Bill's Realism Sliders (only Coach Mode for now)

[lewis584]

Going to be patching tonight so looking forward to an update at some point soon Bill, I'll be testing anything you care to throw at us.

[Manning2Harrison]

I have played my first post-patch game and my initial impression is that much less tweaking will be needed than we had feared.

I'm not a subscriber to the theory that the settings must be the same for the HUM/CPU. I've seen too much stat difference to be married to that idea, and I have a suspicion that the game has a built-in bias toward the human player. I found it necessary to decrease the effectiveness of my QB, while I also needed to boost the settings for the CPU QB (pre-patch #3), to lower and raise the completion percentages. We're talking a disparity of >70% for HUM and <50% for the CPU with QBA 25/25.

Where my pre-patch settings differed from Bill's:

QBA: 21/30
WRC: HUM 45
PDREAC: HUM 80

Fatigue: 62

15 min qtr., 25 sec. runoff

I use a sub ratio of 89/92 for the RB's.

And I use these coaching scheme settings for my CPU opponent:

Run/Pass: 60 (Pass heavy), 50 (Balanced) or 40 (Run heavy)
Off. Aggr.: 0

4-3 Defense: Run/Pass 60, Aggr. 20

3-4 Defense: Ru/Pass 40, Aggr. 40

In evaluating the total numbers from this game, keep in mind that it went 12 1/2 minutes into OT.

Also note that at halftime I increased CPU QBA to 35. In the first half, with CPU QBA at 30, McCown went 5-21. In the second half plus OT, with CPU QBA at 35, he went 19-28.

NFL Scoreboard - WASHINGTON (8-7) at JACKSONVILLE (11-4)

December 26, 2010 1 2 3 4 OT F WASHINGTON 0 10 0 7 0 17 JACKSONVILLE 3 0 0 14 3 20 Top Performers WASHINGTON - Stats Donovan McNabb - 21-37, 217 yds, 2 TD Chris Cooley - 9 rec, 100 yds JACKSONVILLE - Stats Luke McCown - 24-49, 338 yds, 2 TD Kassim Osgood - 6 rec., 95 yds, TD	Team Stats Comparison WAS JAX First Downs 16 20 3rd Down Efficiency 5-19 5-18 4th Down Efficiency 0-0 1-1 Total Yards 323 430 Passing Yards 210 323 Rushing Yards 113 107 Penalties-Penalty Yards 5-45 5-36 Turnovers 0 0 Time of Possession 45:42 33:00
Scoring Summary First Quarter WAS JAX JAX 8:39 Josh Scobee 53 FG 0 3 Second Quarter WAS JAX WAS 2:40 Santana Moss 6 pass from Donovan McNabb (G. Gano kick) 7 3 WAS 0:13 Graham Gano 30 FG 10 3 Fourth Quarter WAS JAX WAS 13:21 Fred Davis 4 pass from Donovan McNabb (G. Gano kick) 17 3 JAX 1:56 Mike Thomas 1 pass from Luke McCown (J. Scobee kick) 17 10 JAX 0:43 Kassim Osgood 6 pass from Luke McCown (J. Scobee kick) 17 17 Overtime WAS JAX JAX 2:32 Josh Scobee 28 FG 17 20
WASHINGTON Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Donovan McNabb 21-37 217 2 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD Larry Johnson 14 47 3.3 0 Willie Parker 7 29 4.1 0 Clinton Portis 9 27 3.0 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD Chris Cooley 9 100 11.1 0 Santana Moss 5 60 12.0 1 Anthony Armstrong 3 45 15.0 0 Joey Galloway 2 6 3.0 0 Fred Davis 1 4 4.0 1 Defense TKL SACK INT TD DeAngelo Hall 8 0 0 0 London Fletcher 7 0 0 0 Albert Haynesworth 4 2 0 0 Kareem Moore 4 0 0 0 Phillip Buchanon 3 0 0 Anthony Bryant 3 0 0 LaRon Landry 3 0 0 Rocky McIntosh 3 0 0 Chris Wilson 3 0 0 JACKSONVILLE Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Luke McCown 24-49 338 2 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD Maurice Jones-Drew 13 53 4.0 0 Rashad Jennings 11 51 4.6 0 Montel Owens 1 3 3.0 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD Kassim Osgood 6 95 15.8 1 Jarrett Dillard 5 97 19.4 0 Marcedes Lewis 3 66 22.0 0 Mike Thomas 3 25 8.3 1 Rashad Jennings 3 21 7.0 0 Defense TKL SACK INT TD Kirk Morrison 12 0 0 0 Tyson Alualu 6 0 0 0 Justin Durant 5 0 0 0 Derrick Harvey 5 0 0 0 Russell Allen 4 1 0 0 Don Carey 4 0 0 0 Sean Considine 4 0 0 0 Terrance Knighton 4 0 0 0 Anthony Smith 4 0 0 0

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[lewis584]

Good looking game there, nice slow score, no turnovers (too many on Madden usually).

Especially nice since we've had a patch and the sliders haven't been tweaked TOO much.

Only slight worry is the 3rd down version, feels pretty low for both teams.

[Manning2Harrison]

Quote: Originally Posted by lewis584

Good looking game there, nice slow score, no turnovers (too many on Madden usually). Especially nice since we've had a patch and the sliders haven't been tweaked TOO much. Only slight worry is the 3rd down version, feels pretty low for both teams.

That one broke a string of games that included a defensive TD, and it was the first time this season that every touchdown was scored from inside the 10. High-scoring games have been rare in my season. Going back to Madden 10, 3rd down conversions have been weak in my games. This season, a lot of that is because Washington doesn't have a running game. If I run on 1st and 2nd down, I'm usually looking at 3rd and 5 or worse.

[tomriddle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Manning2Harrison

That one broke a string of games that included a defensive TD, and it was the first time this season that every touchdown was scored from inside the 10. High-scoring games have been rare in my season. Going back to Madden 10, 3rd down conversions have been weak in my games. This season, a lot of that is because Washington doesn't have a running game. If I run on 1st and 2nd down, I'm usually looking at 3rd and 5 or worse.

I had a chise with the redskins and McNabb.. as good as he is ratings-wise I was dead last in the league in 3rd down conversion %.. I find that Donavan oft goes for the homeruns and stuff rather than take what the defense gave him

part of the low 3rd down % is McNabb he tries too hard to make plays imo

[skte1ement]

Quote: Originally Posted by tomriddle

I had a chise with the redskins and McNabb.. as good as he is ratings-wise I was dead last in the league in 3rd down conversion %.. I find that Donavan oft goes for the homeruns and stuff rather than take what the defense gave him part of the low 3rd down % is McNabb he tries too hard to make plays imo

You might know this all ready but, one thing that helps is calling plays with the main receiver (the one highlighted in red) running a route in the distance that you need for a first down. Also audibling the RB to block helps prevent a short dump off. It seems like after the main receiver the RB dump is always the second choice. When he blocks it will force you to throw to a receiver down the field. Works pretty well for me.

[Manning2Harrison]

I also hot route receivers away from deep routes to reduce home run attempts.

[dolfanfrank]

I'm curious with these sliders the game feels kinda loose,however
I get the best pass rush versus some other sliders that have
much highere pass rush settings

Might that be do to the high reaction time?