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Old 01-11-2016, 09:16 AM   #1
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Pitching windup animations - list a pitcher that needs a new MoCap

The batting stances in MLB the show, and fielding animations, have been DOPE for the last few years. However the pitching animations, while some were improved in 2015, have mostly been terrible since 2005.

A lot of players have that weird back leg bounce (see James Shields windup), or just have windups that look completely off.

Take a look at some of these comparisons:
Masahiro Tanaka - MLB the Show
Masahiro Tanaka - Real Life
(Note the leg kick and drop and drive - completely missing from the mocap)

King Felix - MLB the Show
King Felix, real life
(note the weird bendy back leg and stiffness of his Mocap.)

These are just two examples.

I will say that several of the windups were improved in 2015 - Chris Sale, John Lackey, Max Scherzer all looked much better.

I'd argue that something that would help was to mix in different pitcher follow throughs, as well as deliveries.
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Old 01-11-2016, 06:43 PM   #2
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Re: Pitching windup animations - list a pitcher that needs a new MoCap

Also Carter Capps of the Marlins (the guy that jumps) is not accurate

In Real Life: /yZJMLT98Vsc
In MLB 15 The Show: /_ddz0DBtn1Q?t=3m38s
(He doesn't hop toward the plate in The Show and he doesn't load his leg/turn his back like he does in real life)

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Old 01-12-2016, 01:57 AM   #3
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I will say that several of the windups were improved in 2015 - Chris Sale, John Lackey, Max Scherzer all looked much better.
I'd actually like a new mocap for Scherzer, or at least a new finish to his delivery.

RL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhe7yJEaNoc
Mocap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJEAzX7b9Mo
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:58 PM   #4
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90% of the new deliveries added this year don't have a correct finish/finishing position.

It's like they focused on the beginning and then just gave everyone a generic finish. The finish makes all the difference in the delivery, look how good Yordano Ventura's delivery looks.

Here's an example:



Strasburg finishes on firstbase side every time, in the Show, he finishes almost square to home plate. I noticed this with almost all of the new deliveries, they almost all have this same generic finish that Strasburg has.

Very poorly done.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:09 PM   #5
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Another "finish" that bugs me is Anibal Sanchez. The delivery is actually pretty good, but the rest of it? Not so much.

RL: http://m.mlb.com/video/v339331983/kc...ixplus-innings // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoaT-olTMY4

Can't find any video of Sanchez from MLB the Show on youtube so I'll have to record some of my own. It definitely doesn't look like Anibal does in the MLB.com clips.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:25 PM   #6
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Just a wind up that I feel needs to be fixed (big time) but it is Tim Lincecum. He needs an overhaul of his current delivery.
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Doesn't Kirby on the Dev team do most of the pitching Mo-caps? Or maybe he did a lot of the batting stances. I suppose they bring in some outside talent as well. But give the guys a break if some of the windups and deliveries are a bit off, they are trying to replicate hundreds of motions. A lot of work, a lot of time.

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Doesn't Kirby on the Dev team do most of the pitching Mo-caps? Or maybe he did a lot of the batting stances. I suppose they bring in some outside talent as well. But give the guys a break if some of the windups and deliveries are a bit off, they are trying to replicate hundreds of motions. A lot of work, a lot of time.
I think, in a stream last year, Kirby said they had him do a few certain players (i think he said star players, can't remember). I think it's probably the ones he did that actually look good (like Ventura, Bumgarner off the top of my head). And the ones he didn't do all look bad.
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