NBA 2K25 Official Roster/Ratings Analysis Thread (Yearlong)

[sirdez]

Quote: Originally Posted by teknofilo

Guys but nobody thinks that the signature of the SGA Jump Shots are really really bad?SGA very often floats in the air and lets the ball go very late. In NBA 2K25 the release of SGA is almost immediate. Nobody modified it? If yes with the release of which player? Thanks

It's better this year than previous. SGA is probably difficult to animate because his set shot and step back (more of a push) is very different to his midrange and pull up J.

[Real2KInsider]

Whirlwind Weekend for me - haven't missed box score of a game yet this season so let's catch up

11/22 Games

SIXERS
Despite no Embiid or George, Beat Nets 113-98
McCain: 30 pts (11-20 FG, 6-11 3PT), 39 mins
Maxey: 26 pts (11-17 FG, 3-6 3PT)
Yabusele (GS): 10 pts, 11 rebs, 31 mins (Embiid DNP)
Oubre (GS): 11 pts, 9 rebs (George DNP)

McCain's performance firmly cements his 83 OVR status. Now averaging 27 PPG and 5 APG in 5 games as a starter.

NETS
Cam Johnson: Season-high 37 pts (14-21 FG, 9-13 3PT), Career-highs in FGM/3PM
Cam Thomas: 18 pts (6-15 FG), 7 asts, 7 Turnovers (use him as a McCain measuring stick)
Simmons: 2 pts (1-4 FG), 4 rebs, 4 asts, 26 mins (No Revenge game)

One point off Johnson's career high.
Last 3 games: 31 PPG, 60 FG%, 59 3PT% (19-32 3PT)

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CELTICS
Beat Wizards 108-96
Brown: 31 pts, 11 rebs, 5 asts (11-27 FG, 3-13 3PT)
Tatum: 16 pts, 9 rebs, 8 asts (6-19 FG, 0-10 3PT) - RIP 3PT%

Rough shooting night for the Celtics (43 FG%, 23 3PT%), but they'd need to shoot 10% to lose to the Wizards.

WIZARDS
Poole: 23 pts, 8 asts
Kuzma: 23 pts
Brogdon: 18 pts, 10 rebs, 1 ast (7-13 FG, 1-1 3PT) - Starting SG
Carrington off bench: 2 pts (0-5 FG), 22 mins

Perhaps haven't made clear the significance before but a lot of roster work is lineups and positions (especially in today's game where positions are much less rigid). So while things like "Brogdon (GS)" might seem innocuous logging, they're pretty relevant data points as to the big picture stuff like team direction & structure.

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WARRIORS
Beat Pelicans 112-108
Wiggins: 30 pts (9-14 FG, 3-5 3PT, 9-9 FT)
Curry: 19 pts, 7 rebs, 7 asts

PELICANS
Murphy: 24 pts (9-17 FG, 5-9 3PT)
Ingram: 18 pts, 7 asts
Elfrid Payton (GS): 4 pts, 4 asts, 3 stls, 26 mins
Javonte Green (GS at SG): 15 pts (6-9 FG) - He's the OG poor man's Herb Jones
Boston Jr off bench: 16 pts, 7 asts, 35 mins
Robinson-Earl: 19 pts, 12 rebs (7-11 FG) - Missi DNP in this one
Hawkins return off bench: 6 pts (2-9 FG), 20 mins
Reeves: 1 point (0-5 FG) - Big ouch to his value

Hawkins will probably return to the starting lineup shortly.
The combo of Hawkins return + this shooting night hurts Antonio Reeves chances of earning more minutes.

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BULLS
Beat Hawks 126-122
LaVine: 26 pts (11-18 FG)
White: 20 pts, 9 asts
Dosunmu (GS): 20 pts
Giddey (GS at PF): 18 pts, 6 rebs, 8 asts (8-10 FG) - Williams DNP
Vucevic: 18 pts, 13 rebs, 4 blks

Extremely relevant game for Giddey here, not from performance but positionally. He could supplant Patrick Williams as the starter given his struggles. I had Giddey as OKC's PF last season because that was more what he played on defense.

