Yeah and it is getting there because of help from guys like adembroski and LBrulz at the community day because they do bring some extra football knowledge and can spot things that don't look right. You don't have to be a professional programmer to help with these games. I feel like several people from this board have contributed in small ways to hopefully make this the best Madden yet. I wouldn't mind having a uniform freak, a franchise junky, physics/locomotion guru, defensive mastermind, and offensive genius from these boards to go look at the game and play it early. Having an extra brain or two to look over things never hurts.