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Old 08-16-2018, 05:45 PM   #12913
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Since we're talking about bad feuds, lets not forget about the Brie/Nikki "growing up Bella" feud that was completely pointless
Anything involving those two and wrestling is/was pointless.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:02 PM   #12914
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If we're talking multiple main event matches, with crowds so down on the idea of Reigns as "the guy," and matches being ruined in the process, it's been bad. I don't know about historic. Reigns is a historically bad failed babyface, and WWE is having serious issues with finding ways to put together matches that get him over, for whatever reason. Last time I watched him in a match and thought he looked unique and special was Extreme Rules 2017.

I think the Bayley/Sasha feud/storyline has been as bad. And let's forgot how they more or less screwed the fans with how they booked Styles/Nakamura.
Reigns may be a "failed" babyface but in terms of overall starpower, he's about right where I remember Cena being at the same point in his career.

Granted, I'm a huge Roman fan.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:07 PM   #12915
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Reigns may be a "failed" babyface but in terms of overall starpower, he's about right where I remember Cena being at the same point in his career.

Granted, I'm a huge Roman fan.
Yeah, I think there's some bias in there. Or we just have different opinions of what star power is.

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Old 08-16-2018, 07:34 PM   #12916
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TV ratings and house show business was way higher during Cena's run. Merch sales too. In a lot of ways WWE is still benefiting from all his years on the road and on Raw every week. The PG Cena that bored/annoyed plenty of us is partially the reason WWE has the crossover advertising and huge TV deals it has today.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:04 PM   #12917
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TV ratings and house show business was way higher during Cena's run. Merch sales too. In a lot of ways WWE is still benefiting from all his years on the road and on Raw every week. The PG Cena that bored/annoyed plenty of us is partially the reason WWE has the crossover advertising and huge TV deals it has today.
If we start Cena's run at WM21, Roman's about where or a bit before Cena really started his peak. It's hard to compare TV ratings and such but Roman's social media numbers outpace pretty much everybody else's. His merchandise numbers are often only #2 to Cena.

But you kinda make my point for me. If Cena was eventually such a positive for the company overall, why not continue that with Roman? At times it is painful with Roman but it was really painful with Cena at times as well.
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If we start Cena's run at WM21, Roman's about where or a bit before Cena really started his peak. It's hard to compare TV ratings and such but Roman's social media numbers outpace pretty much everybody else's. His merchandise numbers are often only #2 to Cena.

But you kinda make my point for me. If Cena was eventually such a positive for the company overall, why not continue that with Roman? At times it is painful with Roman but it was really painful with Cena at times as well.
He's going to be the guy regardless of what points any of us try to make. I would just prefer he be more entertaining. We saw in those face-to-face promos who had the mic skills and who didn't. Cena was even more entertaining in his early years.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:51 PM   #12919
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:32 AM   #12920
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WWE announced a major match for the upcoming all Women PPV "Evolution". Raw Women's Champion Alexa Bliss will take on WWE Hall of Famer.... Trish Stratus.

Surprised they didn't go the tag team route, Bliss/Mickie vs Trish/Lita or another partner.

https://www.wwe.com/shows/wweevoluti...-trish-stratus
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