It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

[lilkobebigmike]

Not this, They cant mess this up, first off I want to thank the 2k dev team for creating the greatest sports game Eva...But Association mode is the one thing that they had 2 get right.

Im sure you guys remember Live 10( really fun game, great Nba Gameplay) Horrible Association mode(Franchise mode) Made the game totally unplayable for me...You would get scores like 156-124 one game, then the very next game the score would be 66-59, literally WTH is that.

Now people are saying that the home court advantge, and team morale, and trade logic is completely torn. This is a Panic Button type issue 4 me. I haven't personally played Association mode yet but if what people is saying is true then lord help me.

[erickonasis]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

EDIT...apologies

[Gosens6]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Sorry to say it man, but until they fix it, it is broken.

Home court advantage, particularly in the playoffs is just ridiculous. Home teams will win by a margin of by like 30 points almost all the time.

In 20 different sims iv'e done, one sweep has occured, one. Most of the time series go to game 7, and whoever has the home court advantage does usually win.

And it's not that trade logic is messed up, it's just after year three, you'll be lucky to see 2 trades a year.

I believe the Sim logic is the worst part. It makes the playoffs so predictable it's not even funny.

You will notice it during the regular season too. At the end of the year look at how many games teams lost on the road. They really need to fix the sim logic, badly.

They touted association as being so great this year, and because of these 2-3 problems, it's broken.

[lilkobebigmike]

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Oh man I Live 4 Association mode, I don't wanna contol all 30 teams just 2 make it feel realistic

[Birdman]

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I'm sorry but these threads are dumb...there absolutely nothing wrong with association mode been playing it for over a week now

I'm sorry but this reply is dumb. Issues like these aren't discovered by playing a week, unless you play an entire season in a week than you can have a clue. These issues are discovered by people who run test-sims.

[lilkobebigmike]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

I'm sorry but these threads are dumb...there absolutely nothing wrong with association mode been playing it for over a week now

You've been playing 4 a week but how far have u gotten in ur Association

[erickonasis]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

I'm sorry but this reply is dumb. Issues like these aren't discovered by playing a week, unless you play an entire season in a week than you can have a clue. These issues are discovered by people who run test-sims.

My fault...the association is brken for people who sim every game and dpnt actually play...i got it...My apologies to the TC

[pdandy]

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To be fair to 2k, I was able to have an association where there are consistently 5-8 trades per year not counting off-season. I also see free agents being signed during the season. Still a smal amount of trades but at least there is some activity. However more often than not, I get the same state that Gosen mentioned: 0-2 trades within the season, 0 free agents signed within the season.

Tack on the player role changes that happen when players get badly injured which destroys morale + the ability to field super-teams by year 5 or 6.

I do consider this broken and I feel that 2k10's association out of the box is better than 2k11's association which is sad considering how much effort they put into 2k11.

[Birdman]

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@ OP: team morale is just a bad feature. Chemnistry, roles, it's broken, but at least you can turn it off. Seriously, Matt Barnes will become depressed for playing 10 minutes per game probably.. when he's just ring-chasing. Just an example because I don't have the game yet but that's what happened it 2k10, I never turned it on.

The trading and incredulously strong home court advantage are big deals though.

[erickonasis]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

@ OP: team morale is just a bad feature. Chemnistry, roles, it's broken, but at least you can turn it off. Seriously, Matt Barnes will become depressed for playing 10 minutes per game probably.. when he's just ring-chasing. Just an example because I don't have the game yet but that's what happened it 2k10, I never turned it on.

The trading and incredulously strong home court advantage are big deals though.

Now this i can totally understand...i hate sacrificing other guys minutes just to make the players morale go up....I can totally agree with this..Unless they are starting or just a plain scrub it seems like the bench players morale worsens even when you give them PT

[Birdman]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

My fault...the association is brken for people who sim every game and dpnt actually play...i got it...My apologies to the TC

Yes you're on a roll, two dumb posts in a row.

People do it to test, seriously..

[lilkobebigmike]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Yea I noticed last year when I played my last franchise I had team morale and chemistry turned off, I got Better stats but Player Ratings just kept on climbing I had guys that shouldn't have been ovr 90s and such because they were always happy lol...But I guess thats better than angry players

[Gosens6]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

@ OP: team morale is just a bad feature. Chemnistry, roles, it's broken, but at least you can turn it off. Seriously, Matt Barnes will become depressed for playing 10 minutes per game probably.. when he's just ring-chasing. Just an example because I don't have the game yet but that's what happened it 2k10, I never turned it on.

The trading and incredulously strong home court advantage are big deals though.

Iv'e always turned off player morale, it becomes ridiculous when players who don't mind coming off the bench IRL, or no they're scrubs, or no they're just with a team to get a ring get upset because they're not getting minutes, or because they've become injured and can't play.

But like I said, the HCA and trades thing is really out of hand.

[lilkobebigmike]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

My fault...the association is brken for people who sim every game and dpnt actually play...i got it...My apologies to the TC

The ability to Sim games in Association is what makes it so good...no one plays a full 82 game schedule

[pdandy]

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Yea I noticed last year when I played my last franchise I had team morale and chemistry turned off, I got Better stats but Player Ratings just kept on climbing I had guys that shouldn't have been ovr 90s and such because they were always happy lol...But I guess thats better than angry players

Yeah the fast growth doesn't change. That's why by year 5 or 6 there are elite players who have to settle for the MLE. So many players become superstars in this game. It's a little ridiculous.