Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens - Game over! [Archive] - Page 4

ntndeacon

01-18-2007, 07:29 PM

HULK THINKING ABOUT LEAVING "FRIENDS". FORCE NOT HELPING HULK THINK.

IF ANYONE NEEDS HULK, SPEAK.
(Mandarin)
Certainly Hulk. As much as I hate to admit it, I wonder about my nemisis' Iron man as on of the Horsemen or that of Apocalypse himself. And this talk of Cannonball is interesting. And if he is alive after the night then icould be persuaded to go that route. I think Force should go after the third option that has been presented....
Mystique.
How amusing would it be to Apocalypse to be hiding in the guise of one who so often changes her appearence. So in line with that...

I, Mandarin, Attack Mystique with Electro Blast

A blast from my middle finger will light her up like a christmas tree.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 07:32 PM

Mystique's got me on edge. I can't do anything for Tony, but maybe I can learn something this way.

I haven't seen Captain Britain around since joining the team, and Tony's got his hands full a little bit, so it looks like I'm going to have to act unilaterally.

Attack Mystique (standard attack)

Eaglesfan27

01-18-2007, 07:33 PM

[Iron Man]

Hulk, if I somehow survive I would also welcome you to our team.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 07:44 PM

(Professor X)

Silver Moon Team happens to believe that you may be correct Iron Man, which is why we chose to focus our attention elsewhere. Additionally, a pileup on you tells us nothing and allows the forces of evil to hide easier.

However on the other hand, we have no proof that you are correct Iron Man.

(Wolverine)

But Chuck, since I know I ain't no horsedude or Apocalypto, I don't know who the good or bad is. So, I know attacking Tony is just a guess. The other non baddies should simply follow suit since we started the attack to take out somebody.

But, you start after cannonball. Why not help us take Tony down? Oh, is it because you know he is one of your boys with your jedi mind powers? I'm starting to smell something Chuck, and I think it is you.

That, or Magneto attacked Iron Man first because Mag is a bad dude and wants Richie Rich-pants taken out first. I guess we'll see tomorrow.

Try to take me down and I'll come back on you like day old tacos.

Let's hope I'm not being mind manip'd by another one of you damn Telepaths or chuck is going to make me think I'm 3 years old again and that i've just wet my pants.

Talgian

01-18-2007, 07:45 PM

(ooc)
Guys, one of my good friend's has his birthday, but none of us knew until about 20 minutes aog. In that span of time I've put in a cake in the oven, but I still have frosting and then celebrating to do. I'm really sorry about this, those of you who have played with me know I'm usually an extremely active player, so please only take this as the aberration it is. In case I don't get back this evening, I'm going to go with that seems to be the general consensus, and attack Iron Man. It's really not an indication that I think he's evil (I'm unsure), so much as I believe in a first night lynch, and he seems to be the popular option.

Attack Iron Man (standard attack)

Poli

01-18-2007, 07:47 PM

HULK THINKING ABOUT LEAVING "FRIENDS". FORCE NOT HELPING HULK THINK.

IF ANYONE NEEDS HULK, SPEAK.

Hey, green guy.

Schmidty

01-18-2007, 07:48 PM

OK. GOOD TO SEE FRIENDS. HULK LIKES IRON GUY. MANDARIN SMARTER THAN HULK, TOO.

SMASH SASSY GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATTACK (FIST) MYSTIQUE

Poli

01-18-2007, 07:49 PM

Oh boy, what have I started?

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 07:50 PM

(Wolverine)

But Chuck, since I know I ain't no horsedude or Apocalypto, I don't know who the good or bad is. So, I know attacking Tony is just a guess. The other non baddies should simply follow suit since we started the attack to take out somebody.

But, you start after cannonball. Why not help us take Tony down? Oh, is it because you know he is one of your boys with your jedi mind powers? I'm starting to smell something Chuck, and I think it is you.

That, or Magneto attacked Iron Man first because Mag is a bad dude and wants Richie Rich-pants taken out first. I guess we'll see tomorrow.

Try to take me down and I'll come back on you like day old tacos.

Let's hope I'm not being mind manip'd by another one of you damn Telepaths or chuck is going to make me think I'm 3 years old again and that i've just wet my pants.

(Professor X)

Logan, think about what you're saying. If I needed my "Jedi Mind Powers" as you call them to know that Tony was "one of my guys" then wouldn't that prove that I was indeed on the side of good?

Why should we help take Tony out? All of us ganging up on one person proves nothing and allows evil to hide in our pileup.

Schmidty

01-18-2007, 07:50 PM

Hey, green guy.

HULK SMASH BEN AFFLECK!!! GOOD WILL HUNTING OVERRATED DOODOO!!!

REAL BLIND GUY OK WITH HULK THOUGH.

Swaggs

01-18-2007, 07:51 PM

HULK THINKING ABOUT LEAVING "FRIENDS". FORCE NOT HELPING HULK THINK.

IF ANYONE NEEDS HULK, SPEAK.

(Storm)

I've got your back. I wasn't planning on making any attacks today, but if anyone tries to attack our group, it is on.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 07:57 PM

exactly. it seems clear Iron Man will be leaving us today and not you cannonball

You underestimate Iron Man, Doom surmises. Unless someone attacks him with greater force, Doom thinks he will survive. Seeing how Doom still do not believe him to be a Horseman, it is good he will survive. We will need his power in the coming days.

Poli

01-18-2007, 08:00 PM

HULK SMASH BEN AFFLECK!!! GOOD WILL HUNTING OVERRATED DOODOO!!!

REAL BLIND GUY OK WITH HULK THOUGH.

I never saw it, I couldn't tell you.

Thomkal

01-18-2007, 08:01 PM

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:01 PM

(Professor X)

Logan, think about what you're saying. If I needed my "Jedi Mind Powers" as you call them to know that Tony was "one of my guys" then wouldn't that prove that I was indeed on the side of good?

Why should we help take Tony out? All of us ganging up on one person proves nothing and allows evil to hide in our pileup.

(Wolverine)

Damn you Chuck. Always were smarter than me.

But don't make me slice open your big bald beautiful head. You would make a great foot soldier for Evil since you would be able to keep mutants like me in line and not question your logic. I hope you aren't screwing with what little god gave me upstairs.

Where's Jean when you need her?

LoneStarGirl

01-18-2007, 08:05 PM

Professor, why are you calling these people Logan and Tony and Chuck? Who the hell are you talking about?! Call them by their powerful names!

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:05 PM

You underestimate Iron Man, Doom surmises. Unless someone attacks him with greater force, Doom thinks he will survive. Seeing how Doom still do not believe him to be a Horseman, it is good he will survive. We will need his power in the coming days.

(Professor X)

I hope I do underestimate Iron Man frankly. I think that Eric was wrong to lead an attack on him so quickly, although I of course have no evidence to back that up.

Honestly, if I had to name a list of suspects at this point, Iron Man would be near the bottom. And yes, there are some people who have caused me to do a doubletake.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 08:08 PM

: okay I realize I may not be the one to go tonight, but there is still the possibility. We can only guess what these various powers will do to us. sorry for the bitching.

Well this brings up the interesting dilemna of whether I should attack Iron Man again to help prevent my own lynch.

Post #448 (1:33PM) Magneto attacks IronMan (magnetic blast) and Impedes IronMan (special attack)
Post #450 (1:35PM) Mystique attacks IronMan (gun)
Post #459 (1:46PM) Warpath attacks IronMan (knife)
Post #532 (2:27PM) Doom attacks Magneto (mystic blast)
Post #559 (2:47PM) Hawkeye attacks Iron Man (Acid Arrow - special attack)
Post #560 (2:48PM) Marvel attacks Iron Man (energy blast)
Post #561 (2:48PM) Cannonball attacks Iron Man (collision)
Post #562 (2:48PM) Daredevil attacks Mystique (billy club)
Post #584 (3:00PM) IronMan Energy Absorbtion (defense power)
Post #584 (3:00PM) IronMan attacks Magneto (repulsor blast)
Post #660 (4:27PM) Wolverine attacks IronMan (claws)
Post #695 (5:44PM) Prof X attacks Cannonball (psionic blast)
Post #697 (5:48PM) Moon Knight attacks Cannonball (crescent dart)
Post #699 (5:53PM) Math attacks Cannonball (psionic blast)
Post #701 (5:54PM) Surfer attacks Cannonball (power cosmic)
Post #711 (6:05PM) Spiderman attacks Iron Man (fist)

Add to that my attack on Mystique and Hulk's attack on Mystique.

Seven attacks on Tony. Four attacks on you. Four attacks on Mystique.

No possibility for a switch on any of those, although any of those attackers could add a second attack, if they so chose.

Unless your health is awfully low, I think attacking Tony a second time to protect yourself is going to be a waste both of an attack on Tony and of your own energy.

Whether or not Tony is good - and I believe he is - the important thing is that if you are also good, we cannot afford to have you expend such energy as you have in unnecessary avenues.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:09 PM

Professor, why are you calling these people Logan and Tony and Chuck? Who the hell are you talking about?! Call them by their powerful names!

Logan = Wolverine
Chuck = Professor X (Charles Xavier)
Tony = Iron Man (Tony Stark)
Eric = Magneto (Eric Lensherr)

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 08:10 PM

Professor, why are you calling these people Logan and Tony and Chuck? Who the hell are you talking about?! Call them by their powerful names!

One's true name has more power than you realize. Why do you think so many superheroes operate under an alias?

Blade6119

01-18-2007, 08:10 PM

Gambit is still outstanding, and if he votes you thomkal we will get a team bonus is out attack..remember that

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:11 PM

Well this brings up the interesting dilemna of whether I should attack Iron Man again to help prevent my own lynch.

You attacking someone else may not save you. If enough energy is released, we could lynch more than 1 "hero" here.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:12 PM

(Wolverine)

Damn you Chuck. Always were smarter than me.

