Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens - Game over!

[Thomkal]

:::a piece of what's left of Cannonball floats down and lands on Magneto's corpse::: :)

[Poli]

This game needs to get entertaining over the next 14 hours. I don't want to leave bored. I want to be entertained. :)

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

At least the 2 tonight weren't of the 12 and only 1 night attack for Evil.

The remains

Schmidty (Hulk)
Path12 (Silver Surfer)
Blade6119 (Moon Knight)
DaddyTorgo (Professor X)
Qwikshot (Gambit)
Ardent Enthusiast (Daredevil)
Bonegavel (Wolverine)
Jonathan Ezarik (Spiderman)
gi (Captain Britain)
Raiders Army (Deadpool)
ntndeadcon (Mandarin)
Mr Wednesday (Mathemanic)
Grammaticus (Venom)


5 remaining are of the 12
5 remaining are Heroes
3 remaining are Apoc and 2 horseman

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll be going to bed here shortly. i work early tomorrow, and so i will be home around 1pm EST. Tomorrow I really hope we can hear from some of those who have not been cleared by ardent or myself about why exactly they ought to be trusted, and who they distrust and why. schmidty included...

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

Regardless of what happens, this is the only list of people that I can truly trust.

(Wolverine)
(Professor X)
(Captain Britain)
(Mandarin)

And these are the remaining.

(Hulk)
(Silver Surfer)
(Moon Knight)
(Gambit)
(Daredevil)
(Spiderman)
(Deadpool)
(Mathemanic)
(Venom)


Let's pick off this list and as long as the 4 of us aren't all Plain Heroes (unlikely), we should win.

[hoopsguy]

Damage Report:
Storm: 16
Magneto: 14
Professor X: 12

[Bonegavel]

(ooc) off to bed. I need to be at work tomorrow by 7am. If I'm not dead, see you here tomorrow around 9, 10 am unless I wake up really early and can jump on here before work. (/ooc)

[DaddyTorgo]

wolvie...you need to trust gambit. i clear him.

[Raiders Army]

wolvie...you need to trust gambit. i clear him.

*Deadpool*

Just so you know, I'm gonna attack you tomorrow with a special attack if you're still living. How you're alive I have no idea.

[Grammaticus]

*Deadpool*

Just so you know, I'm gonna attack you tomorrow with a special attack if you're still living. How you're alive I have no idea.

Me too, bye bye Dr. X you are full of crapola!

[Grammaticus]

Actually, assuming I'm here, I might attack DD instead. This is just the right time to test this circle of narcicism.

[Grammaticus]

Oh and I owe you an apology Magneto. I actually feel bad that I misread you. Just happy that you are not one of the twelve.

[Poli]

Actually, I wouldn't mind a night kill of myself. It'd save me the trouble of doing the write up to let st.cronin know what's going on...but I doubt any of you would benefit from it.

[Poli]

If that is the night action, I'd hope the mods would give me the courtesy to know in advance so I know not to try and get cronin up to speed. I'd just shut my mouth until it's official I die.

[Grammaticus]

I think we all know that you will be here tomorrow.

[Poli]

NM, cronin just asked for the write up. Guess I'll get to work.

[Poli]

I think we all know that you will be here tomorrow.
Yeah, I won't be that lucky.

[st.cronin]

I haven't even started reading the thread yet, guys. I probably won't be completely caught up until Saturday. I have a very limited amount of free time on Friday, but I'll do my best.

[Poli]

PM sent, cronin.

[Grammaticus]

I think this is now officially the WW game with the most posts!

[st.cronin]

I think this is now officially the WW game with the most posts!

Luckily none of them actually count.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I guess I'll get it out there right now, I'm going to be unavailable from ca. 6 pm (probably as late as 6:15) until most likely after 10 pm due to a hockey game (ND hosting Miami U).

[Poli]

Cronin just got a 58 PM message dump in one mighty PM!

[gi]

<Captain Britain>

Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these two: Deadpool and Venom

[hoopsguy]

PMs to start now, results to follow. Should be a little faster with the increasing body count reducing the total number of PMs to send ...

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"I trust X, I am one of the twelve. This much I know."

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"I did not believe that Magneto was part of Apoc's plan. While I have attacked Juggernaut and Storm, and while they were not horsemen, they weren't of the 12. I specifically attacked Juggernaut to support Hawkeye in his blaze of glory because I did not believe him to be evil. I don't believe that a person of evil would use a special attack to wipe out a fellow compatriot when there was a slim margin that they could still get away like Venom attacking Doom. I think Deadpool has been persistent in attacking Doom as well."

ooc: I'll wait more until after the night moves post has been posted.

[DaddyTorgo]

got my pm. unlike any other pm I have gotten any night. apoc appeared to me (though not to tell me who he was) and personally gave me the name of wolverine. not sure if this was a ruse tomake wolvie trusted or to get us to kill one of the 12 but its one of the two...back to work. home in like 4 hours

[hoopsguy]

With two more heroes falling, could the forces of Apocalypse be excused if they were to show some glee? This would be a great time for the villain to appear and lay out his deadly plan, detail by detail, to his overmatched foes. But that does not happen, at least not on this night.

There are no blood-curdling screams in the night. You awake in the morning to do a head count and find that once again there is a missing person. That would be Wolverine. A search reveals his adamantium skeleton strewn across the deck - it appears Apocalypse didn't need that part for his mad science experiment.

Day 7 has begun.

[Qwikshot]

(Wolverine)

At least the 2 tonight weren't of the 12 and only 1 night attack for Evil.

