Cyborg thinks Rousey is afraid of her? LMAO

[btrapp]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Thats not really true. There isnt a long history of superfights in MMA period. The biggest one was Penn/GSP 2 and that took place at GSP's weight of 170. Also you assume alot about that fight. One, who knows how well she will fight with out the roids. Two, as "well rounded" as you thing Cyborg, Gina Carano (a woman with limited grappling skills) mounted Cyborg within a minute of their fight. I dont see Rousey having much of a problem getting Cyborg to the ground assuming she can take her punches. Carano took them for an entire round. Coenan took them for three. ****, the majority of fighters who have faced Cyborg have lasted multiple rounds with her. So the question is who do you think can last longer? I'd put my money on Rousey avoiding a KO long enough to slap an armbar on Cyborg.

Since we have no idea how good rousey's cardio is, and since we've seen
seen cyborg go multilple rounds, I'd assume that cyborgs cardio is better. Secondly, the fact that gina mounted her doesn't mean much seeing as how great grapplers get put in bad positions all the time in mma. (Wageny fabiano even was submitted by mackens semerzier iirc). Regardless of how great you think rousey is, she's shown nothing but a good grappling game so far in her career AND has only been doing mma for a short time. You might not think cyborg is well rounded, even though she is, but you have to at least admit that she's a heck of a lot more well rounded than rousey. That being said, I don't think rousey has the wrestling required to get cyborg to the ground, and trying to use her judo on cyborg means she'll end up eating a ton of punches (which she is not used to taking) before she can get her hands on her. I feel the chances of her surviving cyborgs flurries for a few rounds are slim.

[btrapp]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Really? She hasnt made it outside of the first round in 7 fights and she spent the LARGE majority of those rounds on the ground grappling to get an armbar. I dont think we have nearly enough evidence to determine if she is a good or bad striker or even her power. Everybody loves to talk about how Cyborg is a great striker but she's extremely wild and innacurate. just powerful. She wings punches and has never fought anyone who punches equally as hard who could make her pay for her wildness (probably because the roids made her incredibly strong).

You're right we haven't see her strike a lot, but when she has struck her punches have looked weak and mediocre at best. I've certainly seen enough of her standup to know that cyborg could drop her pretty easily. It doesn't matter how wild you think cyborgs striking is, it's very powerful and very effective. Two words you can't use to describe rousey's weird looking jab like punches. (Also, gina carano and marloes conen are both very good strikers who come from striking backgrounds, and cyborg beat them easily. If her striking was as wild and inaccurate as you say it is that wouldn't of happened.)

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by btrapp

You're right we haven't see her strike a lot, but when she has struck her punches have looked weak and mediocre at best. I've certainly seen enough of her standup to know that cyborg could drop her pretty easily. It doesn't matter how wild you think cyborgs striking is, it's very powerful and very effective. Two words you can't use to describe rousey's weird looking jab like punches. (Also, gina carano and marloes conen are both very good strikers who come from striking backgrounds, and cyborg beat them easily. If her striking was as wild and inaccurate as you say it is that wouldn't of happened.)

You have no idea how well Rousey can or cant take a punch because she doesnt allow people to get clean strikes on her. With that said, she hasnt been rocked or knocked down in any fights and has taken strikes from 3 top ten Women's fighters. I dont know what you have seen from Rousey that would make you think she cant take a punch.


Here is what we do know:

- Rousey is a better grappler than Coenan and Carano.
- Cyborg's takedown defense is slightly above average which isnt good enough to stop Rousey's throws.

Thats all we know. Again, you seem to be willing to bet that a post roids Cyborg could knock Rousey out before Rousey could get her hands on her and take her down. Even in the fights you reference, Cyborg didnt walk through Coenan or Carano. It took her three rounds to beat Coenan and a full round to beat Carano and she beat neither by one punch KO. You dont have to be a good striker to be able to take a punch. All Rousey has to do is get a hold of her and the fight immediately changes.