But don't make me slice open your big bald beautiful head. You would make a great foot soldier for Evil since you would be able to keep mutants like me in line and not question your logic. I hope you aren't screwing with what little god gave me upstairs.

Where's Jean when you need her?

(Professor X)

Logan (Wolverine ;) ), you of all my old friends should know me and know that the power of my mind is enough that not even Apocalypse could cause me to do something against my will and bring harm to innocents. As long as you are on the side of good and rightousness Logan, as I taught you it is right to be, you will have nothing to worry about from me.

I miss Jean as well Logan. I was hoping she would be joining us, as her and I would have made an nearly invincible team for good against Apocalypse.

ntndeacon

01-18-2007, 08:13 PM

(Storm)

I've got your back. I wasn't planning on making any attacks today, but if anyone tries to attack our group, it is on.

(Mandarin)
I am glad to have the support such as it is... And i love how you are willing for others to get thier hands dirty, but won't get your own. Stand with us. We may be wrong, but we will have at least stood together.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:14 PM

(Professor X)

Logan (Wolverine ;) ), you of all my old friends should know me and know that the power of my mind is enough that not even Apocalypse could cause me to do something against my will and bring harm to innocents. As long as you are on the side of good and rightousness Logan, as I taught you it is right to be, you will have nothing to worry about from me.

I miss Jean as well Logan. I was hoping she would be joining us, as her and I would have made an nearly invincible team for good against Apocalypse.

For all our sakes, Professor... I hope you're right.

GoldenEagle

01-18-2007, 08:15 PM

(Juggernaut)

I too hope that Ironman survives. I am not in favor of a lynch of Ironman. However, I do feel an attack is warranted. Mystique has been suspicious to me throughout the game. I favor an attack on him.

ATTACK MYSTIQUE (STANDARD)

Swaggs

01-18-2007, 08:15 PM

One's true name has more power than you realize. Why do you think so many superheroes operate under an alias?

I'm just glad that people have not started calling me by Storm's real name. :)

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:15 PM

(Storm)

I've got your back. I wasn't planning on making any attacks today, but if anyone tries to attack our group, it is on.

FOOL!

This statement is dangerous in so many ways. Very, very foolish.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:16 PM

For all our sakes, Professor... I hope you're right.

(Professor X)

I know I am right about myself Logan. I can only hope that I am right about you too, as you would be a powerful ally, either for good or for evil.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:17 PM

FOOL!

This statement is dangerous in so many ways. Very, very foolish.

(Professor X)

Yet again, you and I agree Doom. My eyebrows were raised by this statement as well.

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 08:19 PM

Updated with about 45 minutes to deadline:

Post #448 (1:33PM) Magneto attacks IronMan (magnetic blast) and Impedes IronMan (special attack)
Post #450 (1:35PM) Mystique attacks IronMan (gun)
Post #459 (1:46PM) Warpath attacks IronMan (knife)
Post #532 (2:27PM) Doom attacks Magneto (mystic blast)
Post #559 (2:47PM) Hawkeye attacks Iron Man (Acid Arrow - special attack)
Post #560 (2:48PM) Captain Marvel attacks Iron Man (energy blast)
Post #561 (2:48PM) Cannonball attacks Iron Man (collision)
Post #562 (2:48PM) Daredevil attacks Mystique (billy club)
Post #584 (3:00PM) IronMan Energy Absorbtion (defense power)
Post #584 (3:00PM) IronMan attacks Magneto (repulsor blast)
Post #660 (4:27PM) Wolverine attacks IronMan (claws)
Post #695 (5:44PM) Prof X attacks Cannonball (psionic blast)
Post #697 (5:48PM) Moon Knight attacks Cannonball (crescent dart)
Post #699 (5:53PM) Math attacks Cannonball (psionic blast)
Post #701 (5:54PM) Surfer attacks Cannonball (power cosmic)
Post #711 (6:05PM) Spiderman attacks Iron Man (fist)
Post #755 (7:29PM) Mandarin attacks Mystique (ring - electric)
Post #756 (7:32PM) Captain America attacks Mystique (shield bash)
Post #759 (7:45PM) Mr. Sinister attacks Iron Man (psionic blast)
Post #761 (7:48PM) Hulk attacks Mystique (meaty green fist)

GoldenEagle

01-18-2007, 08:19 PM

(Juggernaut)

By the way, I should say that I am not one for violence after what happened to Sammy. However sometimes the use of the force is necessary. This is a time where I felt it needed to be used, both to avoid the loss of energy and to avoid suspicion of not attacking anyone on Day 1.

01-18-2007, 08:21 PM

occ: i'm new so I hope I'm doing this correctly...

Captain Britian: Project forcefield -> Ironman

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:21 PM

{OOC}
Swaggs, note I wasn't calling you foolish -- just role-playing, and making a point that blindly following a team's lead may not be a good thing.

Just wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't being personal. :-)

{/OOC}

Alan T

01-18-2007, 08:23 PM

As I count as of hoops' last post, its:

Ironman - 9 (defense power)
Magneto - 2
Mystique - 4
Canonball - 4

I assume Iron man's defense power does some kind of repulse of the next attack(s), or adds some extra health (1-3?). So looks like as things stand right now we won't have a lynch today.

Swaggs

01-18-2007, 08:23 PM

(Mandarin)
I am glad to have the support such as it is... And i love how you are willing for others to get thier hands dirty, but won't get your own. Stand with us. We may be wrong, but we will have at least stood together.

(Storm)

You are entitled to your opinion.

Consider that your powers and mine are vastly different. I gave away a significant clue as to mine. If you do not wish to be in league with me, arrangentments can certainly be made.

path12

01-18-2007, 08:23 PM

(Silver Surfer)

I can't help but notice that the attacks on Mystique (other than Daredevils) came after she stated her absence for a time. Coincidence?

LoneStarGirl

01-18-2007, 08:24 PM

that is only 19, so 6 people have left to attack alant

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:24 PM

ooooh, interesting twist by gi. looks like EF27 may have a chance still!

Alan T

01-18-2007, 08:25 PM

(Silver Surfer)

I can't help but notice that the attacks on Mystique (other than Daredevils) came after she stated her absence for a time. Coincidence?

(warpath)

I noticed that as well as I noticed it seemed like everyone was either out to lynch Ironman or go after people on my team (Magneto, Mystique, Cannonball). I'm not sure exactly what to make of that, but right now I'm starting to wonder who exactly knows what is going on here.

Abe Sargent

01-18-2007, 08:25 PM

(Silver Surfer)

I can't help but notice that the attacks on Mystique (other than Daredevils) came after she stated her absence for a time. Coincidence?

Hmmm...good thinkin shiny. You may be right to point that out.

-Hawkeye

path12

01-18-2007, 08:25 PM

ooooh, interesting twist by gi. looks like EF27 may have a chance still!

thank you...thank you...

Alan T

01-18-2007, 08:26 PM

that is only 19, so 6 people have left to attack alant

(warpath) people also have the option of doing double attacks too. I wasn't as much indicating that things were done as much as not sure if people are going to take us to a lynch. A few people have indicated they aren't interested in seeing a lynch today.

Swaggs

01-18-2007, 08:26 PM

(Storm)

Those that question my actions, or lack thereof, should broaden your minds as to what others's capabilities may be. Your shortsighted reliance on inflicting physical damage could very well leave you vulnerable.

ntndeacon

01-18-2007, 08:27 PM

(Silver Surfer)

I can't help but notice that the attacks on Mystique (other than Daredevils) came after she stated her absence for a time. Coincidence?

(Mandarin)

I can speak but for myself when I say...What better time to strike than when they cannot see the assault. it will be much more effective that way. However If iwas to wait until she got back from bowling I would not have attacked at all. and that is certainly a waste of a day.

Alan T

01-18-2007, 08:27 PM

There could be extra energy put into some of those attacks, I believe. I don't know if we can make any assumptions yet.

(warpath)

I will find it fairly odd if people exert much extra points into today's actions other than to save a teammate. Especially without cause. I don't have any problem with what Captain Britian did for instance.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 08:29 PM

(Silver Surfer)

I can't help but notice that the attacks on Mystique (other than Daredevils) came after she stated her absence for a time. Coincidence?

An attack is so much more final in this game than it might otherwise be in another Werewolf game, so it does make a certain amount of sense that some of us would choose not to blindly lash out right away.

Could there be a Horseman or Apocalypse hiding in that group? Sure, just as there could be in the pile-on against Tony.

But I think it's much more difficult to ascribe devious motives to the timing of a vote, given the existing rules setup, than in another game.

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 08:29 PM

Gambit checking in real quick. I'm going to start running through what's been posted today. But if anyone wants to give me a rundown, that would be good, too. Vote coming soon.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:29 PM

thank you...thank you...

although, did you read your forcefield power closely? is that going to be effective, or does it only work on attacks made after you declare the forcefield?

path12

01-18-2007, 08:30 PM

(warpath)

I will find it fairly odd if people exert much extra points into today's actions other than to save a teammate. Especially without cause. I don't have any problem with what Captain Britian did for instance.

(Silver Surfer)

Are we not limited to a certain amount of energy at any given time? That was my understanding. Or can you stockpile? For instance, if one had 10 energy and just used 1, and then recovered 3 overnight would they have 12 or cap at 10?

01-18-2007, 08:31 PM

although, did you read your forcefield power closely? is that going to be effective, or does it only work on attacks made after you declare the forcefield?

I did what I could, when I could. Let the chips fall...learning curve and all...

