NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

See my earlier post to Bull Market. Again, you can literally say that about every trade ever made and it still doesn't excuse that Orlando got raped on their end. How can you say you wanna rebuild or follow the OKC Model(which is another thing I'm starting to take an issue with) but yet you took on additional contracts AND the picks you got from those teams are not only their worst picks but they're also protected and you're not getting them for another 2 years. And I'm one of the biggest optimists on here in regards to trades but it don't take a genius to see that they could've gotten a better package than what THEY got for him.

The Laker pick is the worst of the worst. You don't see that pick until 2017. No way the Lakers haven't reloaded that squad by then.

[Kashanova]

The Pick and Roll talk is silly. Yeah they'll run a few but do you think Kobe is going to just sit there and watch while Nash PnRs with Howard and Pau? I don't think so. Kobe will disrupt the offense just like he's always have with out Phil Jackson

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Howard had all the leverage, not to mention a bad back. Whos going to give up a lot for a non-committal C with a bad back, who said himself, ”he still cant run”.

Is this a trick question?

You had two teams(one of them I know for a fact)who were willing to give them whatever they wanted. The problem for one of those teams is that the Magic never wanted to deal with them from the start.

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And I think people are taking the "OKC way" out of context. OKC did a fine job of scouting and evaluating players. Harden, West and Durant (too skinny) werent sure things. Each and everyone of those guys had negatives about them. I even remember people here saying Harden wasnt going to be good on draft day.

My beef with this is that people get too carried with using the "OKC Way"(Which really isn't "their" way)is that people think they're the only team in the history of the NBA(part of this I blame on the Media since they force feed it down people's throats) that has gone the draft and develop route when it's not the case at all. They may have achieved success faster than other teams but that does not mean they're the first team to ever employ this strategy and have it work(which even right now it's still in the air because they have nothing to show for it in the grand scheme of things).

[Jukeman]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

Is this a trick question? You had two teams(one of them I know for a fact)who were willing to give them whatever they wanted. The problem for one of those teams is that the Magic never wanted to deal with them from the start. My beef with this is that people get too carried with using the "OKC Way"(Which really isn't "their" way)is that people think they're the only team in the history of the NBA(part of this I blame on the Media since they force feed it down people's throats) that has gone the draft and develop route when it's not the case at all. They may have achieved success faster than other teams but that does not mean they're the first team to ever employ this strategy and have it work(which even right now it's still in the air because they have nothing to show for it in the grand scheme of things).

I agree with that.

But isnt the new GM coming from OKC? I can see why OKC was referenced.

[Boltman]

I'm still lmao @ people posing worse case scenarios for the Lakers.

Are they going to be world beaters? Of course not, lets not be silly.

Are they a better team than they were? In my opinion, absolutely they are.

I think some of you spend more time thinking about the Lakers than you do on whatever team it is that you're a fan of. (which I get)

We'll see what happens when the season gets underway. I predict a lot more Laker talk then, that's a given.

Based on a few people's opinions on OS, old *** Lakers combined with Dwight's back pose no threat to the title. Hopefully other teams will be thinking that as well.

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jukeman

Martin is a streaky shooter, he got 17 a game because he's a volume shooter. I rather have Aaron who's younger, shoot better, plays better D and have a good contract if he have a break out year, not to mention he put up 15 last year. Summer league? Yea that is a good measurement for college players who played in a top notch conference. Jones is not skill enough to play 3 and not good in the post to play the 4 nor does he have a jumper to make up for his lack of post game. Lets see if he even average 9 and 5 during the next 2 years in the NBA. Harkless has more upside regardless of summer league. And what made you mention Royce's name? I didnt even mention him. I said half of the guys they were offering are DLeague talent and that holds true (with guys like Lamb, Morris and Jones.) Point is, the trade isn't as terrible as people are making it out to be. I personally would have accepted the Houston deal just for the fact that I am losing Rich, Duhon and Davis. Parson and maybe White (if he could translate his inside/outside game and protect the ball more) would def be in Orl for awhile but everyone else, not so much. Edit- And I think people are taking the "OKC way" out of context. OKC did a fine job of scouting and evaluating players. Harden, West and Durant (too skinny) werent sure things. Each and everyone of those guys had negatives about them. I even remember people here saying Harden wasnt going to be good on draft day. #1 pick or 30th pick, it doesnt matter as you pick the players that you feel fit into what you are trying to do on the court. I have no problem with the the comment especially with the way Orl been drafting for the last decade..

1st Bolded: WHAT? Well, you're going to get shot attempts if you're the best scorer on the team besides Scola and Dragic. And Dragic didn't really come into his own/start until Lowry got injured. McHale then put Lowry in his doghouse (Huh, seems like McHale put people in his doghouse who he didn't get along with....never mind the fact that neither player previously had a problem with coaching before this so....this is probably a McHale problem).

2nd Bolded: Huh? The Summer League is a relatively good indication of whether or not you're capable of holding your own against NBA level players. Terrence AND Lamb have shown they can....While Moe has not. Keep harping on the potential though.

3rd Bolded: So...the guy who struggled in the SUMMER LEAGUE isn't a D-League talent compared to the guy who's putting up solid numbers? Kay.

4th Bolded: Kay. You are really biased if you're calling Jeremy Lamb a D-League talent. You know...despite the fact that he was torching everyone there...







Lamb is a bum tho...

[Jukeman]

Quote: Originally Posted by DukeC

1st Bolded: WHAT? Well, you're going to get shot attempts if you're the best scorer on the team besides Scola and Dragic. And Dragic didn't really come into his own/start until Lowry got injured. McHale then put Lowry in his doghouse (Huh, seems like McHale put people in his doghouse who he didn't get along with....never mind the fact that neither player previously had a problem with coaching before this so....this is probably a McHale problem). 2nd Bolded: Huh? The Summer League is a relatively good indication of whether or not you're capable of holding your own against NBA level players. Terrence AND Lamb have shown they can....While Moe has not. Keep harping on the potential though. 3rd Bolded: So...the guy who struggled in the SUMMER LEAGUE isn't a D-League talent compared to the guy who's putting up solid numbers? Kay. 4th Bolded: Kay. You are really biased if you're calling Jeremy Lamb a D-League talent. You know...despite the fact that he was torching everyone there... Lamb is a bum tho...

You do know summer league is made up of guys who play dleague or guys overseas looking to make a team right?

And yes I still stand by potential. The guys you keep harping about doesnt have a high ceiling. You can bookmark my post for future reference if you want.

K-Mart only put up 17 as the top scorer shooting 41% yea, he's way better than Aaron..

[Bull_Market]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boltman

I'm still lmao @ people posing worse case scenarios for the Lakers. Are they going to be world beaters? Of course not, lets not be silly. Are they a better team than they were? In my opinion, absolutely they are. I think some of you spend more time thinking about the Lakers than you do on whatever team it is that you're a fan of. (which I get) We'll see what happens when the season gets underway. I predict a lot more Laker talk then, that's a given. Based on a few people's opinions on OS, old *** Lakers combined with Dwight's back pose no threat to the title. Hopefully other teams will be thinking that as well.

Worse case scenario is them winning 50-55 games and locking up the #3 seed. The high PNR with Nash/Gasol is going to be fun to watch. Gasol will probably feast as a weakside blocker and rebounder with Howard in town.

Someone eluded to this earlier, how long before Kobe pulls the iso-ball? He will still be the focal point and go to guy as Dwight has the offensive game of raw high school kid and cant make a FT.