NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[CaseIH]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

I'm not having any issue with getting a realistic amount of Free Throw attempts, but the problem comes down to getting a realistic variety of fouls. You can easily get 20+ FT attempts per game for the USER and the CPU, but the vast majority of fouls will come from reaching in or hacking a player at the rim. Blocking, charging, and perimeter shooting fouls are very rare.

I've been able to get shooting fouls on jump shots by lowering the Jump Shot (Gather) slider and increasing the Jump Shot (Release) slider. The reason for this is that lowering the (Gather) slider makes the AI more likely to shoot if there's a defender close by AND the game won't adjust the jump shot animation to respond to (and usually avoid) that nearby defender. The (Release) slider being high then makes the shot contest animation more aggressive and accurate, meaning they will get closer to blocking the shot and triggering a collision/foul.

The problem with this solution is that it leads to other issues (such as lazy perimeter defense where shooters have too much room and defenders don't fight to get through screens), so you need to compensate by tweaking shot success, on ball defense, defensive awareness, etc. so that it's not just a breeze to launch 3PT shots with impunity.

Try these settings and let me know if you see any shooting fouls on jump shots:

Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 25
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 75

Defensive Awareness - 100

Contest Shots - 100/75

Shooting Fouls - 100/75 (Lower the CPU slider if the USER is getting too many FTs off of shooting fouls)



Exactly this. They NEED to separate online gameplay from offline gameplay so that the two can be tweaked via patches/tuners individually. So many offline gameplay issues are specifically due to changes made to appease online players, and while 2K should 100% work to appease those players (as they give 2K more money), they should be able to do so without ruining the gameplay for those who play offline.

I dont have much of a issue getting close to a realistic amount of free throws attempts most games, its just the variety of fouls thats not getting called is where the main issue is like you said. I play with the on ball stel tendency slider pretty high, which tends to help get more fouls, and free throws.



I have in yrs past lowered gather and raised release on the defensive impact sliders, but last yr, I didnt really have much luck doing that, and I tried it this yr, and it didnt seem to help with the shooting fouls being called on perimeter and 3pt shot attempts. But I will try that and see if it makes a difference. Thanks

[zniv]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

I’m very close, so I will have it posted soon! I’ve been doing too many experimental tweaks too be able to upload the set as-is, it’s just not in a playable state yet. But these types of tweaks speed up the testing process as it makes the affects more obvious in game and thus easier to understand and fine-tune.

I’m almost settled on my Tendency and Defense tweaks, which only leaves Shot Success to finalize from there.

Looking forward to your set. Not amused with the last tune-up that made my set feel arcadey, it’s so infuriating when I’ve just settled on sliders I consider perfect and they change gameplay overnight without a word. I mean I’m all for improvement and whatnot but at least tell us what they changed instead of having us guess everything.

Last update seems to have boosted ball handling/security. Are you getting much turnovers in your set right now?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Looking forward to your set. Not amused with the last tune-up that made my set feel arcadey, it’s so infuriating when I’ve just settled on sliders I consider perfect and they change gameplay overnight without a word. I mean I’m all for improvement and whatnot but at least tell us what they changed instead of having us guess everything.

Last update seems to have boosted ball handling/security. Are you getting much turnovers in your set right now?

Yea I hate that they update gameplay without giving us any details or announcement, such a joke. I get plenty of turnovers due to these settings:

Pass Accuracy - 30/20

Hustle - 100/75
Defensive Awareness - 75

Play Passing Lanes - 100/75
Go for On-Ball Steals - 100/75


With these settings you really have to play smart as the CPU will punish you for spamming dribble moves or going for stupid passes, while at the same time your AI teammates don't just stand around like idiots on defense and will actually make a play when they realistically should. This also means more loose ball situations so the gameplay opens up a bit and can be a little more varied and exciting.

[archanax]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

v1.09 is out and seems it changes a little bit things again...

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

v1.09 is out and seems it changes a little bit things again...

And this is why I no longer rush posting my sliders [emoji23]

[Poke]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Exactly!