Ayo Dosnumu probably gives the team more on both ends than Patrick Williams, so going with the small-ball lineup is probably their best bet. There's no saving this team defensively regardless of who the 4 is.

HAWKS
Trae: 25 pts, 13 asts
Johnson: 25 pts, 13 rebs, 5 asts
Capela: 21 pts (10-14 FG), 11 rebs
Daniels: 8 pts (3-14 FG), 4 stls
Risacher: 4 pts, 3 fouls, 16 mins
Hunter: 14 pts off bench
Bogdanovic: 16 pts off bench

Hawks have some good pop on the wings off the bench, but could really use something from the minutes they're gifting Risacher.

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ROCKETS
Blowout Blazers 116-88
Brooks: 28 pts (10-15 FG, 6-8 3PT)
Eason: 22 pts, 22 mins off bench
Amen: 10 pts, 11 rebs, 4 asts, 3 stls, 2 blks, 24 mins

BLAZERS
Simons return (GS): 8 pts (2-7 FG) - Scoot DNP
Sharpe: 13 pts (3-9 FG)
Clingan: 9 pts, 7 rebs, 2 blks, 4 fouls, 15 mins (Ayton DNP)

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BUCKS
Beat Pacers 129-117
Giannis: 37 pts, 10 rebs, 11 asts (14-21 FG, 9-11 FT)
Dame: 24 pts, 13 asts
Trent off bench: 18 pts (6-10 3PT) - been saying for awhile but he's back
Portis: 17 pts off bench

PACERS
Siakam: 25 pts, 8 rebs
Mathurin: 20 pts, 9 rebs
Haliburton: 18 pts, 9 asts
Quenton Jackson (GS): 9 pts (3-6 FG), 22 mins

Not sure if I missed a game because Jackson had 24 pts (10-12 FG) in his first start vs HOU and I have no recollection of this lol (but it's also been a crazy week for me). Either way Jackson as a poor man's Nembhard is probably better than what they were getting out of Sheppard.

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MAVS
Beat Nuggets 123-120
Washington: 22 pts, 13 rebs
Kyrie (GS at PG): 19 pts, 6 asts - Luka DNP
Grimes (GS at SG): 14 pts
Marshall off bench: Season-high 26 pts (11-15 FG)

NUGGETS
Jokic return: 33 pts, 17 rebs, 10 asts (Triple Double #7)
Murray: 14 pts (4-16 FG), 11 asts
Porter: 17 pts
Braun: 17 pts
Watson: 15 pts
Westbrook: 16 pts

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CLIPPERS
Beat Kings 104-88
Harden: 22 pts, 9 asts
Jones: 17 pts
Zubac: 10 pts, 15 rebs
Coffey (GS): 11 pts (Powell DNP again)

KINGS
Fox: 29 pts, 7 rebs, 7 asts
Sabonis: 24 pts, 15 rebs
DeRozan: 16 pts (6-19 FG)
Murray: 10 pts
Rest of Team: 9 pts


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[Real2KInsider]

11/23 Game Notes

JAZZ
Beat Knicks 121-106
Lauri (GS at SF): 34 pts, 9 rebs (11-15 FG, 5-8 3PT, 7-8 FT), 0 TOs
Collins (GS at PF): 20 pts, 13 rebs
Kessler return (GS at C): 11 pts, 10 rebs - Filipowski DNP
Sexton: 25 pts, 5 asts
George: 11 pts, 9 asts

Big win for the Jazz, doing it with the big lineup and all three playing well is significant.