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:31 PM

Gambit checking in real quick. I'm going to start running through what's been posted today. But if anyone wants to give me a rundown, that would be good, too. Vote coming soon.

the rundown is as such: the rest of our team has attacked cannonball. iron man is the leader in terms of having attacks on him, but he has also had some defensive powers used against him. mystique has been attacked by several people as well.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:33 PM

CR...look at post #785 . It's hoops' latest rundown of the attacks

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 08:33 PM

(Silver Surfer)

Are we not limited to a certain amount of energy at any given time? That was my understanding. Or can you stockpile? For instance, if one had 10 energy and just used 1, and then recovered 3 overnight would they have 12 or cap at 10?

Energy doesn't cap. Only health does.

Poli

01-18-2007, 08:33 PM

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 08:33 PM

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 08:33 PM

the rundown is as such: the rest of our team has attacked cannonball. iron man is the leader in terms of having attacks on him, but he has also had some defensive powers used against him. mystique has been attacked by several people as well.

Should I attack Cannonball as well then? Or have you done enough damage that we can conserve my energy?

Any reason why these particular X Men have drawn attacks?

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:35 PM

Tyrith

01-18-2007, 08:35 PM

ntndeacon

01-18-2007, 08:35 PM

Should I attack Cannonball as well then? Or have you done enough damage that we can conserve my energy?

Any reason why these particular X Men have drawn attacks?

Is Mystique really an X-man? I thought only one X-man was attacked today.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:36 PM

{OOC} Chief Rum, no one knows how much each of us has in health and energy. We all have different amounts. So, no one will know if it's enough to kill(lynch) the hero until the end of the day. {/OOC}

Tyrith

01-18-2007, 08:37 PM

I would like to remind everyone that if you do not attack you will get less energy tonight to compensate.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:38 PM

(Wolverine)

I'm now suspecting Doom. His oddball vote during our crunch of Iron Man is making me question his motives. Somebody has to get pounced on first and I'd say anyone not jumping on the bandwagon has to have other knowledge.

If Iron Man turns out to be Evil, Doom is next.

Don't even think about coming after me. It'll be me and the cockroaches alive after the nukes go off.

Then you should strike at me. You should swing those claws at Doom, and face his wrath. If you believe me to be evil, then do ... what you do best. I assure you, you will not like the result, worm.

path12

01-18-2007, 08:38 PM

you can have as much energy as you can stockpile.

Thanks all for the clarification. That's worth knowing.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 08:41 PM

Also there's an order of operations thing here so britain's force field only effects attacks since that time, correct?

Poli

01-18-2007, 08:41 PM

I would like to remind everyone that if you do not attack you will get less energy tonight to compensate.

I object! Okay, I don't.:p

Tyrith

01-18-2007, 08:42 PM

I object! Okay, I don't.:p

You don't object, you are an object :P

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 08:43 PM

Also there's an order of operations thing here so britain's force field only effects attacks since that time, correct?

Correct, there is an order of operations.

ntndeacon

01-18-2007, 08:45 PM

{OOC} Chief Rum, no one knows how much each of us has in health and energy. We all have different amounts. So, no one will know if it's enough to kill(lynch) the hero until the end of the day. {/OOC}

You seem awfully sure of this WVU. was it written somewhere that idont know about?

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:45 PM

Then you should strike at me. You should swing those claws at Doom, and face his wrath. If you believe me to be evil, then do ... what you do best. I assure you, you will not like the result, worm.

When I'm done with you, you're going to look like a Victor von BLOOMin' Onion. I hope you sleep well tonight... I'm pretty sure I won't.

LoneStarGirl

01-18-2007, 08:45 PM

15 minutes!

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 08:46 PM

I have always been a shoot first, ask questions later sorta guy, so I will follow the team lead here.

ATTACK CANNONBALL (POWERED CARD)

I trust that my teammates know what they are about here.

Eaglesfan27

01-18-2007, 08:47 PM

I did what I could, when I could. Let the chips fall...learning curve and all...

I appreciate the loyalty and perhaps I will survive to help pay back the favor and help the rest of my teammates.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:48 PM

You seem awfully sure of this WVU. was it written somewhere that idont know about?

{OOC: Yeah, it's on the front page of the rules, that each character is assigned Health and Power, and that it's variable. After all, you don't expect, say, Storm to have the same health as Wolverine, or Silver Surfer the same power as Captain America}

01-18-2007, 08:50 PM

I appreciate the loyalty and perhaps I will survive to help pay back the favor and help the rest of my teammates.

I'll raise a pint in your honor if you fall to the eternal night.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:52 PM

When I'm done with you, you're going to look like a Victor von BLOOMin' Onion. I hope you sleep well tonight... I'm pretty sure I won't.

If Iron Man does die, and he is revealed to be heroic -- I will come for your head.

Mark the words of Doom, little man. Mark them well.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:52 PM

I appreciate the loyalty and perhaps I will survive to help pay back the favor and help the rest of my teammates.

(Wolverine)

Hmmm, loyalty eh? Of the equestrian variety?

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 08:52 PM

Doom remind me how was that different than what you did today?

Eaglesfan27

01-18-2007, 08:55 PM

(Wolverine)

Hmmm, loyalty eh? Of the equestrian variety?

If I die, it will become quite clear that I'm not a horseman and that anyone who voted for me has been played.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:55 PM

If Iron Man does die, and he is revealed to be heroic -- I will come for your head.

Mark the words of Doom, little man. Mark them well.

(Wolverine)

You know where I'll be, woMan in the mask.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 08:57 PM

(Wolverine)

Hmmm, loyalty eh? Of the equestrian variety?

Wolverine, Captain Britain and Iron Man are teammates in the Atlantic Alliance. Unless you're suggesting that loyalty is an admirable trait only among the forces of Apocalypse, I don't see anything wrong with that.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 08:57 PM

Doom remind me how was that different than what you did today?

If Doom wished you dead, Magneto .. you would be.

My attack was just a warning to step aside and remember your place beneath me when I am present.

LoneStarGirl

01-18-2007, 08:58 PM

(Wolverine)

You know where I'll be, woMan in the mask.

You are insulting women everywhere with that comment furbrain!

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 08:59 PM

If Doom wished you dead, Magneto .. you would be.

My attack was just a warning to step aside and remember your place beneath me when I am present.
It's hard to get beneath someone of your "stature" doom.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 08:59 PM

(Wolverine)

3 minutes until I tear into Doom.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 08:59 PM

If I die, it will become quite clear that I'm not a horseman and that anyone who voted for me has been played.

(Professor X)

Tell me you're not one of the 12 Tony!

LoneStarGirl

01-18-2007, 09:00 PM

Wolverine, Captain Britain and Iron Man are teammates in the Atlantic Alliance. Unless you're suggesting that loyalty is an admirable trait only among the forces of Apocalypse, I don't see anything wrong with that.

I thought wolverine was in laresistance?

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:01 PM

The 12 don't know they're part of the 12 per the rules.

Eaglesfan27

01-18-2007, 09:01 PM

(Professor X)

Tell me you're not one of the 12 Tony!

I would suggest anyone that wants the forces of good to win should choose more wisely on who to attack in the future.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 09:02 PM

(Wolverine)

3 minutes until I tear into Doom.

INSOLENT DOLT! You will pay with your paltry life.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 09:02 PM

The 12 don't know they're part of the 12 per the rules.

whoops, i musta missed that part of the rules. interesting twist that certainly makes something make a lot more sense

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 09:03 PM

Writeup coming.

Poli

01-18-2007, 09:03 PM

You don't object, you are an object :P
I'm a lawyer. I can always object.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 09:03 PM

I would suggest anyone that wants the forces of good to win should choose more wisely on who to attack in the future.

(Wolverine)

Good luck Tony. Life's a bitch, but then again, so is Mystique.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:07 PM

I thought wolverine was in laresistance?

Lady, do you need a lesson in reading comprehension.

In speaking to Wolverine, I was telling him that Iron Man and Captain Britain, etc.

Apparently an understanding of English isn't one of your many powers, huh?

ntndeacon

01-18-2007, 09:10 PM

{OOC: Yeah, it's on the front page of the rules, that each character is assigned Health and Power, and that it's variable. After all, you don't expect, say, Storm to have the same health as Wolverine, or Silver Surfer the same power as Captain America}

(Mandarin)
Damn Europeans think they know everything!

Poli

01-18-2007, 09:13 PM

I demand equal rights, I mean, uh, power. No, I mean health! Health care! I demand adequate health care for heroes and villans alike!

Eaglesfan27

01-18-2007, 09:14 PM

Here! Here! I think I'm going to need that health care. ;)

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 09:15 PM

The heroes and villains quickly set to work forming teams, many involving former friends while some represent new alliances. After intense discussion, the Master of Magnetism determines that Iron Man is an agent of Apocalypse and strikes him with a wave of force that threatens to rip the armor from his body!!!

Other members of Mutant First attack quickly and decisively, but Tony Stark responds with vigor. Although he is immobilized, a single thought triggers his famed repulsor rays, blasting a stunned Magneto off his feet.

However, Iron Man cries in pain as a special arrow from Hawkeye's quarrel buries itself into the side of his armor. Smoke arises as the arrow appears to be burrowing through the armor and into the side of the playboy millionaire. Helpless to defend himself against a flurry of attacks, Iron Man wails in pain.

Meanwhile, the forces of Silver Moon concentrate their attacks on Cannonball. The young mutant is nearly imperveous as he blasts through the air, not looking to evade anything thrown his way. He winces in pain as his former teacher, Professor X, reaches out to his mind, but perserveres. Suddenly, a playing card from Gambit explodes into him and he is thrown from the air! Sam Guthrie tumbles to the ground, as the irrestible force has met a highly explosive object.

Mystique finds herself with powerful enemies and very few resources to resist their attacks. Can this frail woman sustain attacks from both the Hulk and Juggernaut? Apparently so, as well as a face-first introduction with Captain America's shield and Mandarin's electric personality. She is battered, bloody, and perhaps not as funny as she thought she was, but she lives to tend to her broken bones.

