NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[rlb1976]

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These sliders are not it at all everything is off!

It'll probably be different when he releases his full set.

[EccentricMeat]

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Eccentric, I'm really hoping you can post your full set soon. I'm having no luck with other sets. I wanna try yours as almost a last resort. This is probably the worst year I've had with 2k trying to find the right set for me. It's beyond frustrating.

Yea this game is a bit of a mess. The lack of blocking/charging fouls really ruins everything right off the bat. You can’t be punished for forcing your way to the basket which just makes the game too easy and impossible to reflect reality.

AI tendencies are a whole other issue that can only be improved with sliders but not fixed, as a fix would require a better roster than 2K gives us...

Yo I like this movement set but there's not enough separation between the fastest and slowest players for me. It seems like there is rarely space on the court. Everything seems cluttered and defense reacts very quickly and recovers too quickly. Hope this was constructive for the next release.

Strangely enough this is what I was going for. You can’t cheese your way to the rim, but you can affectively break down defenders with well timed dribble moves and attacking mismatches.

Speed is realistic IMO, as no one moves as slow IRL as centers and PFs move with the base movement settings. Centers get beat off the dribble due to not being quick side-to-side, but they don’t just get blown past in the half court by pure speed alone as their length still makes them capable of defending well enough. On a fast break you should be seeing the bigs being outran easily, but they are much more potent in the half court. Still easy to break down with a step back or pull-up shot, or by simply starting one way and then exploding off the dribble in the opposite direction.

(Watch the on-ball defender’s feet. If they shift one way, you can react quickly and launch in the opposite direction to turn the corner on them)

Defensive difficulty was the whole point of my tweaks thus far, but you can always tweak it to fit the way you want the game to play. If you decrease things like On Ball Defense, Defensive Awareness, and/or Lateral quickness to make it easier.

Any specific situations that stand out as a problem with the defense?

These sliders are not it at all everything is off!

How so? This isn’t a full slider set, just the settings I recommend for movement, defense, and turnovers. I imagine if you’re just applying these tweaks to the base Superstar or HOF settings, the gameplay wouldn’t be ideal.

However, if you’re applying these tweaks to your own sliders or the slider set of your choosing and you don’t like it, I’d love specific call outs to the issues you’re having!

[rlb1976]

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Eccentric. I've been messing with Brooke's set some since like you he's focused a lot on movement. They play pretty well actually. I'm hoping you or just slider makers as a collective can get the game in playable shape. This year seems particularly challenging. My MyLeague is moving at a snail's pace because I don't wanna get to far in and need to restart. 2K needs quality competition bad!

[Chase Collins]

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It doesn’t make sense to keep tweaking here and there if they’re patching 2k20 every other day. It’s getting ridiculous

[EccentricMeat]

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It doesn’t make sense to keep tweaking here and there if they’re patching 2k20 every other day. It’s getting ridiculous

So damn true. The struggle is REAL!

Eccentric. I've been messing with Brooke's set some since like you he's focused a lot on movement. They play pretty well actually. I'm hoping you or just slider makers as a collective can get the game in playable shape. This year seems particularly challenging. My MyLeague is moving at a snail's pace because I don't wanna get to far in and need to restart. 2K needs quality competition bad!

Yea, I really want to just jump in to a MyLEAGUE and play the game instead of having to dissect every animation, foul, AI decision, etc. This year is a pain to tweak and 2K keeps patching and tuning the game every week, which throws all of our progress out the window.

[baconbits11]

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Eccentric and Brooke, I thank both of you for your tips to making this game playable again!

[RapCasso]

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Yea this game is a bit of a mess. The lack of blocking/charging fouls really ruins everything right off the bat. You can’t be punished for forcing your way to the basket which just makes the game too easy and impossible to reflect reality.

AI tendencies are a whole other issue that can only be improved with sliders but not fixed, as a fix would require a better roster than 2K gives us...




Strangely enough this is what I was going for. You can’t cheese your way to the rim, but you can affectively break down defenders with well timed dribble moves and attacking mismatches.

Speed is realistic IMO, as no one moves as slow IRL as centers and PFs move with the base movement settings. Centers get beat off the dribble due to not being quick side-to-side, but they don’t just get blown past in the half court by pure speed alone as their length still makes them capable of defending well enough. On a fast break you should be seeing the bigs being outran easily, but they are much more potent in the half court. Still easy to break down with a step back or pull-up shot, or by simply starting one way and then exploding off the dribble in the opposite direction.

