Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens - Game over!

[Abe Sargent]

Final minute?

[Poli]

ATTACK JUGGERNAUT.

DD

[DaddyTorgo]

if that's true anxiety...we just have to hope you're not one of the 12, and apologize for removing you in error.

[LoneStarGirl]

LSG is very much raising my eyebrow still with all of her curious play. I'm really surprised that we havn't crystallized a movement on her AT ALL. She has barely garnered any serious discussion, playing a great game if she is a wolf.

Why does everyone always think i am a wolf! Every game i play, I am a wolf to you people :p

[Abe Sargent]

You know, in a way, its odd, because my death is like a giant F You to everybody who voted for me. Isn't that bad? I'm a bad person

[DaddyTorgo]

wow...last minute shenanigans by daredevil???


interesting!

DEADLINE

[Abe Sargent]

I'm very bad

[Abe Sargent]

But not in teh way you hope

[Abe Sargent]

;)

[Tyrith]

Deadline. You are all now dead. Results in a few minutes. Two of those statements are true. Have fun guessing which two :P

[DaddyTorgo]

Why does everyone always think i am a wolf! Every game i play, I am a wolf to you people :p

prolly cuz you're a girl.;)

[Abe Sargent]

Deadline. You are all now dead. Results in a few minutes. Two of those statements are true. Have fun guessing which two :P

Results in a few minutes is false?

Actually, all three could be true and meet your definition.

[GoldenEagle]

ATTACK JUGGERNAUT.

DD

I thought we were on a team? This will not bode well for you, I predict.

[Abe Sargent]

I'd like an official apology from Alan T in just a few minutes. :)

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Well Hawkeye, you've certainly got me interested to see what happens now.

[Alan T]

I'd like an official apology from Alan T in just a few minutes. :)

I still am having a hard time believing you. Part of me thinks you're playing it up in hopes of a duke role out there. Guess we will see. i still stand by my earlier comment that if you are one of the 12, I will be extremely completely shocked.

[Poli]

I thought we were on a team? This will not bode well for you, I predict.

We're in an alliance, but I'm not sure why you are there. I trust Doom, not you. You've pushed to remove X. I didn't like that.

[DaddyTorgo]

does seem like he's playing it up

[hoopsguy]

OK, caught up on reading now. Will have results up soon.

[path12]

So Juggernaut and Hawkeye have attacks coming? Were there others?

[LoneStarGirl]

Since HULK is in no danger, I will deal with CPT MARVEL's antics later.


(captain marvel)
I wasn't about to vote for Hawkeye, and there was a lot of talk about going after hulk. I wasn't about to go for Juggernaut because there was no case. So please tell me, how will you 'deal' with my antics?

[Abe Sargent]

Someone just pm'd me and said I got the shaft this game. Thought that was really funny. Me, The archer of your dreams, getting the shaft. Heh.

-Hawkeye


(ooc) by the way, that is so the way Hawkeye would really die in teh comics, the way I've been hamming it up but with a frenetic recklessness behind it (/ooc)

[Abe Sargent]

Enter official message in three?

[Abe Sargent]

I love you all *hic*

[Abe Sargent]

Please, no more, please, stop. That tickles.

[Abe Sargent]

I wanna ride the pony

[Abe Sargent]

REsults in two?

[Abe Sargent]

Won;t somebody love me?

[Abe Sargent]

Ah well, it was fun while it lasted, right gang? Gang? Where'd everybody go?

[Abe Sargent]

The lights are dark

[Alan T]

Won;t somebody love me?


I love you!

[Abe Sargent]

I;m getting sleepy

[Abe Sargent]

sleepy

[LoneStarGirl]

anxiety, i put my neck on the line for you, you better be good damnit!

[Abe Sargent]

...

[LoneStarGirl]

Too bad these posts dont count, you would have 4000 by now Anxiety

[LoneStarGirl]

...

[Alan T]

Let me guess, Anxiety was a brutal wolf or duke or something and took me out with him :)

[LoneStarGirl]

Let me guess, Anxiety was a brutal wolf or duke or something and took me out with him :)

lol that would be awesome... I mean, that would suck to have you gone, Alant ;)

[DaddyTorgo]

actually, as much as i'd hate to lose an active player who throws things out there, as long as alan wasn't one of the 12 that'd be a great trade.

then again, unless it was a random-choice of who to take, i presume evil would take one of the 12

[hoopsguy]

The momentum from yesterday carries through with a new array of attacks against America's favorite archer. Deadpool begin the festivities by dropping a grenade near the limping archer, whose bones creak as he attempts to evade. His time is short ...

The immovable Juggernaut may not be quite as invincible as he would have others believe. Gambit loads up an entire deck of playing cards and plays fifty-two card pickup across the gargantuan torso of Cain Marko. KABOOOOOMM! He is lifted into the air and hurdled for a quarter mile before landing awkwardly. What a wallop!!! In what would be his dying act, Hawkeye fires a pair of arrows from range into Juggernaut, catching him squarely in each eye with trick arrows. Mathemanic looks to deliver the coup de grace, but finds his mental attack rebuffed!

The members of Mutant First coordinate their attacks - Magneto and Warpath deliver a deadly one/two combination, leaving him a bloodied mess. Those wounds are quickly closed by the intense heat of Mandarin's flame attack, just as Cannonball rockets into the limp form of Clint Barton. A sickening crack sounds out, as Hawkeye's life is extinguished. A couple of late attacks pile on, but they are not needed.

As the body of Hawkeye flickers away, just as the others before him, you hear a familiar and haunting laugh. No words need to be spoken - you know that once again a member of the Twelve has been claimed. The war efforts of Apocalypse have met with scant resistance so far ...

Night 3 has begun.

[DaddyTorgo]

GODDAMMIT!

[Alan T]

blah

[Poli]

My attack wasn't worthy again??

DD

[Tyrith]

Pre-defense damage for today:

Juggernaut - 28
Hawkeye - 13.5
Wolverine - 3
Deadpool - 1
Cappy Marvel - 1
Dr. Doom - 1

[LoneStarGirl]

Okay, so Juggernaut is still in the game?

[Mr. Wednesday]

So, for analyzing what happened on day 2, we need to pool the attackers of both Hawkeye and Mystique.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Juggernaut is still alive, but he's looking a little peaked right now. :)

[hoopsguy]

Okay, so Juggernaut is still in the game?

Yes.

[LoneStarGirl]

Anxiety, want to do the 'i told you so's' now or later? :P

[Mr. Wednesday]

Who's thrown in extra damage on Juggernaut? I did (fruitlessly, it appears), Gambit did, the late Hawkeye did. Does that add up to 28, or are there some other added damage attacks?

[path12]

So, for analyzing what happened on day 2, we need to pool the attackers of both Hawkeye and Mystique.

(Silver Surfer)

Agreed, but I think it is also prudent to look at those who made the diversionary attacks to Deadpool, Captain Marvel and Doom.

[SackAttack]

Just wanted to revive this in the aftermath of Hawkeye's loss.

We know now that both Mystique and Hawkeye were members of the Twelve.

That leaves Doom as the only member standing of the three.

The question now is, did the Horsemen actively use him as a distraction, or did they just push for another member of the Twelve (Hawkeye) so that all of the attention that day - and a certain lynch - was aimed at two of their targets?

If they didn't use him as a distraction and he's good, then the Horsemen were awfully aggressive there, and we ought to look hard at people who voted for Hawkeye yesterday.

If they did use him as a distraction and he's good/one of the Twelve, things get murkier for me.

If they used him as a distraction and he's bad, then that's one hell of a ballsy play.

If they *didn't* use him as a distraction, and he's a Horseman, then I owe Deadpool an apology for attacking him tonight.


(Captain America)

Welcome aboard, Professor. Hopefully our newfound partnership bears fruit.