As the smoke clears, only one hero has seen an end to their story on this day. It is Tony Stark who took the biggest and the most hits on this day. His body is gone! The astral image of Apocalypse appears:

"I have claimed the first of your number today. Although Tony Stark was among the strong, he was overwhelmed by his so-called allies. When I have claimed eleven more of your number I will declare an end to this game"

Night 1 is underway.

LoneStarGirl

01-18-2007, 09:18 PM

Lady, do you need a lesson in reading comprehension.

In speaking to Wolverine, I was telling him that Iron Man and Captain Britain, etc.

Apparently an understanding of English isn't one of your many powers, huh?

Next time, dont use a , use a ;. And women are always right, do not argue with me!

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 09:19 PM

dammit...Tony was one of the 12!

Schmidty

01-18-2007, 09:19 PM

COWARD APOCALYPSE!!!! COME FIGHT ME!!!!!!!!!

HULK WILL MAKE YOU PAY FOR HURTING HIS FRIEND!!!!!!!!!

01-18-2007, 09:21 PM

Going to the pub to raise a pint in Tony's honor...anyone else care to come? I'm buying...

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 09:21 PM

{Doom}

Wolverine, your life is mine.

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 09:21 PM

(Gambit)

Poor Iron Man. Mutants First chose wrong, and now we have lost a valuable member of the 12. Be wary, Magneto and your ilk. You chose poorly, and now it has cost us.

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 09:22 PM

{Doom}

Wolverine, your life is mine.

If you go after Wolverine, you will have to deal with me as well. He is my friend until I know otherwise.

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 09:22 PM

Iron Man: 19
Mystique: 11
Cannonball: 9.5
Magneto: 4

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:22 PM

Well I know not about mystique, but I will point out that those who attacked me chose equally as poorly. There is no good Day 1 solution as we discover time and time again.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 09:23 PM

If you go after Wolverine, you will have to deal with me as well. He is my friend until I know otherwise.

Then yours is forfeit as well.

Abe Sargent

01-18-2007, 09:23 PM

Iron Man: 19
Mystique: 11
Cannonball: 9.5
Magneto: 4

THis our gold, and we need to assess it.

GoldenEagle

01-18-2007, 09:23 PM

(Juggernaut)

The Apocalypse knew that Tony was one of the 12. I am very suspicious of anyone voted for him today. All must fear the powerful wrath of Juggernaut.

Tyrith

01-18-2007, 09:23 PM

To clarify, this is damage that they would have taken before any defenses powers come into play.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:25 PM

Also what does it say that 3/4 of our one group was attacked? I'm honestly not sure but I think it must mean something.

Abe Sargent

01-18-2007, 09:26 PM

Iron Man: 19
Mystique: 11
Cannonball: 9.5
Magneto: 4

I will come right out and put it all on the line, because I think this is how we snuff out the baddies. My arrow is specially powerful against armored foes and should have dealt five of the 19, barring pluses my tream may have gotten.

-Hawkeye

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:26 PM

Can someone put together a traditional "who voted for whom" list?

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:27 PM

I was responsible for at least 3 of the 19. More information when I receive my night PM.

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 09:27 PM

Also what does it say that 3/4 of our one group was attacked? I'm honestly not sure but I think it must mean something.

Your group is the victim of your past actions. All are suspicious of you. Are you surprised your group would draw fire?

You also were the first to attack.

Tyrith

01-18-2007, 09:27 PM

IF YOU DO NOT ALSO SEND ME YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGES TO HOOPS, MOD SMASH!!!

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:27 PM

The synergy of Mutants first should be another 2, in theory.

Alan T

01-18-2007, 09:28 PM

THis our gold, and we need to assess it.

Working on it right now, trying to figure out some math. I'll post something with numbers soon.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:28 PM

Y'know.

I'm not a bit surprised by the outcome here. That's what happens when you rush to irrevocable judgement based on nothing.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 09:30 PM

If you go after Wolverine, you will have to deal with me as well. He is my friend until I know otherwise.

Thanks, Bub.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:31 PM

Y'know.

I'm not a bit surprised by the outcome here. That's what happens when you rush to irrevocable judgement based on nothing.
This sort of sanctimonious scribbling is stupid and supercilious.

01-18-2007, 09:31 PM

So if I read the rules correctly, we now have a night action?

Poli

01-18-2007, 09:32 PM

Mystique finds herself with powerful enemies and very few resources to resist their attacks. Can this frail woman sustain attacks from both the Hulk and Juggernaut? Apparently so, as well as a face-first introduction with Captain America's shield and Mandarin's electric personality. She is battered, bloody, and perhaps not as funny as she thought she was, but she lives to tend to her broken bones.
Night 1 is underway.

I hope she got a billy club as well.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:32 PM

Correct gi, though not actions are done via PM. No voting and such.

I would also encourage our seer or seeresque people to scan Mystique. If Mystique is bad it'll take little to kill her. If she's good then we want to make sure she recovers.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:33 PM

Oh and I wouldn't mind be scanned either since I think it's quite likely I will meet my demise tomorrow.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 09:33 PM

So if I read the rules correctly, we now have a night action?

yes that you must send via PM to hoops. Don't reveal your night action in the thread.

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 09:33 PM

This sort of sanctimonious scribbling is stupid and supercilious.

So say you. Strong statement, sir.

01-18-2007, 09:34 PM

So I could put my defensive power on myself then, correct? Thanks for the help in advance.

Poli

01-18-2007, 09:35 PM

I am definitely interested in who dealt what amount of damage.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:35 PM

This sort of sanctimonious scribbling is stupid and supercilious.

Is it? You were the first to attack Tony, who we now know was one of the 12.

Is it stupid and supercilious that I pleaded with people to show more restraint, and we lost a powerful ally because of bullheaded foolishness?

Or is it stupid and supercilious that you were the first to cast your lot - with two actions, I might add - and now condemn me for pointing out that you, among others, were foolish in your haste to lynch?

01-18-2007, 09:35 PM

LOL. Tis be a slow learning curve.

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 09:36 PM

Can someone put together a traditional "who voted for whom" list?

Here are the moderator numbers:

Post #448 (1:33PM) Magneto attacks IronMan (magnetic blast) and Impedes IronMan (special attack)
Post #450 (1:35PM) Mystique attacks IronMan (gun)
Post #459 (1:46PM) Warpath attacks IronMan (knife)
Post #532 (2:27PM) Doom attacks Magneto (mystic blast)
Post #559 (2:47PM) Hawkeye attacks Iron Man (Acid Arrow - special attack)
Post #560 (2:48PM) Captain Marvel attacks Iron Man (energy blast)
Post #561 (2:48PM) Cannonball attacks Iron Man (collision)
Post #562 (2:48PM) Daredevil attacks Mystique (billy club)
Post #584 (3:00PM) IronMan Energy Absorbtion (defense power)
Post #584 (3:00PM) IronMan attacks Magneto (repulsor blast)
Post #660 (4:27PM) Wolverine attacks IronMan (claws)
Post #695 (5:44PM) Prof X attacks Cannonball (psionic blast)
Post #697 (5:48PM) Moon Knight attacks Cannonball (crescent dart)
Post #699 (5:53PM) Math attacks Cannonball (psionic blast)
Post #701 (5:54PM) Surfer attacks Cannonball (power cosmic)
Post #711 (6:05PM) Spiderman attacks Iron Man (fist)
Post #755 (7:29PM) Mandarin attacks Mystique (ring - electric)
Post #756 (7:32PM) Captain America attacks Mystique (shield bash)
Post #759 (7:45PM) Mr. Sinister attacks Iron Man (psionic blast)
Post #761 (7:48PM) Hulk attacks Mystique (meaty green fist)
Post #780 (8:15PM) Juggernaut attacks Mystique (lower the shoulder)
Post #827 (8:46PM) Gambit attacks Cannonball (playing card)

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:37 PM

So say you. Strong statement, sir.
Indeed I do if ignobleness idiots insist in inviting inevitable impairment of victory.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:39 PM

Is it? You were the first to attack Tony, who we now know was one of the 12.

Is it stupid and supercilious that I pleaded with people to show more restraint, and we lost a powerful ally because of bullheaded foolishness?

Or is it stupid and supercilious that you were the first to cast your lot - with two actions, I might add - and now condemn me for pointing out that you, among others, were foolish in your haste to lynch?
My reasons were stated. We were all dancing around like a bunch of ballerinas at a first grade recital. We are trying to defeat evil here. Ultimate evil. Time and time again I try and do what is right and time and time again people attack me as evil, when I am merely trying to use the power available to achieve positive ends.

Alan T

01-18-2007, 09:39 PM

Ok here is what I have:

Silver Moon: Blade: Cannonball, DaddyTorgo: Cannonball, Chief RUm: Cannonball, Path: Cannonball, Mr.W: Cannonball
(5 cannonball + 2 bonus)
Mutant First: Barkeep: Ironman, AlanT: Ironman, Spleen: Ironman, Thomkal: Ironman
(4 Ironman + 2 bonus)
DOOM,Sinister&Co: Wvufan: Magneto, Talgian: ----- , Goldeneagle: -----
(1 magneto)
LaResistance: Anxiety: IronMan, Ardent: Mystique, LSG: IronMan, Jonathan: IronMan, Bonegavel: Ironman
(4 Ironman + 2 bonus) (1 Mystique)
Force: Swaggs: ---- , Schmidty: Mystique, Ntndeacon: Mystique, Grammaticus: ----
(2 Mystique + 1 bonus)
Atlantic Alliance: Sackattack: Mystique, Eaglesfan: Magneto, gi: --- (Defense on Ironman)
(1 Mystique) (1 Magneto)
RaidersArmy: -------

Iron Man: 19 (12 counted for)
Mystique: 11 (5 counted for)
Cannonball: 9.5 (7 counted for)
Magneto: 4 (2 counted for)

I tried to break it down by player and team so we could also figure in bonuses. Some things in my mind, a bad guy not voting for Ironman would know he was one of the 12. So could possibly sabotage his own teams efforts on another person, or just vote off to the side. I dont see any evidence of sabotage in these numbers though.

