Madden NFL 13 CCM Server Side Update Arrives Tomorrow, Fixes Salary Cap Issues

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

You can sometimes go by past history and patterns. If there are server fixes, sometimes, in the future, offline should be patched as well. We'll see.

With the previous history of offline CCM patches, have we had to restart, or have they been implemented in existing CCMs? If the latter, I'm fine with a patch down the road and staying offline. If I'd have to restart, though, I almost feel forced online, and I don't necessarily like that.

[DJ]

Quote: Originally Posted by JMP

With the previous history of offline CCM patches, have we had to restart, or have they been implemented in existing CCMs? If the latter, I'm fine with a patch down the road and staying offline. If I'd have to restart, though, I almost feel forced online, and I don't necessarily like that.

The other patches didn't require a restart for existing CC's.

The reason I like Offline is being able to save my progress whenever I want.

[mestevo]

They can't fix everything, especially as the more you tweak and patch the more likely things have the potential to break. It would be nice if at some point they announced end of support for Sony/MS title updates, but if work will continue on online CCM because of the different ways they can make adjustments/fixes (and then announce when that support has ended also).

Think that's pretty uncommon across the entire industry though. Usually it is accomplished (poorly) by simply remaining silent.

I think some combination of managing expectations and not knowing if these fixes would ever be deployed are why we remain in the dark until the week of or even a day or two prior. They could still be working on things, a title update (much higher risk, Sony/MS certified and distributed) or more online fixes, but regression testing could uncover bigger problems than they are fixing, essentially cancelling that fix due to resource availability.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

They can't fix everything, especially as the more you tweak and patch the more likely things have the potential to break. It would be nice if at some point they announced end of support for Sony/MS title updates, but if work will continue on online CCM because of the different ways they can make adjustments/fixes (and then announce when that support has ended also).

I would like them to keep support going until they have a working product. Why would you want them to discontinue support with things still broken?

Think that's pretty uncommon across the entire industry though. Usually it is accomplished (poorly) by simply remaining silent.

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

but regression testing could uncover bigger problems than they are fixing, essentially cancelling that fix due to resource availability.

Thorough regression tests should have been done up front and then maybe crucial support wouldn't have to extend this far out.

[infemous]

Has anyone else found that they've tweaked more than just the salary cap glitch? man coverage and pass rush seems to have been amped up too.

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

I would like them to keep support going until they have a working product. Why would you want them to discontinue support with things still broken? Think that's pretty uncommon across the entire industry though. Usually it is accomplished (poorly) by simply remaining silent. Thorough regression tests should have been done up front and then maybe crucial support wouldn't have to extend this far out.

Product working just fine for the vast majority of us. At some point they have to move on to the next title.

Not going to indulge in mythical perfect gaming development hypotheticals, the perfect and bug free game doesn't exist.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

Product working just fine for the vast majority of us. At some point they have to move on to the next title. Not going to indulge in mythical perfect gaming development hypotheticals, the perfect and bug free game doesn't exist.

Vast Majority? CPU AI isn't right, their are problems with playbooks. Theirs a pretty significant list of things that are still not right. That's not looking for some mythical perfect game. That's looking for a game that doesn't still have significant flaws. Nobody's talking about bug free. Have them keep working on fixing the game until the significant flaws are fixed.

[mestevo]

Which of these means Madden isn't a 'working product' ? Sounds like it has to be perfect to qualify by your description.

Just wrapping up a game right now, seems to be working to me. A nice tough ball control game, forced a couple late turnovers to pull away.

You're the one suggesting testing should catch everything, and that the game isn't working. If the game 'didn't work' then this forum would be on fire. Instead it's just the usual smoldering angst.

With the salary cap problem supposedly fixed, wouldn't be surprised at all if there isn't another update. Hopefully they're able to make it available to offline players also. To get back to my original post, in just wish it was more commonly communicated when they've moved on to the next title is all.

The game is the best Madden I've played as a franchise player, but will never be perfect.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2