Please Don't End 2k15 Like this

[nyccc]

Its a shame. Ever since the last patch the Jordan Rec Center is no longer as fun as it used to be. Im disappointed in everyone complaining for more green releases. Yes this may have improved Online H2H but it has broken the JRC. Having people shoot 60% all on jump shots is ridiculous. This patch may have helped

Im a Legend 2. Ive seen all the cheeses but atleast some were counterable.

All Im asking is too please decrease the made shot % by a smidge.
Increase the effect of shot contest.

People shouldn't be pulling up midrange jumpshots on a fast break.
People shouldn't be shooting 90% in the corner

And for the people who are gonna post "JRC is full of lil kids, cheesers, blah blah.. Dont play that garbage" I dont wanna hear it, take it to another thread.

Im not expecting or asking for a simulated real life game because at this point of the year its a lost cause and would be asking too much. I know that.

Im asking for a little change to balance the game. A game of Offense/Defense are at equal levels.

Its ok if someone shoots at this % if they are wide open. But contested should be rewarded atleast once in a while.

And don't question me if I dont know how to play. I play with shot contest on always. 40 Defensive assist. Don't hold turbo and press L2 only when a ballhandler comes in contact with my player. I know what animation is contested and whats not. All im asking is for defense to be more effective.

[Jrocc23]

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Agree 100%. But it seems like Mike Wang is trying to defend his reasoning from what I've seen on Twitter.

I mean, Leftos globally decreasing players shooting shows they know it was a bad move. I lost a lot of interest in playing MyCareer and 2K in general because of this. People make the silliest stuff now.

I am hoping they just put the shooting percentages back to how they used to be and work on shooting or whatever for 2K16. I doubt they'll fix it, but I am hoping they do.

[Gosens6]

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For me, shot % is always way too high playing offline as well. After consistently shooting 60+ percent every game against the AI, I've shelved the game until 2K16. This game took a big step back for me because of this, it's nearly unplayable.

[joosegoose]

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I'm not convinced the AI knows how to properly defend with the global ratings changes (e.g. a 72 rated 3 pt shooter seemed to be sagged off a bit much), so I wish they would "fix" the shooting so that the global ratings edits aren't needed.

That being said, in the meantime I don't believe the changes with "green releases" affect Real FG%. Apologies if I'm mistaken, but if correct then saying the game is unplayable seems a bit overkill. It certainly must stink to not be able to use preferred settings, but would anyone say the game is unplayable if, say, the "who to guard" arrow could not be toggled?

With regards to the comment about "shooting 90% in the corner," Wang has stated that corner 3s do not go in at a higher rate than other 3s. I actually consider this unfortunate as it is well documented that corner 3s go in at a much higher clip due to being a closer shot.

[pcasebpev]

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This game took a big step back for me because of this, it's nearly unplayable.

[thedream2k16]

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Its a shame. Ever since the last patch the Jordan Rec Center is no longer as fun as it used to be. Im disappointed in everyone complaining for more green releases. Yes this may have improved Online H2H but it has broken the JRC. Having people shoot 60% all on jump shots is ridiculous. This patch may have helped

Im a Legend 2. Ive seen all the cheeses but atleast some were counterable.

All Im asking is too please decrease the made shot % by a smidge.
Increase the effect of shot contest.

People shouldn't be pulling up midrange jumpshots on a fast break.
People shouldn't be shooting 90% in the corner

And for the people who are gonna post "JRC is full of lil kids, cheesers, blah blah.. Dont play that garbage" I dont wanna hear it, take it to another thread.

Im not expecting or asking for a simulated real life game because at this point of the year its a lost cause and would be asking too much. I know that.

Im asking for a little change to balance the game. A game of Offense/Defense are at equal levels.

Its ok if someone shoots at this % if they are wide open. But contested should be rewarded atleast once in a while.

And don't question me if I dont know how to play. I play with shot contest on always. 40 Defensive assist. Don't hold turbo and press L2 only when a ballhandler comes in contact with my player. I know what animation is contested and whats not. All im asking is for defense to be more effective.

Shot contest "always" is lazy defense. I pray that option is removed in 2k 16. You aren't contesting anything its all CPU doing the defense for you

[Shady Mike]

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#ReturnToPatch3

[HowDareI]

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Yea I honestly don't understand the reasoning with the patch.

The one they put out before, really cut down on a lot of bs I saw in Park and in Rec.
Zig zags didn't work as much because shots were easier to contest, less posters, better defense overall. There was still problems but for the most part, and a lot of people on here seemed to agree, it made the game play great.