KNICKS
OG: 27 pts (7-12 3PT)
Brunson: 23 pts, 8 asts
KAT: 16 pts, 16 rebs, 5 asts (6-19 FG, 1-9 3PT)
Hart: 17 pts
Bridges: 7 pts (3-15 FG, 1-7 3PT)

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MAGIC
Beat Pistons 111-100
Franz: 30 pts, 9 rebs, 8 asts
Moritz: 18 pts, 7 rebs (had season high 19 in previous one)

PISTONS
Ivey (GS at PG): 19 pts - Cade DNP
Beasley: 18 pts
Sasser: Season-high 13 pts off bench

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GRIZZLIES
Beat Bulls 142-131
Pippen Jr: Career-high 30 pts, 10 asts (13-16 FG)
Wells: Career-high 26 pts, 6 asts (10-14 FG, 6-10 3PT)
Jackson: 23 pts
Huff: 14 pts (5-6 FG, 3-3 3PT), 19 mins
2-Way Cam Spencer healthy: 2 pts, 12 mins

Grizz w/ some ridiculous stats - Bulls were on a B2B

BULLS
LaVine: 29 pts, 0 asts
Vucevic: 26 pts
Giddey (GS at PF): 12 pts, 7 rebs, 8 asts (Williams DNP again)
Buzelis: Career-high 14 pts, 29 mins
THT: 10 pts, 17 mins

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BLAZERS
Beat Rockets 104-98
Simons: 25 pts
Sharpe: 24 pts
Grant: 22 pts
Avdija: 14 pts, 10 rebs off bench
Clingan: 0 pts (0-4 FG), 19 rebs, 3 blks

ROCKETS
Sengun: 22 pts
Green: 10 pts (3-14 FG)
VanVleet: 8 pts (4-13 FG)
Amen: 19 pts (7-11 FG)
Eason: 4 pts (0-7 FG)

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BUCKS
Beat Hornets 125-119
Giannis: 32 pts, 11 rebs, 6 asts
Dame: 31 pts
Trent: 16 pts (6-8 FG, 4-5 3PT)

HORNETS
LaMelo Ball: Career-high 50 pts (17-38 FG, 6-17 3PT, 10-13 FT), 10 asts, 40 mins
Miller: 32 pts, 11 rebs
Grant Williams (GS at PF): 8 pts (2-6 FG) - Tore ACL, out for season

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SPURS
Beat Warriors 104-94
Wemby return: 25 pts, 7 rebs, 9 asts
Barnes: 22 pts (7-8 FG)
Castle: 19 pts
Paul: 9 pts, 7 asts (Revenge game)

WARRIORS
Wiggins: 20 pts
Curry: 14 pts

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NUGGETS
Beat Lakers 127-102
Jokic: 34 pts, 13 rebs, 8 asts
Porter: 24 pts, 11 rebs
Braun: 16 pts (7-7 FG, 2-2 3PT)
Murray: 14 pts, 5 asts
Westbrook: 14 pts, 11 asts

LAKERS
AD: 14 pts, 10 rebs (6-19 FG)
LeBron: 18 pts, 6 rebs, 7 asts
Rui return (GS): 10 pts, 23 mins
Knecht back to bench: 9 pts, 28 mins

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11/24 Game Notes

CELTICS
Beat Wolves 107-105
Tatum: 26 pts
Brown: 29 pts
White: 19 pts

WOLVES
Edwards: 28 pts, 9 rebs, 7 asts
Randle: 23 pts
Gobert: 10 pts, 20 rebs
DiVincenzo (GS): 11 pts (Conley DNP)
Dillingham: Career-high 14 pts (6-10 FG), 16 mins

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PACERS
Beat Wiz 115-103

WIZARDS
Brogdon (GS at PG): 15 pts, 5 asts (Poole DNP)
Sarr: 17 pts, 14 rebs
Coulibaly: 17 pts
George: 15 pts

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HEAT
Beat Mavs 123-118 (OT)
Butler: 33 pts, 9 rebs, 6 asts (11-17 FG, 0-0 3PT, 11-16 FT)
Bam: 19 pts, 11 rebs, 5 asts (8-20 FG, 3-6 3PT)
Herro: 18 pts, 10 rebs, 5 asts
Larsson: 14 pts (6-8 FG)
Burks: 15 pts

MAVS
Kyrie: 27 pts, 6 asts
Washington: 21 pts, 10 rebs
Lively: 14 pts, 13 rebs
Klay: 15 pts
Marshall: 20 pts

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CLIPPERS
Beat Sixers 125-99
Harden: 23 pts, 8 asts
Jones: 18 pts
Zubac: 16 pts, 12 rebs
Mann: 13 pts (5-6 FG)

SIXERS
McCain: 18 pts, 4 asts (3-15 FG, 2-11 3PT, 10-12 FT)
Maxey: 17 pts

Getting to the line great sign for McCain on an off-shooting night.

