Agility 84 Acceleration Quality JV talent right there

I know I'd be quite worse, only stat I can name off hand is 65 strength, haha. Thanks for checking it out.

[87Birdman]

I don't think you can have a straight 1 to 1 ratio with 40 times and speed rating. Because I would ask this question.

So player A runs a 4.35 40 and so does player B. Now player B has a faster 10 yard split than player A. But yet both finished with the same time. This tells me player A had a higher top speed bit takes longer to get their while player B is slower but has a better acceleration.

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[CM Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by 87Birdman

I don't think you can have a straight 1 to 1 ratio with 40 times and speed rating. Because I would ask this question. So player A runs a 4.35 40 and so does player B. Now player B has a faster 10 yard split than player A. But yet both finished with the same time. This tells me player A had a higher top speed bit takes longer to get their while player B is slower but has a better acceleration. Sent from my SM-G900R4 using Tapatalk

In this case you're looking at a situation where Player B indeed has a better initial burst (better ACC).

However, the reason for Player A's ability to catch up is unclear with this info. Player B could either have lower maximum velocity than Player A (lower SPD) or a lower ability to maintain his maximum velocity (lower STA, though Madden players don't get tired as quickly as real players do even with STA set at zero).

To determine this with certainty you'd need the 10, 20, and 40 split times. With these in hand you can do a bit of calculus on them and figure out the moment in time with maximum velocity for each player, along with the rates of change in velocity over time.

[zacification1]

Quote: Originally Posted by 87Birdman

I don't think you can have a straight 1 to 1 ratio with 40 times and speed rating. Because I would ask this question. So player A runs a 4.35 40 and so does player B. Now player B has a faster 10 yard split than player A. But yet both finished with the same time. This tells me player A had a higher top speed bit takes longer to get their while player B is slower but has a better acceleration. Sent from my SM-G900R4 using Tapatalk

In this instance, player A would have lower Acceleration than player B. They both have the same "top speed", but player B reaches it quicker than player A does. It would not factor into speed itself, besides time taken to reach the top speed.

[briz1046]

Quote: Originally Posted by zacification1

In this instance, player A would have lower Acceleration than player B. They both have the same "top speed", but player B reaches it quicker than player A does. It would not factor into speed itself, besides time taken to reach the top speed.

This is incorrect sorry
If top speeds are equal , higher ACC would mean faster time , ignoring stamina
Thus if 40 times are equal but ACCs differ so MUST top speed again ignoring stamina

[Sajiky]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

"Game speed" isn't a real thing. A player doesn't have slower straight-line speed by some arbitrary amount or cut more sluggishly solely because he puts on a set of pads and a helmet.

Actually track speed can be quite different. On the field with pads helmet etc. does change things. Ball carriers in particular keeping a football tucked to prevent fumbles changes running technique a lot. I'd even go so far as to say some people get an extra burst simply due to the act of the chase (in particular being chased). It's on grass or astroturf instead of a track, all these things make minute subtle differences, but when you consider the fastest players are fairly close to each other in speed small differences matter.

Even sprinters on tracks have variances in their times based on small differences in conditions. So with all the added variables during a game, football speed is definitely different from track speed.

[Browns_Fan_30]

Awesome work Zacification! I had messed around with something like this before but your results are much more complete. I will for sure use this with drafts classes in my CFM. One question i have is if nonlinear regression lines give better correlation coefficients. It seems like your jumping data is more logarithmic/exponential. Thanks again! (I'm bookmarking this page)