MLB Off-Topic

[Speedy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chip Douglass

Like most NL fans, I used to be viscerally opposed to the DH, but I'm all for adopting it now. The poster boy for good pitcher hitting is Bumgarner, but his career 51 wRC+ would make him one of the worst hitters in baseball history if he were a position player. I don't think watching Drew Butera or Tim Federowicz hit is that interesting tbh...and that's what Bumgarner basically is as a hitter. If Bumgarner still wants to hit, he could always convince Bochy to let him pinch hit.

My thoughts exactly.

The move of Houston to the AL and then the constant interleague schedule really diluted the NL style of play to me. The only thing that we wouldn't see nearly as often is double switches but pinch runners, pinch hitters are still common with DH rules.

It's simply EVIDENT how much easier AL pitchers are able to work around a lineup in NL parks than NL pitchers doing the same in AL parks...not having that constant out for the NL starter is a huge difference.

The AL was 167-133 in 2015, 165-135 in 2016 and 160-140 in 2017.

Ball don't lie.

[Jr.]

You can't really compare 1 to 1 a pitcher's batting stats to a hitter. They get maybe 100 ABs in a season and never more than 8 in a week. Hitting is more about timing than anything, and if you're not seeing pitches consistently, you're never going to have good numbers.

I'd like to see Bumgarner get 500 ABs and see what he can do. I bet he could push for 20+ HRs and hit in the mid .200s. Not saying that's great, but it's not awful either.

[Mabster]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

You guys really want to remove Carl Edwards Jr's ability to walk Yu Darvish on 4 pitches with the bases loaded? That AB wasn't interesting? Hmm. I would rather make AL pitchers bat than adopt the DH in the NL. Enough with this junior circuit poppycock.

We removed throwing intentional walks didn't we?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mabster

We removed throwing intentional walks didn't we?

I knew it was your fault. Just wait until Blzer finds out.

[TheMatrix31]

The logic behind "designated hitter' has never made sense to me. Therefore, I think the designated hitter is dumb.

[Chip Douglass]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sportsforever

Because the pitcher plays the field, he's a part of the lineup, he should have to bat? You have your reasons for liking the DH...I happen to like the pitcher batting. Leave it as is it is...that way we both get to watch what we like.

Tom Brady plays the field and is part of the lineup. No one wants to see this guy play free safety though.

Honestly, I'm not vexed about this either way. If the NL wants to keep pitcher hitting, so be it. I'm an NL fan and will still watch, but it just seems like an anachronism to me, much like the 19 yard extra point in the NFL. I'd much rather watch professional hitters in all 9 slots in the batting order than Rich Hill flail at balls in the dirt and make a fool out of himself or Yu Darvish take 3 fastballs down the middle and walk back to the dugout. Sure, there's a bit more strategy in the NL game, but unless you're overly fazed by double-switches or something, it's highly overrated and not worth the hassle of watching bad hitting.

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chip Douglass

Tom Brady plays the field and is part of the lineup. No one wants to see this guy play free safety.

Comparing apples and oranges. Football and baseball are two completely different sports with two different roster concepts.

Baseball is about having players who can hit and play defense. If the pitcher is on the field then he should have to hit.

I mean why not have designated fielders for guys like Schwarber who can hit but doesn't necessarily fit in the field?

The DH is the same concept


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[Qdiddy]

I love reading this debate on the DH, this is what makes baseball so great. Me personally I see the points on both sides. I’m a yankees fan so AL biased to a point but I like the strategy that’s in play when you have to decide when down by a run or scoreless in a big game late do I PH for this hot pitcher or keep him in. I wouldn’t mind either way MLB decides moving forward, I just know I hold my breath every time a Yankee pitcher steps to the plate.


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