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Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett Set to Join the Broadcast Booth in NBA 2K18 - Trailer
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08-29-2017, 11:41 AM | #153 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett Set to Join the Broadcast Booth in NBA 2K18 - Trail
I'm fully support this. Just to highlight that offline players like me can still have the contested shot going in 2K17, just a matter of tuning the sliders. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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08-29-2017, 11:42 AM | #154 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett Set to Join the Broadcast Booth in NBA 2K18 - Trail
First bulls clip is incidental good coverage, however the C cheats too far in and gets stuck/collides with his own PG. Luckily the other guy wasn't a threat from range, he was wide open on the defensive miscue. Second one is poor help, again 1 pass away, which the user ignored. Again they were leaving Rose wide at 3, or a 2 step pull up. This is poor defensive rotations. I hope none of that is in 18 That being said, dirk post up in warriors clip is done well, and the double comes from steph who isn't one pass away. That's solid.
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08-29-2017, 03:55 PM | #155 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett Set to Join the Broadcast Booth in NBA 2K18 - Trail
And obviously, we'll all have to wait and see the retail version of 2k18 to really make a judgement, but simply based off the trailer, 2k14 overall concept of help defense is better executed. Of course some of it was over extended but where, when, and how the help comes is not wrong and is perfectly fine. Yes, they could adjust the distance the helper defense cheats, but they're all perfectly fine because the idea is that they are still all with arm's reach to cover the outside shot and the "cheating help" looks way better than the 2k18 clips where everyone is basically hugging their assignment and provides no help defense. There is practically no help in the 2k18 clips (except for the irving driving the paint, that looked good). Joel Embiid in the iso post and Irving in the isolation in 2k18 didn't look good. Defenders leaving the entire paint open. 2k14 shows much better team defense concept. The first clip, Dirks turns towards the baseline, has already committed to the fad away post shot. Bogut cheats to help. Klay clamps the paint to box out Bogut's man, leaving the perimeter shooter open is perfectly fine because Dirk is in position to shoot and has shot the ball. Klay still would have been able to recover if needed. Sure they could adjust the initial distance Klay cheats, but the idea and where the help comes from is perfectly fine. The same with the Bulls clips. The cheat helper defense is perfectly fine. Sure, adjust the distance for some of the overextended help, but overall, the help cheat defense is much better overall represented. First clips with Rose isolation drive, the defenders are clamping the paint to take out Rose's drive. Perfectly fine because Rose was fully committed to the drive and was not going to kick it out. If Rose would have kicked it out, defenders were still within reach to contest. How the overall team defense position themselves ready to clamp the paint is so much better than what I saw with the 2k18 Irving isolation setup. Irving isolation setup defense leaves the entire paint open. And knowing 2k18 Irving, if he would have actually driven, that is an easy two points. Cut off the paint first. Second clip. Kirk Hinrich and Dunleavy are 3 point threat as indicated by their 3 next to their name. Rose is not as great of a 3 point threat. More importantly the clock was winding down to zero. Dunleavy needed to make a decision. Dunleavy penetrates and fumbles the ball because of the help defense. Clock expire and no shot was put up. The helper may have overextended a little, but overall nothing wrong with it because of the clock situation. Third clip, George Hill cheats towards Boozer but doesn't fully commit. Next David West in the post backing down a smaller defender. Perimeter defends starts to cheat, and goes over to help. The biggest take away is that 2k14 showed better overall team defense rotations (sure some may have overextended a little (this could be tweaked), but the idea is that the "presence" of help defense and anticipatory cheat defense is there to provide help and clamp the paint including recover to contest the outside shot is all present. I hope 2k18 at least have better anticipatory, cheat, help defense than what we saw with the Joel Embiid isolation post and Kyrie Irving isolation play because both of these had a wide open paint. |
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08-29-2017, 03:56 PM | #156 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett Set to Join the Broadcast Booth in NBA 2K18 - Trail
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08-29-2017, 11:30 PM | #157 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett Set to Join the Broadcast Booth in NBA 2K18 - Trail
I was hoping to see your impression on the defensive AI blog considering your issues to the NBA2k14 clips I've provided. I'm very curious to hear what your take is on those over help rotations in the new 2k18 blog. I would be surprise if you thought everything in the blog defensive rotation was near perfect. |
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