Bill's Realism Sliders (only Coach Mode for now)

[skte1ement]

Quote: Originally Posted by billharris44

No. I wish I had time to tackle that, but it's an entirely separate project, and it would be huge. It's so easy to totally screw that up with one bad setting at one position.

I've been using Mike32Ownz subin/out sliders and they are working pretty well.

[tomriddle]

preseason game 3

NFL Scoreboard - Cincinnati Bengals (2-0) at Washington Redskins (1-1)

, 1 2 3 4 F Cincinnati Bengals 7 0 3 0 10 Washington Redskins 0 13 3 3 19 Top Performers Cincinnati Bengals - Stats Washington Redskins - Stats	Team Stats Comparison CIN WAS First Downs 12 13 3rd Down Efficiency 5-18 27% 5-18 27% 4th Down Efficiency 1-3 0-0 Total Yards 337 259 Passing Yards 145 65 Rushing Yards 129 115 Penalties-Penalty Yards 8-55 3-30 Turnovers 2 1 Time of Possession 22:32 25:28
Scoring Summary First Quarter CIN WAS CIN 6:52 C. Benson, 2yd run 7 0 Second Quarter CIN WAS WAS 8:25 G. Gano 30yd fg 7 3 WAS 7:09 L. Fletcher returned fumble 37 yds 7 10 WAS 1:42 G. Gano 44yd fg 7 13 Third Quarter CIN WAS CIN 9:33 M. Koop 30yd fg 10 13 WAS 2:41 G. Gano 44yd fg 10 16 Fourth Quarter CIN WAS WAS 1:04 G. Gano 40yd fg 10 19
Cincinnati Bengals Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT C. Palmer 5-19 53 0 1 A. Parker 5-21 92 0 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD C. Benson 16 73 4.5 1 B. Scott 11 54 4.9 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD J. Shipley 3 81 27 0 C. Ochocinco 2 7 3.5 0 B. Scott 2 24 12 0 Washington Redskins Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT D. McNabb 7-22 52 0 0 S. Wallace 4-10 29 0 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD C. Portis 17 82 4.8 0 C. Copeland 13 44 3.3 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD M. Wallace 2 15 7.5 0 C. Portis 2 2 1 0 C. Copeland 2 17 8.5 0

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[tomriddle]

preseason game 4

NFL Scoreboard - Washington Redskins (2-1) at New Orleans Saints (2-1)

, 1 2 3 4 F Washington Redskins 0 3 10 6 19 New Orleans Saints 3 0 0 6 9 Top Performers Washington Redskins - Stats New Orleans Saints - Stats	Team Stats Comparison WAS NO First Downs 15 19 3rd Down Efficiency 7-15 7-16 4th Down Efficiency 0-0 1-1 Total Yards 479 443 Passing Yards 302 274 Rushing Yards 132 68 Penalties-Penalty Yards 1-10 2-20 Turnovers 0 1 Time of Possession 29:44 18:16
Scoring Summary First Quarter WAS NO NO 2:20 N. Folk 42yd fg 0 3 Second Quarter WAS NO WAS 0:29 G. Gano 51yd fg 3 3 Third Quarter WAS NO WAS 11:10 D. Thomas 78yd pass 10 3 WAS 3:56 G. Gano 31yd fg 13 3 Fourth Quarter WAS NO WAS 9:00 G. Gano 28yd fg 16 3 WAS 3:39 G. Gano 24yd fg 19 3 NO 2:07 C. Butler 6yd pass (2pt conv failed) 19 9
Washington Redskins Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT D. McNabb 8-14 71 0 0 S. Wallace 6-12 246 1 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD C. Copeland 17 56 3.2 0 C. Portis 15 80 5.3 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD C. Copeland 4 27 6.7 0 F. Davis 3 61 20.3 0 New Orleans Saints Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT D. Brees 15-26 160 0 0 S. Canfield 8-22 127 1 1 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD C. Williams 10 36 3.6 0 P. Thomas 8 32 4 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD M. Colston 6 76 12.6 0 C. Butler 4 79 19.7 1

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[WilliamWalker]

Hi, Bill. I'm experimenting with your sliders now before launching my Skins franchise. I'm not twitchy enough to take on the CPU so am using Coach Mode. I'm using the Xbox 360 and it isn't connected to the Internet, so I can't post stats, but I can give you some general impressions based on a half-dozen games I've played.