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CAVS
Beat Raptors 122-108
Mitchell: 26 pts
Allen: 23 pts, 13 rebs
Jerome: 26 pts, 6 asts, 4 stls (9-14 FG)

RAPTORS
Barnes (GS at PG): 18 pts, 7 rebs, 7 asts
Poeltl: 12 pts, 19 rebs
Dick: 18 pts
Mogbo: 13 pts

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NETS
Beat Kings 108-103
Thomas: 34 pts, 6 asts
Johnson: 16 pts
Clowney: 18 pts (5-8 3PT)

KINGS
Fox: 31 pts (10-16 FG)
Murray: 21 pts
Sabonis: 13-18-7

[Real2KInsider]

PLAYERS OF WEEK

Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL)
32.5 PPG, 10.8 RPG, 7.3 APG, 61 FG%
Bucks go 4-0 (they are 7-1 in last 8)

Harrison Barnes (SAS)
22.3 PPG, 8.7 RPG, 1.7 APG, 62 FG%, 60 3PT%
Spurs go 3-0 (Two games w/o Wemby - including vs OKC)
Barnes had no games > 20 points in his first 14 games (9.2 PPG previously)

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11/25 Game Notes

MAGIC (12-7)
Beat Hornets 95-84
Franz: 21 pts
Four backups in double figures (no other starters)
Harris (GS): 7 minutes (left w/ Hamstring strain) - Suggs DNP / Black started 3Q

HORNETS (6-11)
LaMelo: 44 pts, 9 rebs, 7 asts, 7 TOs (17-30 FG)
Miller: 20 pts, 10 rebs (6-17 FG)
Rest of Starters (Salaun/Green/Gibson): 5 pts (2-15 FG)
No other Hornet in double figures. LaMelo w/ half the team's points, he can't beat teams alone.

LaMelo's last 3 gms:
43 PPG, 7 RPG, 9 APG, 37 MPG
46-95 FG (48%), 14-42 3PT (33%), 23-29 FT (79%)

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MAVS (10-8)
Beat Hawks 129-119 despite no Luka/Klay/Grimes
Kyrie: 32 pts, 6 asts
Hardy (GS for Luka): 23 pts
Marshall (GS for Klay): 22 pts
Dinwiddie: Season-high 22 pts off bench

HAWKS (7-11)
Johnson: 28 pts, 11 rebs
Trae: 18 pts, 16 asts
Bogey: 18 pts off bench

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KNICKS (10-7)
Blowout Nuggets 145-118
OG: Career-high 40 pts (16-23 FG, 5-7 3PT)
KAT: 30 pts, 15 rebs (12-15 FG, 2-2 3PT)
Brunson: 23 pts, Career-high 17 asts (8-14 FG, 4-5 3PT)
Hart: 12 pts (5-5 FG)
McBride return: 13 pts



NUGGETS (9-7)
Jokic: Only 22-7-7
Murray: 20 pts, 7 asts
Porter: 18 pts, 10 rebs
Westbrook: 27 pts (9-16 FG, 4-7 3PT)
But no defense played at all, Brunson had a field day

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PISTONS (8-11)
Beat Raptors 102-100 despite no Cade
Ivey: 25 pts, 8 asts
Ausar season debut: 5 pts, 4 asts off bench

RAPTORS (4-14)
Barnes (GS at PF): 31 pts, 14 rebs, 7 asts
Mitchell (GS at PG): 3 pts (1-7 FG) - Dick DNP

