3-4....NOBODY gets sacks, NEEDS FIXED!!!!

[Luca Brasi]

Using the Steelers my problems with getting sacks isn't with my DL,it's with Harrison and Woodley. I just CANNOT get any sacks with these guys.

[NFLfan80]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteelCityChamp

I run with the Steelers and they are a 3-4 Defense. I get sacks with Harrison, Farrior and Woodley all the time. I get a few with Hampton and Keisel but not like I do with my LBs. Yeah, Aaron Smith gets his share as DE but he does in real life too. Maybe you should tweak your settings. I have no problem with the 3-4. I run it like they run it and get pretty genuine results. 2008 regular season - Harrison had 16, Woodley had 12 and in third.......Aaron Smith (DE) with 6. My leading sack leaders in my franchise is Harrison and Woodley. Farrior only had 4 last year.

What are your settings to get sacks? I'm a Steeler fan/user and have a hard time. QB always gets rid of the ball to quick or either I don't get pressure.

[brendanrfoley]

I play as the Patriots and run the 3-4 about 60% of plays. I get plenty of sacks; 6 during my last game against the Raiders. I've seen corners get sacks, linebackers and linemen.

[imskykid]

Quote: Originally Posted by brendanrfoley

I play as the Patriots and run the 3-4 about 60% of plays. I get plenty of sacks; 6 during my last game against the Raiders. I've seen corners get sacks, linebackers and linemen.

If you guys go back and read some of the longer posts in this thread you will see that the issue is more than gameplay. Sure, over time with practice and using sliders someone can master playing with the 3-4 and using it effectively. The issue is with simmed stats, CPU draft/free agency logic, AND gameplay AI.

[MattieShoes]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blokelahoma

I really don't think it matters what kind of D you run, if Dwight Freeney is available and willing to sign with your team, you should get him.

I'm sure that's what the Raiders were thinking when they signed Warren Sapp. But Sapp wasn't able to adjust to the new position very well -- Before he could explode off the snap and head straight for the QB. In the 3-4 in Oakland, he had to be more cautious about running plays and his greatest asset as a player was neutralized. A 3-4 lineman and a 4-3 lineman require different skills, and it'd be nice if that was reflected in the game. Even if that was reflected in the game, there are different sorts of 3-4 defenses. Traditionally 3-4 linemen line up head-on to the center and ends. Buffalo back in the 90s ran an offset 3-4 where the linemen lined up between, so their guys played more like a typical 4-3 line, exploding off the snap rather than worrying about containment. It's why Bruce Smith was able to amass huge sacks in a 3-4.

But I think basic line blocking/attacking logic could be improved first, then see how things stack up. I really wish there was a pass/rush commit since that should significantly affect how linemen play.

[backbreaker]

Sacks can be had by the end-user. You have to really figure it out with line stunts. This is why Madden needs "Tiered Playcalling". So you can set up your stunts or whatever. As an end-user, you must on passing downs utilize the Right Stick for an attack options. You know up is Line crash to the outside and in the crash in. I just had some very good pressure games using the right stick to assist in my journey. The following film contains "R" rated subject matter for "V" violence. I was able to do this with Right stick up for crash out, A. Smith is the controlled player, so he starts rushing outside and then I push the right stick in and he spun toward the inside once he was free I push the right trigger R2 and he bee lined to the QB and I put a hurting on him and C. Collinsworth made some good commentary about it.

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[CreatineKasey]

I spent a good half hour in practice mode working on pass rushes today and here's a few things I learned:

You can definitely hold the R stick left or right for moves and tap it another direction if you want to switch it up.

I found for the best speed rush (using Harrison) I would speed burst until I made contact with the OT, then lay off the burst until my shoulder dip animation finished past the OT. Once free I sprinted to the QB and laid the shot.

If you speed burst the entire time your player will struggle to turn off the edge during a speed rush. It is wise to lay off the burst during and right after your engagement with the OL.

Sometimes OG's will be roaming free and pick you up off the edge.... LAME! To counteract this, re-route your DL to crash somehow and eat up those interior linemen to let you roam free.

It DOES work well to hold speed burst and use an INSIDE pass rush move as you really don't need to change direction after the animation finishes and you pass the OL resistance.

I've fanned my DL very often online and have had good results. Many players still drop back too far. Once people get disciplined and sit up in the pocket I'll mix up my line stunts, but as a rule of thumb fanning your DL on 3rd and long is pretty darn successful.

[bigal093]

i struggle getting sacks, b/c the problem is the D-line doesn't ever eat up anyone more than one player

casey hampton can eat up 2-3 IRL
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