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Old 09-09-2011, 11:42 AM   #1
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OS Legends Roster - based on Comm. roster - Updated w/ Correct Tendencies

THIS ROSTER IS POST PATCH AND TENDENCIES ARE CORRECT
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Good day OS,

This roster is the OS Legends 360 OD Roster that I and several of us have been working on for the past month or so. It was based on a late Community Roster and then taken from there.

Features:
  • All players Speed and Accel re-rated to accurately reflect incoming freshman speeds.
  • Top freshman re edited for more accurate ratings.
  • Top 50 or so players accessories edited.
  • Bama, South Carolina, Auburn completely accessorized.
  • Various players accessorized.
  • Transfers updated.
  • Coaches completetly redone using Herbinators spread sheet, modified slightly, All Coordinators zeroed out, unless they are a 'big' name coordinator (Weis, Kirby Smart, Kiffin, etc) Then they were given either 15 (Weis, Smart, Malzahn) or 10 (Kiffin) or 5 (Norm Chow). https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=0&output=html

Parts still be touched upon:
  • Depth Charts are not 100% accurate, but they are pretty good throughout. If there is a major difference than I would probably update it.

Known things that probably won't be touched upon as they are that big of a deal:
  • South Carolina accessories are not 'realistic' as it was meant for our OD and so they are accessorized to my liking.
  • Accessories for non-top schools
  • Depth Charts will never be 100%as they can probably never get that way.
  • Sure there are probably players missing and all, but it really is not that big of a deal if you don't have a 2* freshman, if you want him, create him, that simple.

Things I will NOT do:
  • Constantly update depth charts
  • Make minor rating changes
  • Create pretty useless players


THIS ROSTER IS POST PATCH AND TENDENCIES ARE CORRECT
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DO NOT ASK ME TO MAKE CHANGES TO RATINGS, THE OVERALLS DO NOT MATTER. WE DID NOT TOUCH ALL OF THE RATINGS, WE DID SPEED AND ACCEL EDITS FOR ALL PLAYERS.

IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT CORRECT (AT ALL) FEEL FREE TO POST CORRECTIONS IN A NICE, CLEAN LOOKING POST AND I MAY UPDATE THE FILE.


YES THIS THREAD IS A DICTATORSHIP AND I AM THE DICTATOR.




SLIDERS TO GO WITH THESE ROSTERS SO FAR

I've been working them hard the past few days...

All American
8 or 9 minutes
Slow
50 TH

Reasoning behind my sliders: Trenches win the game, period. Also go check out the GMS Roster Edit thread.

Good O-Lines will give 4-5 seconds, bad ones 3-4 seconds, blitzes 2-3 seconds. Obviously counters for this are; extra blockers and quick passes.

Also since we re-rated all speeds and accels, threshold at 50.

I believe the sliders are used for 'global' editing, therefore if you lower a slider it lowers everyone the same (on AA), recreating the 'editing' of everyone. Now granted we don't fully know what they do, but by assuming that NCAA and Madden share the same 'engine/sliders' you can then take that NCAA sliders are a simpler version of Maddens.

So with that, I look to not go above 50 if possible as it starts to 'inflate' players ratings, negating the difference between good and bad players. How? Well the game can only rate players so high (99). Without knowing how much the slider changes ratings and with every slider seemingly having a different 'adjustment rate', my thought is to keep the sliders as close to the ratings (50) as possible without going too far in any direction (which would create a bottoming/topping out of ratings).

We know that the rosters are 'over inflated' across the board in almost all attributes, so therefore sliders would need to go down in order to lower all players in the needed areas.





QBA 40/65 (Lowers HUM a tad, you still get excellent 5-15 yard passes, deep balls with a low ACC QB will result in overthrows, unless you manually use the LS to aim the pass. CPU is boosted to get rid of the 'floating' pass. At 65, it does not create Robo QB with all QBs, Denard went 9/19 against me last time I played. Now Luck may go off on you, but that is realistic.)

PBK 50/55 (Let the ratings play out for the HUM and give the CPU an ever so slight boost due to the dumb CPU screen calls)

WRC 50/50 (Again, let the ratings play out, 2-5 drops a game, is what I see)

RBA 50/55 (HUM default, CPU boosted ever so slightly to give them a POP with moves and BCV, remember RBA effects all players when they get the ball... once a WR catches the ball RBA will kick in to affect them as well)

RBK 35/65
(HUM lowered to harden the running game, you need to use extra blockers, weak side attacks and generally switch up play calling. The CPU does adjust, boosted the CPU run blocking, obvious)



PCV 45/45 (Lowered HUM and CPU as DBs are overrated in MCV and ZCV)

PR 35/40 (HUM lowered as controlling DL is way too easy, the CPU HUM will still create pressure if you control a LB or Safety. CPU PR lowered as well, just too many sacks overall.)