The remains

Schmidty (Hulk)
Path12 (Silver Surfer)
Blade6119 (Moon Knight)
DaddyTorgo (Professor X) vouched for Gambit and Capt. America
Qwikshot (Gambit) vouched by Prof X
Ardent Enthusiast (Daredevil)
Jonathan Ezarik (Spiderman)
gi (Captain Britain) vouched for by Capt. America and Prof X
Raiders Army (Deadpool)
ntndeadcon (Mandarin) killed Marvel
Mr Wednesday (Mathemanic)
Grammaticus (Venom)


5 remaining are of the 12
5 remaining are Heroes
3 remaining are Apoc and 2 horseman


Update?

[Raiders Army]

ATTACK PROFESSOR X

PM coming hoops.

*Deadpool*

Listen baldy, I've been gunning for you and I think you're the one. Something doesn't smell right about you.

[Qwikshot]

ooc:

Looking outside of character...how many of us are comic gurus? If I was Apoc but didn't know comics, would I decide by player or by characters I knew? Surely, if you only knew popular characters you would lean towards that because you have a background on them (i.e. Hulk, Spiderman, Magneto, Storm) because you know of them from movies/tv. Or you would just pick at random and grab a few unknown characters because you would be interested in a few that most poeple would know of or understand their powers...

Apoc whoever they are chose at least Doom who is quite known and Capt. Marvel, who I would say is quite unknown (there was discussion as to whether this was the male character or the female character that came after because the male character died of cancer and was not revived), Doom is just a given and was played to perfectly by WVU. Marvel was shifted once it was determined how the character was "supposed" to be played. So Apoc sprinked a known with I would say an unknown...so now let's equate to the players...I've been out of the werewolf game for a bit...was LSG a consistent player, was WVU? If they're consistent, then maybe APOC is picking via players he/she is comfortable with...

just my 2 cents...were getting close to midnight.

[hoopsguy]

Your head count reveals one more interesting tidbit. The brutish Hulk is nowhere to be found, but there is a small man who appears to be wearing his torn purple pants! He seems rather intimidated and lost, and a little agitated ...

[gi]

With two more heroes falling, could the forces of Apocalypse be excused if they were to show some glee? This would be a great time for the villain to appear and lay out his deadly plan, detail by detail, to his overmatched foes. But that does not happen, at least not on this night.

There are no blood-curdling screams in the night. You awake in the morning to do a head count and find that once again there is a missing person. That would be Wolverine. A search reveals his adamantium skeleton strewn across the deck - it appears Apocalypse didn't need that part for his mad science experiment.

Day 7 has begun.

I'm raising a pint in your honor Wolverine. I fully trusted you in the end.

I find it interesting that the Prof took a lot of damage yesterday and claimed he only had 3 energy. Deadpool might be correct in attacking him.

[Raiders Army]

Your head count reveals one more interesting tidbit. The brutish Hulk is nowhere to be found, but there is a small man who appears to be wearing his torn purple pants! He seems rather intimidated and lost, and a little agitated ...

*Deadpool*

Did his pants stretch back? I don't need to see that.

[Raiders Army]

I'm raising a pint in your honor Wolverine. I fully trusted you in the end.

I find it interesting that the Prof took a lot of damage yesterday and claimed he only had 3 energy. Deadpool might be correct in attacking him.

*Deadpool*

Hells ya! Attack him before he gets someone to protect him with an invisible shield or they yell "Wonder Twin powers activate! Form of a giant penis to protect Professor X!"

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Out for the morning. Probably won't check in until lunchtime.

[gi]

*Deadpool*

Hells ya! Attack him before he gets someone to protect him with an invisible shield or they yell "Wonder Twin powers activate! Form of a giant penis to protect Professor X!"

Yee Yanks are over the top....

That shield was mine.....

[Bonegavel]

(ooc, obviously)

Wow, what a great game! I'm hooked, although I admit I won't be joining one soon since the time commitment is HUGE.

Thanks to everyone for putting up with Wolvie and me as a first timer. Had a great run and am looking forward to the ending.
(/ooc)

[Alan T]

(ooc, obviously)

Wow, what a great game! I'm hooked, although I admit I won't be joining one soon since the time commitment is HUGE.

Thanks to everyone for putting up with Wolvie and me as a first timer. Had a great run and am looking forward to the ending.
(/ooc)


Was good having you. I thought you did great for a first time :)

Not all WW games have to be a huge time commitment, people put in all kinds of varying time and effort to them. I'll be glad to see you as well as some of the other first time players (gi, and Im sure there are others Im forgetting) if you join other games in the future :)

[Qwikshot]

ooc:

From the surviving list...5 I would say are well known characters...(Spiderman, Prof X, Daredevil, Hulk and Venom)

7 I would say are more vague (Silver Surfer, Gambit, Deadpool, Capt. Britain, Mathemanic, Moon Knight and Mandarin - I know that Silver Surfer and Gambit are better known in comic circles, but the other 5 I barely know)

If you were an evil monster bent on destruction who would you have on your list

[st.cronin]

attack Mathemanic

I will check back around noon my time, and then will be done for the day.

[hoopsguy]

Bruce Banner grows increasingly agitated as he shivers and fears for his life at the hands of unknown enemies. He is not capable of carrying on the type of conversation you would expect from one with his supposed intellect. You see his body begin to ripple, and grow, as the transformation back to the Incredible Hulk is complete.

The green behemoth is back. For those who may doubt the character of the Hulk, there is a feeling of an opportunity lost.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I find it interesting that the Prof took a lot of damage yesterday and claimed he only had 3 energy. Deadpool might be correct in attacking him.
Only two kills in a day, and he took the least damage of the three. I don't doubt he had more than enough damage to kill him if Magneto and Storm hadn't had more.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Daredevil, if you want to force me into doing something rash, that's a good way to do it. :(

[Mr. Wednesday]

Double dola, X, if you've got a new member of the 12, please let us know ASAP so I don't misdirect an attack.