In general, I think the sliders are great. All of the games had reasonable scores, and the stats were realistic with a couple of exceptions. It seems to me, and the stats posted by others seem to confirm this, that the rushing average is a little high. In my games, Portis consistently got more than 5 yards per carry each game, and this against the Ravens (I have played all my games against the same team to control for that). In addition, I've been experiencing an inordinate number of turnovers (both Skins and Ravens). I've noticed that your fumble and interception settings are significantly lower than those set by most people in their sliders, and am wondering if they should be tweaked upward.

Interestingly, I haven't noticed that setting the minimum speed threshold at 100 has prevented the occasional big play, as I had feared. I trust your methodology on that one.

What drives me nuts, and I don't know whether this is correctable or not, are what I perceive to be totally unrealistic kick and punt returns. In six games, neither team has gotten past the 23 on a kickoff return or gained more than 7 yards on a punt return. (I haven't had better results with anybody else's sliders.) As far as penalties, even with settings at 100 I haven't seen very many, or at least as many as seem to occur in real games. I do think the injuries setting is a tad high, though you yourself acknowledge that your setting might not appeal to everybody.

All for now. Thanks a lot for your hard work. Adjusting the sliders definitely improves the experience, and if it wasn't for people like you I would have sold my game already.

[Jh28]

I think Bill addressed it in the first post, the kick and punt returns are an engine issue. Unless EA does a patch the sliders are not going to fix it.

[tomriddle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jh28

I think Bill addressed it in the first post, the kick and punt returns are an engine issue. Unless EA does a patch the sliders are not going to fix it.

yeah I had one PR return for a TD and i was so excited i was going to record it and post it but it got called back due to holding, haha

reg season week 2

NFL Scoreboard - Dallas Cowboys (1-0) at Washington Redskins (1-0)

September 25, 2011 1 2 3 4 F Dallas Cowboys 14 3 3 12 32 Washington Redskins 7 7 10 7 31 Top Performers Dallas Cowboys - Stats Washington Redskins - Stats	Team Stats Comparison DAL WAS First Downs 21 12 3rd Down Efficiency 8-17 47% 2-9 22% 4th Down Efficiency 0-0 0-0 Total Yards 634 459 Passing Yards 410 253 Rushing Yards 180 119 Penalties-Penalty Yards 9-75 2-15 Turnovers 1 1 Time of Possession 28:47 19:13
Scoring Summary First Quarter DAL WAS DAL 6:57 M.Barber 30yd run 7 0 WAS 2:57 C.Copeland 1yd run 7 7 DAL 0:40 A.Owusu-Ansah returned fumble 1yd 14 7 Second Quarter DAL WAS DAL 3:16 D.Buehler 22yd fg 17 7 WAS 1:18 D.Hall returned interception 38 yds 17 14 Third Quarter DAL WAS DAL 7:09 D. Buehler 29yd fg 20 14 WAS 4:22 G.Gano 50yd fg 20 17 WAS 2:14 S.Gilmore 70yd pass 20 24 Fourth Quarter DAL WAS DAL 10:05 D.Buehler 43yd fg 23 24 DAL 5:29 M.Austin 53yd pass (2pt conv failed) 29 24 WAS 3:30 S.Gilmore 48yd pass 29 31 DAL 0:00 D.Buehler 27yd fg 32 31
Dallas Cowboys Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT D.McNabb 14-22 267 2 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD C.Copeland 21 114 5.4 1 C. Portis 1 5 5 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD C.Cooley 4 63 15.7 0 S.Moss 3 34 11.3 0 S.Gilmore 2 118 59 2 M.Wallace 2 23 11.5 0 Washington Redskins Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT T.Romo 28-45 417 1 1 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD M.Barber 21 137 6.5 1 F.Jones 5 10 2 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD R.Williams 10 78 7.8 0 D.Bryant 5 136 27.2 0 J.Witten 4 39 9.7 0 M.Austin 3 91 30.3 1