(Watch the on-ball defender’s feet. If they shift one way, you can react quickly and launch in the opposite direction to turn the corner on them)

Defensive difficulty was the whole point of my tweaks thus far, but you can always tweak it to fit the way you want the game to play. If you decrease things like On Ball Defense, Defensive Awareness, and/or Lateral quickness to make it easier.

Any specific situations that stand out as a problem with the defense?




How so? This isn’t a full slider set, just the settings I recommend for movement, defense, and turnovers. I imagine if you’re just applying these tweaks to the base Superstar or HOF settings, the gameplay wouldn’t be ideal.

However, if you’re applying these tweaks to your own sliders or the slider set of your choosing and you don’t like it, I’d love specific call outs to the issues you’re having!

It could have been the slider set I combined with it sorry for the 1 sentence it pissed me off as I was playing lol but the cpu was so stagnant on offense holding the ball at the top of the key for like 14 seconds before running anything, taking dumb 3pt shots and they were moving really jittery a lot of times I've been working a new slider set and I'm gonna try your movement with it again because the speed at 60 is really to fast now!

[RapCasso]

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Eccentric and Brooke, I thank both of you for your tips to making this game playable again!

I've also been using brooke to what from brooke and eccentric are you combining?

[EccentricMeat]

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It could have been the slider set I combined with it sorry for the 1 sentence it pissed me off as I was playing lol but the cpu was so stagnant on offense holding the ball at the top of the key for like 14 seconds before running anything, taking dumb 3pt shots and they were moving really jittery a lot of times I've been working a new slider set and I'm gonna try your movement with it again because the speed at 60 is really to fast now!

Ahh, interesting. These settings won’t affect the offensive decision making so I can’t help you with that unfortunately :/

When I get my full set posted you won’t have that issue!

[rlb1976]

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Slightly off topic, but where would everyone say the best place to voice our frustrations with 2K is? Not that they'll listen, but it's gotta be better than doing nothing. I'm already not expecting much from the first next gen 2K because firsts on new consoles are almost always missing features etc. I stopped playing Madden years ago. Basketball is basically my only sports videogame fix. I really fear I'll have to start skipping as well, and I'm already an older gamer 😂.

[Eddiespagghetti]

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Slightly off topic, but where would everyone say the best place to voice our frustrations with 2K is? Not that they'll listen, but it's gotta be better than doing nothing. I'm already not expecting much from the first next gen 2K because firsts on new consoles are almost always missing features etc. I stopped playing Madden years ago. Basketball is basically my only sports videogame fix. I really fear I'll have to start skipping as well, and I'm already an older gamer 😂.

I guess on the 2k sports forums. And yeah, agreed. Ive been playing 2k since Iverson was rocking the cover. But sadly, it seems 2k has decided to cater to online players on the park, instead of improving solid core gameplay. I bought NBA live last year and habe no qualms about buying the next live instead of 2k if this lack of attention and care keeps up with the 2k devs

[itrey25]

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What’s your full controller settings ?

[RapCasso]

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Ahh, interesting. These settings won’t affect the offensive decision making so I can’t help you with that unfortunately :/

When I get my full set posted you won’t have that issue!

Running your movement set with Brookes sliders and shadys fouls and its great so far I think 3pt needs to be upped however to make for more realistic attempts but maybe it's because I'm in my league with old and new players and the old players don't shoot as many 3s!

[rlb1976]

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I guess on the 2k sports forums. And yeah, agreed. Ive been playing 2k since Iverson was rocking the cover. But sadly, it seems 2k has decided to cater to online players on the park, instead of improving solid core gameplay. I bought NBA live last year and habe no qualms about buying the next live instead of 2k if this lack of attention and care keeps up with the 2k devs

Me too. It's like they're forgetting the NBA in the title. Park play has little to do with the NBA game. I don't mind it being there, but not at the expense of realistic gameplay.

[baconbits11]

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I've also been using brooke to what from brooke and eccentric are you combining?

Using Brooke speed an foul settings otherwise eccentric's....I like a lot of their ideas.

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