NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

Still working on a few tweaks before I'm ready to post my full base slider set, but I'm getting VERY close (for real this time!).

Defense, Tendencies, Fouls, and Attributes are all nearly finalized and I just need to put the finishing touches on them. The sliders below are not my full slider set, but rather the settings related to movement/defense/turnovers that can be added to whatever slider set you're currently using to get my changes without hurting the rest of your slider set.


Movement, Defense, and Turnovers - Latest Update: February 6th

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Gameplay Settings
Difficulty - Superstar or HOF (User Preference; I prefer Superstar)
Game Speed - 54-56 (User Preference; Make sure to modify the Speed/Accel attributes accordingly)

Controller Settings
Defensive Assist - 0

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.


Offense
Pass Accuracy - 40 (Reliable passing, with some realistic miscues)
Ball Security - 60
Body-Up Sensitivity - 100 (Animations will trigger to acknowledge nearby defenders)

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Steal Success - 50

Attributes
Acceleration - 50 (49 if Game Speed is 55, 48 if GS is 56)
Speed – 50 (49 if Game Speed is 55, 48 if GS is 56)
Hustle - 100
Ball Handling - 60
On Ball Defense - 70
Stealing - 55
Blocking - 45/55
Defensive Awareness - 75
Lateral Quickness - 75

Tendencies
*Starting from scratch. Not ready to be posted*

Fouls
Shooting Foul Frequency - 100/60 (Increase CPU value if the USER is not getting enough FTs from shooting fouls)

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 55
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 40
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 60
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 45
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 80
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 65
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 75
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 60

What I'm Working On for the Next Update
- Overhaul of AI Tendencies
- Defensive Rotations and AI ball movement
- Fouls
- Shot Success balanced with Defensive Strength



PLEASE post any and all CONSTRUCTIVE feedback so that I know what needs to be improved! Try to point out what you are seeing too much of (ex. The AI attacks the basket too often), what you're not seeing enough of (ex. The AI does not go to the post often enough), etc. And also, it's just fun to see the results everyone is getting and to have a discussion on what can be improved/what should be left alone.


Enjoy!

[KG#5beantown]

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You're back! Finally!


I think section by section would be great.

[EccentricMeat]

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You're back! Finally!


I think section by section would be great.

Yea, knowing my pace and flip-flopping on tweaks, if I were to wait until the ENTIRE set is done before posting anything it would probably take forever lol

I think I may have already fixed the movement/animations issue in just my first 2 hours of playing and tweaking. Gonna test it a little more just to make sure I'm happy with it, but the game really looks and feels "right" already!

EDIT: My base "movement tweaks only" settings have been added to the OP. As noted these settings have not yet been fine-tuned and are just the starting point to make the game look, feel, and play more realistically when it comes to movement and animations.

Any and all constructive feedback is appreciated!

[jake44np]

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So your playing default HOF except the few adjustments above? And game speed at 60?

[EccentricMeat]

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So your playing default HOF except the few adjustments above? And game speed at 60?

I’m just working on the movement sliders first, as they are fundamental to making the rest of a slider set play realistically.

I’m pretty much done with my movement tweaks and will be posting the updated version shortly. Once that is done, I will start tweaking everything else.

HOF default has a lot of problems, and does not reflect how I want the game to play.

[Brooke2011]

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Nice movement! I looked at these because I strongly believe the game should be played on 60 speed . Nice reaction ability on both sides. I thought the game played really well .

[EccentricMeat]

NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Nice movement! I looked at these because I strongly believe the game should be played on 60 speed . Nice reaction ability on both sides. I thought the game played really well .

Yea, I've been bouncing from 60 to 65 game speed, trying to nail down which is the absolute best. Animations just look silly at anything lower than 60 or higher than 65, so it will probably just come down to personal preference what is "best" between 60 and 65.

[EccentricMeat]

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Just posted an update to the movement sliders that I would like some feedback on. Game speed has been increased to 65 and all movement related sliders have been tweaked.

These settings should make NBA players feel like NBA players. No more slow, zombie-like movements from world class athletes. AI defense is now much more difficult to breakdown due to the increased speed and explosiveness of all but the slowest of players. The fastest players still stand out, and those with average speed no longer move like they have concrete in their shoes.

[Brooke2011]

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I hate when players are running up the court after a basket. They are all hunched over. I’m looking forward to trying these out.

[Brooke2011]

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Also, are u seeing a better transition from running to stopping? I feel like it’s too abrupt and and their is this gliding effect with this over animated shuffle of the players feet. Almost like their is no weight to the players. The problem I’ve had is I can get either players that have some nice weight to them and they move smoothly, but lack that zip.

[EccentricMeat]

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I hate when players are running up the court after a basket. They are all hunched over. I’m looking forward to trying these out.

Also, are u seeing a better transition from running to stopping? I feel like it’s too abrupt and and their is this gliding effect with this over animated shuffle of the players feet. Almost like their is no weight to the players. The problem I’ve had is I can get either players that have some nice weight to them and they move smoothly, but lack that zip.

Might just be me, but I'm not seeing either of these issues with my current settings. Have you tried them out yet?

[Brooke2011]

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No I havnt . Lol I’m just talking based on 2k’s default settings and some of the pitfalls I have run into when trying to create my own sliders .

[EccentricMeat]

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No I havnt . Lol I’m just talking based on 2k’s default settings and some of the pitfalls I have run into when trying to create my own sliders .

Ahh, just wanted to clarify. I thought you were saying that those were issues you saw with my settings. Let me know if you give them a try and see any improvements!

[Brooke2011]

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Ok I tried these and def like the flow. I only changed the following:

Speed with. 65 (Max)
Speed with. 40 (Min)
Acc with. 85 (max)
Acc with. 55 (min)
Speed without 75(max)
Speed without 50(min)
Acc without. 85(max)
Acc without. 55(min)

My reasoning is better flow when back peddling and Branching animations. Looks a little smoother and just a little more in control.
65 Game speed gives a great flow by both sides and reaction to blocking , jumping and shooting is instant without delay. Passing is so much better looking on this speed. The speed and animation of the passing opens up the floor and rewards open ball players without having that delay on lower speeds. I think I shot around 45% in which I was happy about. I never felt not in control and could at least put players in position to score.

Great job!
*See if you like the movement a little better��

[EccentricMeat]

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Ok I tried these and def like the flow. I only changed the following:

Speed with. 65 (Max)
Speed with. 40 (Min)
Acc with. 85 (max)
Acc with. 55 (min)
Speed without 75(max)
Speed without 50(min)
Acc without. 85(max)
Acc without. 55(min)

My reasoning is better flow when back peddling and Branching animations. Looks a little smoother and just a little more in control.
65 Game speed gives a great flow by both sides and reaction to blocking , jumping and shooting is instant without delay. Passing is so much better looking on this speed. The speed and animation of the passing opens up the floor and rewards open ball players without having that delay on lower speeds. I think I shot around 45% in which I was happy about. I never felt not in control and could at least put players in position to score.

Great job!
*See if you like the movement a little betterí*½í±

I’ll give them a try! Funny enough I was using a max/min of 85/55 in earlier testing but changed it somewhere along the way. My only worry is that players with average speed might be a tad too slow without the ball, so we’ll see!