[Poli]

attack Mathemanic

I will check back around noon my time, and then will be done for the day.


And with that, I will officially bow out of the game.

Thanks, everyone.

[DaddyTorgo]

wolvie was the new name that I got last night as I said in my pm earlier. apoc actually appeared in my mind (without a clue as to who he is) and conversed with me a lil and gave me wolvie's name. said he'd give me the last tomorrow if I am still alive.

guess it doesn't matter numbers-wise though. *shrug* its just one persn you don't know.

just ask yourselves this...why is deadpool attacking a doubly (or is it tripley) vouched member of the 12 at this stage of the game guys??

I'm dead now I'm sure. I would have been like...6 points past dead yesterday.

those left who are good...look at RA. look at all the others who were not cleared by me. I will be around all afternoon if anyone wants to discuss

[gi]

<Captain Britain>

Prof - Give us a list of those people before you sign off into the deep night.

I'll consider putting attacks towards Deadpool (RA) after I hear what the others think.

[DaddyTorgo]

gramm and RA guys. both attacking me. obviously I mistrust them because of that. I don't they are both evil as that would be a ballsy play. but I'd lay pretty good odds that one of the two is. maybe gram? and RA is just sadly misguided??

[DaddyTorgo]

gi...I have 8 mins left on my break. look for the big list/post by me around like...2pm est. I get out of work at 12:30. I will lay out all I know and thoughts on everyone left.

[path12]

PM sent, cronin.

(ooc) BTW Ardent, my condolences for the loss of your friend. My thoughts are with you. Now, Daredevil, that's another matter entirely.... ;) (/ooc)

[path12]

(ooc, obviously)

Wow, what a great game! I'm hooked, although I admit I won't be joining one soon since the time commitment is HUGE.

Thanks to everyone for putting up with Wolvie and me as a first timer. Had a great run and am looking forward to the ending.
(/ooc)

(ooc) Enjoyed having you in the game. Alan's right, they're not all this intense time-wise! (/ooc)

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

I don't have a problem with Deadpool's move. I find the Daredevil attack on Mathemanic interesting. Don't quite know what that means yet.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Having clarified that I don't need to attack quickly to get my attack in, I will give full consideration to how to direct my attack (and energy) today.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Starting with what I believe to be the final recap hoops posted...
Attack recap, as requested by Schmidty - please notify me of corrections:

Post #3530 (6:13PM) Venom attacks Magneto (special - withering blow)
Post #3543 (6:38PM) Wolverine attacks Storm (claws)
Post #3547 (6:41PM) Britain attacks Storm (punch)
Post #3551 (6:50PM) Mandarin attacks Magneto (karate chop)
Post #3584 (7:45PM) Deadpool attacks Storm (gun)
Post #3598 (8:57PM) Storm attacks Professor X (lightning)
Post #3599 (8:57PM) Hulk attacks Magneto (fist)
Post #3619 (9:15PM) Magneto attacks Storm
Post #3695 (9:55PM) Mathemanic attacks Storm (psionic blast)
Post #3697 (9:56PM) Moon Knight attacks Storm (crescent dart)
Post #3701 (9:57PM) Gambit attacks Storm
Post #3704 (9:59PM) Daredevil attacks Storm


(my additions begin with post 3598)

[Grammaticus]

gramm and RA guys. both attacking me. obviously I mistrust them because of that. I don't they are both evil as that would be a ballsy play. but I'd lay pretty good odds that one of the two is. maybe gram? and RA is just sadly misguided??

That is very interesting as I have not attacked you.

[Grammaticus]

I think the prof X is not telling the truth and is one of the bad dudes.

Whoever thinks he is so confirmed, please enlighten me. I DO plan on attacking him. Just waiting to see where others are going or want to go, in order to decide what type of attack to use.

[gi]

I think the prof X is not telling the truth and is one of the bad dudes.

Whoever thinks he is so confirmed, please enlighten me. I DO plan on attacking him. Just waiting to see where others are going or want to go, in order to decide what type of attack to use.

Captain America said he was on the side of good before his death. If anyone attacks the Prof causing him to die and the Prof is good, they are next.

[Grammaticus]

Captain America said he was on the side of good before his death. If anyone attacks the Prof causing him to die and the Prof is good, they are next.

How did Cpt. America know the prof was good?

[Grammaticus]

Was Cpt A guessing or did he confirm something that is solid or did he have a special ability that allowed the flow of reliable knowledge?

Cpt B I know that you want to believe Cpt A's info is good because he confirmed you. But how solid is the info?

[Blade6119]

HOOPS/TYRITH, I DID NOT RECIEVE A NIGHT RESULTS PM. WAS MY ACTION THAT MUCH OF A FAILURE IT WASNT WORTH EVEN NOTING???

[Blade6119]

Captain America said he was on the side of good before his death. If anyone attacks the Prof causing him to die and the Prof is good, they are next.

He said he was about 85% on the side of good(he didnt say that number, but thats what i approximate what he said to). He didnt go as far to say X was clear, just that he trusted him

[hoopsguy]

HOOPS/TYRITH, I DID NOT RECIEVE A NIGHT RESULTS PM. WAS MY ACTION THAT MUCH OF A FAILURE IT WASNT WORTH EVEN NOTING???

Gah - coming now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[Grammaticus]

Hey, does anybody have a tool box?

