Could Anthony Calvillo have succeeded in the NFL?

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingkilla56

Im not following this line of thinking at all. Why are so many teams still looking for franchise qbs then?

And who are all these NFL ready QB's looking for jobs?

[ubernoob]

Actually the Falcons developed Schaub. He was a pretty highly valued "backup QB" before the Texans traded the couple second rounders they got him for.

Missed bks post. Damn Tapatalk not refreshing. Also I agree that speed is somewhat overrated. Aaron Rodgers isn't "fast" by any means comparatively, but he has excellent vision, instincts and knows when to take off. Still holds on to the ball too long if the protection breaks down but nobody's perfect.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by SPTO

I think the "every team is so desperate" argument is more borne out of the 24/7 news cycle and the over analysis of the game today. Back in the day teams could afford to bring a QB along and let him mature into being a polished QB. Hell, some teams had backups who were of similar to equal quality as their starters! Today, the fans and the scrutiny of media coverage makes grooming a QB more of a luxury than it used to be and teams have to rush guys to the point that they let em go and they become something better somewhere else. I applaud the Bengals for allowing Andy Dalton to develop and the Texans developing Matt Shaub over the years.

Shaub is the anti argument to your post.

The Texans didn't develop him, he was developed in Atlanta.


The Texans wisely got him.

[SPTO]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

In Schaub's case a lot of that developing happened in Atlanta. He got to Houston ready to play.

Yeah brain fart on the Shaub thing but you get my point. Please don't lump me in with Shotgun Styles as I have an old school mentality and while I might agree with a good part of his arguments here and in the other thread I put myself more in the "happy middle". I think that the game has changed to the point that QBs today are given more breaks than QBs in the '70s and the '80s in that the game was a little rougher for them then than it is now.

Make no mistake about it though, finding a truly good QB is a lot harder than it seems. In fact, the CFL hasn't produced a very good CFL type QB in YEARS. Travis Lulay is probably the last very good QB. In fact, I believe there was some interest on the part of some NFL teams though not enough for him to defect.

I think the parity in QB talent has increased but the quality has decreased which makes finding truly exceptional QBs harder to find.

[kehlis]

I promise you, no one would ever lump you with Shotgun Styles.

[Bellsprout]

Why are there so many ****ty to average quarterbacks if this is so easy?

I count about 14 teams who don't have a slam dunk franchise quarterback. Some might need more time to make a complete assessment (Locker, Ponder, Dalton [We might argue about this. I think he's pretty average. Admittedly I don't watch a ton of Bengals, but I'm just going off what I've seen], etc), but that's about the amount of teams I saw who can't be 100% sure about the future at that position.

[ubernoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

I promise you, no one would ever lump you with Shotgun Styles.

He gets his own category that only he can occupy.

[SPTO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dayman

Why are there so many ****ty to average quarterbacks if this is so easy? I count about 14 teams who don't have a slam dunk franchise quarterback. Some might need more time to make a complete assessment (Locker, Ponder, Dalton [We might argue about this. I think he's pretty average. Admittedly I don't watch a ton of Bengals, but I'm just going off what I've seen], etc), but that's about the amount of teams I saw who can't be 100% sure about the future at that position.

Does every team HAVE to have a franchise QB? Let's throw away the '80s because that seemed like an anomalous decade mainly due to the '83 draft. I bet if we focused on the '70s, '80s, and 2000s we'd find that about half the league or more didn't have "franchise" type QBs but guys who were at the very least average to good.

Perhaps i'll undertake such a task but I don't feel like it at this late hour.