The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

[SouthernBrick]

Quote: Originally Posted by SportsTop

Big difference is Brady was "just" an ACL. This is neck surgery that has caused players to retire and there's no guarantee of his return. It's strange to think we may have seen Manning take his last snap ever back in January.

Well of course that would be odd to see him go out like that. I'm just referring to if he was just out for the season like Brady.

ESPN ticker just said 2-3 months for Manning.

[xkevin]

This season is over for Manning. He and everyone else needs to accept that.

[TheMatrix31]

I definitely feel weirder without Peyton out compared to Favre being gone. For one, Peyton is actually likeable. Two, Peyton is better than Favre. Three, its so sudden. Four, he's a divisional "rival" so I'm even more familiar with how good he is.

Weird. Super weird.

[Leon Sandcastle]

2-3 Months bye bye playoffs! Hello Andrew Luck?

[TheMatrix31]

From the doc on the Texans board:

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What we know: *We know his 1st two minimally invasive surgeries were posterior cervical discectomies (as the video I posted) *We know that he delayed his 1st surgery of March 2010 for 4 years *We know that he delayed his 2nd (May 23 2011) surgery having had symptoms at least since the very beginning of the year (with some conjecture that he was suffering symptoms since the beginning or middle of the 2010 regular season). *We know that he was expected to be playing football by 6-8 weeks (like after his 1st surgery) and now its been almost 4 months with continued significant problems. *We know that he has now undergone a formal ONE LEVEL anterior cervical fusion with graft. Some general conclusions that could be drawn: *He had this 3rd type of surgery NOT SOLELY because a properly decompressed nerve was not regenerating quickly enough, but because there was continued compression on that nerve despite his previous surgeries. *There have been studies that have shown that the prognosis of successful nerve regeneration is significantly negatively impacted by waiting for >6 months of experiencing compressive symptoms. *Realistically safe return to football is likely to take closer to 6 months (if then) of recovery and rehab rather than a 2 - 3 month period reported. (We will likely see the fans, team and media restart all the chaotic speculation of return in 2 months.) *Since there was this long continued period of symptoms up to this recent surgery, we still don’t know how much and how long his nerve and muscle function will take to return. Although this was a one level fusion which normally carries a very good return to play record, the complicating factors that I have tried to chronicle do not necessarily guarantee that he will return as the Peyton Manning we know, or at all. In other words, a successful decompressive operation may not necessarily translate into a successful functional outcome.....and we haven’t even taken into consideration that there is likely some degeneration already brewing at one or more adjacent disc spaces.............not to mention the more terrible thought of the possibility of surgical complications (not anything that I want to get into, since the present circumstances seem to already be complicated enough.)

[SouthernBrick]

Quote: Originally Posted by MiiiLe HigH

2-3 Months bye bye playoffs! Hello Andrew Luck?

That would probably be the best thing to happen for the Colts long term. The Colts O-line is shaky but, they still have some solid skill position players on both sides of that team. There are some teams that are definitely worse off IMO like the Bengals for example. It's gonna get ugly though for the Colts, short off season, running game probably nonexistent, and then when that happens oh buddy look out.

Collins at least had a running game in Tennessee but, the Colts is a whole other story. Is he gonna be able to carry them without a running game like Manning being forced to throw it over and over? I doubt it.

Edit: And damn.^ Delayed his surgery for 4 years!? I wonder what was going threw his mind at the time.

[da ThRONe]

I don't know about Peyton being "likeable". He is my least favorite player in the NFL. The fact that he's a New Orleans native just goes to show how much I dislike him.

[SportsTop]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't know about Peyton being "likeable". He is my least favorite player in the NFL. The fact that he's a New Orleans native just goes to show how much I dislike him.

More "unlikeable" than James Harrison?

Funny how certain people love one players competitiveness but dislike another.

I see very little difference in on field presence, attitude, and overall competitiveness between Manning and Dan Marino in the 80's and early 90's.