These numbers dont figure in added attack bonuses or defense bonuses though.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:39 PM

Indeed I do if ignobleness idiots insist in inviting inevitable impairment of victory.

Hey, Wolverine, how'd you manage to get close enough to Magneto to give him an impromptu lobotomy without him turning you into a pretzel?

path12

01-18-2007, 09:40 PM

LOL. Tis be a slow learning curve.

(ooc) Nothing like jumping straight in the deep end! (/ooc)

Alan T

01-18-2007, 09:42 PM

So adding in the info from Anxiety and Barkeep, we have the following before defenses figured in:

Iron Man: 19 (12 counted for) (+5 Anxiety) (+3 Barkeep) = (20 counted for)
Mystique: 11 (5 counted for)
Cannonball: 9.5 (7 counted for)
Magneto: 4 (2 counted for)

Anyone see why there should be more than 19 on Iron Man before defenses figured in? I don't see how possibly the bad guys would sabotage killing one of the 12.. so I'm not quite sure on this one.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 09:42 PM

[quote=Alan T;1361866]Ok here is what I have:

Silver Moon: Blade: Cannonball, DaddyTorgo: Cannonball, Chief RUm: Cannonball, Path: Cannonball, Mr.W: Cannonball
(5 cannonball + 2 bonus)
Mutant First: Barkeep: Ironman, AlanT: Ironman, Spleen: Ironman, Thomkal: Ironman
(4 Ironman + 2 bonus)
DOOM,Sinister&Co: Wvufan: Magneto, Talgian: ----- , Goldeneagle: -----
(1 magneto)
LaResistance: Anxiety: IronMan, Ardent: Mystique, LSG: IronMan, Jonathan: IronMan, Bonegavel: Ironman
(4 Ironman + 2 bonus) (1 Mystique)
Force: Swaggs: ---- , Schmidty: Mystique, Ntndeacon: Mystique, Grammaticus: ----
(2 Mystique + 1 bonus)
Atlantic Alliance: Sackattack: Mystique, Eaglesfan: Magneto, gi: --- (Defense on Ironman)
(1 Mystique) (1 Magneto)
RaidersArmy: -------

Sinister and Juggernaut both attacked.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:43 PM

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 09:43 PM

Silver Moon, any thoughts on today's actions? Gambit will be gone all day tomorrow, so he needs to get a handle on what we will be doing now, if possible.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:45 PM

I had +2 to my attack, for a total of 3. Perhaps that's the miscalculation?

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:46 PM

My reasons were stated. We were all dancing around like a bunch of ballerinas at a first grade recital. We are trying to defeat evil here. Ultimate evil. Time and time again I try and do what is right and time and time again people attack me as evil, when I am merely trying to use the power available to achieve positive ends.

Admirable.

Unfortunately, I see two problems here:

1) An attack and an immobilization is an awful lot of energy to expend on a Day 1 target, particularly when it's a pin-the-tail target. We haven't even had night actions to try to ascertain anybody's loyalties. That probably isn't the best time to be "bold," as you put it.

Why would you expend that kind of energy when a Day 2 vote might be even more critical?

2) 3/4 of your team laid into Tony within 15 minutes of one another, basically, with irrevocable attacks. You were the first three to cast stones. There was no way for any of you to back off, and the early attacks set the tone for the entire snowball. Part of me wonders if the forcefulness of your outburst was intended that way.

Poli

01-18-2007, 09:46 PM

Indeed I do if ignobleness idiots insist in inviting inevitable impairment of victory.
Is this V for Vendetta? I didn't see that one either.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 09:48 PM

Silver Moon, any thoughts on today's actions? Gambit will be gone all day tomorrow, so he needs to get a handle on what we will be doing now, if possible.

thoughts on today's actions...like who we should be looking to attack tomorrow? i'm honestly not sure right now Gambit.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:48 PM

Admirable.

Unfortunately, I see two problems here:

1) An attack and an immobilization is an awful lot of energy to expend on a Day 1 target, particularly when it's a pin-the-tail target. We haven't even had night actions to try to ascertain anybody's loyalties. That probably isn't the best time to be "bold," as you put it.

Why would you expend that kind of energy when a Day 2 vote might be even more critical?

2) 3/4 of your team laid into Tony within 15 minutes of one another, basically, with irrevocable attacks. You were the first three to cast stones. There was no way for any of you to back off, and the early attacks set the tone for the entire snowball. Part of me wonders if the forcefulness of your outburst was intended that way.
Energy means different things to different players now doesn't it? I had believed my powers stronger than they were and wished to mitigate what I saw as ineveitable backlash against me by Ironman. Alas it didn't matter.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:49 PM

Is this V for Vendetta? I didn't see that one either.
I've never seen the movie or read the comics so any resemblance is merely coincidental.

Poli

01-18-2007, 09:49 PM

I would expect Magneto wouldn't have time for such trivial matters, anyways.

Alan T

01-18-2007, 09:50 PM

Ok with changes, adding in my missing votes from Juggernaught and Sinister, and modifying Barkeep by -1, I get:

Iron Man: 19 (13 counted for) (+5 Anxiety) (+2 Barkeep) = (20 counted for)
Mystique: 11 (6 counted for)
Cannonball: 9.5 (7 counted for)
Magneto: 4 (2 counted for)

Still something a bit off on Iron Man, unless Anxiety is 5 total (4+1) which makes it even out.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 09:50 PM

Alan T

01-18-2007, 09:52 PM

Admirable.

Unfortunately, I see two problems here:

1) An attack and an immobilization is an awful lot of energy to expend on a Day 1 target, particularly when it's a pin-the-tail target. We haven't even had night actions to try to ascertain anybody's loyalties. That probably isn't the best time to be "bold," as you put it.

Why would you expend that kind of energy when a Day 2 vote might be even more critical?

2) 3/4 of your team laid into Tony within 15 minutes of one another, basically, with irrevocable attacks. You were the first three to cast stones. There was no way for any of you to back off, and the early attacks set the tone for the entire snowball. Part of me wonders if the forcefulness of your outburst was intended that way.

I can speak for #2 myself. We were online all morning and other than a few people here or there, our team was the only one discussing anything. We discussed possible candidates and then decided to go for IronMan. We moved as a team, but it was by no means a 15 minute deal, we talked about various candidates for quite a while before that.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:52 PM

Energy means different things to different players now doesn't it? I had believed my powers stronger than they were and wished to mitigate what I saw as ineveitable backlash against me by Ironman. Alas it didn't matter.

I'm still not sure how much good resisting backlash by Iron Man does you unless you think you may face several attacks and blunting or resisting Iron Man's might be the key to avoiding lynch.

Again, especially so early, with no real idea of what everybody's motives are.

path12

01-18-2007, 09:52 PM

Silver Moon, any thoughts on today's actions? Gambit will be gone all day tomorrow, so he needs to get a handle on what we will be doing now, if possible.

(Silver Surfer)

I do not know where we should go now. It is regrettable that we have lost an important ally.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:54 PM

I'm still not sure how much good resisting backlash by Iron Man does you unless you think you may face several attacks and blunting or resisting Iron Man's might be the key to avoiding lynch.

Again, especially so early, with no real idea of what everybody's motives are.
Because the expenditure of energy was essentially meaningless to me and I would much rather be at full health than not.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:54 PM

I can speak for #2 myself. We were online all morning and other than a few people here or there, our team was the only one discussing anything. We discussed possible candidates and then decided to go for IronMan. We moved as a team, but it was by no means a 15 minute deal, we talked about various candidates for quite a while before that.

Makes sense.

But one vote might have been sufficient to trigger action by others, if that's what you sought. A rapid-fire attack once you chose to move basically assured that the only way Iron Man wasn't going to get railroaded was if another candidate arose who drew sufficient ire from other heroes.

Particularly since, once committed, joining another fight in the same day would put any or each of you at a disadvantage moving forward.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 09:55 PM

Because the expenditure of energy was essentially meaningless to me and I would much rather be at full health than not.

You'd have recovered.

Wish I could say the same for poor Tony.

Talgian

01-18-2007, 09:56 PM

Hmm, bad results tonight. Sorry my activity has been so curt, I imagine it will free up much more over the course of the weekend and next week.

Alan T

01-18-2007, 09:57 PM

Looking things over, it actually was a discussion over 100 posts and 2 hours 15 minutes to decide on Ironman. I'm sure I missed some stuff, but you were actually online during alot of this Cpt America, I'm suprised you don't remember this better.

(Mystique)

Mutants First, I will be unavailable after 7:30pm tonight until after lynch. I'll be able to read the board, but not post.

So, I would like to decide what we need to do so that I know what we are doing. Since Day 1 is so random, do we want to go with a random person or use some "Who would Apocalypse pick?" logic to figure out who we attack today?

(warpath)

Normally on day 1 I don't have a problem throwing out a vote early on since you can just change it later. Since in this game once you do an attack, you've used your attack I want to be a bit more cautious is all. We can decide on some plan of action before you have to go, but I would like to look further into what things happen today before I am ready to make a move.

-Do you go after someone in a larger team and risk the retalliation of that team?
- Do you go after someone who isn't in a team or on a smaller team to be able to battle off any form of retalliation that may come?

We also had Silver Moon offer a loose alliance at least in the early going while we might have mutual goals to accomplish that we should consider.

-Do we team up with them and go after someone making it very tough for the other person to defend themselves?

Also in selecting a target, I guess everyone has different type of attacks and are vulnerable to certain types of things.