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"I just want to add something...much as I love Prof X vouching for me...his ability is to get premonitions about who is of the 12...here's the problem...it still doesn't clear the remainder...it's not a very useful power...because Prof X has yet to find one of the horsemen...so I'm just guessing, but is his power just to verify what really isn't that important to heroes and the 12 which is that we're good, as opposed to actively seeking and finding the horsemen, which I'd think would be far more effective...if I didn't just go and confuse myself....point is, I like being vouched for, but only if it's a good guy doing it. I'm not sure if I want to attack Prof X like all of you, but I'm grasping at who's left...I'm also irritated by Spiderman...I just thought he'd be far more useful....and his spidey sense isn't worth much in finding Apoc or the horsemen...all I know is that I'm mainly firepower...I have no sensing ability, so you point me at it, I blast it, I move on...I feel like I'm the gun, but I'm not sure if the triggerman is for good or not...frustrating...and dammit, I miss Rogue."

[Qwikshot]

(ooc)

On conversions...I don't know if it's possible in this game...but I would say that I think it would be unlikely that Apoc and the horsemen could convert the 12, perhaps one of the heroes, but not the 12. I was told in a PM that I was of the 12, but this is only corroborated by Prof X. Which is why I'm uneasy about attacking him, because he stated as such before I got a PM as such...

[Grammaticus]

(ooc)

On conversions...I don't know if it's possible in this game...but I would say that I think it would be unlikely that Apoc and the horsemen could convert the 12, perhaps one of the heroes, but not the 12. I was told in a PM that I was of the 12, but this is only corroborated by Prof X. Which is why I'm uneasy about attacking him, because he stated as such before I got a PM as such...

From whom did you get the PM? Only the bad guys are supposed to know the identity of the 12.

[Qwikshot]

Bruce Banner grows increasingly agitated as he shivers and fears for his life at the hands of unknown enemies. He is not capable of carrying on the type of conversation you would expect from one with his supposed intellect. You see his body begin to ripple, and grow, as the transformation back to the Incredible Hulk is complete.

The green behemoth is back. For those who may doubt the character of the Hulk, there is a feeling of an opportunity lost.

This was interesting, but kinda short....

[Qwikshot]

From whom did you get the PM? Only the bad guys are supposed to know the identity of the 12.


I only know that I am one of the 12....got in a morning review of night events.

[Grammaticus]

Also, Prof X is supposed to get a premonition of who the 12 are, but he gets a visit from Apoc. giving him the 12 that waskilled last night?

Yeah right, he does not want to give us anything we can use as it is getting down to a small number. Basically if he gives us a 12. The bad guys would need to kill that person so as not to take out another person that we might day kill in error. Or allow us to increase our chances of hitting on a bad guy. Basically, we are not getting anything else of value from X period.

Might as well kill him and see he is bad or confirm that he was giving decent info. It is his time to die.

[Grammaticus]

This was interesting, but kinda short....

Yep, we were picking our butts when we could have been asking ole Bruce some questions.....

[Grammaticus]

I believe the Apocalypse visit that X speaks of was presented in order to lay cover for why he did not gat anything good. You know, "Apoc must have messed up my power or maybe Apoc has to pick who I can see, etc.".

In the past X would wait until the started to give us anything. This time he shot out the Apoc visit and Wolvie info as fast as he could in order to beat the posted night results, so it would look like he actually was getting true info. But too bad it was not simething we could use. Once again, right?

[Qwikshot]

ooc: Having reread the PM, it states IF I'm one of the 12...my bad...sorries.

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"My apologies X but it seems dubious...I'm having great doubts about your character and true intention of mission."

[Grammaticus]

I believe the Apocalypse visit that X speaks of was presented in order to lay cover for why he did not gat anything good. You know, "Apoc must have messed up my power or maybe Apoc has to pick who I can see, etc.".

In the past X would wait until the started to give us anything. This time he shot out the Apoc visit and Wolvie info as fast as he could in order to beat the posted night results, so it would look like he actually was getting true info. But too bad it was not simething we could use. Once again, right?


That should read, In the past X would wait until the day started to give us anything

[path12]

Yep, we were picking our butts when we could have been asking ole Bruce some questions.....

(Silver Surfer)

Or attacking him? Could that have been a window of vulnerability?

[DaddyTorgo]

I believe the Apocalypse visit that X speaks of was presented in order to lay cover for why he did not gat anything good. You know, "Apoc must have messed up my power or maybe Apoc has to pick who I can see, etc.".

In the past X would wait until the started to give us anything. This time he shot out the Apoc visit and Wolvie info as fast as he could in order to beat the posted night results, so it would look like he actually was getting true info. But too bad it was not simething we could use. Once again, right?

actually i shot it out when i did cuz i had just gotten the PM and i was on my 10 minute break at work Gram. i'm good dammit. i havn't lied all game. but if you all want to kill me so that you can verify my info, go right ahead. It sucks cuz I'm one of the 12 and it puts us that much closer to losing, but i have absolutely no ability to defend myself. i am too low on energy to use my forcefield.

larger writeup coming, but just remember to look carefully at who votes where for me. and maybe not in the classic sense. these setups of me (whether by hoops or by the apoc player) have been very craftily done. i have a feeling there is a strong player on the wolves side.

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Gambit, my friend. You are of The 12. This I can tell you. And I am of The 12 as well. If I must die to convince you of my truthfullness then I shall go to the grave with the knowledge that my death has strengthened the conviction of the forces of good, as a martyr for the cause.

[Qwikshot]

(X)

Gambit, my friend. You are of The 12. This I can tell you. And I am of The 12 as well. If I must die to convince you of my truthfullness then I shall go to the grave with the knowledge that my death has strengthened the conviction of the forces of good, as a martyr for the cause.

(Gambit)

"This is why I have grave doubts...my doubts alone won't keep you from being harmed, as it looks likely that many are pointed at you. I will need to dwell on this..."

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

I believe it 95% likely that Deadpool's attack will kill me Gambit. And if not his, Mathemanic's.

