Destined to lose?

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jordyn

Oh I don't think it's scripted at all, I think it's just a competitive edge given to a team that may be down by a lot. Momentum also plays too strong a role no question. And didn't someone say the original Show have an option to turn off this competitive edge feature?

I remember that's some rating boosts that the game gave to the losing side back in MLB 09 or some other earlier iteration. But it has been removed since... and what it did was just to give rating boosts. It was not like the game really was making certain plays happen to make things interesting.

From what I gather, the only things that could be considered some sort of momentum system is hot/cold streak (which is still just a small rating boost/penalty based on recent performance), which I don't believe is dynamic within a single game.

Another thing is that, while there's little visible indication, the effectiveness of a pitcher appears to dynamically change based on how you pitch. For example, if you keep relying on a particular pitch and overuse it in a game, then its effectiveness diminishes, because CPU has seen it so often and gets used to it. This also seems to be done in terms of slight rating boost/reduction. For more detail, see:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043493906

I think this particular post will be a true classic.... Something that keeps living even after The Show franchise and/or Operation Sports forums cease to exist. Probably posters and memes will be created about it when '10s become en vogue in a few decades.... Like the Beatles stuff.


In short, nothing is destined to happen, but if you have certain patterns that you tend to fall into, the game will catch up to you and you'll be punished.

[geisterhome]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baseball Purist

Anyone who plays this game on a difficulty higher than All-Star knows the validity of the original post, especially if you play a season or franchise without simulating games, which when simulating imo negates some of the wonky things that go into those loosing or winning streaks. To simulate the ups and downs of a real life slump in a major league season, the show often implements little things to continue a streak whether it's loosing or winning.

This.
I don't think there is a real comeback code in the game but much rather a losing or winning streak one in franchise mode. There are those games (streaks) in franchise mode where you just win easily. Every time i make contact its ending up being a hit and at the same time i'm getting strikeouts on mistake pitches. Often makes me raise the difficulty and regretting it later.
And then are those periods of the season where I just can't win even though there were times before I was dominating the CPU with just the same difficulty settings and sliders. This makes me replay games. I can't stand it sometimes when I keep making good contact with good timing and still I'm not getting any hits. And on the other hand the cpu is getting hits on pitches out of the zone. Of course this can very well happen in real baseball but the thing that proves it too me that it isn't just happening due to bad luck is that those things dont change no matter how often i replay the game, its the same every time. So see that im sure there is some code in the game aiming to create losing and winning streaks.

[wudl83]

I don't own the Show, I am a 2k12 player since I only got a PC. But I tend to agree that most results in those games are based on the player and a lot of strange games are caused by your attitude, emotions and your concentration.

As you can see I am Giants fan and you all know that Romo is the closer.
I have blown numerous saves with him. First I thought the game is tricking me but after some time I noticed my strange behavior. Let's make an example. I lead 3-1 in the bottom of the 9th and bring Romo in to close. I was acting very concentrated pitching the 8 innings before and mostly threw well placed and well thought pitches. But now the bottom of the opponent's lineup comes up and all I think is "well they can't hit anyway, all I have to do is get those lousy hitters out". Then I start throwing slider after slider into the strikezone and guess what? The save is blown sooner than later.
It took me a long time to realize things like that.

Yesterday I played the Twins against the White Sox, Hernandez (really bad) was my SP, Quintana (more bad than mediocre) was the Sox' SP. Since I know that Hernandez is a really bad pitcher I tried really hard, was concentrated on every damn pitch I made and although he could only go 6 innings because of his low stamina the White Sox only scored 2 runs off him. The opposite took place in my at bats. I know that Quintana is not the best pitcher so I tried to hit every pitch of him, no matter how far outside the zone it was. Result was I was getting K after K and I got more and more angry and my plate discipline got even worse. He took me 7 shutout innings before he was pulled, I only got 3 hits with 1 walk, no run and he struck me out 10 times. After he was pulled the game showed the chart with his location of pitches and I was shocked. Would I have been patient I would have drawn at least 5 or 6 walks...