-Do we choose someone less likely to have some insane defense like Hulk or someone to make sure we get the most bang to our buck?

(Mystique)

Mutants First, what do you guys think about attacking Hawkeye(Chief Rum) today?

I would rather avoid attacking anyone on Silver Moon at least day 1 as Moon (Blade) has shown himself interesting in working for a common goal early on.

My thoughts would be early on to either show Doom that he is all talk and look at someone on his team, or perhaps look at the small pairing of Capt. America and Iron Man as those both are players whom I would have chosen as Apocolypse.

[Magneto]
I think attacking the Captain America/Ironman duo makes sense. I would lean slightly towards Eagles (Ironman) since I think he'd be slightly more likely to be chosen since he's a "big name" FOFCer (which reminds me that I need to start his FTB thread). Anyhow what does Team Silver think about an Ironman attack?

Blade your opinion on iron man?

Ok then with enough loose support from my team and even looser support from our potential allies I'm going to be bold and

Attack Ironman
Impede Ironman

Impede should be
Immobilize Ironman

I'll support you Barkeep.

Attack Ironman

Guess I will go along with my team

Attack Ironman

Hoops, just trying to make sure I understand how this works. We all have energy totals, so this attack uses up one of my energy correct? So now my energy is (original energy minus one). If I later choose to do a second attack today, its 1 more energy point or is it 2 additional energy points? (1 for the attack and 1 for being a second attack)?

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 09:58 PM

There were other comments on ironman in there as well between my asking Blade his opinion and my attacking.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 09:58 PM

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 10:00 PM

Here's what I see.

"Attack one of those guys, they're who I'D have chosen."

"I'd go after Iron Man, because he's a big name FOFCer."

"Form of a weasel, attack!"

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 10:02 PM

i think we should look at those who laid into Iron Man in the middle. It's a traditional wolfish hiding place to be sure, but that's because it's the best.

are you going to be around before deadline tomorrow CR?

[ooc]Unfortunately no, not after I leave for work in the morning. I work both of my jobs tomorrow, and won't be home until well after deadline.

Alan T

01-18-2007, 10:02 PM

Makes sense.

But one vote might have been sufficient to trigger action by others, if that's what you sought. A rapid-fire attack once you chose to move basically assured that the only way Iron Man wasn't going to get railroaded was if another candidate arose who drew sufficient ire from other heroes.

Particularly since, once committed, joining another fight in the same day would put any or each of you at a disadvantage moving forward.

Well I guess my question in return would be:

What is the point of being in a team if you do not act as a team? This is something I wondered earlier today as people brought up various things. We obviously didn't form these teams based on trust (At least I didn't, since I don't know who is bad or good).

My reasons for forming a team and voting as a team:

1) To try to figure out possible bad guys by doing the math from team votes.
2) To be able to have support/friends to help keep you alive longer.
3) To try to work together and brainstorm and find a common place to push and use the team bonus to enable your own agenda gets pushed rather than others (who may or may not be part of apocolypse.

Now I've seen people who didnt vote as teams today which invalidates #1.
I have seen people who didn't really support their teammates to try to work out some alliance with others to keep their team mate alive which meant #2 didn't help Ironman today.
I have seen people who just voted whichever way they wanted without much discussion with their team which invalidates #3.

So my question to others would be.. Why in the world did you form up in a team with people who you don't trust who you have no intentions of discussing the vote with and have no desire to protect?

Like them or hate them, I know at least with Magneto and Mystique they will be here during the day when I am to discuss possible moves and we'll work together to try to figure out the best moves. Could one of them be part of Apocolypse's team? Perhaps! But the more they communicate, the more likely it might be to catch them in a lie.

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 10:02 PM

(Wolverine)

It seems too obvious for Magneto, if he was evil. But it can't be overlooked that Tony was not only not evil, but was one of the 12.

That means if this was an accident it was a 50/50 shot for Magneto to pick a 12'er (5 evil+8 not 12 = 13 then minus 1 for himself makes 12 and 12). A coin toss on the first night with such conviction was thrown into the first salvo?

Yeah. 50/50 are not the kind of odds I'd go in guns blazing on, particularly as the Horsemen have the advantage of knowing who the Twelve are. We don't.

Could it be an accident? Sure. I'd be more inclined to believe that if not for his Immobilize action.

Poli

01-18-2007, 10:03 PM

Magneto, I submit to you this quote from V for Vendetta. You'll soon see why I made that connection.

"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. "

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 10:06 PM

Except there's a first mover advantage here. If I'm going to attack someone I want to make sure it's good for all it's worth. The longer something is discussed publicly the more likely it is that someone will throw up some sort of defense. I agree with all of what Alan said. I acted in that same manner and I'm guessing spleen did as well. Perhaps that's why we formed as a team: we have a like view of how it should be used.

Any vote, as you point out, in this game is strong. So why not just accept your strength and go with it? I did. Why would you want to appear weak to Apocalypse?

Now I cannot decide if it is shame on others for appearing to want to falsely lynch me two games in a row for the same reason or if it's shame on me for not varying my game. I think I'll have to go with shame on me.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 10:07 PM

Thanks for the quote Ardent. Hoops had pm'ed me saying it was v for Vendettaesque.

Barkeep49

01-18-2007, 10:10 PM

The more I think about it the more amazed I am that so many of those who are supposedly super would like to play not to lose rather than play to win. I play to win. I make no excuses about it. It is this sort of attitude which will save us from the menace we face not your pansy "let's just wait for stuff to happen to us" approach. I am all for discussion and logic and will continue to use both. But let us not pretend that our weaknesses are virtues. Oh no. Weaknesses are weaknesses. Period.

Poli

01-18-2007, 10:10 PM

Thanks for the quote Ardent. Hoops had pm'ed me saying it was v for Vendettaesque.
I have a feeling you would enjoy it.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 10:10 PM

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 10:16 PM

hoops, in light of CR's membership in a team, could he cede the power of determining the target of his attack to his team if he won't be present?

i doubt it, but i figure it's better than him putting in a random attack tonight which can't be withdrawn. otherwise he's stuck with no attack.

Conditional orders are a really slippery slope in a game that is time-sensitive like this one is.

The other worry is that even if I limit it to a basic attack it still essentially doubles the power of one player's (on his team) attack because he will be acting for two people when that might not be the outcome if they are there to see it.

I'm willing to take an order via e-mail, as well as provide a synopsis of events, if that helps someone without access at work. PM me for details. But I can't have the attack placed in the fashion that you are suggesting.

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 10:17 PM

(Wolverine)

We can't cry over spilled milk (even if it is red and gold). I say we need to take out another big gun like Hulk. I'm guessing most have used at least a decent part of their energy today and won't be able fight off a decent attack.

One of us is going to die tonight and I hope you realize my value and give me some defense before it's too late.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 10:20 PM

Conditional orders are a really slippery slope in a game that is time-sensitive like this one is.

The other worry is that even if I limit it to a basic attack it still essentially doubles the power of one player's (on his team) attack because he will be acting for two people when that might not be the outcome if they are there to see it.

I'm willing to take an order via e-mail, as well as provide a synopsis of events, if that helps someone without access at work. PM me for details. But I can't have the attack placed in the fashion that you are suggesting.

that's fair enough. just trying to find a solution for the poor guy.

Chief Rum

01-18-2007, 10:22 PM

that's fair enough. just trying to find a solution for the poor guy.

Thank you, Professor. It might be for the best for me to conserve my energy for our use after tomorrow. I may confer with hoopsguy on the possibilities using emails, but this might be to our advantage in the coming days.

DaddyTorgo

01-18-2007, 10:24 PM

ok, i've got early work tomorrow so i'm off to bed in a minute here. i'll be back around 2pm tomorrow i'd say

Bonegavel

01-18-2007, 10:25 PM

ok, i've got early work tomorrow so i'm off to bed in a minute here. i'll be back around 2pm tomorrow i'd say

Dittos for me and bed. I'll hopefully be able to check on and off throughout the day at work.

Talgian

01-18-2007, 10:31 PM

Bed for me as well. Hopefully this evening will carry for fewer dire consequences than the day.

spleen1015

01-18-2007, 10:34 PM

It is nice to see that I have to save the world with a bunch of cowards. Wait until I am no longer available and pile on me when I can't return fire. Nicely done.

WVUFAN

01-18-2007, 10:37 PM

Poli

01-18-2007, 10:38 PM

It is nice to see that I have to save the world with a bunch of cowards. Wait until I am no longer available and pile on me when I can't return fire. Nicely done.

Don't look at me.

Tyrith

01-18-2007, 10:44 PM

This is your friendly other moderator speaking. I say other because some of you have been...ahem...negligent about including me on your PMs. I must request that this end, or else I might become somewhat less friendly. You have been warned. Good night!

hoopsguy

01-18-2007, 11:29 PM

Note - there is a rule update related to health. I will append this to the rules post as well.

If a character is driven below 25% of their health, but still lives into the next day, they will be listed at 25% of their health (rounding up) heading into the night cycle. Regular healing will take place at that time.

Abe Sargent

01-18-2007, 11:41 PM

I have conn problems. Won't be on much until resolution

SackAttack

01-18-2007, 11:48 PM

I have conn problems. Won't be on much until resolution

Resolution of what? Night actions? The game?

Mr. Wednesday

01-19-2007, 12:07 AM

So far, we seem to be long (rather than short) on damage. In particular consideration of the primary target of the day, I don't think that should be a surprise; Apocalypse and his Horsemen will have been happy enough to let the teams unleash their full brunt against Iron Man.

hoopsguy

01-19-2007, 06:22 AM

PMs going out now, posted Night 1 results to follow.

Grammaticus

01-19-2007, 06:34 AM

Hey HULK, hows it goin?

Schmidty

01-19-2007, 06:41 AM

Hey HULK, hows it goin?