I'm personally at a loss right now. There were three names that I was, in descending degrees of certainty, looking at as being part of the Apocalyptic Five. The name I was most certain of turned out to be one of the Twelve, so I'm not any longer certain about the other two, as my suspicion of them was predicated in part upon behaviors similar to those that led me to attack Mystique.

{OOC} Captain Marvel still gives me a weird vibe, but there's that whole "learned how her character is supposed to behave" thing that's throwing me off there. {/OOC}

I think Doctor Doom is okay, even with the unexplained horse thing.

Reasoning: I'm wondering if the horse has to do not with whether or not the attack was successful, but on who launched the attack.

Remember that our actions are constrained, as heroes, by the amount of energy we have. Isn't it reasonable to assume that, if nothing else, Apocalypse's Horsemen have similar restrictions?

Additionally, given that constraint, it seems entirely possible to me that the Apocalyptic Five might be constrained in terms of how many attacks they can launch in a given night, but not necessarily in terms of WHO can attack.

Therefore, Doctor Doom could well have been attacked on the first night and fended the attack off with his first Doombot, and the golden horse may be just so much sound and fury, intended only to tell us "Look, the attacker was a Horseman, not the Head Honcho himself."

I am confident in Captain Britain's loyalty, and given our collective track record so far, I am willing to believe in the excitement of his vision, the Professor simply failed to remember that discretion is the better part of valor.

Hawkeye was one of my other two early targets, but given the surprising number of attacks on him when Doctor Doom seemed to be the early target, I'm thinking along another line right now.

We know that the Horsemen know who the Twelve are. We know that early in Day 2, Doctor Doom was at risk of lynch (partly because of the tandem of Deadpool and Wolverine). Now, given that the possibility of a double lynch exists, given that we know now Mystique was one of the Twelve and that she was targeted by some of us due partly to her weakened state (and thus a likely lynch in and of herself), is it possible that the Horsemen chose to target Hawkeye as another member of the Twelve while the Doom/Mystique distraction was present?

If Doom is good, but not a member of the Twelve, I think it possible that they might have relied on our perception of his value to create that illusion - that, in fact, he may HAVE been a member - and used that as cover to strike at a second member of the Twelve, perhaps with the aim of removing two via lynch, followed by a third under cover of night.

I recognize that Hawkeye was attacked before some of us targeted Mystique late, but at the same time, some of us - including myself - had been talking about Mystique as a possibility since day 1...so I don't think there needed to be incipient violence against her for them to make that move - only the potential for it.

The REALLY fun part is if Doom IS a member of the Twelve - then they just couldn't lose with that threesome of suspects.

Thoughts?

[Poli]

Who's thrown in extra damage on Juggernaut? I did (fruitlessly, it appears), Gambit did, the late Hawkeye did. Does that add up to 28, or are there some other added damage attacks?
I'm a 1-pointer myself.

DD

[DaddyTorgo]

least you guys will get one more confirmed good-guy out of me before i die

[DaddyTorgo]

course i suppose evil could leave me alive in order to try to cast doubt on me...

[GoldenEagle]

I am just in shock that someone who is obviously bad such as professor X can get away without anyone even mentioning him beside me. The bad players are playing a good game, but sometimes I feel like I am the only player who is not a member of horsemen in this game.

[DaddyTorgo]

GE...are you kidding me?

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

For the record (and because I don't even know if this will show up or not since it looks like Hawkeye passed away just before my attack) I had a one-point attack.

[Swaggs]

(OOC)

Hey guys, sorry that I did not perform an action. I ended up staying late at work and then forgot that we had dinnerplans.

Catching up now. I guess I should see if I am still alive before reading through ten pages. :)

[GoldenEagle]

GE...are you kidding me?

Let me ask you this. SackAttack said he would look into being good/bad. What did you tell him? You told him not to waste his time. Normally a player in that situation says go ahead and scan me, I have no problem with that. You, on the other hand, begged him not to "waste" one.

[DaddyTorgo]

seems to me that we've given a lot of people free pass for missing a lot of actions and not contributing in this game that we wouldn't cut slack in other games.

just an observation...

[path12]

The question now is, did the Horsemen actively use him as a distraction, or did they just push for another member of the Twelve (Hawkeye) so that all of the attention that day - and a certain lynch - was aimed at two of their targets?

(Silver Surfer)

I'm not sure if there actually was a distraction. Hawkeye was down to 25% health. For better or worse (and it turned out worse), he remained under suspicion mainly because of the thought that he had been protected by the run to Mystique the day before. I think that there was a need to find out if that theory was valid or not, and because of that Hawkeye needed to go. Based on the damage Juggernaut took, I'm thinking it's pretty hard to get two day kills, which means that there really wasn't a lot of need for distraction.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Let me ask you this. SackAttack said he would look into being good/bad. What did you tell him? You told him not to waste his time. Normally a player in that situation says go ahead and scan me, I have no problem with that. You, on the other hand, begged him not to "waste" one.

Because he's already been vouched for by a player who was confirmed good.

SPIDER-MAN

[Barkeep49]

seems to me that we've given a lot of people free pass for missing a lot of actions and not contributing in this game that we wouldn't cut slack in other games.

just an observation...
Word.

[DaddyTorgo]

Let me ask you this. SackAttack said he would look into being good/bad. What did you tell him? You told him not to waste his time. Normally a player in that situation says go ahead and scan me, I have no problem with that. You, on the other hand, begged him not to "waste" one.


yeah. because enough people trust me (i think) that I am not in danger. certainly if he has the chance and i am in danger he should.

but as a team player i now that what happens to me isn't important. there's been enough controversy swirling around me all game anyways. he needs to find someone else of the 12 (if his ability works that way, we're not even sure what it was)

[Barkeep49]

(Silver Surfer)

I'm not sure if there actually was a distraction. Hawkeye was down to 25% health. For better or worse (and it turned out worse), he remained under suspicion mainly because of the thought that he had been protected by the run to Mystique the day before. I think that there was a need to find out if that theory was valid or not, and because of that Hawkeye needed to go. Based on the damage Juggernaut took, I'm thinking it's pretty hard to get two day kills, which means that there really wasn't a lot of need for distraction.
So let's take a look at the early voters on Hawkeye for both days. There's gotta be a horseman in the mix somehwere. Of course I'm one of those people and not a horseman, so that theory is not infallible.

[LoneStarGirl]

I really think everyone needs to look at Magneto, Warpath and Spiderman.

I know those three, and they are not on the level. I would put Deadpool next on the list.

Quoted for truth

[DaddyTorgo]

dola

typos "know" not "now"

and "we're not sure what it IS" not "we're not sure what it was"

[LoneStarGirl]

Hoops, you got the actions for today somewhere handy? What about yesterday? :-)

[hoopsguy]

Final wrap-up on today's actions:

Post #2007 (1:17PM) Deadpool attacks Hawkeye (grenade)
Post #2069 (4:51PM) Wolverine attacks Doom (claws)
Post #2085 (5:02PM) Hulk attacks Wolverine (fist)
Post #2120 (5:41PM) Magneto attacks Hawkeye (magnetic pulse)
Post #2122 (5:47PM) Warpath attacks Hawkeye (knife)
Post #2124 (5:58PM) Mandarin attacks Hawkeye (ring - fire)
Post #2142 (6:27PM) Marvel attacks Hulk (energy blast)
Post #2173 (7:05PM) Gambit attacks Juggernaut (cards)
Post #2190 (7:25PM) Hawkeye attacks Juggernaut (explosive arrow, normal arrow)
Post #2198 (7:42PM) Mathemanic attacks Juggernaut (mental attack)
Post #2211 (8:11PM) Cannonball attacks Hawkeye (rocket blast)
Post #2212 (8:11PM) Surfer attacks Hawkeye (power cosmic)
Post #2214 (8:14PM) Moon Knight attacks Captain Marvel (dart)
Post #2218 (8:22PM) Spiderman attacks Hawkeye (punch)
Post #2226 (8:34PM) Venom attacks Hawkeye (special attack - sneak attack)
Post #2230 (8:40PM) Captain America attacks Deadpool (shield)
Post #2236 (8:50PM) Juggernaut attacks Hawkeye (fist)
Post #2252 (8:59PM) Daredevil attacks Juggernaut (club)

[LoneStarGirl]

Deadpool, Magneto and Warpath are the first three to attack Hawkeye today. Incidentally they were in the top four Gramm suggested yesterday.