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CELTICS (15-3)
Blowout Clippers 126-94
Porzingis return (GS): 16 pts, 23 mins (6-12 FG)
Pritchard: 20 pts



CLIPPERS (11-8)
Zubac: 23 pts, 10 rebs (11-14 FG)
Harden: 19-8-9

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NETS (8-10)
Upset Warriors 128-120
Schroder: 31 pts, 7 asts
Wilson (GS at PF): 18 pts, 7 rebs (DFS/Clowney DNP)
Ziaire Williams (GS at Center): 19 pts, 10 rebs (Simmons/Claxton DNP)
Thomas: 23 pts, 23 mins (left w/ injury)
Cam Johnson: 5 pts, 13 mins (left w/ injury)

WARRIORS (12-5)
Curry: 28 pts

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PACERS (8-10)
Beat Pels 114-110
Haliburton: 34 pts, 13 asts (9-18 3PT)
Quenton Jackson (GS): 12 pts, 4 asts

PELICANS (4-14)
Murphy: 24 pts
CJ McCollum (return): 23 pts
Elfrid Payton: 14 pts, Career-high 21 asts (HOLY **** Welcome back to the NBA)
Theis (GS): 8 pts, 17 mins
Missi return: 16 pts, 13 rebs, 31 mins off bench



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GRIZZLIES (11-7)
Battered the Blazers 123-98
Morant return: 22 pts, 11 asts, 23 mins
Jackson: 21 pts
Aldama: 13 pts, 17 rebs, 22 mins off bench
Pippen: Only 3 pts, 4 asts, 14 mins off bench

BLAZERS (7-11)
Sharpe: 15 pts
Williams (GS): 6 pts, 12 mins (left w/ concussion) - Jabari Walker started 3Q
Simons: 5 pts (2-14 FG)
Grant: 11 pts, 21 mins (also left w/ injury)
Avdija: 17-8-6 in 32 mins, filling in for Grant in 2nd half

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THUNDER (13-4)
Blowout Kings 130-109
Shai: 37 pts, 11 asts (13-20 FG)
Hartenstein (GS at C): 17 pts, 10 rebs
Williams (GS at PF): 28 pts, 5 asts (10-16 FG)
Wiggins (GS at SF): 8 pts, 22 mins
Dort (GS at SG): 0 pts, 10 rebs, 39 mins (0-2 FG)

KINGS (8-10)
DeRozan: 30 pts, 6 asts
Sabonis: 21 pts, 10 rebs
Fox: 14 pts, 5 asts
Murray: 14 pts, 10 rebs
Ellis (GS at SG): 8 pts (2-3 3PT) - Not sure if GS only for Shai matchup or permanent
Huerter off bench: 0 pts, 10 mins
Monk return: 14 pts, 26 mins

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BULLS (8-11)
Blowout Wizards 127-108
White: 21 pts, 8 rebs
Vucevic: 19 pts, 12 rebs

WIZARDS (2-14)
Sarr: 20 pts (7-11 FG, 4-5 3PT) - Vuce defense strikes again lol
Brogdon (GS at PG): 15 pts, 4 asts (Poole DNP)

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BUCKS (9-9)
Beat Heat 106-103 (5th win in row)
Dame: 37 pts, 12 asts
Lopez: 13 pts (5-6 FG, 3-3 3PT)
Andre Jackson (GS at PF): 6 pts, 9 rebs (Giannis DNP)
AJ Green (GS at SG): 9 pts
Trent: 2 pts (1-9 FG), first bad game in awhile

Don't look now but the Bucks crawled back to 5th in the East

HEAT (7-8)
Butler: 23 pts, 5 asts (6-12 FG, 11-13 FT)
Bam: 16 pts, 5 asts
Herro: 18 pts, 5 asts
Robinson (GS at SG): 11 pts, 5 asts
Rozier off bench: 17 pts, 0 asts (7-9 FG, 3-4 3PT)
Love: 2 pts (0-5 FG), 7 mins

