NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

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So I’ve FINALLY solved a problem that’s been haunting me for years with NBA 2K.

It turns out that Game Speed has differing affects in MyLEAGUE vs Play Now. I do most of my testing in MyLEAGUE, but I also test in Play Now to check how other teams and players feel with the sliders as well. If you’ve paid attention to any of my threads throughout the years you can probably remember at least one instance where I mention that movement and speed feel different from day to day, or sometimes even game to game.

Well, somehow I didn’t pay attention to the fact that those differences were due to getting used to gameplay in one mode, and then switching up to another. (Sometimes I even stun myself with my brilliance...)

Long story short: Game Speed in Play Now gives a faster experience than the same value being used in MyLEAGUE. Just using the eye test, it seems like whatever you set Game Speed to in Play Now needs to be increased by ~2 in MyLEAGUE.

I currently recommend 57 or 58 in Play Now, and 59 or 60 in MyLEAGUE.

You guys have no idea how much this revelation has saved my sanity with this game. I can finally stop running in circles chasing ghosts with my testing day after day.

[DiceMan]

Re: NBA 2K20 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

So I’ve FINALLY solved a problem that’s been haunting me for years with NBA 2K.

It turns out that Game Speed has differing affects in MyLEAGUE vs Play Now. I do most of my testing in MyLEAGUE, but I also test in Play Now to check how other teams and players feel with the sliders as well. If you’ve paid attention to any of my threads throughout the years you can probably remember at least one instance where I mention that movement and speed feel different from day to day, or sometimes even game to game.

Well, somehow I didn’t pay attention to the fact that those differences were due to getting used to gameplay in one mode, and then switching up to another. (Sometimes I even stun myself with my brilliance...)

Long story short: Game Speed in Play Now gives a faster experience than the same value being used in MyLEAGUE. Just using the eye test, it seems like whatever you set Game Speed to in Play Now needs to be increased by ~2 in MyLEAGUE.

I currently recommend 57 or 58 in Play Now, and 59 or 60 in MyLEAGUE.

You guys have no idea how much this revelation has saved my sanity with this game. I can finally stop running in circles chasing ghosts with my testing day after day.

Thank you for this, for years I thought I was crazy lol.

[DonkeyJote]

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Played my first game with these and saw something I'm not sure I had all year; a four point play. Really enjoyed how they played.

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[EccentricMeat]

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Played my first game with these and saw something I'm not sure I had all year; a four point play. Really enjoyed how they played.

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Glad you liked them! Did you use the values in the OP? Or the ones I posted I couple pages back?

I’ve seen maybe two or three 4 point plays while testing. I wish I could say I knew what was causing it but I can’t take credit for that yet lol

[youngdrew23308]

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Is the 1st page updated with the most recent sliders or is it throughout the thread? I know it's not a finished product but just curious.

[EccentricMeat]

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Is the 1st page updated with the most recent sliders or is it throughout the thread? I know it's not a finished product but just curious.

The 1st page hasn't been updated since February, unfortunately. I've posted newer settings throughout the thread, but you really only need to pay attention to the settings a page or two back. I'll quote them here so you don't need to look around

Still mucking about with the defensive settings so they're definitely not set in stone, but I wanted to get them posted regardless. I also have a nice test set of tendencies I wanted to share so you guys have a better idea of what I'm working on. Not a full or finished set by any means, but a good place to start:


Offense
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 45/55
Dunk in Traffic Success - 45
Pass Accuracy - 40
Alley-Oop Success - 50
Contact Shot Success - 55
Ball Security - 60
Body-Up Sensitivity - 90
Pass Speed - 50

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
*Defense Strength sliders are WIP*

Attributes
Acceleration - 50
Vertical – 50
Strength – 50
Stamina – 60
Speed – 50
Durability - 50
Hustle – 100
On-Ball Defense – 65
Stealing – 50
Blocking – 40/50
Fatigue Rate – 40
Lateral Quickness - 70