[GoldenEagle]

Because he's already been vouched for by a player who was confirmed good.

SPIDER-MAN

I do not know if anyone at this point can say whether anyone is good or not. The bottom line is that we are getting our asses handed to us by the wolves. Traditional thinking and vouching needs to go out the window. I know I am dead tomorrow (the sad thing is, that will put us even further behind), but I going to do the team a favor and slam Professor X before I go out.

[gi]

Interesting turn of events. Blind attacking isn't leading us anywhere. Hopefully tonight will offer a glimmer of information for us good guys.

[Schmidty]

Deadpool, Magneto and Warpath are the first three to attack Hawkeye today. Incidentally they were in the top four Gramm suggested yesterday.

PUNY WOMAN DARE TRY TO HURT HULK?!?!?!?!

HULK THINKS HE SHOULD DEMOLISH YOU TOMORROW, EVIL LADY!!!!!!!!!!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

(captain marvel)
I wasn't about to vote for Hawkeye, and there was a lot of talk about going after hulk. I wasn't about to go for Juggernaut because there was no case. So please tell me, how will you 'deal' with my antics?

You make no sense. How can you say that there was no case against Juggernaut?

So do i, which is exactly why I changed my mind off of voting for him. But I refuse to vote Hawkeye. That really only leaves the Hulk and the quieter players. Damn, I have to go to class ...

Attack Hulk

The "So do I" part refers to you agreeing with DD who was agreeing with what I had said about Juggernaut.

I think you have some explaining to do.

SPIDER-MAN

[Poli]

Word.
That's my line.

DD

[DaddyTorgo]

GE is making me very suspicious. i need to know before i go to bed if there is anyone who will be willing/able to protect me from his attack tomorrow. because if not i will have to modify my night actions tonight to try to preserve my life tomorrow by saving some energy I suppose, as my physical strength likely will not stand up to a serious attack by juggernaut.

[GoldenEagle]

You make no sense. How can you say that there was no case against Juggernaut?


There was no case. It is just blind attacking.

[LoneStarGirl]

You make no sense. How can you say that there was no case against Juggernaut?

The "So do I" part refers to you agreeing with DD who was agreeing with what I had said about Juggernaut.

I think you have some explaining to do.

SPIDER-MAN

You guys voted on Juggernaut right after I told you he was going to be gone. on that principal alone, I was not going to vote for him.

[DaddyTorgo]

putting me into "defend myself" mode is just what evil would want...it keeps me from helping us identify more good players.

[gi]

GE is making me very suspicious. i need to know before i go to bed if there is anyone who will be willing/able to protect me from his attack tomorrow. because if not i will have to modify my night actions tonight to try to preserve my life tomorrow by saving some energy I suppose, as my physical strength likely will not stand up to a serious attack by juggernaut.

All my energy will be depleted when I invoke my special ability on myself tonight. I may be able to offer support as one of my daylight actions.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

GE is making me very suspicious. i need to know before i go to bed if there is anyone who will be willing/able to protect me from his attack tomorrow. because if not i will have to modify my night actions tonight to try to preserve my life tomorrow by saving some energy I suppose, as my physical strength likely will not stand up to a serious attack by juggernaut.

Carry on with your plan. I don't see how Juggernaut can get any kind of movement against you.

SPIDER-MAN

[Jonathan Ezarik]

You guys voted on Juggernaut right after I told you he was going to be gone. on that principal alone, I was not going to vote for him.

That's completely different than saying that there wasn't a case against him.

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

Yes.

28 damage and still alive...damn he had a lot of health, as being the top damage reciever we only had to take him to 0, no?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

putting me into "defend myself" mode is just what evil would want...it keeps me from helping us identify more good players.

Why does it matter if Juggernaut kills you tomorrow? You fully expect to be killed tonight, right? As long as you can give us at least one more name, that's what we really need.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

Carry on with your plan. I don't see how Juggernaut can get any kind of movement against you.

SPIDER-MAN

he wouldn't need much of a movement. although i guess he couldn't do me in alone.

oh well. that's all assuming i make it into tomorrow anyways.

[DaddyTorgo]

lol. look at our post times spidey :-)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

28 damage and still alive...damn he had a lot of health, as being the top damage reciever we only had to take him to 0, no?

Unless he didn't take all 28 points of damage. If there was a horsemen in that attack, couldn't they lower his damage? Isn't the 28 points an indication of how many points are directed his way, but not actually taken?

SPIDER-MAN

[Jonathan Ezarik]

lol. look at our post times spidey :-)

You know what they say about great minds. :)

SPIDER-MAN

[LoneStarGirl]

Professor I really dont think you have anything to worry about during the day. You might have a couple people push against you, but nothing will stick. I would be worried about Apocolypse or his horsemen trying to take you out.

[Poli]

Lost. What do you mean?

DD

[DaddyTorgo]

Professor I really dont think you have anything to worry about during the day. You might have a couple people push against you, but nothing will stick. I would be worried about Apocolypse or his horsemen trying to take you out.

i hope so. i guess i just...panic

[Poli]

I'm concerned for you through tonight.

DD

[Blade6119]

Unless he didn't take all 28 points of damage. If there was a horsemen in that attack, couldn't they lower his damage? Isn't the 28 points an indication of how many points are directed his way, but not actually taken?

SPIDER-MAN

I thought that was post-sabotage???

[Blade6119]

I'm concerned for you through tonight.

DD

Im not, prof. X is as safe as could be tonight...the bodyguard has no one more important to guard tonight

[Jonathan Ezarik]

To clarify, this is damage that they would have taken before any defenses powers come into play.

This was Tyrith's note after the first day's damage was reported. I'm assuming it still holds now. I include sabotage in defensive powers. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

Im not, prof. X is as safe as could be tonight...the bodyguard has no one more important to guard tonight

interesting point blade. although...could we have killed the bodyguard without realizing it? hidden roles right?

[Tyrith]

This was Tyrith's note after the first day's damage was reported. I'm assuming it still holds now. I include sabotage in defensive powers. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

SPIDER-MAN

Pretty much the damage totals you get are all the damage the people that executed the attacks could have done if absolutely nothing interfered.

[Barkeep49]

Unless he didn't take all 28 points of damage. If there was a horsemen in that attack, couldn't they lower his damage? Isn't the 28 points an indication of how many points are directed his way, but not actually taken?

SPIDER-MAN
If the 28 was lowered it was by his own defensive means, unless Apocolypse can lower damage behind the scenes.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Thanks Tyrith.

So either Juggernaut is extremely powerful, or there were a couple of Horsemen involved in saving him.

SPIDER-MAN

[Jonathan Ezarik]

If the 28 was lowered it was by his own defensive means, unless Apocolypse can lower damage behind the scenes.

I wonder if Apocalypse and gang have the ability to do that. Since they don't need to use energy to sniff around at night, maybe that's how the get to use their energy?

SPIDER-MAN

[GoldenEagle]

Thanks Tyrith.

So either Juggernaut is extremely powerful, or there were a couple of Horsemen involved in saving him.

SPIDER-MAN

Of course I am powerful. Look at my name for crying out loud. How do you figure the Horseman could have saved me? Sheesh, I think all of you people are brainwashed.