Great decision to stagger Herro/Rozier that pairing just hasn't worked

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ROCKETS (13-6)
Beat Wolves 117-111
Sengun: 22 pts, 10 rebs, 11 asts, 3 stls, 3 blks (3rd Triple Double)
VanVleet: 27 pts, 8 rebs, 11 asts (10-25 FG, 6-12 3PT)
Smith: 19 pts, 7 rebs (8-9 FG)
Brooks: 22 pts
Amen: 15 pts, 8 rebs, 4 stls, 3 blks, 38 mins
Eason: 0 pts (0-5 FG)

WOLVES (8-9)
Edwards (GS at PG): 29 pts, 10 rebs, 1 ast
Randle: 21 pts
Gobert: 5 pts, 16 rebs
McDaniels: 9 pts (4-16 FG, 1-8 3PT)
DiVincenzo (GS): 3 pts, 3 asts (1-5 FG, 0-4 3PT) - Conley DNP
Reid: 19 pts
Dillingham: 12 pts (5-13 FG), 25 mins
NAW: 13 pts (6-7 FG)

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SPURS (10-8)
Beat Jazz 128-115
Wemby: 34 pts, 7 rebs, 3 blks (13-23 FG, 6-14 3PT, 2-2 FT)
Barnes: 8 pts (2-6 FG) - Won't repeat as Player of Week / no Usage w/ Wemby around
Castle: 23 pts, 5 asts
Champagnie: 15 pts (4-9 3PT)

JAZZ (4-13)
George: 26 pts, 7 asts (9-16 FG, 6-12 3PT)
Collins: 20 pts (7-10 FG), 13 rebs (is he really the best Jazz player this year?)
Lauri: 14 pts (5-14 FG)
Sexton: 20 pts

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SUNS (10-7)
Blowout Lakers 127-100
Booker: 26 pts, 10 asts
Durant returns: 23 pts (9-17 FG, 3-6 3PT)
Beal returns: 23 pts (10-15 FG)
Nurkic: 12 pts, 12 rebs

LAKERS (10-7)
Davis: 25 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 4 blks
LeBron: 18 pts, 8 rebs, 10 asts
Reaves: 15 pts
Russell: 16 pts, 4 asts

[RoyalKrimpet]

I think something needs to be said about Ben Simmons.

His stat line does not jump out at 5, 6.5, & 5. This partially because his minutes are way down, but his defense has been 1st Team level so far.

When he is on the court he takes on the biggest perimeter threat most of the time and forces them into taking a ridiculous amount of bad shots.

He's at about 2 and 1/2 turnovers a game. But from what I see that is because his teammates are not used to his passing yet, which is also elite. He's Lebron level fast in transition. I think what's they are used to playing with him, The Nets will be even more fun to watch than they are now.

I don't know if they will give him Defensive player of the year because that is more of a stat thing now, but his Defense is on that level. Again, he should be First Team for sure alongside Dort from OKC & Wemby.

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by RoyalKrimpet

I think something needs to be said about Ben Simmons. His stat line does not jump out at 5, 6.5, & 5. This partially because his minutes are way down, but his defense has been 1st Team level so far. When he is on the court he takes on the biggest perimeter threat most of the time and forces them into taking a ridiculous amount of bad shots. He's at about 2 and 1/2 turnovers a game. But from what I see that is because his teammates are not used to his passing yet, which is also elite. He's Lebron level fast in transition. I think what's they are used to playing with him, The Nets will be even more fun to watch than they are now. I don't know if they will give him Defensive player of the year because that is more of a stat thing now, but his Defense is on that level. Again, he should be First Team for sure alongside Dort from OKC & Wemby.

Simmons' production hasn't really changed much over the last 3 years. He's averaged only 25 MPG over the last 3 years, this is just who he is now. He's a higher profile version of Jonathan Isaac.

He doesn't play anywhere near enough to win DPOY (much less make a Defensive team).

Defenses definitely don't fear him / gameplan around him the way they do Wembanyama or Gobert.