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots - 45
Take Close Shots - 15
Take Mid-Range Shots - 45
Take 3PT Shots - 80
Post Shots - 50
Attack the Basket - 50
Look for Post Players - 90
Throw Alley-Oops - 50
Attempt Dunks - 50/65
Attempt Putbacks - 50
Play Passing Lanes - 100/70
Go for On-Ball Steals - 100/70
Contest Shots - 80/50
Backdoor Cuts - 50

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 100
Reaching Foul Frequency - 70
Shooting Foul Frequency - 100/60
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100
Illegal Screen - 52

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 65
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 45
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 65
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 45
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 80
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 60
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 80
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 60



Again, all of this is still a WIP and needs to be finished and fine-tuned, but I wanted to get something substantial posted FINALLY. Still need to work on rebounding, awareness, shot success, and the rest of the defensive sliders, so expect those posted sometime soon (tm).

Also, difficulty is Hall of Fame (will change to custom once you make changes). Game Speed is 58 (if playing in Play Now) or 60 (if playing MyLEAGUE). Decrease either game speed value by 1 if you want a slightly slower/heavier feel to movement.

As is stated in the quote, these are not final values nor is this a complete set. I left out the Shot Success sliders as well as the Defensive settings so that you can use the values of whichever set you currently enjoy, and play on Real Player % or Shot Timing based on that set's recommendation. I've been working on these every day since that post last week, so many of the values have been tweaked since then and will continue to be until I get the full set posted.

[DonkeyJote]

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Glad you liked them! Did you use the values in the OP? Or the ones I posted I couple pages back?

I’ve seen maybe two or three 4 point plays while testing. I wish I could say I knew what was causing it but I can’t take credit for that yet lol

The ones a couple pages back. And anything not listed I left at what the set I had been using was at for now. Played another game and it also felt pretty good. Getting animations I haven't seen, and I feel like I actually have a chance on defense.

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[youngdrew23308]

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So everything else is at default? And I'm assuming the 1 value means its the same for User/CPU. Just trying to make sure I got it all lol

[EccentricMeat]

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The ones a couple pages back. And anything not listed I left at what the set I had been using was at for now. Played another game and it also felt pretty good. Getting animations I haven't seen, and I feel like I actually have a chance on defense.

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Perfect, thanks for the feedback man! Sounds like you’re getting the exact experience I was going for.

So everything else is at default? And I'm assuming the 1 value means its the same for User/CPU. Just trying to make sure I got it all lol

Not at default, just at whatever setting you’re currently using with any other slider set. You should essentially be able to load any slider set you want, and then put in the settings I listed and it all should work perfectly together.

And yes, 1 value means the same setting is used for both user and CPU.

[youngdrew23308]

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Perfect! I do have another slider set I can combine with and will look forward to your final product.

[EccentricMeat]

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Sorry I haven’t gotten the full set finished yet. I’ve been spending every day this week building a shed in the back yard. Should be done building it today, so I can hopefully devote most of my time back into testing this weekend!

[EccentricMeat]

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Ok, is it just me, or did yesterday’s tuner/update jack up Game Speed again? I swear, I had to turn Game Speed down to 50 or else it felt like the game was in fast-forward...

[MattyEdgeworth]

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Ok, is it just me, or did yesterday’s tuner/update jack up Game Speed again? I swear, I had to turn Game Speed down to 50 or else it felt like the game was in fast-forward...

Yeah I thought something felt weird

[EccentricMeat]

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Yeah I thought something felt weird

I mean, good for them for finally fixing it and making 50 Game Speed realistic instead of slow-motion. But can they just stop messing with stuff in secret??

[jmarcguy]

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I hadn’t visited the sliders section in a long time but I’m glad I did. These are really good! I remember using the information you posted about the strength sliders years ago to rejuvenate the game on last gen. It’s amazing how the animations improve. Had a really good game with these sliders yesterday. Nice work!


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