[Grammaticus]

28 damage and still alive...damn he had a lot of health, as being the top damage reciever we only had to take him to 0, no?
So, he either had greater than 28 health or was able to mitigate 15 points, putting him below 13.5

Which was it Juggernaut?

[Barkeep49]

Grammaticus: There's clearly an answer of both. If he could mitigate 9 points, for instance, and had a health of 20 then he's just dandy today.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

**sits in the corner and whistles**

When are you rubes going to listen to me!?

Doom doom doom.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Grammaticus: There's clearly an answer of both. If he could mitigate 9 points, for instance, and had a health of 20 then he's just dandy today.

That seems almost too powerful to me. It's possible, but I don't like it.

SPIDER-MAN

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

Well, since you all aren't listening to me, I guess I'm going to have to slip away from you guys and start handling things my way.

[Blade6119]

(Wolverine)

Well, since you all aren't listening to me, I guess I'm going to have to slip away from you guys and start handling things my way.

Ive told you a few times i support a vote on doom, but you dont particularly like me in-game so i dont fault you for ignoring it

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I'm out for the night. If something is to happen to me overnight, I want it to be known that I trust the Hulk.

SPIDER-MAN

[path12]

Final wrap-up on today's actions:

Post #2007 (1:17PM) Deadpool attacks Hawkeye (grenade)
Post #2069 (4:51PM) Wolverine attacks Doom (claws)
Post #2085 (5:02PM) Hulk attacks Wolverine (fist)
Post #2120 (5:41PM) Magneto attacks Hawkeye (magnetic pulse)
Post #2122 (5:47PM) Warpath attacks Hawkeye (knife)
Post #2124 (5:58PM) Mandarin attacks Hawkeye (ring - fire)
Post #2142 (6:27PM) Marvel attacks Hulk (energy blast)
Post #2173 (7:05PM) Gambit attacks Juggernaut (cards)
Post #2190 (7:25PM) Hawkeye attacks Juggernaut (explosive arrow, normal arrow)
Post #2198 (7:42PM) Mathemanic attacks Juggernaut (mental attack)
Post #2211 (8:11PM) Cannonball attacks Hawkeye (rocket blast)
Post #2212 (8:11PM) Surfer attacks Hawkeye (power cosmic)
Post #2214 (8:14PM) Moon Knight attacks Captain Marvel (dart)
Post #2218 (8:22PM) Spiderman attacks Hawkeye (punch)
Post #2226 (8:34PM) Venom attacks Hawkeye (special attack - sneak attack)
Post #2230 (8:40PM) Captain America attacks Deadpool (shield)
Post #2236 (8:50PM) Juggernaut attacks Hawkeye (fist)
Post #2252 (8:59PM) Daredevil attacks Juggernaut (club)

(Silver Surfer)

The attacks on Juggernaut were 1 special (cards) -- I wonder if that might be classified as magic; another special (explosive arrow) -- that's got to be physical; normal arrow -- another physical; mental attack -- mental of course; and a club (physical)

So that's three physical attacks (one special), a special magic attack and a mental attack.

What if he is immune to most physical attacks? That would mitigate much of the damage. Or at least repels part of the attack. I know there are immunities to certain kinds of attacks.

[Bonegavel]

Ive told you a few times i support a vote on doom, but you dont particularly like me in-game so i dont fault you for ignoring it

(Wolverine)

It's all right. I've tried playing the team game for a while and now that time has come to an end. You are either with me or against me.

That doesn't mean I'm not a patient man. I'm going to drop into the shadows and only pop up when I see the time is right.

[DaddyTorgo]

tyrith...can you confirm...is this a hidden-roles game, partially hidden, or partially revealed or fully revealed?

[Grammaticus]

(Silver Surfer)

The attacks on Juggernaut were 1 special (cards) -- I wonder if that might be classified as magic; another special (explosive arrow) -- that's got to be physical; normal arrow -- another physical; mental attack -- mental of course; and a club (physical)

So that's three physical attacks (one special), a special magic attack and a mental attack.

What if he is immune to most physical attacks? That would mitigate much of the damage. Or at least repels part of the attack. I know there are immunities to certain kinds of attacks.
Is it possible that any of the attacks could have provided protection or healing of some sort?

[path12]

Is it possible that any of the attacks could have provided protection or healing of some sort?

I don't know the character. Maybe he has a healing ability, I guess. With a name like Juggernaut, at least a partial immunity to physical attacks seems to fit better in my mind.

[ntndeacon]

(Mandarin)
well didnt the night post from Hoops make it seem that the mental attack was ineffective. I also imagine that he can ignore some physical attacks as well.

[Blade6119]

(Silver Surfer)

The attacks on Juggernaut were 1 special (cards) -- I wonder if that might be classified as magic; another special (explosive arrow) -- that's got to be physical; normal arrow -- another physical; mental attack -- mental of course; and a club (physical)

So that's three physical attacks (one special), a special magic attack and a mental attack.

What if he is immune to most physical attacks? That would mitigate much of the damage. Or at least repels part of the attack. I know there are immunities to certain kinds of attacks.

Didnt hulk get attacked but take no damage? Maybe a few of the bruisers are immune to physical damage?

[DaddyTorgo]

blade...any reason to believe that we havn't killed the bodyguard by accident? i need to think about my night actions here and get them in in a couple hours

[Blade6119]

blade...any reason to believe that we havn't killed the bodyguard by accident? i need to think about my night actions here and get them in in a couple hours
I have no reason to believe we have or have not killed the bodyguard, other then most of the roles told us their powers as they were dying(the day lynches at least) and none claimed role. Though i highly suspect it may be split up between multiple players, like our seer role. More then 2 players

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmm. that gives me pause. i have a tough decision with expending more energy but having that failsafe, or saving some energy so that i can build up my reserves but having no failsafe

[Blade6119]

hmmm. that gives me pause. i have a tough decision with expending more energy but having that failsafe, or saving some energy so that i can build up my reserves but having no failsafe

I cant offer you anything tonight, my action is already sent in...britain is protecting himself by the sound of things, though it sounded like america was going to visit you tonight.

[DaddyTorgo]

oh captain my captain?

[SackAttack]

Whatcha need, Professor?

[ntndeacon]

The road not taken?

[Blade6119]

oh captain my captain?

He mentioned it early today, though i dont know if hes still sold on that route. He said he would clear you tonight in return if i remember...might have just been posturing though. Make no mistake about it if your asking dt, im not a bodyguard and im not protecting you tonight. I get that vibe, so let me put that to rest right now

[ntndeacon]

oh ithought we were saying poem titles :D

[Blade6119]

oh ithought we were saying poem titles :D

well played, mandarin just earned my comedy award for day 3 :)

[DaddyTorgo]

He mentioned it early today, though i dont know if hes still sold on that route. He said he would clear you tonight in return if i remember...might have just been posturing though. Make no mistake about it if your asking dt, im not a bodyguard and im not protecting you tonight. I get that vibe, so let me put that to rest right now

lol alright blade.


sack, check the last 10 minutes of posts or so...

[SackAttack]

I've been watching the thread develop since the lynch.

[DaddyTorgo]

wondering if you were still planning on doing whatever it was you were going to do tonight?

[DaddyTorgo]

if you care to share. i'm just trying to figure out what to do with my energy...

[SackAttack]

I haven't decided yet.

I'm trying to get a feel for things before I submit my night action.

[SackAttack]

if you care to share. i'm just trying to figure out what to do with my energy...

I don't know.

I'm thinking about that as well, which is partly why I haven't decided what to do. I see a few possible scenarios.

1) I don't visit you, you scan but don't broadcast, you aren't targeted for death because they want to put doubt on you. You get a name, and while I trust you - and others trust you - there may be enough doubt that we don't get a lynch on that name.

2) I don't visit you, you scan/don't broadcast, you die. We've lost you and gained nothing valuable.

3) I visit you, you scan/broadcast, they kill you - we get a name, and I can either vouch for you or not, which influences the name.