Take the rest of those who are trusted, who will carry on my mission, and move down the list as I suggested earlier. I will lay out my thoughts in a moment.

[Grammaticus]

actually i shot it out when i did cuz i had just gotten the PM and i was on my 10 minute break at work Gram. i'm good dammit. i havn't lied all game. but if you all want to kill me so that you can verify my info, go right ahead. It sucks cuz I'm one of the 12 and it puts us that much closer to losing, but i have absolutely no ability to defend myself. i am too low on energy to use my forcefield.

larger writeup coming, but just remember to look carefully at who votes where for me. and maybe not in the classic sense. these setups of me (whether by hoops or by the apoc player) have been very craftily done. i have a feeling there is a strong player on the wolves side.

What is that supposed to mean? Hoops is the moderator. He doesn't setup players.

[Grammaticus]

(X)

Gambit, my friend. You are of The 12. This I can tell you. And I am of The 12 as well. If I must die to convince you of my truthfullness then I shall go to the grave with the knowledge that my death has strengthened the conviction of the forces of good, as a martyr for the cause.

The problem with this is that as a bad guy, you can just pick a good player and tell them they are good and of the 12. Then they will think, yeah I'm good, he must know what he is talking about. They want the part about the 12 to bee good.

If you are bad, it is likely that Gambit is good and even a decent chance he is of the twelve. But more likely he is just a hero.

[DaddyTorgo]

What is that supposed to mean? Hoops is the moderator. He doesn't setup players.

sorry, what i meant by that is whether apoc gets to pick which of the 12 are revealed to me (wouldn't be unheard of) or whether it's just bad die-rolls by hoops combined with normal play by the apoc-player

[DaddyTorgo]

The problem with this is that as a bad guy, you can just pick a good player and tell them they are good and of the 12. Then they will think, yeah I'm good, he must know what he is talking about. They want the part about the 12 to bee good.

If you are bad, it is likely that Gambit is good and even a decent chance he is of the twelve. But more likely he is just a hero.

Watch Gram try to tear down all of the trust in the game here guys. I AM GOOD. I HAVE NOT LIED.

Gram is going to try to tear apart all the trust and have you backstab each other so his side can cruise to victory.

Remember this post of his after I die and I'm proven good. I'd now lay very good odds that Gram is evil.

[Grammaticus]

Watch Gram try to tear down all of the trust in the game here guys. I AM GOOD. I HAVE NOT LIED.

Gram is going to try to tear apart all the trust and have you backstab each other so his side can cruise to victory.

Remember this post of his after I die and I'm proven good. I'd now lay very good odds that Gram is evil.

I don't mind questioning what I think is vague levels of trust at best. I'm trying to help the good guys win. In the end if you wack me, you will just see a hero or one of the twelve. Then your challenge for others to come back and read these posts will bite you in the behind.

[DaddyTorgo]

I don't mind questioning what I think is vague levels of trust at best. I'm trying to help the good guys win. In the end if you wack me, you will just see a hero or one of the twelve. Then your challenge for others to come back and read these posts will bite you in the behind.


tear down vague levels of trust? you just tried to tear apart the trust of anyone that i have cleared as a member of the 12. and we know how you feel about DD. You don't want any trust in the game at all, because you are evil!

[Mr. Wednesday]

(X)

I believe it 95% likely that Deadpool's attack will kill me Gambit. And if not his, Mathemanic's.
(Mathemanic)

I haven't attacked you, and you're not up my list of possibles.

[path12]

tear down vague levels of trust? you just tried to tear apart the trust of anyone that i have cleared as a member of the 12. and we know how you feel about DD. You don't want any trust in the game at all, because you are evil!

(Silver Surfer)

I don't think Venom is saying anything different than a few of us have put out there over the past day or so. I think what the problem is for me with you is twofold: 1) Nothing you've come up with has pointed us in the direction of a horseman or Apoc; 2) As what I assume is our only seer type left, you don't seem to have gotten any attention at night from evil. There's a couple of other points, such as the blind trust in DD's CoT, which I maintain is very very wrong.

Maybe you are good, I don't know. I'm waiting to see this long recap you've been promising. But one thing I do know is that I'm suspicious of more people who are IN the CoT than out of it.

But I'm sure you'll say that's just proof that I must be evil too.

[Qwikshot]

The problem with this is that as a bad guy, you can just pick a good player and tell them they are good and of the 12. Then they will think, yeah I'm good, he must know what he is talking about. They want the part about the 12 to bee good.

If you are bad, it is likely that Gambit is good and even a decent chance he is of the twelve. But more likely he is just a hero.

ooc: This is my logic too, because I know I'm good, I just don't know if I'm one of the 12. But I'm worried that if X is bad, it alludes that I am bad as well, and I know that I'm not, even if there isn't a shred of credibility to it (though I have not attacked one of the 12 yet, so I'm feeling a little good about it, just haven't hit a horsemen yet either.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Mathemanic)

I haven't attacked you, and you're not up my list of possibles.

i thought it was you who said you were going to attack me also? sorry, must have been confused. someone said it right after raider's attack this AM

[Qwikshot]

(Silver Surfer)

I don't think Venom is saying anything different than a few of us have put out there over the past day or so. I think what the problem is for me with you is twofold: 1) Nothing you've come up with has pointed us in the direction of a horseman or Apoc; 2) As what I assume is our only seer type left, you don't seem to have gotten any attention at night from evil. There's a couple of other points, such as the blind trust in DD's CoT, which I maintain is very very wrong.

Maybe you are good, I don't know. I'm waiting to see this long recap you've been promising. But one thing I do know is that I'm suspicious of more people who are IN the CoT than out of it.