INT 40/40 (HUM and CPU lowered, DBs play defense because they usually cannot catch that well. With this slightly lowered, you still see INTs if you make a dumb pass, trust me, this also helps get rid of the warp over... though it still happens a bit. This is a slider that needs 1 point adjustments.)

RDF 35/55 (HUM lowered to give CPU better running lanes. CPU gets a slight boost.)

TKL 35/35 (NCAA is full of arm tackles and poor angles. With HUM and CPU lowered by 15 it gives a fair amount of Break Tackles without being over board. Also this helps in lowering Play Recognition, Pursuit, Tackle and Hit Power... all things that are over rated on the rosters.)

FGP 45/40
FGA 30/40
PPW 30/45
PAC 50/50
KOF 50/50



Sub In Out
QB 50/55
RB 80/81
WR 80/85
FB,TE 80/85
OL 50/55

DT 89/90
DE 89/90
LB 80/81
CB 70/71
S 70/71








Simming results so far.

Heisman: T. Rich (221car - 1400yds, 14tds - 31rec - 422yds, 5tds)
2nd: Wesley (TCU)
3rd: Weeden (OkSt)

NCG: TCU over Oklahoma St, 28-27

Final Standings (Coaches):
TCU 12-1
Boise 12-1 (Loss TCU 27-24 Wk9)
Ole Miss 13-1 (Loss Ark 27-20 Wk7)
OkSt 11-2 (Loss @ Mizz 36-22 Wk7)
Mich St 10-3 (Loss @ ND 30-23 Wk3, Loss Mich 27-13 Wk6, Loss @ Neb 20-17 Wk8)
Okla 10-3
ND 11-2
Mizz 9-4
FSU 11-3
Wisc 11-3

All Americans:
QB: Moore (Boise)
HB: Richardson (Bama), Bolden (Ole Miss)
WR: Pollard (Haw), Blackmon (OkSt)
TE: Efaw (Boise)
OL: Lonegran (LSU), Smith (Miss St), McCray (UCF), Massie (Ole Miss), Beno (GT)
DE: Massaquoi (Troy), Meredith (Neb)
DT: Hamilton (Mizz), Crick (Neb)
OLB: Fleming (ND), Kight (Ole Miss)
MLB: Marry (Ole Miss)
DB: Dennard (Neb), Adams (Mich St)
FS: Jackson (Ole Miss)
SS: Garvin (WVU)
RET: Reid (FSU)

Awards:
Maxwell: Weeden (OkSt) 254-454, 3568yds, 28td-9int, 159 car, 453yds, 7tds
Walter: Bolden (Ole Miss) 257car, 1543yds, 15tds
Bednarik: Green (NMSU) 14Tkls, TFL, 24atk, FF, td
Nagurski: Fisher (Neb) 24tkls, 20tfl, 30atk, 8sks, 2ff, 2tds
Obrien: Moore (Boise) 260-358, 3721yds, 43td-3int
Walker: Bolden (Ole Miss) 257car, 1543yds, 15tds
Biletnikoff: Blackmon (OkSt) 86rec, 1532yds, 13tds
Mackey: Reliford (FSU) 54rec, 884yds, 9tds
Outland: Beno (GT) 51 pancakes, 3sks
Rimington: Lonergan (LSU) 32 pancakes, 3sks
Lombardi: Meredith (Neb) 41tkl, 26tfl, 26atk, 11sks, ff, int
Best LB: Hodges (PSU) 37tkl, 13tfl, 45atk, 3sks, 4ff, int
Thorpe: Adams (MSU) 21tkl, 16deflects, 5tfl, 29atk, sk, 3ff, td
RET: Benjamin (MIA) 843kr, 401pr, 4tds

Coach Progression: (NOTE: THIS WAS TAKEN BEFORE THE END OF SEASON WAS OVER, COACHES WILL CHANGE ACCORDINGLY BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT SEASON)
Coaches ratings (At beginning of season) here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=0&output=html

B:
TCU (100% Job Sec)

C:
Ole Miss (100% Job Sec)
Boise (78% Job Sec)

D+:
Okla (62%)
Bama (61%)
South Carolina (58%)
PSU (57%)
Fresno (94%)

All other team coaches rated D

Teams at very bottom of Job Security (again, all rated D):
UAB, E Mich, BG (0%)
ULL, Akron (20%)
UTEP (21%)
Memphis (24%)
Utah St (36%)
NMSU, Ark St, FAU (40%)
Rice (43%)
USC (48%)

the rest of the teams make up 50%+ Job Security... the overall look of the CC was very nice with the coaches prestiges the way there were. The crap teams mentioned above all looked for new coaches, USC stuck with Kiffin. Most teams either re-signed their coach or did nothing.