So they put out this new one and turn everyone in the park into prime Reggie Miller. Good job. I have no urge to play online at all anymore.

It's almost impossible to play more than a game or two without encountering a squad of zig zagging, moving screen setting 3 point spammers. It's really becoming a complete joke.
(Again, like OP said, no one expects real basketball at this point but come on we're not playing NBA Jam)

They "remedy" the situation by decreasing everyone's attributes, but news flash, My Players' stats can't be changed.
Taking a guy from a 90 mid to a 75 means nothing when everyone online in Park/Rec still has 90 ratings.

This patch makes bad players look good. That's my main problem. How can a "sim" game reward fake basketball at all?

Guys driving in full speed, stopping on a dime, shooting a (apparently not) contested mid range/3 point shot and hitting it easily. Rinse and repeat all game. Somehow it just keeps working.
And I been playing 2K for well over 10 years, I know how to play defense lol

My favorite's when someone's trying to go baseline and you play them perfectly, yet they pull up for a jumper when they mean to get a layup or dunk and still hit it....like really tho??

Like was the patch because casuals complained about the game being too hard? That's what it feels like.

[nyccc]

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Shot contest "always" is lazy defense. I pray that option is removed in 2k 16. You aren't contesting anything its all CPU doing the defense for you

I didnt clarify but just because I have it on "always" doesn't mean I dont press Triangle to contest. I know how to play defense in this game.

And as long as its an option in this game Im going to put it on. If they take it out next year and improve the physics and animations and take it then its just another to master for next years game. It works for me in defending some shots so Im not gonna leave it on.

2k needs to stop adding 1000+ new offensive animations and focus on balancing offense/defense to 50/50.

Depending on the situation Ill leave the "always" option as a last minute resort to get some type of contest.

What I considered contested shot is when I jump right with the guy and he flails a little bit. This animation is similar to the animation you see when a player is trying to get deadeye in MC. This animation doesn't occur as much as it should. Pretty sure about 70% of the community isn't the greatest defender so Im not asking to increase this. Im asking is to reward people who have been fans and consistent consumers of this series. The defense sliding hasn't changed much since 2k11. Its the similar if not the same L2/LT sliding defensive assist settings, block/steal concepts for the last couple of years.

Yes I understand people have 95+ jumpshot but most(including myself) have 95+ or maxed defensive ratings.Along with "Perimeter Lockdown Defender" Shouldn't this balance the game?

Just increase the frequency and reward good defense. This will separate the good players from the decent. Cause from what this game is showing right now, everyone shoots BETTER than Stephen Curry.

Those lame and corny cheese side to side moves, the hesitation 3 with crossover 16 dribble left-right, the step back in corner will all be atleast POSSIBLE to defend.

Another point i forgot to put in OP.

CLOSE RANGE is another cheese. Guarentee 90% shots go in contested or not

[joosegoose]

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#ReturnToPatch3

If only the game was available on GOG, then we could just do this:

[itrey25]

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Thats why I'm going back to live next year, because there getting closer and closer, they will sneak right on the heels of 2k, they have several components to there that is way better than 2k, such as the net and player movement, lots of other stuff, the way 2k did us(gamers) this year is just sad, we cant get certain shoes because of idk what, which is stupid as f*** but hey I guess when you start making so much money of off the same material, why not keep the same concept year in and year out

[KehliahoMauiFootball]

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contested = miss
wide open = make
this ain't rocket science 2k lol
if that one ingredient to balance the gameplay is missing, all the fancy animations in the world don't mean anything.

[thedream2k16]

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contested = miss
wide open = make
this ain't rocket science 2k lol
if that one ingredient to balance the gameplay is missing, all the fancy animations in the world don't mean anything.

Can't miss all contested shots with certain players like KD and being wide open isnt a auto make.

[nickthemajin]

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contested = miss
wide open = make
this ain't rocket science 2k lol
if that one ingredient to balance the gameplay is missing, all the fancy animations in the world don't mean anything.

Good thing you aren't the one coding the game. Players don't miss every contested shot and players don't hit every open shot.

[ItsJustaGame]

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Way too many shots go in now.. Good defense or not, a good shooter will hit. What probably bothers me the most though is getting "Good Shot Defense" and watching the ball through nothing but net from behind the arc.

It's also crazy annoying that you nearly block a shooter from his front-left or front-right but because you aren't squared up in front of him completely the AI treats it like you aren't even there. And once again, swish.

Sometimes it's fun having a shoot out game, but now every game is a shoot out with a few drives leading to fouls. Smh