But I'm sure you'll say that's just proof that I must be evil too.


(Gambit)

"The fact that Venom and Surfer are lining up with my logic frightens me because that would mean that X is of dubious intentions. What value is it for us to know who the 12 are, if the evildoers already know?"

ooc: Also, if I was evil and in a position to pick players, X would be a suitable position of influence to deceive...it's all too logical. I think not picking guys like Wolverine and Juggernaut make sense because they are tanks (I haven't cleared Hulk yet)...but X is a rarity, unlike say Doom or Magento, X is all about control with the mind. I envision Patrick Stewart every time daddy posts (Of course the bonus is seeing him in Extras...hilarious stuff).

[DaddyTorgo]

(Silver Surfer)

I don't think Venom is saying anything different than a few of us have put out there over the past day or so. I think what the problem is for me with you is twofold: 1) Nothing you've come up with has pointed us in the direction of a horseman or Apoc; 2) As what I assume is our only seer type left, you don't seem to have gotten any attention at night from evil. There's a couple of other points, such as the blind trust in DD's CoT, which I maintain is very very wrong.

Maybe you are good, I don't know. I'm waiting to see this long recap you've been promising. But one thing I do know is that I'm suspicious of more people who are IN the CoT than out of it.

But I'm sure you'll say that's just proof that I must be evil too.

i cant point you to a damm horseman. it's not in my power to do so!!

evil has prolly left me alone cuz they're not sure of how many bodyguards there are, and because it helps them since you're all wasting time debating me rather than going after them.

I don't have blind trust in DD's CoT. I have maintained that I have a two-tiered CoT all along, with people I have cleared as members of the 12 the only ones I trust completely, and people who DD has cleared (and DD himself incidently) on a lower plane.

whatever. just kill me and blast me to wherever and you'll see that i'm right.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Gambit)

"The fact that Venom and Surfer are lining up with my logic frightens me because that would mean that X is of dubious intentions. What value is it for us to know who the 12 are, if the evildoers already know?"

ooc: Also, if I was evil and in a position to pick players, X would be a suitable position of influence to deceive...it's all too logical. I think not picking guys like Wolverine and Juggernaut make sense because they are tanks (I haven't cleared Hulk yet)...but X is a rarity, unlike say Doom or Magento, X is all about control with the mind. I envision Patrick Stewart every time daddy posts (Of course the bonus is seeing him in Extras...hilarious stuff).

patrick stewart is teh hotness.

(says the trekker)

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Gambit)

"The fact that Venom and Surfer are lining up with my logic frightens me because that would mean that X is of dubious intentions. What value is it for us to know who the 12 are, if the evildoers already know?"
(Mathemanic)

It's of quite a lot of value, because part of the way the villains can win this is by having us do the dirty work (killing the 12) for them. If we won't kill the 12, then they have to do it by a mixture of day stuff (risking sticking out) and night kills.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

2) As what I assume is our only seer type left, you don't seem to have gotten any attention at night from evil.

Why would they take him out? He's not scanning them. He's giving us information that they already have. The longer he's in play, the more we doubt him. This plays directly into Apocalypse's hands. And once X dies and turns up good (hopefully), that will clear once and for all Britain and Gambit (and whomever else X might find out before he dies). So, why would they get rid of him?

I'm not sold 100% that X is good, but I don't subscribe to the theory that just because he hasn't been killed at night means he's evil.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

Why would they take him out? He's not scanning them. He's giving us information that they already have. The longer he's in play, the more we doubt him. This plays directly into Apocalypse's hands. And once X dies and turns up good (hopefully), that will clear once and for all Britain and Gambit (and whomever else X might find out before he dies). So, why would they get rid of him?

I'm not sold 100% that X is good, but I don't subscribe to the theory that just because he hasn't been killed at night means he's evil.

SPIDER-MAN

thanks Spidey and Weds.

sorry, i've been a bit lazy with my whole big long "if i die" writeup. i'll have it up before i die. and i don't have any amazing insights into anyone. just the same old stuff i've been beating for days. not that any of it has led to a horseman, proving yet again that my skills in this game are not in being good and puzzling stuff out.

[path12]

Why would they take him out? He's not scanning them. He's giving us information that they already have. The longer he's in play, the more we doubt him. This plays directly into Apocalypse's hands. And once X dies and turns up good (hopefully), that will clear once and for all Britain and Gambit (and whomever else X might find out before he dies). So, why would they get rid of him?

I'm not sold 100% that X is good, but I don't subscribe to the theory that just because he hasn't been killed at night means he's evil.

SPIDER-MAN

(Silver Surfer)

What you're saying is absolutely a valid point. It certainly could be the case that he is good and evil is letting him alone because it makes him more suspicious as time goes on.

But he also came out very early, and as Mathemanic noted, it is very much in evil's interest that we do not know who the 12 are.

I think he's backing away from his faith in the CoT a bit now, and I'm too busy and too lazy right now to go and dig up the quotes, but it certainly was my impression that he was very much pushing the idea of those outside of the list. And we see from last night with Magneto and Storm how effective that was. I still maintain that the people not on the list are the ones I have the best feeling about at the moment.

[Blade6119]

whatever. just kill me and blast me to wherever and you'll see that i'm right.

This is a terrible idea if your telling the truth. There are four 12 left, if your one that 3 left. They kill tonight thats 2 left. Then we have three evil and 2 twelve, we cant win.

Realistically, were basically at endgame today unless other players can nightkill like ntn and bonegavel could.

[DaddyTorgo]

i am telling the truth blade. and it is a horrible idea, but i'm likely going to die anyway thanks to RA's attack (and likely another attack or two I'd guess).