4) I visit you, you scan/broadcast (is that only if you're killed? Do you lose the energy in either event?), you don't die. We have you for another night and possibly another scan.

[DaddyTorgo]

the broadcast thing is like...a tripwire. like a "in case of death i want to spend my last energy sending this out to someone" kinda thing. " so i have to have the energy to do it.

scanning i will do either way. option 2+4 are what i want to avoid.

[SackAttack]

What's wrong with option 4? If you don't die, then wouldn't you retain your tripwire energy?

Just trying to understand the concept.

[SackAttack]

Seems to me like 1+4 are the 'good' options and 2+3 are the 'bad' options. But maybe I'm misreading.

[Mr. Wednesday]

There was no case. It is just blind attacking.
Not true. In the face of a fairly reasonable positive case for the Professor, you've been attacking him nonstop. I realize it's not conclusive, but it doesn't sit well with me. You'll have to make a real case if you want to convince anyone.

[DaddyTorgo]

What's wrong with option 4? If you don't die, then wouldn't you retain your tripwire energy?

Just trying to understand the concept.

no. the energy is expended either way, because i havn't exactly described it exactly perfect for obvious reasons.

[SackAttack]

no. the energy is expended either way, because i havn't exactly described it exactly perfect for obvious reasons.

Okay. That makes more sense then.

That's why I didn't understand - not knowing whether the energy was getting expended in case 4.

[Blade6119]

no. the energy is expended either way, because i havn't exactly described it exactly perfect for obvious reasons.

Are you trying to tell us something lassie, come on boy! Spit it out! :p

[DaddyTorgo]

i don't want to say too much sack. but trust me when i say which options are good/bad. and that the energy is expended either way

[SackAttack]

Understood, Professor.

[DaddyTorgo]

i don't consider my death a negative either, because with the broadcast you will get one more good name to add to a shrinking pool of The 12. so that's why #3 isn't bad. :D

[SackAttack]

Well, if you hit on a good guy, and I'm able to vouch for you, that's cool - expands the circle of trust - but doesn't demonstratively help us find the Horsemen and then we lose you for the game.

So you may not consider it 'bad,' but it's not all peaches and cream, either.

[DaddyTorgo]

good guys are all that i hit on

[WVUFAN]

{ooc}

sorry, was playing WoW with the new FOFC Guild. Will be much more active, assuming I live that long. :-)

[DaddyTorgo]

Well, if you hit on a good guy, and I'm able to vouch for you, that's cool - expands the circle of trust - but doesn't demonstratively help us find the Horsemen and then we lose you for the game.

So you may not consider it 'bad,' but it's not all peaches and cream, either.

it'd be peaches and cream :D

[Blade6119]

good guys are all that i hit on

The unintentional humor in that is just too priceless :D :D :D :D :D

[DaddyTorgo]

The unintentional humor in that is just too priceless :D :D :D :D :D

oh i knew that as i posted it. i contemplated clarifying but figured it'd be funny for someone to use in their sig, like the DC line from the JtR game;)

[SackAttack]

{ooc}

sorry, was playing WoW with the new FOFC Guild. Will be much more active, assuming I live that long. :-)

Doom would abandon the world to play WoW?

We're fucked.

[DaddyTorgo]

hahaha SA

[Blade6119]

This game is prob. the funniest game ive played in quite some time...I want to thank all of you for making it so fun

[SackAttack]

{OOC}

I'm bound for bed, all, but I'll be up early'ish tomorrow morning, and around all day.

{/OOC}

[DaddyTorgo]

{OOC}

I'm bound for bed, all, but I'll be up early'ish tomorrow morning, and around all day.

{/OOC}

alright SA.

[DaddyTorgo]

u comin over tonight SA?

[DaddyTorgo]

ya know what...you don't hafta. it's all good.

[WVUFAN]

Doom would abandon the world to play WoW?

We're fucked.

Awesome. :)

[Raiders Army]

If they *didn't* use him as a distraction, and he's a Horseman, then I owe Deadpool an apology for attacking him tonight.
*Deadpool*

You owe my an apology regardless. If you're gonna come at me, COME AT ME.






Captain Ameri-pansy.

[Poli]

FWIW, I didn't like your play on Doom, but I liked it on Jugger.

DD

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Enough of this $#!T! I'm with Wolvy. I don't trust Doom and I don't trust Professor X. There was something there between them.

ATTACK DOOM

[Poli]

*Deadpool*

Enough of this $#!T! I'm with Wolvy. I don't trust Doom and I don't trust Professor X. There was something there between them.

ATTACK DOOM


Umm, night actions have been revealed.


DD

[hoopsguy]

The forces of good are not sure where to turn after it is revealed that Hawkeye was also a member of the Twelve. The prevailing theories of the last two days are now in tatters - where to turn next? Who can stop the evil of Apocalypse from spreading, if not the twenty gathered here at the start of this conflict?

Two more fall on this night, as the sounds of conflict ring out across the ship. Captain America is the first on the scene, just in time to watch Apocalypse teleport away. The body of Warpath, who seems to be missing most of his torso, also shimmers and disappears. He was another of the Twelve!

But could the tide be turning? A search for Captain Marvel reveals that she was slain in her quarters - her transparent form appears to have had the life sucked from it. Given the opportunity to search the body and her quarters, you learn that she was in fact a Horseman of Apocalypse!!!

Day 4 has begun.

[Alan T]

Good luck good guys.

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"Well well well...a vigilante got Cap'n Mar-vel! I do recall several of us talwkin about her as be-ing under the radar, no? Iz time to do some research on her words, and perhaps find some more of theze horsemen and their leader"

[Poli]

NICE! Sorry to lose you Warpath. :(

DD

[Raiders Army]

Umm, night actions have been revealed.


DD

Oh, my bad. I got my night PM and thought the night was over. Going to work now.

[hoopsguy]

Deadpool, I'm not going to count the attack before results were posted. If you still wish to attack Dr. Doom please re-post it.

[DaddyTorgo]

woke up early to read my pm and report.

apparently I was awake when apoc attacked warpath and I tried to figure out his identity but couldn't.

however I did learn that gambit is one of the 12.

havnt read yet...has anyone owned up to killing marvel?

[Poli]

woke up early to read my pm and report.

apparently I was awake when apoc attacked warpath and I tried to figure out his identity but couldn't.

however I did learn that gambit is one of the 12.

havnt read yet...has anyone owned up to killing marvel?
No.

DD

[Poli]

woke up early to read my pm and report.

apparently I was awake when apoc attacked warpath and I tried to figure out his identity but couldn't.

however I did learn that gambit is one of the 12.

havnt read yet...has anyone owned up to killing marvel?
No.


DD

:)

[Poli]

Glad you're still with us.

DD

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Good job whomever took out Marvel. Saved us from having to go after her today. The attack against Warpath surprises me, though. I figured the Horsemen would have kept him around a little bit longer since we usually think the longer he's in play the better chance he's evil. I guess he hit on something yesterday and they decided he had to go.

SPIDER-MAN

[Thomkal]

(Cannonball)

:::turns green when he hears the sickening noise Hawkeye's body makes as he rammed into him and the sight of his battered bloodied body:::

"Ah think I'm gonna be sick! And then to lose our teammate Warpath too! My thanks to whichever one of you were smarter than me and figured out Captain Marvel was a Horsemen, but then you are all smarter than me."

I have to say Warpath seems an odd choice at this point in the game. Not a bad choice for the evils to take out because of his contributions, but they probably could have pinned the death of Hawkeye on him pretty nicely. And they left Professor X alive to reveal another of the 12. We will certainly miss you Alan.

[DaddyTorgo]

I am too. and I managed to conserve my energy.

makes me realize I should have asked for company tonight not last night. but...full disclosure here...I wasn't totally honest about the "tripwire" thing. it wasn't a "mental tripwire" taking up that energy. it was my illusion of myself....which if it is attacked will tell me who the attacker was and protect me.