HULK JUST GOT HOME FROM WORK. HULK GOING TO BED NOW!!!

HULK SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grammaticus

01-19-2007, 06:58 AM

Unfortunately, I'm headed in the other direction. Up from sleep and off to work.

Poli

01-19-2007, 07:26 AM

Good. I'm not dead yet. :)

hoopsguy

01-19-2007, 07:31 AM

There is concern in the air, as Apocalypse's forces seized the upper-hand on Day 1. As the heroes scatter for the evening, no clear consensus emerges for the next move.

A BOOM! wakes all from their slumber. The heroes converge on the site from which the sound originated to find a shattered golden horse on the ground, but no bodies. Clearly there was a struggle, but everyone is present and accounted for to start the day.

Day 2 has begun.

Alan T

01-19-2007, 07:33 AM

(Warpath)

Well it sounds like something happened last night. Looks like night 1 was a bit luckier than day 1.

Poli

01-19-2007, 07:36 AM

Right on!

ntndeacon

01-19-2007, 07:41 AM

(Mandarin)

Excellent! It looks as if the forces holding us here may have bit off more than they could chew.

Thomkal

01-19-2007, 07:42 AM

(Cannonball)

:::rubs head and glares at Professor X and Gambit:::

"Anyone got a couple aspirins? Ah sure hope you got a good look inside my head with that attack Professor."

:::looks over at Mystique's mangled face and whispers::: "Gods, Ah'm even more scared of her now-survived an attack from Hulk AND Juggernaut!:::

As for who I think we should go after today, well obviously the people who attacked me because I know I'm good. Or the people who joined on to my team's attack on Iron Man even after we discussed why that might not be a good idea. Since we now know Iron Man was one of the 12, and likely one Apocalypse would like to get rid of, I think there probably has to be some evils who attacked him.

Barkeep49

01-19-2007, 07:42 AM

I don't mind to be a negative nancy, but until I hear otherwise I will consider that another one of brethren have succumbed to the allure of Apocalypse.

Thomkal

01-19-2007, 07:44 AM

woot! Congrats to whomever survived that attack.

Thomkal

01-19-2007, 07:45 AM

You're such a killjoy Magneto. :) Oh okay I guess we should consider that, but there already seems like there are enough evils in the game.

Talgian

01-19-2007, 08:08 AM

I am glad this evening was less eventful than the previous day. I have done some research, but I am unsure as to the significance of this golden horse. Perhaps someone elses understands the message it sends?

Poli

01-19-2007, 08:15 AM

I got nothing.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 08:37 AM

What is this golden horse and why do I know nothing about it? Tell me what it means now!

Bonegavel

01-19-2007, 08:43 AM

Alan T

01-19-2007, 08:57 AM

since I'm new, I'm not really sure of the "correct" course of action or how to necessarily read first day results, so I'm just winging it.

(Wolverine)

Nothing is jumping out at me right now as obvious.

Magneto is overtly obvious with his choice of attack on a member of the 12.

Doom's attack on magneto is odd to me. Why not go after Stark since none of us know? It was early enough that if Doom was evil, he would have joined in the attack to rid us of a 12 early, but it could also be misdirection. Is Doom that smart?

ProfX goes after Cannonball? Don't know why but same rules apply as to Doom.

Daredevil goes clubbin' on Mystique and same rules apply as to Doom and ProfX.

My assumptions is that anyone not of the "5" would have simply attacked all the same people on day 1 since we have to start somewhere. Only the "5" know who are the 12.

That logics me to Magneto as a target. I don't think I get along well with him being that my skeleton is made of metal. Magneto seems a good choice.

However, I think the Hulk has been able to hide behind his big green persona enough that David Banner could easily be Apocalypse and we'd never know it since the green machine can only spew out fragmented sentences.

I think Hulk is a good target. Very powerful and thus hard to kill later. Not much in the info department since he can't speak. I think a safe lynch.

(warpath)

I have a different feel about alot of those people than you did. Perhaps your nose is more keen to smelling out people than mine though.

Its usually very unrewarding for everyone to vote for the same people day 1. You end up with a 20% chance of getting a bad guy, but no information about whom voted for whom down the road. I don't have problems necessarily with the Professor trying to build a consensus with his team to look at a different person.

I think Doom's seems a bit shadier as a typical day 1 throw away vote that you often find bad guys doing. A meaningless vote on someone who doesn't really have any consensus and later on tracks us to meaning nothing.

I hope Hulk isn't bad. Hulk is funny and a bad Hulk would make me sad.

Grammaticus

01-19-2007, 08:59 AM

(Venom)

I do not have any knowledge of events that occurred last night.

Does anyone have anything they can add about last nights events, that may assist us in piecing things together?

Also, at this point there is only one person that is raising a concern with my mimicked spidey senses.

Alan T

01-19-2007, 09:01 AM

(Warpath)

Also since today is Friday, alot of people (myself including) won't be available the last few hours before deadline. Many people yesterday falsely criticized my team saying we were fast to action, when in fact we had spent many hours deliberating before our moves.

If people would like to talk possible good candidates today, I would enjoy that. However they need to do so before the workday is done, as my availability will be less after that. (Even Warpath needs to go out to movie night!) So I will likely decide on my action by middle afternoon once again just like yesterday.

hoopsguy

01-19-2007, 09:10 AM

Note on weekend game play. We still have 24 people in the game at this point, so an aggressive weekend schedule is just not happening. Here is what I'm looking at doing, unless there is significant resistance.

Night 2 deadline: Sunday at noon (EST)
Day 3 deadline: Monday at 10PM (EST)

There should be a significant thinning out of numbers next week, to the point that if the game is still going I would be much more willing to think about weekend play.

Thomkal

01-19-2007, 09:24 AM

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 09:35 AM

If you ugly brutes decide to take on the Hulk today it would be wise to get the whole lot of us have to agree and attack him because I would imagine him to have more defenses and health than most of us. I am not saying I advocate it, I am waiting to hear what happened last night before we should make any rash decisions against our big green dummy.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 09:36 AM

Wolverine is apart of my 'team' so i dont know if I like the idea of you guys attacking him. LAResistance would need some pretty damning evidence before we went after one of our own.

spleen1015

01-19-2007, 09:38 AM

Ok votes in the traditional sense:

Ironman – Magneto, Mystique, Warpath, Hawkeye, Captain Marvel, Cannoball, Wolverine, Spiderman, Sinister
Magneto – Doom, Ironman
Mystique – Daredevil, Mandarin, Captain America, Hulk, Juggernaut
Cannonball – Prof X, Moon Knight, Math, Surfer, Gambit

So, it looks like Storm (Swaggs), Captain Britain (gi), Venom (Grammaticus), and Ironman (EF27) didn't elect to attack anyone yesterday.

Ironman is dead so there's no need to ask him.

To the other 3, why didn't you attack anyone?

Poli

01-19-2007, 09:41 AM

Right on.

Poli

01-19-2007, 09:44 AM

So, it looks like Storm (Swaggs), Captain Britain (gi), Venom (Grammaticus), and Ironman (EF27) didn't elect to attack anyone yesterday.

Ironman is dead so there's no need to ask him.

To the other 3, why didn't you attack anyone?
Had I not felt provoked, I probably wouldn't have attacked myself...until it was mentioned that not attacking would draw an energy penalty.

It's the only reason I can think of to attack today.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 09:45 AM

gi did not attack because I think he assumed he could only do one thing a day and he used that to protect ironman.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 09:46 AM

01-19-2007, 09:48 AM

gi did not attack because I think he assumed he could only do one thing a day and he used that to protect ironman.

I'm assuming by this message that I was incorrect? I can do multiple actions huh...depending on energy...I'll get there... :)

DaddyTorgo

01-19-2007, 09:48 AM

(ooc) just checking in from work. will be home in 3 hours. no better idea really of who to target today yet. no idea of the golden horse's significance, though I guess there should be some.

thom...the attack on you was nothing personal, just that blade+path+I felt that bandwagoning wouldn't reveal anything.

alan...I will be very open to discussion around 2pm EST for the rest of the day (/ooc)

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 09:50 AM

Its okay gi, this game is new for all of us... you can use as much energy as you have. If you have 5 energy, you can attack me 5 times. If that shield defense you used yesterday was 3 energy, you could have attacked somebody 2 more times to use all your 5. I wouldn't recommend it, especially not this early, but its doable.

hoopsguy

01-19-2007, 09:50 AM

GI, you can do an attack and a defensive action (provided you have sufficient energy) without penalty. You can also do a standard attack and a special attack (if you have those) without penalty.

You cannot launch multiple special attacks in a day.

There is an additional energy cost to launch multiple standard attacks in a day.

Barkeep49

01-19-2007, 09:54 AM

I'm out until 1ish.

Barkeep49

01-19-2007, 09:54 AM

That's central time.

spleen1015

01-19-2007, 09:54 AM

Ironman attacked Magneto

My mistake. Deadpool is the other person who did not attack.

With gi not understanding the rules, we still have 3 folks who did not attack. I would like to know why.

Thomkal

01-19-2007, 09:57 AM

spleen1015

01-19-2007, 09:57 AM

Had I not felt provoked, I probably wouldn't have attacked myself...until it was mentioned that not attacking would draw an energy penalty.

It's the only reason I can think of to attack today.

You were hardly provoked. Captain Marvel was provoked more than anyone and she was smart enuogh not to attack me.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 09:58 AM

Ardent, do you see anybody who LeResistance should be keeping an eye on today?

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 09:59 AM

You were hardly provoked. Captain Marvel was provoked more than anyone and she was smart enuogh not to attack me.

