Offensive Pick and Roll Defense

[NZ Buccaneer]

Great detailed info - only played Mycareer so far, so will see what I find when not solely using a C!

[ruonboothb]

It's nice to see a constructive thread instead of just bashing the game or the devs.

[DIESEL]

Good info 2_headedmonster.

I think part of the issue may have something to do with different individual defensive settings and the POE's fighting with themselves

We need some clarification on the hierarchy of these settings.

If the big's individual defensive setting is set to no or soft hedge, but the POE is limit perimeter shots what his he going to do? One directive is telling him to contain the PnR ball handler, but the other is telling him to stay close with his man setting the screen. And to throw in a third factor I believe the cpu also has off ball-pressure individual defensive setting it's "thinking" about.

I play a lot of games as the Heat and the CPU always knows to sag off of D-Wade off ball because he can't hit 3's. In the example the OP is using the screen is being set by Ibaka, probably one of the better outside shooting big men in the game. I wonder if the AI big struggles on performing his PnR contain responsibilities vs staying "tight" on Ibaka.

A developer explanation on how the individual defensive settings work in conjunction with the POE's would be appreciated. In the mean time when I am on defense if I am going to use individual defensive settings I put the POE's on neutral defensive focus and it's been working well.

[meccs]

Awesome 2_headedmonster! It's such a brilliant play, I wonder who came up with it first... hard to get right though as you pointed out.

[lilweezy45]

i believe with the POE we should have the option to leave it on (none) like on 2k14 i believe since they brought back the individual settings it just will cause confusing with the way you want to play defense if you set it up a certain way and using POE

[2_headedmonster]

Im hoping this thread resulted in a significant improvement in 2ks pick and roll defense.

[yonly1ME]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2_headedmonster

Im hoping this thread resulted in a significant improvement in 2ks pick and roll defense.

This was a good thread to read, hopefully 2k incorporates its into coaching sliders for 2k16 where they have default PnR settings for each team so the CPU will play defense like their real life counterparts.

[fpliii]

From stats.nba.com:

Median % of team plays finished by PnX handler: 14.9

source: http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/bal...gular%20Season

Median % of team plays finished by PnX screener: 6.7

source: http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/rol...ason&sort=Time

Something like 21.6% of total possessions are of the Pick-and-X variety. Probably a little higher:

Median % of team transition possessions: 13.5%

source: http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/tra...ason&sort=Time

Median % of team offensive rebounding possessions: 5.75%

source: http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/put...gular%20Season

Median % of team miscellaneous possessions: 6.2%

source: http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/mis...ason&sort=Time

So, roughly 21.6 / (100-13.5-5.75-6.2) = 29.0% of half court possessions, against set defenses, are Pick-and-X. Further, tons of other plays utilize PnX action, even if it doesn't finish a play. It's a huge part of gameplanning on both ends of the floor.

2k always does a great job, really hoping they put some work into the PnX this season on both ends (guys who know the game inside and out gave some great suggestions in this thread and others). Pretty optimistic since this thread has been around for so long. Looking forward to updates in 2k16.