Official NASCAR 2014 Moves And Updates

[superjames1992]

Well, I guess if they wanted to make NASCAR have a playoff system, they've done it...

But it's terrible.

[Ice_Cold345]

If you are going to make it a one race to determine it all, remove all drivers except those four. There are too many variables that would ruin a race with all 43 drivers out there. If you have Jimmie Johnson in the lead and in the Chase still at Homestead, and Jeff Gordon is behind him, one lap down and out of the Chase. What's preventing Jeff from blocking the 2nd place driver in the Chase from getting to Jimmie? If you say Jeff has to let him by, then that defeats the "100% all the time" rule, because Jeff has to give less then 100%, so that X driver can pass him, making it harder for Jeff to get a lap back.

Also, how about this scenario: you have one guy that was insanely dominant throughout the year, like a 1998 Jeff Gordon season(13 wins / 28 Top Tens) or 2007 Jimmie Johnson season (10 wins / 24 Top Tens), but they get spun out or some mechanical breakdown cost them the race and the championship, because one race (with 39 other drivers who serve no purpose) is now to determine the championship leader. In the old chase, you could at least build up a points lead to have a comfortable margain, but nope, not anymore.

If they removed everybody but those four drivers, nobody would watch it, because after probably 50 or so laps, there is going to be a gap between the drivers, and nobody is going to watch that. But, if you have all 43 drivers on the field, you bring up the many variables problem, and what would happen if a driver was purposely spun out by an opposing team, so that their own driver could win? They wouldn't give the spun-out driver the championship(or at least co-champion), because that would be stupid, but you also would have to deal with the real fact that it's possible someone would do that (see last year's Richmond race.)

Also, this somewhat condones cheating, unless they redo how penalties are done. What's the point of penalizing a driver in points, if he has two wins? Unless they do it where you lose that race, people will easily bend the rules in later races, because what harm is it to them.

[boneyard40]

If they want drivers to race for wins then take the point system out completly and determind the champion on who wins the most races.If it a tie then the who has the most seconds and so on.Playoff system is not for racing.Just my opinion.

[Proof21]

Just make it simple, driver with most points after 36 races wins the title. No gimmicks please.

[SilentYetViolent]

Quote: Originally Posted by Proof21

Just make it simple, driver with most points after 36 races wins the title. No gimmicks please.

Old-school Winston....I grew up in the 90s and that's the only points system I approve of, imo

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[Happy29]

NASCAR Announces New Penalty And Appeals Process

NASCAR has announced changes to its penalty structure and appeals process, beginning this season. In addition to these changes, NASCAR also announced the appointment of a Final Appeals Officer for the sport.

“NASCAR’s Deterrence System is designed to help maintain the integrity and competitive balance of our sport while sending a clear message that rules violations will not be tolerated,” said Steve O’Donnell, NASCAR executive vice president of racing operations. “This is a more transparent and effective model that specifically spells out that ‘X’ infraction equals ‘X’ penalty for technical infractions.

“At the same time, we believe the Appeals process allows a fair opportunity for our NASCAR Members to be heard, and have penalty disputes resolved by an impartial, relevant group of people with the ability to handle the complexities inherent in any appeal. This system has been tailored specifically to fit the needs of our sport.”

Bryan Moss, former president at Gulfstream Aerospace, has been selected as the Final Appeals Officer. Moss will hear matters on appeal from the lower three-member Appeals Panel, and serve as the last decision on penalty disputes for the sport. According to Forbes.com, Moss served as President Emeritus of Gulfstream Aerospace from April 2007 until his retirement in March 2008, and previously served for four years as President of Gulfstream Aerospace and Executive Vice President, Aerospace Group, General Dynamics Corporation. He has served on the U.S.-Japan Business Council, the U.S.-China Business Council, and the U.S.-Hong Kong Business Council. He is also a past member of the Georgia Tech Advisory Board and the Savannah College of Art and Design Board of Visitors. He has been the Chairman of Business Aircraft Investments at Guggenheim Partners since June 2011.

NASCAR’s new Deterrence System specifically lays out exactly what disciplinary action will be taken, depending on the type of technical infraction listed; from warnings to six penalty levels in ascending order.

The system begins with warnings (W) issued for minor infractions, and continues through six levels, from P1 (least significant) to P6 (most significant).
Lower P levels list penalty options from which NASCAR may select (fines or points) while higher P levels are an all-inclusive combination of multiple penalty elements (points and fine and suspension, etc.).

At the highest three levels of the system, if a rules infraction is discovered in post-race inspection, one or more additional penalty elements are added on top of the standard prescribed penalty.

Repeat offenses by the same car are addressed via a “recurrence multiplier,” i.e. if a P4 penalty was received and a second P4 or higher infraction occurs in the same season, the subsequent penalty increases 50% above the normal standard.

Suspensions are explained in greater detail under the new system, with behavioral infractions still handled on case-by-case basis not involving the W, P1-P6 structure.

The 2014 Rule Book will explain how and why NASCAR issues penalties, as well as the factors considered when determining a penalty. The Rule Book also will detail the types of infractions that fall within each level by citing examples that are included but not limited to:

· Warnings issued instead of penalties for certain types of minor, first-time infractions.
· P1 penalties may result from multiple warnings to the same team.
· P2 penalties may include (but are not limited to) violations such as hollow components, expiration of certain safety certification or improper installation of a safety feature, or minor bracket and fasteners violations.
· P3 penalty options may include (but are not limited to) violations such as unauthorized parts, measurement failures, parts that fail their intended use, or coil spring violation.
· P4 level infractions may include (but are not limited to) violations such as devices that circumvent NASCAR templates and measuring equipment, or unapproved added weight.
· P5 level may include (but are not limited to) violations such as combustion-enhancing additives in the oil, oil filter, air filter element or devices, systems, omissions, etc., that affect the normal airflow over the body.
· P6 level may include (but are not limited to) violations such as affecting the internal workings and performance of the engine, modifying the pre-certified chassis, traction control or affecting EFI or the ECU.
NASCAR’s new appeals process continues to provide two tiers for resolving disputes. On the first level --before a three-member Appeals Panel -- NASCAR has the burden of showing that a penalty violation has occurred. On the second and final level, only a NASCAR Member is allowed to appeal and they have the burden of showing the Final Appeals Officer that the panel decision was incorrect.

Changes to the previous appeals process include:
· Clearly identifying the procedural rights of NASCAR Members.
· Detailing responsibilities of parties throughout the process.
· Allowing parties the option to submit summaries on issues before the Appeals Panel.
· Allowing NASCAR Members named in the penalty to be present during the entire hearing.
· Appeals Administrator is not allowed to be present during panel deliberations.
· Creating a clear Expedited Appeals Procedure, when necessary.
· Changing the name of the Appeals Panel to The National Motorsports Appeals Panel.

[dochalladay32]

Sure. You'll post that, but not one damn mention about Reed Sorenson getting the #36 ride? Come on, man.

[eX29]

Quote: Originally Posted by Proof21

Just make it simple, driver with most points after 36 races wins the title. No gimmicks please.

Very well said. It's the only way to go.


I don't care what they say for me I still determine the true champion with this format even IF they don't anymore.


The real champion would be the team with the most points after the full 36 races and IF they want to keep the chase format make it a secondary trophy just so they can keep their lame attempt at a playoff style format.