I was trying to lay a lil trap for evil to double up on our info, but I guess I have made myself too much "to be protected" that it wasn't going to work. regardless...I now have the energy to cast both again tonight, unless the capn or someone else is able to come and hang out in my quarters again to allow me to conserve.

[DaddyTorgo]

of to work. will pop on during my long-break

[Thomkal]

I am too. and I managed to conserve my energy.

makes me realize I should have asked for company tonight not last night. but...full disclosure here...I wasn't totally honest about the "tripwire" thing. it wasn't a "mental tripwire" taking up that energy. it was my illusion of myself....which if it is attacked will tell me who the attacker was and protect me.

I was trying to lay a lil trap for evil to double up on our info, but I guess I have made myself too much "to be protected" that it wasn't going to work. regardless...I now have the energy to cast both again tonight, unless the capn or someone else is able to come and hang out in my quarters again to allow me to conserve.

Didn't you do your illusion trick the night Mr. Sinister died?

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

I had the night to sleep it off and I'm going to give this one last shot. Instead of storming around with my claws in a bunch, I'm going to try being diplomatic.

Who is with me on attacking Doom? I've already given my reasons.

[Bonegavel]

The forces of good are not sure where to turn after it is revealed that Hawkeye was also a member of the Twelve. The prevailing theories of the last two days are now in tatters - where to turn next? Who can stop the evil of Apocalypse from spreading, if not the twenty gathered here at the start of this conflict?

Two more fall on this night, as the sounds of conflict ring out across the ship. Captain America is the first on the scene, just in time to watch Apocalypse teleport away. The body of Warpath, who seems to be missing most of his torso, also shimmers and disappears. He was another of the Twelve!

But could the tide be turning? A search for Captain Marvel reveals that she was slain in her quarters - her transparent form appears to have had the life sucked from it. Given the opportunity to search the body and her quarters, you learn that she was in fact a Horseman of Apocalypse!!!

Day 4 has begun.

Any more info on the body of Marvel?

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"I believe since Mar-vel did attack Hulk, that I would discount Hulk bein' a fox in the henhouse, no?"

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"Aye ahm still stunned ze Juggernaut lives and breathes...is he not to be suspected?"

[Bonegavel]

(Gambit)

"I believe since Mar-vel did attack Hulk, that I would discount Hulk bein' a fox in the henhouse, no?"

This is most likely true. Whomever she attacked is likely good.

[Qwikshot]

This is most likely true. Whomever she attacked is likely good.

OOC: Completely OOC Bonegavel, I bought a new house and will be moving to Hellertown in the summer.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

It would obviously be nicer if the rules stated that the 4HotA couldn't attack each other (since they could attack each other safely and hide one another), but I'm just a paranoid, black-helicopter believing, nutty mutant.

[Bonegavel]

OOC: Completely OOC Bonegavel, I bought a new house and will be moving to Hellertown in the summer.

(ooc)wow, that is close to my work in Bethlehem. Get a job up here? :)(/ooc)

[Thomkal]

(Gambit)

"I believe since Mar-vel did attack Hulk, that I would discount Hulk bein' a fox in the henhouse, no?"

(Cannonball)

"Not entirely Remy. While it looks better for him, I would not put in past the Horsemen to attack one of their own, especially with the small amount of damage Marvel seemingly did to him. He probably didn't even feel it."

[Qwikshot]

(ooc)wow, that is close to my work in Bethlehem. Get a job up here? :)(/ooc)

ooc Still working in Lansdale, but it was an offer I couldn't refuse...my friends live right in Bethlehem, and my daughter and ex-gf live on East Linden St in Allentown, my daughter goes to Ritter right near the State Hospital.

[Qwikshot]

(Cannonball)

"Not entirely Remy. While it looks better for him, I would not put in past the Horsemen to attack one of their own, especially with the small amount of damage Marvel seemingly did to him. He probably didn't even feel it."

(Gambit)

"Thiz iz true, but it was so out of the blue. Miz Mar-vel implicated Jugger but on-lee in name, then rushed to attack ze Hulk. Should ze Juggernaut be above suspicion az well?"

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
Good to see that we got one.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
I think that in consideration of Capt. Marvel's failure to attack Juggernaut, he must still be considered a suspect.

The only thing that gives me pause is the massive amount of damage directed at him yesterday. Is that heroes, or villains, wanting him dead?

[Bonegavel]

ooc Still working in Lansdale, but it was an offer I couldn't refuse...my friends live right in Bethlehem, and my daughter and ex-gf live on East Linden St in Allentown, my daughter goes to Ritter right near the State Hospital.

(ooc) Ah, cool. I live on the western edge of Allentown (it's actually macungie, but I guess that's not good enough :)) close to the turnpike way out tilghman street. (/ooc)

[Qwikshot]

(Mathemanic)
I think that in consideration of Capt. Marvel's failure to attack Juggernaut, he must still be considered a suspect.

The only thing that gives me pause is the massive amount of damage directed at him yesterday. Is that heroes, or villains, wanting him dead?

(Gambit)

"I did use much of my cahrds...and Hawkeye did assist as well with his final attack. Just not enough to fry him like a crawfish. I still suspect him."

[SackAttack]

I'm glad somebody nailed one of the horsemen.

Glad also to see that the weird vibe she was putting out all game was more than just "Oh, I didn't know how to play my character." I feel better about my instincts now than I did 24 hours ago.

On the other hand, I saw Apocalypse kill Warpath last night, and after he did, he told me "This is not your night to be tested, Captain America." Then he vanished.

I'm a little shaken.

[Qwikshot]

Deadpool, Magneto and Warpath are the first three to attack Hawkeye today. Incidentally they were in the top four Gramm suggested yesterday.


(Gambit)

"Mar-vel tries to allude to zees three, after the death of Hawkeye."

[Grammaticus]

(Gambit)

"Thiz iz true, but it was so out of the blue. Miz Mar-vel implicated Jugger but on-lee in name, then rushed to attack ze Hulk. Should ze Juggernaut be above suspicion az well?"

No, this is a common wolfish tactic. To point the finger of suspicion at someone as you vote someone else. It tells more about the person doing it than who they point at. Although it does not lift any suspicion off Jugg, in my mind.

[Qwikshot]

28 damage and still alive...damn he had a lot of health, as being the top damage reciever we only had to take him to 0, no?


(Gambit)

"Because you attacked Mar-vel last night, I am placing you in my trust list for now."

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"Because you attacked Mar-vel last night, I am placing you in my trust list for now."

(Gambit)

"I do not me last night as in last night, but during our day action"

OOC: clarification

[Qwikshot]

ooc: Gambit means during the attacks in the day, Moon Knight attacked Marvel. Gambit has no information as to what occurred during the evening and who was responsible for disposing of Marvel. Apologies.

[SackAttack]

I am too. and I managed to conserve my energy.

makes me realize I should have asked for company tonight not last night. but...full disclosure here...I wasn't totally honest about the "tripwire" thing. it wasn't a "mental tripwire" taking up that energy. it was my illusion of myself....which if it is attacked will tell me who the attacker was and protect me.

I was trying to lay a lil trap for evil to double up on our info, but I guess I have made myself too much "to be protected" that it wasn't going to work. regardless...I now have the energy to cast both again tonight, unless the capn or someone else is able to come and hang out in my quarters again to allow me to conserve.

I believe this. It meshes with what happened to me last night.

[Barkeep49]

(Gambit)

"Mar-vel tries to allude to zees three, after the death of Hawkeye."
And I know two of the three to be innocent.

[path12]

(Gambit)

"I believe since Mar-vel did attack Hulk, that I would discount Hulk bein' a fox in the henhouse, no?"

(Silver Surfer)

I don't think we can discount anything. She might have been trying to get herself some trust. After all, her attack on Hulk wasn't going to kill him.

