Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

[Kahler77]

I was wondering when trading Major league guys for prospects is their a certain percentage of the value you guys use to not go past with the top prospect in the return package.
Or does this vary so much that it comes down to what you think a team would truthfully part with for a player with that players abilities?
Thanks for any and all help

[MrSerendipity]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kahler77

I was wondering when trading Major league guys for prospects is their a certain percentage of the value you guys use to not go past with the top prospect in the return package. Or does this vary so much that it comes down to what you think a team would truthfully part with for a player with that players abilities? Thanks for any and all help

I tend to work off of what returns make the most sense per team. Using anything to formulaic wouldn’t work as not every prospect makes sense for each team. I like to check out the farm system of the team receiving prospects before I determine anything.

[jkra0512]

Quote: Originally Posted by kenp86

Would it take Jasson Dominguez attached to Stanton to move that contract?

Even with Dominguez attached to Stanton, you're still in the hole value-wise. We're talking a Kris Bryant-type value (WAR vs Contract)and then some.

I have Stanton, in his current state, at a -55.2 value and Dominguez comes in at 33 being the 54th-best prospect in the game, according to MLB.com.

Stanton's contract is a killer, and as MrSerendipity said, the Yankees aren't going to attach a potential generational talent to a trade to get out under a bad contract.

From Bard's calculations and from a realism standpoint, there's no realistic trade involving Stanton right now.

[bryanm1982]

I am wanting to start a franchise with the Cardinals. Wanting Arenado but that would make the Cardinals line up RH heavy. Looking to do a 3 way deal with the Rockies and Braves. I got the numbers to work out but since Arenado is 28 value the generator so the generator wanted me the Rockies to give up more. I was only going to have them give up Arenado.

Braves receive:
Arenado from Rockies 28.8
Esteves from Rockies 11.5
Freeland from Rockies 16.9
Oberg from Rockies 13.8
Ponce De Leon from Cardinals 6.8
Giving up: 77.8
Receiving: 79.1
Difference: 1.3

Cardinals receive:
Austin Riley from Braves 33.7
Drew Waters from Braves 46.8
Mark Markakis from Braves -1.4
Giving up: 79.1
Receiving: 78.0
Difference: -1.1

Rockies receive:
Gorman from Cardinals 35.1
Liberator from Cardinals 29.8
Knizner from Cardinals 6.3
Giving up: 71.2
Receiving: 71.0
Difference: -0.2

Braves reasoning: They get their star 3B for the future with no player opt out. They receive some bullpen help and Freeland can stand for a change of scenery. Maybe he can make the rotation. I could also do the deal without Freeland, Oberg, Esteves but the numbers wouldn’t work. But I’d be okay with the Rockies getting more for Arenado.

Cardinals reasoning: They get their potential 3B now instead of waiting for Norman. Riley can platoon with Carpenter at 3B and fill in the outfield. They get Waters to be their outfielder of the future to replace Fowler. That way Bader can be a platoon with O’Neill or Lane. Markakis would be a needed left handed bat on the bench.

Rockies reasoning: They get out of the long term contract of Arenado who is not happy in Denver. They get their catcher, a future starter and their 3B of their future.

So what do you think of this trade? This deal probably would be cleaner with Waters not going to St. Louis.

[whit3142]

Is there anything worthwhile that I can get for Seager or Gordon to aid in this Seattle rebuild?

[kenp86]

Quote: Originally Posted by bryanm1982

I am wanting to start a franchise with the Cardinals. Wanting Arenado but that would make the Cardinals line up RH heavy. Looking to do a 3 way deal with the Rockies and Braves. I got the numbers to work out but since Arenado is 28 value the generator so the generator wanted me the Rockies to give up more. I was only going to have them give up Arenado. Braves receive: Arenado from Rockies 28.8 Esteves from Rockies 11.5 Freeland from Rockies 16.9 Oberg from Rockies 13.8 Ponce De Leon from Cardinals 6.8 Giving up: 77.8 Receiving: 79.1 Difference: 1.3 Cardinals receive: Austin Riley from Braves 33.7 Drew Waters from Braves 46.8 Mark Markakis from Braves -1.4 Giving up: 79.1 Receiving: 78.0 Difference: -1.1 Rockies receive: Gorman from Cardinals 35.1 Liberator from Cardinals 29.8 Knizner from Cardinals 6.3 Giving up: 71.2 Receiving: 71.0 Difference: -0.2 Braves reasoning: They get their star 3B for the future with no player opt out. They receive some bullpen help and Freeland can stand for a change of scenery. Maybe he can make the rotation. I could also do the deal without Freeland, Oberg, Esteves but the numbers wouldn’t work. But I’d be okay with the Rockies getting more for Arenado. Cardinals reasoning: They get their potential 3B now instead of waiting for Norman. Riley can platoon with Carpenter at 3B and fill in the outfield. They get Waters to be their outfielder of the future to replace Fowler. That way Bader can be a platoon with O’Neill or Lane. Markakis would be a needed left handed bat on the bench. Rockies reasoning: They get out of the long term contract of Arenado who is not happy in Denver. They get their catcher, a future starter and their 3B of their future. So what do you think of this trade? This deal probably would be cleaner with Waters not going to St. Louis.

that makes zero sense for Colorado and get the worst package out of the 3 teams for giving up the beat player in the deal

[jkra0512]

Quote: Originally Posted by whit3142

Is there anything worthwhile that I can get for Seager or Gordon to aid in this Seattle rebuild?

Both don't have a whole lot of value due to their contracts.

Gordon comes to 9.2 WAR value, but he's owed $13.8M with a club option for $14M in 2021. This knocks him into negative territory (-4.6). He's age 31 and his best asset (his legs) are only going to get worse from here on out coupled with his dwindling on-base numbers.

Seager comes to a 19.1 WAR value, but he's owed $38M over the next two years (club option for $15M in his age-34 season in 2022). He carries basically no value (0.2 value). You might find a 3B needy team at the deadline and unload him because of his pop from the left side and average defense.

You'll most likely need to attach a prospect to get any sort of value, but that kind of defeats the purpose of a rebuild. What position(s) are you looking for?

[bryanm1982]

What if the Rockies give the Braves Arenado and the Rockies get Gorman, Liberatore, and Knizner. Cardinals get Riley and Waters.