You all are going to have to come together very quickly and agree on a list of targets to work down and attack in order of strength and probability. and hope that you have players with strong powers on your side.

[Blade6119]

i am telling the truth blade. and it is a horrible idea, but i'm likely going to die anyway thanks to RA's attack (and likely another attack or two I'd guess).

You all are going to have to come together very quickly and agree on a list of targets to work down and attack in order of strength and probability. and hope that you have players with strong powers on your side.

I can power up my crescent dart to do more then 1 dmg, but i cant kill someone alone. Who is with me? And who do you want to kill?

MOON KNIGHT FORMS TEAM "LAST DEFENSE"

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I wonder if there are clues in how Apocalypse and the Horsemen are killing the 12, so I went back over the night write-ups and here's a list:

Night 1: No kill, blocked
Night 2: Sinister was beheaded/glowing blade
Night 3: Warpath was killed by Apocalypse/most of torso missing/Marvel killed by Mandarin
Night 4: Doom killed by Wolverine, no Apocalypse kill
Night 5: Captain America no idea how he died/no struggle
Night 6: Wolverine dies with no alarm waking us/skeleton strewn about

Since there was no other kill on night 4 and Wolverine turned up good, I think it's safe to say that Apoc.'s kills are rotated. This means that my watching Hulk and Deadpool in their rooms doesn't clear them at all.

I'm really starting to wonder about Deadpool. Sinister was killed with a glowing blade, and one of Deadpool's weapons is a sword. Also, his attack against Doom was ineffective.

Do the descriptions of the deaths of Warpath and Wolverine sound like the work of someone with immense strength?

Captain America's death confuses me. There was no struggle and we have no way of knowing how he died. What does this imply? Did his killer sneak up on him? Or was it someone he trusted? Maybe it was some kind of mental attack that wouldn't show any kind of struggle?

The write-up doesn't say if there was a struggle between Wolverine and his attacker, just that we didn't wake up due to a scream. I wouldn't expect Wolverine to scream anyway. Does that mean anything? With his skeleton strewn about, it sounds like he was ripped apart, but we didn't hear anything.

I'm not sure what to make of any of this, but I thought I would throw it out to see what everyone else thinks.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

blade, who do you propose we attack? how does spidey's analysis of the night-kills seem? Anything strike you. At this point I might as well use my remaining energy, so I could throw 3 at someone. I would say RA if it is up to me, but I am willing to abide by the decision of the rest of the heroes.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

One thing that really bothers me about X's announcement regarding his PM is this: Why tell us that Apocalypse told you Wolverine's name? Why not just tell us the name you received was Wolverine's? By saying that it was Apocalypse himself who gave you the name, it sounds like you knew Wolverine was dead and were using that as cover for when you announced the name you got.

SPIDER-MAN

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Has anyone vouched for Deadpool?

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

blade, who do you propose we attack? how does spidey's analysis of the night-kills seem? Anything strike you. At this point I might as well use my remaining energy, so I could throw 3 at someone. I would say RA if it is up to me, but I am willing to abide by the decision of the rest of the heroes.
Quite frankly id vote for either Gramm, path, or spidey. I really dont think lynching deadpool would be a good thing, as mislead as he may be.

I dont think the analysis spidey did, while nice, means a thing. I think it does clearly indicate they are getting more powerful with their night kills as the game progresses(from using swords, to blowing up torsos, to killing silently, to completely tearing someone apart). I think it is quite simply just hoops using flavor.

I tend to trust the hulk too, for whatever reason. I just dont get the evil vibe there.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm down with throwing something at gram.

as for why i told you that Apoc gave me Wolverine's name Jon, it's because i'm not holding anything back. and i also posted that before i read the night results (note how my post came first and then the results), and then went back to work and didn't even know the results came up and wolvie was dead until like 10:30am est.

[Blade6119]

i'm down with throwing something at gram.

as for why i told you that Apoc gave me Wolverine's name Jon, it's because i'm not holding anything back. and i also posted that before i read the night results (note how my post came first and then the results), and then went back to work and didn't even know the results came up and wolvie was dead until like 10:30am est.
I dont fault you there..you have a 50/50 shot of getting the night kill as your scan if my math is right.

I do think apoc coming to you just further emphasizes this game is on the line today.

[Blade6119]

HOOPS/TYRITH, DO I PUT HOW MUCH ENERGY I CHARGE IT WITH IN THREAD, OR BY PM?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I dont think the analysis spidey did, while nice, means a thing. I think it does clearly indicate they are getting more powerful with their night kills as the game progresses(from using swords, to blowing up torsos, to killing silently, to completely tearing someone apart). I think it is quite simply just hoops using flavor.

One thing you can count on is that I will not go out of my way to protect either side in the writeups. In some cases there is information that can be gleaned from them, especially in conjunction with the damage reports, but they should on the balance (and hopefully each one on their own) be impartial.

I think it's more than just flavor. These kills are clues to us, and I think we would be foolish to completely ignore them.

SPIDER-MAN

[hoopsguy]

Blade, you can always post the energy in the thread. But that makes the information available for everyone. So, if you are interested in keeping some level of secrecy around your energy levels and damage, you have the option (and I encourage people to use it) to PM this info to the moderator.

[Blade6119]

I think it's more than just flavor. These kills are clues to us, and I think we would be foolish to completely ignore them.

SPIDER-MAN

I agree information can be gleaned, and i told you what i thought was a major hint in the lynch previously

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Moon Knight, keep in mind that if you attack Spiderman without immobilizing him or otherwise hindering his ability to evade, your attack will miss him.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, may miss him, we don't know the full parameters of his ability.

[Blade6119]

(Mathemanic)

Moon Knight, keep in mind that if you attack Spiderman without immobilizing him or otherwise hindering his ability to evade, your attack will miss him.