[LoneStarGirl]

...Bastards! I want to still play. I wish Marvel could be reincarnated

[SackAttack]

Warpath bit it, so we KNOW he's innocent.

I'm guessing you know yourself to be the other, Magneto.

[Barkeep49]

Warpath bit it, so we KNOW he's innocent.

I'm guessing you know yourself to be the other, Magneto.
Correct.

[Qwikshot]

(Silver Surfer)

I don't think we can discount anything. She might have been trying to get herself some trust. After all, her attack on Hulk wasn't going to kill him.


(Gambit)

"Theese is true. And ze Hulk did not retaliate against Mar-vel, but rather, attacked Wolverine, who waz not even attacking heem. Perhaps, I waz wrong to attack ze Juggernaut?!?"

[path12]

(Gambit)

"Theese is true. And ze Hulk did not retaliate against Mar-vel, but rather, attacked Wolverine, who waz not even attacking heem. Perhaps, I waz wrong to attack ze Juggernaut?!?"

(Silver Surfer)

I understood the reasoning for a move on Juggernaut -- he was pushing very hard and was suspicious. My concern involves more the timing of the attacks (late in the day after he was gone) and causes me to wonder if there might have been a horseman or two in that bandwagon.......

[SackAttack]

(Silver Surfer)

I understood the reasoning for a move on Juggernaut -- he was pushing very hard and was suspicious. My concern involves more the timing of the attacks (late in the day after he was gone) and causes me to wonder if there might have been a horseman or two in that bandwagon.......

You can spin it both ways. Waiting until after he's gone also helps make sure that he can't use his strength to retaliate at somebody who's attacking him.

Just a thought.

[Qwikshot]

Post #2007 (1:17PM) Deadpool attacks Hawkeye (grenade)
Post #2069 (4:51PM) Wolverine attacks Doom (claws)
Post #2085 (5:02PM) Hulk attacks Wolverine (fist)
Post #2120 (5:41PM) Magneto attacks Hawkeye (magnetic pulse)
Post #2122 (5:47PM) Warpath attacks Hawkeye (knife)
Post #2124 (5:58PM) Mandarin attacks Hawkeye (ring - fire)
Post #2142 (6:27PM) Marvel attacks Hulk (energy blast)
Post #2173 (7:05PM) Gambit attacks Juggernaut (cards)
Post #2190 (7:25PM) Hawkeye attacks Juggernaut (explosive arrow, normal arrow)
Post #2198 (7:42PM) Mathemanic attacks Juggernaut (mental attack)
Post #2211 (8:11PM) Cannonball attacks Hawkeye (rocket blast)
Post #2212 (8:11PM) Surfer attacks Hawkeye (power cosmic)
Post #2214 (8:14PM) Moon Knight attacks Captain Marvel (dart)
Post #2218 (8:22PM) Spiderman attacks Hawkeye (punch)
Post #2226 (8:34PM) Venom attacks Hawkeye (special attack - sneak attack)
Post #2230 (8:40PM) Captain America attacks Deadpool (shield)
Post #2236 (8:50PM) Juggernaut attacks Hawkeye (fist)
Post #2252 (8:59PM) Daredevil attacks Juggernaut (club)

(Gambit)

"Whom do you suspect then? One iz dead and proven good. I felt the argument stated was worthy to attack heem. I knew that Hawkeye was done for, but I suspected him to be good and wanted to assist in at least going after someone else, someone actually worthy of justice?"

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Last night I went back over the forming of the teams on the first day, and I'm sorry to say that I think it's a dead end for now. My first idea was that the wolves would be eager to form a team and would be leading in the call for that. In the case of Marvel that is true. But Warpath and Hawkeye were also adamant in forming teams and they were good.

My other idea was to look at those who were among the last to join teams. While this includes Juggernaut (unsure of his allegiance), it also includes Gambit, whom Professor X cleared today, and Hulk, whom I vouch for.

All I can take from this is that Apoc. and the gang did a good job in altering their tactics the first day. It might be worth something to look at this again after we find another Horseman, but for now, I don't think it gives us anything.

SPIDER-MAN

[path12]

(Gambit)

"Whom do you suspect then? One iz dead and proven good. I felt the argument stated was worthy to attack heem. I knew that Hawkeye was done for, but I suspected him to be good and wanted to assist in at least going after someone else, someone actually worthy of justice?"

(Silver Surfer)

Reading back through that changes my mind somewhat. I had thought that there were more attacks on him for some reason. That sequence doesn't look that bad offhand.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Pre-defense damage for today:

Juggernaut - 28
Hawkeye - 13.5
Wolverine - 3
Deadpool - 1
Cappy Marvel - 1
Dr. Doom - 1


Why is Hulk missing from this list? Even if he didn't take any damage, shouldn't the attack against him by Marvel still show up?

SPIDER-MAN

[hoopsguy]

Jonathan, you are correct. Hulk took one point of pre-defense damage from Captain Marvel. Sorry that we did not have it on the list.

[Blade6119]

Interesting night...awaiting some clarification on what i saw, but very interesting information was gleaned.

[SackAttack]

Why is Hulk missing from this list? Even if he didn't take any damage, shouldn't the attack against him by Marvel still show up?

SPIDER-MAN

I have the strangest feeling of deja vu.

[SackAttack]

Jonathan, you are correct. Hulk took one point of pre-defense damage from Captain Marvel. Sorry that we did not have it on the list.

Is this the first time that's happened? I could swear I remember seeing another post almost identical to Spidey's earlier in the game.

[hoopsguy]

Is this the first time that's happened? I could swear I remember seeing another post almost identical to Spidey's earlier in the game.

Is it the first time there has been someone missing on the damage report? I think so, but would have to go back and look at posts to be 100% certain.

[SackAttack]

Is it the first time there has been someone missing on the damage report? I think so, but would have to go back and look at posts to be 100% certain.

Like you, I'd have to go back and look to be 100% certain, but I got the strangest feeling of deja vu when I saw Spidey's post.

[Alan T]

Is it the first time there has been someone missing on the damage report? I think so, but would have to go back and look at posts to be 100% certain.


Delegate that job to Tyrith. Thats what lackeys are for!

[hoopsguy]

Delegate that job to Tyrith. Thats what lackeys are for!

You aren't Doctor Doom!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Delegate that job to Tyrith. Thats what lackeys are for!

But Tyrith is the one who left off Hulk from the damage list. ;)

[SackAttack]

Zounds!

Tyrith is Apocalypse!

[path12]

But Tyrith is the one who left off Hulk from the damage list. ;)

It's hard to get good help these days.

[Grammaticus]

(Gambit)

"Theese is true. And ze Hulk did not retaliate against Mar-vel, but rather, attacked Wolverine, who waz not even attacking heem. Perhaps, I waz wrong to attack ze Juggernaut?!?"

Also, if they were both bad HULK could privately tell Marvel that he would not take any damage due to his defense, making it a no risk and all reward action.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Silver Surfer)

I understood the reasoning for a move on Juggernaut -- he was pushing very hard and was suspicious. My concern involves more the timing of the attacks (late in the day after he was gone) and causes me to wonder if there might have been a horseman or two in that bandwagon.......

(Mathemanic)
For my part, the timing was incidental. I was trying to round up support before I made a move.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Silver Surfer)

Reading back through that changes my mind somewhat. I had thought that there were more attacks on him for some reason. That sequence doesn't look that bad offhand.

(Mathemanic)
Spidey talked about it but never went in on the attack. Captain Marvel caught part of the conversation, but did not join the attack. There was a massive amount of damage done, but I'm sure a lot of that is attributable to me powering up my attack (avowed at the time it happened), Hawkeye trying to go out in a blaze of glory, and Gambit using his own special attack.

