So at the end of the day, Backbreaker is still broken.

[veritas1]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

I didn't say it will be broken at release. I said it's status as of RIGHT NOW is: BROKEN. It does not work. Period. Every review comes to this same conclusion. This game will not be out for at least another year. And even then it will be a stripped down version of a football game with very little in the way of features.

And you know this.......how? From reading E3 previews? give me a break lol

[t11]

Quote: Originally Posted by Exonerated

3 years goin on 4 is a long time

Ummm... 2009 - 2007 = 2? Right? lol. So its two years going on 3.

The fact this game has a franchise feature shows that it is not a "watered down" football game. The devs are actually taking a lot of feedback from the community about the fundementals of football. The X's and O's. With the way this animation engine works, they don't need to pitch "Branching Animation Tech" or "9 man gang tackles". It inheritly will have this things. This game will not topple Madden, but it will show that Madden has really been doggin it for 4 years.

[deaduck]

You know what arguing about Backbreaker the game is like?

Arguing if Bigfoot is a good dancer.

We haven't even SEEN Bigfoot, let alone him doing a jig, so how can we argue about it with so much passion and authority?

[t11]

If you were not referring to me...

Then disregard the following. lol

If you were referring to me...

I actually know quite a bit about how morpheme and euphoria work, and that is basically all I was talking about. On the BB forum, there a thread about fundamentals where the devs said they were gonna use our ideas and actually asked us for help. And the destructoid preview is where I got franchise from. So everything I said is backed up and the last sentance is just my opinion.

[deaduck]

Quote: Originally Posted by t11

If you were not referring to me... Then disregard the following. lol If you were referring to me...

I was referring to ALL of us (because I'm guilty of it as well).

How we can spend this much effort justifying opinions about something NONE of us has seen/played is lunacy.

You would think we were a group of oracles and soothsayers for the weight we attach to statements based on...next to nothing.

Having an opinion is one thing, guessing an opinion is goofy.

[t11]

Quote: Originally Posted by deaduck

I was referring to ALL of us (because I'm guilty of it as well). How we can spend this much effort justifying opinions about something NONE of us has seen/played is lunacy. You would think we were a group of oracles and soothsayers for the weight we attach to statements based on...next to nothing. Having an opinion is one thing, guessing an opinion is goofy.

The real reason people talk with such athority, is we all want this new game to succeed and compete with Madden (well maybe not the last part). we all want this game to be fun a hell.

[t11]

Quote: Originally Posted by deaduck

I was referring to ALL of us (because I'm guilty of it as well). How we can spend this much effort justifying opinions about something NONE of us has seen/played is lunacy. You would think we were a group of oracles and soothsayers for the weight we attach to statements based on...next to nothing. Having an opinion is one thing, guessing an opinion is goofy.

The real reason people talk with such athority, is we all want this new game to succeed and compete with Madden (well maybe not the last part). we all want this game to be fun as hell.

[jyoung]

This thread should be locked or deleted considering how little we've seen and know about the game.

To declare a game "broken" at this stage of development is just ridiculous.