At beginning of season two, coaches look like this: TCU B+, Ole Miss C+, Boise C, (Okla, Fresno, Michigan, Mizz D+), Ds (Oregon, Mich St, W Mich, Louisville, Bama, NW, ND, UCLA, VT, Az St, BC, Baylor, Iowa (in order from top to bottom))


Player progression: Looked after training results and can only see my team. What I noticed from having Steve Spurrier the ratings went up 3-5 points (OVR) on average, few 1-2s, only one +6 (punter). Don't think it was all that 'bad'.

So with that, you'd be looking at a 13-20 point overall increase over a players 4 years. Now as long as top freshman come in at around 70-78 than it looks good for the them, and as long as it the freshman ratings trickle down to the lower 'tier' players than I don't see a "major" problem with the progression.

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does this have the lower coach prestige edits?
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does this have the lower coach prestige edits?
yes, we started with the community roster after they already did that..

I am going to change them back (half way) I think... I need to do some testing first though.

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i like it. i'll definitely check these out after you test as i don't care about the accessories all that much.
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i like it. i'll definitely check these out after you test as i don't care about the accessories all that much.
Yeah neither do we that much. Since we were waiting for the patch, I started going down through the best players and doing them.
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Iowa Suggestions (Use what you'd like).

Injuries (Leave them in the game but this explains depth/position/player changes)
HB Mikail McCall: Broken ankle vs Tenn Tech. Out for season.
FB Brad Rodger: Heart condition. Status unknown.
LG Nolan MacMillian: Sports hernia. Out for several months.
ROLB Shane DiBona: Achillies injury. Out for season.

Players Changes
FB Brad Rodgers to FB Matt Myers. Rodgers has a heart condition and hasn't practiced all season. It's up in the air if he will ever play this season or ever. Myers is the starting FB now.
http://iowa.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=425592

WR Jordan Cotton to WR Jacob Hillyer. Cotton is buried behind true freshman and probably won't play much unless people get hurt. Hillyer has drawn praise and will see action this season.
http://iowa.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=435939

Position Changes
HB Damon Bullock to WR. Might want his catching and WR ratings to reflect other freshman WR's. He played slot WR against Tenn Tech. 6th string.

LT Matt Tobin to LG. Starts there.

RE Joe Forgey to LE. Backs up Binns.

DT Steve Bigach to RE. Backs up Daniel.

LE Joe Gaglione to DT. 4th string.

SS Tom Donatell to LOLB. Backs up Nielson.

LOLB Christian Kirksey to ROLB. Starts there.

CB Jordan Bernstine to SS. Backs up Sleeper.

Depth Chart Changes Not Mentioned Above
QB AJ Derby to #2
QB John Weinke to #3

HB Mikail McCall to #3.
HB DeAndre Johnson to #4

LT Andre Donnal to #2

DT Thomas Nardo to #3

FS Micah Hyde to #4 CB

KR Bernstein, Davis

PR Hyde, McNut
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Iowa Suggestions (Use what you'd like).

Injuries (Leave them in the game but this explains depth/position/player changes)
HB Mikail McCall: Broken ankle vs Tenn Tech. Out for season.
FB Brad Rodger: Heart condition. Status unknown.
LG Nolan MacMillian: Sports hernia. Out for several months.
ROLB Shane DiBona: Achillies injury. Out for season.

Players Changes
FB Brad Rodgers to FB Matt Myers. Rodgers has a heart condition and hasn't practiced all season. It's up in the air if he will ever play this season or ever. Myers is the starting FB now.
http://iowa.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=425592

WR Jordan Cotton to WR Jacob Hillyer. Cotton is buried behind true freshman and probably won't play much unless people get hurt. Hillyer has drawn praise and will see action this season.
http://iowa.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=435939

Position Changes
HB Damon Bullock to WR. Might want his catching and WR ratings to reflect other freshman WR's. He played slot WR against Tenn Tech. 6th string.

LT Matt Tobin to LG. Starts there.

RE Joe Forgey to LE. Backs up Binns.

DT Steve Bigach to RE. Backs up Daniel.

LE Joe Gaglione to DT. 4th string.

SS Tom Donatell to LOLB. Backs up Nielson.

LOLB Christian Kirksey to ROLB. Starts there.

CB Jordan Bernstine to SS. Backs up Sleeper.

Depth Chart Changes Not Mentioned Above
QB AJ Derby to #2
QB John Weinke to #3

HB Mikail McCall to #3.
HB DeAndre Johnson to #4

LT Andre Donnal to #2

DT Thomas Nardo to #3

FS Micah Hyde to #4 CB

KR Bernstein, Davis

PR Hyde, McNut
Thanks for that.

Also all HC have been boosted 10 points to reflect the new coach progression model.

Will be looking into O and D coordinators as well.
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Signed up just to say thanks. Great work on the roster to all who pitched in! One thing I noticed for Iowa though, TE #85 should be ZACH Derby. You've got him as A J, his brother who plays quarterback.
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