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[billharris44]

Quote: Originally Posted by WilliamWalker

Hi, Bill. I'm experimenting with your sliders now before launching my Skins franchise. I'm not twitchy enough to take on the CPU so am using Coach Mode. I'm using the Xbox 360 and it isn't connected to the Internet, so I can't post stats, but I can give you some general impressions based on a half-dozen games I've played. In general, I think the sliders are great. All of the games had reasonable scores, and the stats were realistic with a couple of exceptions. It seems to me, and the stats posted by others seem to confirm this, that the rushing average is a little high. In my games, Portis consistently got more than 5 yards per carry each game, and this against the Ravens (I have played all my games against the same team to control for that). In addition, I've been experiencing an inordinate number of turnovers (both Skins and Ravens). I've noticed that your fumble and interception settings are significantly lower than those set by most people in their sliders, and am wondering if they should be tweaked upward. Interestingly, I haven't noticed that setting the minimum speed threshold at 100 has prevented the occasional big play, as I had feared. I trust your methodology on that one. What drives me nuts, and I don't know whether this is correctable or not, are what I perceive to be totally unrealistic kick and punt returns. In six games, neither team has gotten past the 23 on a kickoff return or gained more than 7 yards on a punt return. (I haven't had better results with anybody else's sliders.) As far as penalties, even with settings at 100 I haven't seen very many, or at least as many as seem to occur in real games. I do think the injuries setting is a tad high, though you yourself acknowledge that your setting might not appeal to everybody. All for now. Thanks a lot for your hard work. Adjusting the sliders definitely improves the experience, and if it wasn't for people like you I would have sold my game already.

Kick returns are an engine problem--no one holds their blocks. I think that will get fixed in a patch.

I still think QB completion % is too low, and I'm working on some adjustments for that. Rushing may also be tweaked downward. I can't answer about turnovers yet.

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reg season game 3

NFL Scoreboard - Washington Redskins (1-1) at New York Giants (1-1)

, 1 2 3 4 F Washington Redskins 3 3 8 7 21 New York Giants 14 3 0 21 38 Top Performers Washington Redskins - Stats New York Giants - Stats	Team Stats Comparison WAS NYG First Downs 16 15 3rd Down Efficiency 6-16 37% 4-9 44% 4th Down Efficiency 1-2 0-0 Total Yards 457 596 Passing Yards 246 213 Rushing Yards 75 328 Penalties-Penalty Yards 3-30 3-25 Turnovers 0 1 Time of Possession 28:04 19:56
Scoring Summary First Quarter WAS NYG WAS 6:10 G. Gano 49yd fg 3 0 NYG 2:39 B.Jacobs 62yd run 3 7 NYG 0:00 K.Boss 45yd pass 3 14 Second Quarter WAS NYG NYG 7:33 L. Tynes 29yd fg 3 17 WAS 3:30 G. Gano 44yd fg 6 17 Third Quarter WAS NYG WAS 3:05 F.Davis 10yd pass (2pt conv succesful) 14 17 Fourth Quarter WAS NYG NYG 10:50 A.Brown 4yd run 14 24 NYG 7:31 A.Bradshaw 24yd run 14 31 WAS 4:03 M.Wallace 34yd pass 21 31 NYG 2:30 A.Bradshaw 56yd run 21 38
Washington Redskins Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT D.McNabb 25-45 274 2 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD C.Copeland 17 64 3.7 0 C.Portis 4 11 2.7 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD C.Cooley 7 65 9.2 0 M.Wallace 4 50 12.5 1 S.Moss 4 61 15.2 0 New York Giants Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT E.Manning 14-24 213 1 0 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD B.Jacobs 23 182 7.9 1 A.Bradshaw 7 137 19.5 2 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD L.Williams 4 56 14 0 K.Boss 3 60 20 1 S.Smith 2 40 20 0

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