HOF Shooting Badges and Badge Stacking Needs to Gooooo

[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by splashmountain

^stop it. the game is arcadey as can be without calling it nba jams. and the best someone can come up with is "get better". Stop it. You care more about winning than the actual game of basketball being reflected in this game. thats your choice. not mine. I would rather lose 5 games in a row playing good competition playing real basketball than win 5 games in a row playing nba jams lite aka nba 2k20.

What he really meant to say was "Cheese back harder".

[shayellis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Korrupted

If you actually played "Comp" Pro-Am you'd know majority of comp teams don't run 5 out. 5 out hasn't really been popular since 2k18. You may see it here and there but it's not ran as often as it used to be. I'm not sure what all the crying is about. On top of that damn near every comp team has a lock down build on their squad so 5 out basketball is pretty much a dead mission if your lock is somewhat decent. So what if people are shooting limitless 3's and using "OP" builds etc. It's been a problem with the game for a couple years now and 2k hasn't done anything about it. Rather than keep crying and complaining on deaf ears make the proper adjustments and find ways to win. That's what good players do. There are plenty of squads out here not following META's and still winning. Promoting someone to make a shooter and be a cone is a bad idea as well lol. You're not getting many looks against a comp team being a cone and if you don't have a full squad to run with consistently you're no good because these randoms don't have the IQ to facilitate. I'll keep saying it, 2k should just strip badges and archetypes and let everybody be on a level playing field. Even with that set up I'm sure people will run to OS and reddit to cry and complain. SMH

This aint it chief. I would also love to see some of these squads that are "not following the meta and winning"

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Quote: Originally Posted by splashmountain

^stop it. the game is arcadey as can be without calling it nba jams. and the best someone can come up with is "get better". Stop it. You care more about winning than the actual game of basketball being reflected in this game. thats your choice. not mine. I would rather lose 5 games in a row playing good competition playing real basketball than win 5 games in a row playing nba jams lite aka nba 2k20.

That's your decision man. There's players just smart enough to make the proper adjustments whether it's sim or not. This is coming from a Sim guy himself. Half of the time you don't even have to cheese to beat these clueless players in the community. Simple basketball is effective basketball but some don't understand fundamentals or have the skill to do it in a video game. For others basic fundamentals may not work. It ultimately comes down to who you match up with and their play style. I understand the complaints but until 2k does something about you have to work with what you have. Crying isn't going to do much about it. I still believe 2k could make the most Sim game possible and people will still come up with excuses and complain as to why they're getting their asses handed to them on a regular.

Quote: Originally Posted by shayellis

This aint it chief. I would also love to see some of these squads that are "not following the meta and winning"

There's plenty of teams not following META's whether it be park, 3v3 Pro-AM, 5v5, JRC etc. You'll see different line ups and play styles from time to time. Not everybody was running 3 LDD's in Pro-AM last year. Not everybody badge set up is the same this year with every single build. Not every team is running 5 out basketball. You'll notice certain differences if you actually play the game. The biggest trend I see is that OP behind the back and I blame 2k for stripping down the dribbling system this year. If people just want to continue to lose rather than readjust do as you please. Even while winning I don’t agree with the way the game plays but until it’s fixed there’s nothing I can do about it. I know for a fact me and my guys are winning regardless of whatever changes they make. To each its own though.

[shayellis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Korrupted

Seems like you lose a lot because you constantly come to the boards crying about Glass cleaners and such. That's your decision man. There's players just smart enough to make the proper adjustments whether it's sim or not. This is coming from a Sim guy himself. Half of the time you don't even have to cheese to beat these clueless players in the community. Simple basketball is effective basketball but some don't understand fundamentals or have the skill to do it in a video game. For others basic fundamentals may not work. It ultimately comes down to who you match up with and their play style. I understand the complaints but until 2k does something about you have to work with what you have. Crying isn't going to do much about it. I still believe 2k could make the most Sim game possible and people will still come up with excuses and complain as to why they're getting their asses handed to them on a regular. There's plenty of teams not following META's whether it be park, 3v3 Pro-AM, 5v5, JRC etc. You'll see different line ups and play styles from time to time. Not everybody was running 3 LDD's in Pro-AM last year. Not everybody badge set up is the same this year with every single build. Not every team is running 5 out basketball. You'll notice certain differences if you actually play the game. The biggest trend I see is that OP behind the back and I blame 2k for stripping down the dribbling system this year. If people just want to continue to lose rather than readjust do as you please. Even while winning I don’t agree with the way the game plays but until it’s fixed there’s nothing I can do about it. I know for a fact me and my guys are winning regardless of whatever changes they make. To each its own though.

Do you have any footage of these Anti Meta teams?

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Quote: Originally Posted by shayellis

Do you have any footage of these Anti Meta teams?

What game mode you need footage or screenshots of chief? We’re resetting our team tonight due to lack of matchmaking so we should be getting games pretty easily.

Just so I’m aware every team that we play should be running 5 out, hitting contested shots, shooting nothing but limitless 3’s, and all running the same exact line up correct?

[shayellis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Korrupted

What game mode you need footage or screenshots of chief? We’re resetting our team tonight due to lack of matchmaking so we should be getting games pretty easily. Just so I’m aware every team that we play should be running 5 out, hitting contested shots, shooting nothing but limitless 3’s, and all running the same exact line up correct?

I would love to see Pro Am footage of these teams that don't play "meta ball" and win. I think the meta is 4 out 1 in pick and roll down the middle, or sometimes 5 out with the big man shooting 3s, two men camping in the corners, players shooting a bunch of 3s. Point guard spamming moves around a pick. Teams have different variations of lineups but the same builds few builds. It's repetitive and corny and that's why people don't watch the 2k league

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Quote: Originally Posted by shayellis

I would love to see Pro Am footage of these teams that don't play "meta ball" and win. I think the meta is 4 out 1 in pick and roll down the middle, or sometimes 5 out with the big man shooting 3s, two men camping in the corners, players shooting a bunch of 3s. Point guard spamming moves around a pick. Teams have different variations of lineups but the same builds few builds. It's repetitive and corny and that's why people don't watch the 2k league Sent from my SM-G955U using Operation Sports mobile app

So it’s not just 5 out basketball like someone previously stated lol. That’s all I was getting at. There’s actually some squads who have designed plays but you don’t come across them often.

This game has been that way since Archetypes got introduced to the game. You can’t just come down the court and say here sharpshooter, cook up. The community wanted archetypes and now that they have them there’s nothing but problems. I find saying you need to play this way to win or you must run a particular lineup to win is crazy. There are other alternatives.

[TheFinalEvent97]

IMO if 2k reduced the speed of the Tier 3 'Momentum' Behind the Back dribble and ditched Green Releases/Shot Timing and used Real FG% you'd have a much wider variety of ways to play at the top tier and be sucessfull.