NBA 2k9 is great but will they patch up the morphing?

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by bears5122

Why give the guy a hard time? He is pointing out how atrocious collision detection is. Wouldn't you guys rather have these things brought to light and fixed instead of being a cheerleader for a game? Maybe he goes a bit overboard, but it's a fair claim. It's tough to play defense when players can simply go through your defender. The game would be a lot more challenging if the defensive players weren't invisible.

He doesn't need to "bring it to light." We all see it.

Does it deter from the game? Some may disagree with the answer to that question.

[RubenDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by bears5122

Why give the guy a hard time? He is pointing out how atrocious collision detection is. Wouldn't you guys rather have these things brought to light and fixed instead of being a cheerleader for a game? Maybe he goes a bit overboard, but it's a fair claim. It's tough to play defense when players can simply go through your defender. The game would be a lot more challenging if the defensive players weren't invisible.

look at the statistics. does this happen everytime down court? A team may take 80 shots a game and have 80 possessions. AMong those, there are maybe 5 bad clipping episodes a game.

THis dude needs to have about 75 vids showcasing the GREATNESS that is the collison detection. all were seeing is the bad.. he's in my book

[RubenDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by kaydigi

The clipping issues are serious. There are sometimes when offensive players completely through your defense and score. I'm not worried about elbows clipped through arms, but when you play hard defense just to get clipped through something is wrong.

i agree. but right now, its an occurance that is quite rare. maybe once every 15 or once ever 20 possessions something like this would happen. its always the CPU doing it which has its frustrating aspects.. Should it be there?? of course not. is it as bad as other games?? id say its about the same with others to be honest

[Klocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by RubenDouglas

i agree. but right now, its an occurance that is quite rare. maybe once every 15 or once ever 20 possessions something like this would happen. its always the CPU doing it which has its frustrating aspects.. Should it be there?? of course not. is it as bad as other games?? id say its about the same with others to be honest

exactly.... it used to happen almost every play in some games... it is MUCH better.

It's not a matter that it does happen (that's to be expected for a while) it's that it happens relatively rarely and for the most part not noticable during gameplay, only replays..

the FRAME RATE OTOH... get to work on a patch 2K

[Moegames]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

He doesn't need to "bring it to light." We all see it. Does it deter from the game? Some may disagree with the answer to that question.

Oh ok..thats just funny there guy

So when i was playing the cpu and i was up by 2 in the last final minute of the game and the cpu ran up the court and popped off the winning 3 pt shot WHILE i had my HAND clearly ON THE BALL for a blocked shot ..that would of won the game for me but since the ball went thru my hand and into the net.. THE CPU WON!!... ..but it DOES NOT DETER FROM THE GAME?

You GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!

Look, this guy that makes these video's is probally one of the most honest people i've met on the internet in a very long time as far as giving his honest to goodness opinion in which he PROVIDES PROOF! . WHen you say he doesnt need to bring it to light,etc,etc because we all are aware of it is ridiculous ... are you sure about that buddy? Maybe you should just speak for yourself because i know a BOAT LOAD of people freaking out about this now and are now noticing its a game killer.

I just proved it deters from gameplay..i LOST a game because of this crap. Dude are you BLIND? Its in the video's.. points are being scored because of this colission detection when they rightfully shouldnt be counted as points..it DETERS from the game, the only way it dont deter from the game is if you close your freaking eye's and are in pure denial..which you are, sorry to say.

Anyone that gets bothered by Gideon Prime's video's is a stubborn fanboy...bottom line!

[MikeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by fffffffff9

seems like the ball is only really a physics object after it's completely left a player's hands it wouldn't take a lot of intelligence or coding know-how to change it to as soon as the pass/shoot button is pressed, then we wouldn't see so much of this having clipping on the basketball itself is just lazy. there's no excuse.

This is actually a really interesting statement. It's true, the ball doesn't appear to be a physical object until it's lose and bouncing around. We really don't expect the game to be constantly calculating the physics of the player's hand pushing down for each dribble and then catching it each time do we? We just want it to calculate the likelihood of success, while providing a satisfying visual image to accompany the outcome.

I appreciate people wanting the game to behave as realistically as possible, but at the same time, you're trying to control the greatest athletes in the world with two sticks and 8 buttons. The level of realism that you're demanding just isn't possible.

At the same time, why should we assume it's only a negative to the defender? If there was truer freedom to the offensive player, who's to say that he wouldn't have attempted a quicker release, or arced the ball higher, or made any number of adjustments to avoid the block? I know you want your button press to lead to the desired outcome, but in reality your button press made the player jump, raise his arm, move towards the shooter, and line his hand up with the ball. I guess I just don't have a big problem if your button input, even when done "correctly enough" doesn't lead to a perfect outcome every time. It's not like you "earned" it.

Would it be great if this didn't happen? Sure. But it hardly is the result of laziness.

[Moegames]

Quote: Originally Posted by kaydigi

Those pics are disgusting. Chris Kaman just kept clipping through my defender and scoring. It was costing me wins. Is there any work around for this?

i hope so but you know..there is another game out there thats not bad..its called NBA Live09...

Im gonna hang on to both games i have....hopefully a patch can fix this and i also noticed comeback AI in 2k9..thats when stuff like this seems to happen more..during the 4qtr..watch, people will notice this soon as well..i bet

[kaydigi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Moegames

i hope so but you know..there is another game out there thats not bad..its called NBA Live09... Im gonna hang on to both games i have....hopefully a patch can fix this and i also noticed comeback AI in 2k9..thats when stuff like this seems to happen more..during the 4qtr..watch, people will notice this soon as well..i bet

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