You foolish Bitch, I had already attacked somebody and didn't want to waste any more of my energy on the likeness of you. You will be dealt with when the time is right.

ntndeacon

01-19-2007, 10:01 AM

(Mandarin)
Storm gave mention of why she would not be attacking. I believe she felt it would be a wasted vote. I thikn she would have if one of Force had been attacked, but imay be reading too much into what she said yesterday.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 10:08 AM

Where is my dear Captain America? I need to know what my mentor has to say about last night!

ntndeacon

01-19-2007, 10:10 AM

(Cannonball)

"Ah agree with Wolverine that Hulk should be looked at sooner rather than later. He's probably the most powerful physically of us all, and if he's a bad 'un then we need to get him as soon as possible. I'm not advocating for an attack on him, just hoping a seer-type looks at him soon if they haven't already."

(Mandarin)

Bah! How has the Hulk gathered so much opposition? There are many in our ranks that will be hard to bring down. As one of his teammates in FORCE I would feel bound to defend such an attack!

Alan T

01-19-2007, 10:12 AM

Looking over the list from yesterday:

Silver Moon: Blade: Cannonball, DaddyTorgo: Cannonball, Chief RUm: Cannonball, Path: Cannonball, Mr.W: Cannonball
(5 cannonball + 2 bonus)
Mutant First: Barkeep: Ironman, AlanT: Ironman, Spleen: Ironman, Thomkal: Ironman
(4 Ironman + 2 bonus)
DOOM,Sinister&Co: Wvufan: Magneto, Talgian: Iron Man, Goldeneagle: Mystique
(1 magneto) (1 Iron Man) (1 Mystique)
LaResistance: Anxiety: IronMan, Ardent: Mystique, LSG: IronMan, Jonathan: IronMan, Bonegavel: Ironman
(4 Ironman + 2 bonus) (1 Mystique)
Force: Swaggs: ---- , Schmidty: Mystique, Ntndeacon: Mystique, Grammaticus: ----
(2 Mystique + 1 bonus)
Atlantic Alliance: Sackattack: Mystique, Eaglesfan: Magneto, gi: --- (Defense on Ironman)
(1 Mystique) (1 Magneto)
RaidersArmy: -------

I see a three distinct groups.:
1) People who went along together as a team
2) People who went against their team
3) People who did not go at all.

Those who went along with their team to vote Ironman could have easily had bad guys hidden in there.

Those who went against their team to vote Ironman seem suspicious to me.

Those who did not attack at all should be considered on a case by case basis.

Obviously group 1 contains the most people to sort through.
1) Barkeep, AlanT, Spleen, Thomkal, Anxiety, LSG, Jonathan, Bonegavel

Group 2 only has Mister Sinister in it. I think it would make complete sense for him to explain why he bucked his team in order to help kill Ironman.
2) Talgian
I don't remember Venom's or deadpool's reasons for not voting yesterday. I remember Storm's reason as has already been talked about today.
3) Raiders, Swaggs, Grammaticus

I think for today my own thoughts are to focus on groups 1 & 2:

1) Barkeep, AlanT, Spleen, Thomkal, Anxiety, LSG, Jonathan, Bonegavel
2) Talgian

Obviously I am in that list, but I gave pretty detailed reasons both two days ago why I would have chosen Ironman, as well as yesterday for a horseman if I was Apocolypse. I can't say the same for many of the people on the list.

Perhaps I am being a bit of a self-preservationist, but I'll probably look heavier at Anxiety, LSG, Jonathan, Bonegavel and Talgian today.

Thomkal

01-19-2007, 10:24 AM

(Mandarin)

Bah! How has the Hulk gathered so much opposition? There are many in our ranks that will be hard to bring down. As one of his teammates in FORCE I would feel bound to defend such an attack!

(Cannonball)

"As ah said Mr. Mandarin. I'm not calling for an attack on the Hulk. Only that he needs to be looked at."

Talgian

01-19-2007, 10:26 AM

Group 2 only has Mister Sinister in it. I think it would make complete sense for him to explain why he bucked his team in order to help kill Ironman.
Sure thing. As I explained repeatedly yesterday, real life kept on throwing things at me, but I believe in the importance of a first day lynch. So I voted early, not knowing if I'd return, and I was unable to get back. As I stated yesterday, Iron Man seemed to be the consensus.

Now, let me point something out. My team consists of 2 people. It wasn't like I was exactly going against the will of 3 people. Rather, Dr. Doom's attack was clearly motivated by ego alone (Magneto insulted him), and I did not feel it was prudent to follow that path, especially since there was really no evidence against Magneto. Thus, I made the snap judgement that with limited time, it was important to do something that makes at least a little sense, so I went for Iron Man.

-Talgian

Alan T

01-19-2007, 10:28 AM

Sure thing. As I explained repeatedly yesterday, real life kept on throwing things at me, but I believe in the importance of a first day lynch. So I voted early, not knowing if I'd return, and I was unable to get back. As I stated yesterday, Iron Man seemed to be the consensus.

Now, let me point something out. My team consists of 2 people. It wasn't like I was exactly going against the will of 3 people. Rather, Dr. Doom's attack was clearly motivated by ego alone (Magneto insulted him), and I did not feel it was prudent to follow that path, especially since there was really no evidence against Magneto. Thus, I made the snap judgement that with limited time, it was important to do something that makes at least a little sense, so I went for Iron Man.

-Talgian

I thought Juggernaut was on your team as well?

Talgian

01-19-2007, 10:33 AM

I thought Juggernaut was on your team as well?
I didn't think that was official, as Doom hadn't said join or whatever. If you only need one person on the team to admit new members, then it is official. Either way, Juggernaut didn't go for Magneto either, so since all three of us went different ways, it's hardly "bucking" the team.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 10:39 AM

My team is full of action action action! We shoot first think later! Ironman was a great choice for us to go after as Warpath and others had presented solid cases against him. It did not work out for us this time, but we have learned our lesson as far as following the mutants

Grammaticus

01-19-2007, 10:39 AM

(Mandarin)

Bah! How has the Hulk gathered so much opposition? There are many in our ranks that will be hard to bring down. As one of his teammates in FORCE I would feel bound to defend such an attack!

(Venom)

Agreed,

If someone attacks HULK, you are going to get attacked. At least the first person to do it!

Alan T

01-19-2007, 10:43 AM

I didn't think that was official, as Doom hadn't said join or whatever. If you only need one person on the team to admit new members, then it is official. Either way, Juggernaut didn't go for Magneto either, so since all three of us went different ways, it's hardly "bucking" the team.

Fair enough, just for the record, I came out with my thoughts on what type of votes would be suspicious to me before I put the names of who voted to the list. I think its important to keep this type of voting history in mind for long term, but I doubt I'll drive to vote for you today at least. I'm more interested in looking at one of the others I listed. I probably would rather vote for one of the more quiet types there that piled onto Ironman, but Im mostly trying to get conversation going.

Just trying to get other people's thoughts on stuff too.

LoneStarGirl

01-19-2007, 10:44 AM

Perhaps I am being a bit of a self-preservationist, but I'll probably look heavier at Anxiety, LSG, Jonathan, Bonegavel and Talgian today.

That is almost all of LaResistance! I think if you or your team goes after any of us, you would be deeply sorry. If you are set at looking at somebody on your pathetic little list, maybe you should focus your energy on Mr Sinister.

Alan T

01-19-2007, 10:46 AM

(Venom)

Agreed,

If someone attacks HULK, you are going to get attacked. At least the first person to do it!

I don't understand what the Hulk has done to gather so much attention. To be honest right now it feels like to me that people are trying to continue to eliminate a certain type of role.

My vote for Ironman yesterday was because of non character reasons. Today though with people aiming at Hulk it feels almost like people are trying to take out the same type of character as Ironman. To me when i try to think of what type of character that is and combine it with what seems like happened last night (at least possibly).. it makes me feel very uneasy about those pushing to kill the Hulk right now.

Talgian

01-19-2007, 10:46 AM

AlanT, I completely agree that that kind of analysis is extremely beneficial. You asked me to explain my actions, so I did, and I think that clears things up.

I will be out until about 2:30, and I'm sure there will be many developments by then.

Alan T

01-19-2007, 10:47 AM

That is almost all of LaResistance! I think if you or your team goes after any of us, you would be deeply sorry. If you are set at looking at somebody on your pathetic little list, maybe you should focus your energy on Mr Sinister.

Unlike your team, he has at least given a reason for his vote. While I am keeping my eye on him, I feel a little better about him than the response you gave this morning which felt pretty Apocolypsish to me. "We just voted Ironman because your team did. Teach us to follow you!"

spleen1015

01-19-2007, 10:50 AM

Unlike your team, he has at least given a reason for his vote. While I am keeping my eye on him, I feel a little better about him than the response you gave this morning which felt pretty Apocolypsish to me. "We just voted Ironman because your team did. Teach us to follow you!"

Warpath, Captain Marvel is a follower. She was looking for the members of her team to tell her what do to yesterday. Then, for some reason they deemed her the leader of the pack and waited for her to move.

I would mind seeing her take the fall today. Her idle threats mean nothing.

Thomkal

01-19-2007, 10:57 AM

I don't understand what the Hulk has done to gather so much attention. To be honest right now it feels like to me that people are trying to continue to eliminate a certain type of role.

My vote for Ironman yesterday was because of non character reasons. Today though with people aiming at Hulk it feels almost like people are trying to take out the same type of character as Ironman. To me when i try to think of what type of character that is and combine it with what seems like happened last night (at least possibly).. it makes me feel very uneasy about those pushing to kill the Hulk right now.

(Cannonball)

It's not what Hulk has done, its who he is. If he's good, he's most likely our most powerful ally, if not he's our biggest threat. For the third time now I say I am not calling for an attack on him, because that would be foolish at this point. Only that he be looked at by our seer-types, nothing more.

I am leaning towards the same people you are considering though Warpath, as I just think it was too easy for an evil to hide amongst my fellow Iron Man attackers.