Frank Mir made himself look stupid. I can smell his fear.

[Titus001]

Quote: Originally Posted by damien6663

ughhh it annoys the hell out of me when people talk about fedor as the GOAT.

Fedor = HW GOAT

[Luck911]

Quote: Originally Posted by Titus001

This list you have provided is more impressive then the fighters that Mir, Lesnar, and Couture have defeated in the past few years. And this is not even counting that each of the fighters that I've listed have lost fights in the past few years. The only heavyweight that can rival Fedors hit list is Big Nog....

Everybody on that list was in the UFC at some point.Fedor is legit but if want his legacy cemented he has to beat the best fighters and lot of best fighters are ufc.

What people are not getting "scrubs" or average fighters in ufc leave to become star in others places ,two of fedor big wins have come against people who star has faded in the ufc.Bad fighters in the ufc are still pretty good fighter.

Just like a great euro bball player or streetball player he may be recognized as one of greatest player but if he never played in the nba they will be doubts.

[LP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Titus001

Fedor = HW GOAT

I will never argue that.

[Phobia]

Fedor is NOT the GOAT. Until he comes to the UFC it will not be.

Now I do feel if he did come to the UFC, he would run through the HW division. I would like to see Lesnar and him fight.

But with that said he has already beat some of the better UFC fighters in the HW division.

Key wins
Big Nog x2 - 2003/2004 - Unanimous decision both times
Herring - 2002 - TKO
Coleman x2 - 2004 - Submission (armbar) both times
Randleman - 2004 - Submission (armbar)
Cro Cop - 2005 - unanimous decision
T. Sylvia - 2008 - submission (RnC)
A. Arlovski - 2009 - KO

Who he has left
Mir
Lesnar (HW Champ)
Kongo
Gonzage

Anyone say Couture has got to be joking. He is past his time by far.

But anyone on that list Fedor would run through, so yea I consider him the best HW right now.

[snakerattle79]

Mir is Overrated and so thus Brock, UFC HW's are probably the most Overrated HW's in the world

[LP]

Quote: Originally Posted by snakerattle79

Mir is Overrated and so thus Brock, UFC HW's are probably the most Overrated HW's in the world

This comes from someone who mostly posts new threads about anything anti UFC. Fact is, the UFC has the only names that Fedor has after Barnette. The entire HW division of MMA is in sorry shape, and an argument could be made that every HW is overrated based on that fact.

[Titus001]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

Fedor is NOT the GOAT. Until he comes to the UFC it will not be. Now I do feel if he did come to the UFC, he would run through the HW division. I would like to see Lesnar and him fight. But with that said he has already beat some of the better UFC fighters in the HW division. Key wins Big Nog x2 - 2003/2004 - Unanimous decision both times Herring - 2002 - TKO Coleman x2 - 2004 - Submission (armbar) both times Randleman - 2004 - Submission (armbar) Cro Cop - 2005 - unanimous decision T. Sylvia - 2008 - submission (RnC) A. Arlovski - 2009 - KO Who he has left Mir Lesnar (HW Champ) Kongo Gonzage Anyone say Couture has got to be joking. He is past his time by far. But anyone on that list Fedor would run through, so yea I consider him the best HW right now.

Are you saying that Fedor is not the hw GOAT? Or are you counting GSP/ Anderson Silva with the lower weight classes?

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Titus001

Are you saying that Fedor is not the hw GOAT? Or are you counting GSP/ Anderson Silva with the lower weight classes?

I honestly have no idea how to reply because it makes no sense to me.

Now the first part, YES I am saying he is NOT the GOAT. He is great but until he comes into the UFC and shows that he is the HW champ then it is a mute point to say he is the GOAT when he has not fought in the greatest organization in the world.

The second part about GSP and Silva I have no idea what you are trying to say.