And this is why I no longer rush posting my sliders [emoji23]

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[Tynole14]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

And this is why I no longer rush posting my sliders [emoji23]

Do you put take inside and close shot on 0 for cpu? Because they love taking bad layups.

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[EccentricMeat]

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Do you put take inside and close shot on 0 for cpu? Because they love taking bad layups.

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Take Close Shot I have set to 0 but not Inside. Might give that a shot real quick just to see, as I want the CPU to attack the basket but not force a shot/layup when they shouldn’t.

[talladega63]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Take Close Shot I have set to 0 but not Inside. Might give that a shot real quick just to see, as I want the CPU to attack the basket but not force a shot/layup when they shouldn’t.

When you plan to release the complete set of sliders?

[Tynole14]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

Take Close Shot I have set to 0 but not Inside. Might give that a shot real quick just to see, as I want the CPU to attack the basket but not force a shot/layup when they shouldn’t.

Yeah, i put mine on 0 as well. What about the 2foot jumpshot? Don't see it a lot but would like to eliminate it completely

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[rlb1976]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

What's up Eccentric. I'm eagerly awaiting your full set because or your work on movement and game speed. I've tried everyone else's set (primarily Duce's and Shady's) and I need a happy middle ground. With the community set I think the movement and animations are a big issue and with Shady's they now feel too fast. Going between those two sets is very jarring in my opinion. Thanks for your hard work. I look forward to trying what you've cooked up.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

MOVEMENT/DEFENSE/TURNOVERS UPDATE

Still not my full base slider set, but I have posted pretty much all of my settings relating to movement, defense, and turnovers that you should be able to put into whichever slider set you're currently using without any issues.

Let me know your thoughts!

When you plan to release the complete set of sliders?

The full set will be posted once it's ready. Not waiting on anything besides getting it all working the way I want

Yeah, i put mine on 0 as well. What about the 2foot jumpshot? Don't see it a lot but would like to eliminate it completely

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This is why I don't put Inside tendency to 0, just to incentivize the AI to push through and attempt a layup instead of stopping and taking a confused 2 foot jumpshot.

What's up Eccentric. I'm eagerly awaiting your full set because or your work on movement and game speed. I've tried everyone else's set (primarily Duce's and Shady's) and I need a happy middle ground. With the community set I think the movement and animations are a big issue and with Shady's they now feel too fast. Going between those two sets is very jarring in my opinion. Thanks for your hard work. I look forward to trying what you've cooked up.

I just updated the OP with my current movement settings and I love the way the game looks and feels. Give them a shot and let me know what you think!

[rlb1976]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

MOVEMENT/DEFENSE/TURNOVERS UPDATE

Still not my full base slider set, but I have posted pretty much all of my settings relating to movement, defense, and turnovers that you should be able to put into whichever slider set you're currently using without any issues.

Let me know your thoughts!



The full set will be posted once it's ready. Not waiting on anything besides getting it all working the way I want



This is why I don't put Inside tendency to 0, just to incentivize the AI to push through and attempt a layup instead of stopping and taking a confused 2 foot jumpshot.



I just updated the OP with my current movement settings and I love the way the game looks and feels. Give them a shot and let me know what you think!

So just use the set I'm using but add the settings you've posted? Or would I be better off waiting until you post your full set?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

So just use the set I'm using but add the settings you've posted? Or would I be better off waiting until you post your full set?

You shouldn't have any issue adding my settings to whichever slider set you're using. Really the only issue you could run into is the improved defense making it harder for you to score, so you might want to increase your Shot Success sliders if your FG% is too drastically affected.

But really, whichever set you're using will have the Shot Success sliders tuned to mesh with the Defense Strength sliders, so there shouldn't be an issue.

[rlb1976]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

You shouldn't have any issue adding my settings to whichever slider set you're using. Really the only issue you could run into is the improved defense making it harder for you to score, so you might want to increase your Shot Success sliders if your FG% is too drastically affected.

But really, whichever set you're using will have the Shot Success sliders tuned to mesh with the Defense Strength sliders, so there shouldn't be an issue.

Ok thanks man. I think I'll try them with Shady's until you post your full set. I don't believe he messed with movement at all so it could be interesting.