And things like that happen so often. I get a good hitter to the plate like Trumbo or Beltre and all I do is swing swing swing...

But in most cases it is much too late when I realize what I am doing. It's like becoming another person when I play lol...

In the one game I got to pull Verlander after 5 because I thought with Verlander I do not have to spot pitches well, they won't hit me whatsoever. But then they bombed me. In the next game I throw a complete game shutout with Joe Blanton because every pitch is selected and spotted well because I thought about selection first.

[Cavicchi]

I played a game this afternoon that really got me mad. The opposing team got 5-6 hits straight up the middle for singles, meanwhile, my guys hit it straight up but right at the pitcher, just bad luck I guess. I won the game and so not a big issue, except for the fact that kind of stuff happens and it's annoying!

[ThrowBack]

So another year and another thread about comeback code claims.


I did a simple google search for “comeback code” for all of the major sports titles and I found that every game has been accused of having a comeback code.


So is this some kind of grand conspiracy or are people just jumping to conclusions?




MLB 2k


https://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282509


MVP Baseball


http://www.mvpmods.com/index.php?showtopic=7381


High Heat Baseball


http://simcentral.net/forums/showthread.php/8302-Comeback-Code




NBA 2k


http://www.operationsports.com/forums/nba-2k/542808-2k-should-ashamed-2k12.html


Madden


http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-its-game.html


NHL


http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ea-sports-nhl/450839-comeback-code-ai-cheating-boosting-threads-discussion-everybody-read.html


FIFA


http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ea-sports-fifa-discussion/586316-here-wiki-comeback-effect-cpu-has.html

[Jordyn]

I just had one of these badly:

Up 3-1 in the 7th. Michael Pineda cruising, but got Joba Chamberlain in the pen in case trouble brews. First batter ground out. Next batter is Matt Weiters. Quick 1-2 count. Throw fastball for chin music which he conveniently laces into the corner for a double. I knew this was the start of it...alway starts with some nonsense like that. Reimold with a chopper to the pitcher. Pineda fields cleanly but gets caught in the dreaded pitcher animation and everyone is safe. Sigh! Machado doubles to make it 3-2 so I bring in Joba. Sac fly ties the game at 3. Markakis singles and the Orioles conveniently take a 4-3 lead.

Bottom 7 I get the lead off hitter on with Gardner up so figured I'll sac bunt. Nope. Two fouls bunts lead to a k. Nothing else happens.

Top 8. Single. Single. Single. Bring in Logan. Single and error. HBP. Double. 8-3. Game. Set. Match.

This one didn't feel like baseball. It felt like a video game saying it's time to lose.

[Cavicchi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jordyn

I just had one of these badly: Up 3-1 in the 7th. Michael Pineda cruising, but got Joba Chamberlain in the pen in case trouble brews. First batter ground out. Next batter is Matt Weiters. Quick 1-2 count. Throw fastball for chin music which he conveniently laces into the corner for a double. I knew this was the start of it...alway starts with some nonsense like that. Reimold with a chopper to the pitcher. Pineda fields cleanly but gets caught in the dreaded pitcher animation and everyone is safe. Sigh! Machado doubles to make it 3-2 so I bring in Joba. Sac fly ties the game at 3. Markakis singles and the Orioles conveniently take a 4-3 lead. Bottom 7 I get the lead off hitter on with Gardner up so figured I'll sac bunt. Nope. Two fouls bunts lead to a k. Nothing else happens. Top 8. Single. Single. Single. Bring in Logan. Single and error. HBP. Double. 8-3. Game. Set. Match. This one didn't feel like baseball. It felt like a video game saying it's time to lose.

Were most of those singles up the middle?

[Jordyn]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cavicchi

Were most of those singles up the middle?

Yes sir, though not sure I see the relevance.