[hoopsguy]

Just did a double-check on the damage reports:

Day 1 posted at #862
Day 2 posted at #1398

I didn't see any posts indicating missing entries for either evening after reading through the posts between damage report and "Night X" results.

[SackAttack]

Just did a double-check on the damage reports:

Day 1 posted at #862
Day 2 posted at #1398

I didn't see any posts indicating missing entries for either evening after reading through the posts between damage report and "Night X" results.

Thanks, hoops.

[Blade6119]

I have recieved confirmation on the order of events. It was NTNdeacon who killed lsg last night

[DaddyTorgo]

2 mins on my break so real quick: how about we occam's razor this instead of looking for the most complicated possibilities?

check the simple answers first...

[GoldenEagle]

Was anyone able to come forward and validate me last night? Obviously, I can not quote the exact PM, but I got the impression that I am one of the 12.

[SackAttack]

By my count, there are 18 of us left. 14 heroes, 3 horsemen and Apocalypse.

Narrowing things down for myself, here's my updated circle of trust, given recent events and last night's actions:

Absolute Trust
Myself
Captain Britain

Strong Trust
Professor X
Wolverine

Moving On Up
Moon Knight
Mandarin
Deadpool
Spider-Man

Moving Down
Doctor Doom

Distrust
Juggernaut

Uncertain of OR no strong opinion on

Mathemaniac
Daredevil
Venom
Silver Surfer
Cannonball
Storm
Magneto
Hulk

[path12]

I have recieved confirmation on the order of events. It was NTNdeacon who killed lsg last night

(Silver Surfer)

How do you know this?

[Swaggs]

I have recieved confirmation on the order of events. It was NTNdeacon who killed lsg last night

Some verification please?

[Blade6119]

(Silver Surfer)

How do you know this?

I spent last night watching LSG's house, and before i heared the mammoth blast that everyone heared NTN came quietly in the night to LSGs house, was there a short period of time, and then left. I had originally assumed he was a seer or what not, then i caught up and read that lsg was killed i knew he was evil. Then lsg came up evil, and i dont know what to think. Is it possible for evil to kill alan and lsg if we had a day lynch?

[SackAttack]

I spent last night watching LSG's house, and before i heared the mammoth blast that everyone heared NTN came quietly in the night to LSGs house, was there a short period of time, and then left. I had originally assumed he was a seer or what not, then i caught up and read that lsg was killed i knew he was evil. Then lsg came up evil, and i dont know what to think. Is it possible for evil to kill alan and lsg if we had a day lynch?

I can't imagine evil would kill one of their own. What purpose would it serve? We sure haven't rooted anybody out via the lynch.

[SackAttack]

Dola,

Unless they were dead set certain that we were going to nail Marvel today, killing her at night would have the effect of removing the target with no vote pattern to judge by...but I can't see that being the case here.

[Blade6119]

Dola,

Unless they were dead set certain that we were going to nail Marvel today, killing her at night would have the effect of removing the target with no vote pattern to judge by...but I can't see that being the case here.
Even then though, you saw apoc kill alan, right? Thats evils kill, right?

[SackAttack]

Even then though, you saw apoc kill alan, right? Thats evils kill, right?

Yeah, I saw Apocalypse blow a hole in Warhawk's chest.

This goes back a little bit to my early speculation on the golden horse with doom - that there is something that differentiates between a Horseman kill and an Apocalypse kill. I've mused once or twice about whether they can act independent of one another, but consensus seems to be that they cannot.

Apocalypse definitely killed Warhawk. If ntn took out Marvel, I'd be inclined to believe that he's probably a good character with that kind of ability, and it either has a prohibitive energy cost (which is why we haven't seen it used until now), or else he reserves it for when he has certainty.

[Swaggs]

(Storm)

At the risk of looking very bad, I still have an odd feeling about Professor X. Has he said whether or not he can tell good from evil, or just whether or not he can tell who are members of the 12 or not?

If he can only tell who members of the 12, then I feel like that is a very good defense that could last him for quite some time, good or bad. I really will not feel very safe about him until or unless he delivers us a horsemen.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
I think the idea that the other horsemen would have killed their compatriot to be completely without merit. The only way they could gain in the slightest is in the event that actually happened, where you (Moon Knight) were observing and were able to identify the attacker.

[Blade6119]

Yeah, I saw Apocalypse blow a hole in Warhawk's chest.

This goes back a little bit to my early speculation on the golden horse with doom - that there is something that differentiates between a Horseman kill and an Apocalypse kill. I've mused once or twice about whether they can act independent of one another, but consensus seems to be that they cannot.

Apocalypse definitely killed Warhawk. If ntn took out Marvel, I'd be inclined to believe that he's probably a good character with that kind of ability, and it either has a prohibitive energy cost (which is why we haven't seen it used until now), or else he reserves it for when he has certainty.
Id love to hear his side of things

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
Storm, he has indicated only that he can learn identities of the 12. He will not, then, be able to deliver us a horseman via that claimed power.

[Blade6119]

(Mathemanic)
I think the idea that the other horsemen would have killed their compatriot to be completely without merit. The only way they could gain in the slightest is in the event that actually happened, where you (Moon Knight) were observing and were able to identify the attacker.

To be fair, LSG wasnt exactly the most cleared person. They had to expect her to die soon anyways, maybe they would take that shot and hope she was watched. I could see that play, as she was on almost everyones suspect list

[Swaggs]

To be fair, LSG wasnt exactly the most cleared person. They had to expect her to die soon anyways, maybe they would take that shot and hope she was watched. I could see that play, as she was on almost everyones suspect list
(Storm)

Although anyone is fair game, I don't think Marvel was in any imminent danger today. When there are only five bad guys, I cannot see them eliminating themselvs unless they absolutely are in danger.

I had considered attacking Mandarin today, because he abruptly left our group, without explaination yesterday and I got to thinking that, if a group stays together long enough, perhaps we learn more about our teammates (and that he might not want that to happen). But if you IDed him coming from Marvel's room, he moves up my list of trust substantially.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Moon Knight, why did you decide to watch Captain Marvel's house last night?

[SackAttack]

(Storm)

At the risk of looking very bad, I still have an odd feeling about Professor X. Has he said whether or not he can tell good from evil, or just whether or not he can tell who are members of the 12 or not?

If he can only tell who members of the 12, then I feel like that is a very good defense that could last him for quite some time, good or bad. I really will not feel very safe about him until or unless he delivers us a horsemen.

I wouldn't worry about the Professor's loyalties. I didn't get confirmation quite as strong from him as I did from Captain Britain, but I believe that to be because of the illusion he was projecting in self-defense - by the time I realized what that was all about, Apocalypse had struck.

Am I 100%? No. But I trust him more than almost anybody else in this game right now.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

And to clarify, who else have you watched?

[Blade6119]

(Silver Surfer)

Moon Knight, why did you decide to watch Captain Marvel's house last night?

The same reason i voted him yesterday..someone reminded me he had been the only person really everyone suspected, the only person on the first two lynches, and seemingly the only person to garner no heat at all. It all added up to me needing to see what he was up to

[Blade6119]

She, i apoligize for the use of he there

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

A lot less pages to catch up on. Some thoughts on Professor X:

Why kill Warpath instead of Professor X? There are two possibilities: The bodyguard protected Professor X or they thought that he would be protected by the bodyguard.

I'm still going for Doom.

ATTACK DOOM

You ain't getting the full attack today pal, so count yourself lucky.

[path12]

The same reason i voted him yesterday..someone reminded me he had been the only person really everyone suspected, the only person on the first two lynches, and seemingly the only person to garner no heat at all. It all added up to me needing to see what he was up to

(Silver Surfer)

It just seems that there was a lot of people converging on her house last night and while I felt she was a suspect, I didn't have her as the prime one. You, Captain America, Warpath, Mandarin and Apocalypse all seemed to be in the same spot? I'd love to hear what Cap America and Mandarin have to say.