Big Ben the 2nd best QB in the league today? LOL

[tripwire]

Quote: Originally Posted by z Revis

Um, there's a ton different. You're telling me that they have the same players now that they had back in the 80's? No. It's not like Big Ben is the only player that is different. Their whole roster is different. And as far as I can remember, Pittsburgh's defense this year is the best defense that I've seen in the entire league, with the exception of the 2000 Ravens, in a long time. But like I said, give that defense to any team and they'd automatically win way more games than they won the year before. And certainly, give the leagues best QB's that defense and they'd most likely have more rings than they have now.... Regardless though, Big Ben is not the 2nd best QB in the league and that's really what this thread was about...

Still waiting

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by z Revis

Um, there's a ton different. You're telling me that they have the same players now that they had back in the 80's? No. It's not like Big Ben is the only player that is different. Their whole roster is different. And as far as I can remember, Pittsburgh's defense this year is the best defense that I've seen in the entire league, with the exception of the 2000 Ravens, in a long time. But like I said, give that defense to any team and they'd automatically win way more games than they won the year before. And certainly, give the leagues best QB's that defense and they'd most likely have more rings than they have now.... Regardless though, Big Ben is not the 2nd best QB in the league and that's really what this thread was about...

you really dance around questions you can't answer.

[tripwire]

Quote: Originally Posted by cutter73

As far as defenses, the Ravens don't have many rings for all their years of dominance on that side of the ball either. Or the Bears. Or the Titans, Eagles and so on.

Don't make factual statements. The Op's agenda might get shattered if you keep doing that.

[z Revis]

Quote: Originally Posted by tripwire

Still waiting

I gave you my answer. That's that.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Exonerated

for the next 96 hours, big ben is the best qb in the history of the NFL. Just wait till next season when the post-superbowl euphoria dies down.

Fixed.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by z Revis

Um, there's a ton different. You're telling me that they have the same players now that they had back in the 80's? No. It's not like Big Ben is the only player that is different. Their whole roster is different. And as far as I can remember, Pittsburgh's defense this year is the best defense that I've seen in the entire league, with the exception of the 2000 Ravens, in a long time. But like I said, give that defense to any team and they'd automatically win way more games than they won the year before. And certainly, give the leagues best QB's that defense and they'd most likely have more rings than they have now.... Regardless though, Big Ben is not the 2nd best QB in the league and that's really what this thread was about...

I definitely understand what you are trying to say but you can't keep playing this "Give the best QB(just say Peyton Manning lol )_______ or _____, he'd have more rings then they have now" card.

Not picking on you either, but just an observation

[z Revis]

Quote: Originally Posted by tripwire

Don't make factual statements. The Op's agenda might get shattered if you keep doing that.

How is that a fact? He mentioned the Bears...their defense isn't even close to as good as Pittsburgh's...and the Titans?

The Ravens are the only defense that is on Pittsburgh's level. In MY OPINION, the Steelers defense is the best defense that I have actually witnessed with my own eyes aside from the Ravens 2000 defense...that's a compliment and you're taking it like I offended you.

[tripwire]

Quote: Originally Posted by z Revis

I gave you my answer. That's that.

Where?

Maybe i missed it between all your ducking routines.

I'll re-post again

Quote:

Before Ben arrived, Pitt had a strong D and running game for eons, yet they had nothing to show for it since 1980. Alot of QB's came and went. What's different now? Explain that for me, will you please. Especially since their running game and oline is now a shell of it's former self.