Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

[MrOldboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by thaSLAB

I'm about to board my plane, but when we say memory we are indeed talking about storage data on the game cartridge, not processing...

Here's a quote by Russell that illustrates the data storage concern. Even though he says memory they are not referring to system memory (as in Random Access Memory or RAM), they are referring to data storage on the Vita carts which most people do not refer to as memory (but it is not wrong to refer to the data storage on the vita carts as memory since I assume they are using some sort of physical flash memory right?).

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

The Vita is a wonderful game console however it's memory is finite not infinite we can't add in all the presentation data from the PS3 version. The presentation data alone would completely fill the vita cartridge two times over.

But I still don't fully understand that argument completely. Are they saying that this year the cart will be completely filled? Last year the game was 2.8gb, the limit for Vita games is at least 3.3gb as someone pointed out was Blazblue's download size which was also released physically. If the devs continue to use the storage space argument, I'd expect to see the size of MLB 13 to be around 3.2-3.3gb. If it isn't than I'd have to assume as a consumer that space was left on that cart.

I really hope that there is still room on the Vita cart or else I fear the Vita version might become a bit stagnant especially on the presentation side. If that happens I really hope the devs become a bit more flexible and remove modes, presentations, and other elements to facilitate the Vita version keeping up with the core gameplay improvements the PS3/PS4 version gets. I'd be willing to sacrifice all modes other than RTTS and Franchise if those modes continue to keep up.

Thanks for checking out the Vita version at CD as I was much more concerned about that version than the PS3 one. I'm glad you didn't notice any framerate drops, although I'm sure a lot more testing would need to be made.

If the game is stable and at least 30 fps throughout with no drops, I'll be very happy. The other additions are just gravy to me at that point. I really hope that the performance is what it should be this year.

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by geisterhome

so which version made the bigger step forward from what they were last year according to your first impressions, the vita or ps3?

I don't think that's a very relevant way to think though, given that these two versions are not competing products. Both have pros and cons, and it is ultimately up to your usage (portable vs. full console, etc.)

[geisterhome]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrOldboy

But I still don't fully understand that argument completely. Are they saying that this year the cart will be completely filled? Last year the game was 2.8gb, the limit for Vita games is at least 3.3gb as someone pointed out was Blazblue's download size which was also released physically. If the devs continue to use the storage space argument, I'd expect to see the size of MLB 13 to be around 3.2-3.3gb. If it isn't than I'd have to assume as a consumer that space was left on that cart. I really hope that there is still room on the Vita cart or else I fear the Vita version might become a bit stagnant especially on the presentation side. If that happens I really hope the devs become a bit more flexible and remove modes, presentations, and other elements to facilitate the Vita version keeping up with the core gameplay improvements the PS3/PS4 version gets. I'd be willing to sacrifice all modes other than RTTS and Franchise if those modes continue to keep up.

there are rumors that the maximum size the vita cart can take is 4GB. so that could be the limit.

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

I don't think that's a very relevant way to think though, given that these two versions are not competing products. Both have pros and cons, and it is ultimately up to your usage (portable vs. full console, etc.)

I know it isn't lol. just trying to get a feeling for what to expect and how excited I should be abt the vita version. don't own a ps3 so I was kind of hoping it was close or that maybe the mlb the show 13 on vita is more improved

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[MrOldboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by geisterhome

there are rumors that the maximum size the vita cart can take is 4GB. so that could be the limit.

That has been what I've read as well, doesn't mean 4gb of usable space though.

But that is why I am confused about this whole storage limit argument. It doesn't seem like they've hit it yet. Or did they actually hit it this year?

[geisterhome]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrOldboy

That has been what I've read as well, doesn't mean 4gb of usable space though. But that is why I am confused about this whole storage limit argument. It doesn't seem like they've hit it yet. Or did they actually hit it this year?

yes wondering about that too. how big the game will be this year was actually one of my questions for the community day, but idk if they got to ask it/ got an answer?

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[nemesis04]

On a 4gb card only 3.6 is usable, this year the Show is just about there. The team does not want it to be stripped down either but there are mandates from Sony that have to be followed. There really is nothing else to discuss about it.

[geisterhome]

Quote: Originally Posted by nemesis04

On a 4gb card only 3.6 is usable, this year the Show is just about there. The team does not it to be stripped down either but there are mandates from Sony that have to be followed. There really is nothing else to discuss about it.

From 2,8 to about 3,6gb doesnt sound too bad to me!


Another question I have, which you guys probably can answer me without going to the community days, is if those features mentioned on the fact sheet under 1. to 50. are in the Vita version?

All of those or just some or none:

Quote:

1. Hitting engine improvements deliver more hit variety than ever before 2. Wider timing window across all difficulty levels 3. Improved ball physics (less ground rule doubles etc.) 4. Over 250 new fielding and running animations 5. Over 90 new batting stances 6. Over 130 batting stance re-captures for players who changed their stances 7. Over 50 new pitching motions 8. Over 60 new HR swings 9. New Defensive Positioning screen, view the whole field and watch your players shift on the fly 10. Franchise Mode: Team specific player valuations, which affect drafting, trades, free agency, etc. 11. Franchise Mode: Projected team budgets and free agents for the upcoming season 12. Franchise Mode: Previous award winners and each team's Hall of Fame members will now be tracked and displayed 13. Franchise Mode: Ticker in Franchise that displays scores, milestones, trades, etc. 14. Franchise Mode: Top 50 Prospect icon, used to indicate the best up-and-coming minor leaguers 15. Franchise Mode: Organizational Depth Chart which displays your starters at each level (AA, AAA and MLB) 16. New CBA "Qualifying Offer" system included 17. 7 New Minor League and Spring Training stadiums 18. On screen Tutorials to help you navigate some of the more complicated screens 19. New silhouette bat when bunting 20. Back picks while a catcher in RttS 21. Ability to assign swing animations when creating or editing a player... follow through, step in, etc... 22. Big glove for catcher when a knuckle ball pitcher is on the mound 23. Over 500 new presentations 24. Pitcher Energy/Rotations for Online Play Now 25. Mercy Rule for online games 26. Twitter in The Show 27. Ping indicators in online game rooms 28. New online ranked game Play Now flow with game worth 29. New post-game summary screen for all online ranked games 30. Player photos updating with Roster updates 31. In-game simulator when FF to the end of game 32. PCI Appearance - There are 4 alternate PCI appearances 33. Pitcher Batter Analysis will now display 40 instead of 25 pitches 34. New Throwback uniforms 35. More catcher animations on plays at the plate providing more exciting outcomes 36. Enhanced CPU base running. Less predictable and more human like behavior 37. New base running animations "around the bases". Allows for more control of your base runner 38. New Pulse pitching, Meter pitching, and strike zone art 39. New player accessories 40. New online ticker design, more stats and information 41. RTTS infielder’s pickoff request 42. New more interactive user steal system 43. Improved CPU pitcher substitution logic 44. New player card 45. Guess pitch evolution 46. RTTS Removal of the “green-light” system 47. Over 1,000 new RTTS-specific presentations 48. New RTTS user catch option 49. New RTTS On/Off options for ball halo and ball trail 50. Over 15 new batting camera’s and 5 new pitching camera views

[nemesis04]

^Just some of those are on the list.