We have more then enough people to lynch whoever we want, including spiderman. The first three attacks miss, but X can use his 3 energy and attack twice(two, clear seperate attacks should take three energy). Someone else uses a one energy attack. Then hes fair game...

I dont distrust him as much as i used to, but Apoc warned us his most powerful horsemen were still alive, and our best heroes that can stop them are dead or exhausted. Spiderman seems the most powerful hero left, though i could easily be mistaken.

He is still third on my list, but id vote for all 3

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm open to suggestions. i should be around pretty much up until lynch with a couple lil interruptions

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I really dont think lynching deadpool would be a good thing, as mislead as he may be.

Why do you feel good about Deadpool?

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

Why do you feel good about Deadpool?

SPIDER-MAN

He was VERY for the doom lynches early in the game. The other two people for doom early in the game were both good(Bonegavel and myself), so i assume he is too

[Jonathan Ezarik]

He was VERY for the doom lynches early in the game. The other two people for doom early in the game were both good(Bonegavel and myself), so i assume he is too

He attacked Doom twice. The first was on day two when almost everyone trusted Doom. There was no way that attack was going to lead to Doom's death. The second attack came on day four when Doom could have actually died, but Deadpool's attack did absolutely nothing to Doom.

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

He was VERY for the doom lynches early in the game. The other two people for doom early in the game were both good(Bonegavel and myself), so i assume he is too

good reason.

[Grammaticus]

This is a terrible idea if your telling the truth. There are four 12 left, if your one that 3 left. They kill tonight thats 2 left. Then we have three evil and 2 twelve, we cant win.

Realistically, were basically at endgame today unless other players can nightkill like ntn and bonegavel could.

We can still win if they cannot night kill one of the twelve.

[Mr. Wednesday]

We could also win if we managed to pull off daykilling two bad guys.

[Blade6119]

We can still win if they cannot night kill one of the twelve.

And how can we stop them? Alan is dead, wolverine is dead

[Grammaticus]

I wonder if there are clues in how Apocalypse and the Horsemen are killing the 12, so I went back over the night write-ups and here's a list:

Night 1: No kill, blocked
Night 2: Sinister was beheaded/glowing blade
Night 3: Warpath was killed by Apocalypse/most of torso missing/Marvel killed by Mandarin
Night 4: Doom killed by Wolverine, no Apocalypse kill
Night 5: Captain America no idea how he died/no struggle
Night 6: Wolverine dies with no alarm waking us/skeleton strewn about

Since there was no other kill on night 4 and Wolverine turned up good, I think it's safe to say that Apoc.'s kills are rotated. This means that my watching Hulk and Deadpool in their rooms doesn't clear them at all.

I'm really starting to wonder about Deadpool. Sinister was killed with a glowing blade, and one of Deadpool's weapons is a sword. Also, his attack against Doom was ineffective.

Do the descriptions of the deaths of Warpath and Wolverine sound like the work of someone with immense strength?

Captain America's death confuses me. There was no struggle and we have no way of knowing how he died. What does this imply? Did his killer sneak up on him? Or was it someone he trusted? Maybe it was some kind of mental attack that wouldn't show any kind of struggle?

The write-up doesn't say if there was a struggle between Wolverine and his attacker, just that we didn't wake up due to a scream. I wouldn't expect Wolverine to scream anyway. Does that mean anything? With his skeleton strewn about, it sounds like he was ripped apart, but we didn't hear anything.

I'm not sure what to make of any of this, but I thought I would throw it out to see what everyone else thinks.

SPIDER-MAN

What do you think not hearing anything from the Wolverine attack means?

[Grammaticus]

I'm not going with a Deadpool lynch. In my book he is very trusted.

I heard metal clang on the deck last night.

I'm feeling pretty much that X is bad and Spidey is next.

[Grammaticus]

And how can we stop them? Alan is dead, wolverine is dead

If the person has a defense that allows them to avoid an attack at night.

[Grammaticus]

SNEAK ATTACK on PROFESSOR X

[gi]

If the person has a defense that allows them to avoid an attack at night.

<Captain Britain>

Almost seems like the seers...we are tapped out of night time defense allowing someone to survive.

[gi]

<Captain Britain>

I'm not attacking Prof X since I still think he could be good. Anyone else have a 2nd target?

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Metal clang on the deck, huh?

Doesn't sound like X (no clang from a wheelchair, I shouldn't think) or Spidey to me.

[Mr. Wednesday]

If we want to keep X alive, we're going to need to deliver more damage to two targets than he's taken from Venom and Deadpool.

[Grammaticus]

(Mathemanic)

Metal clang on the deck, huh?

Doesn't sound like X (no clang from a wheelchair, I shouldn't think) or Spidey to me.

I assume the metal clanging on the deck is from Wolverines skeleton hitting the deck. The actual sound was something that sounded like a tool box hitting the deck.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, Venom's action greatly concerns me.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Why did it take you so long to reveal this? Did you hear anything else, or just the metal?

[Grammaticus]

(Mathemanic)

Why did it take you so long to reveal this? Did you hear anything else, or just the metal?

I asked earlier if anyone had a tool box and I wanted to see if anyone would mention sounds at night. Spiderman did and the fact nothing was heard. Why did he ask that question?

[Grammaticus]

(Mathemanic)

Why did it take you so long to reveal this? Did you hear anything else, or just the metal?

I hid in the shadows avoiding detection and at the end of the night I heard a clanging sound like a tool box being dropped, then I went to check it out and that was it. The end of night post was in the thread.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

It's getting late for me to propose other alternatives, so...
...I already have one attack on me, and it's quite possible that it's enough to kill me. (I could almost kill myself three times over right now.)

I want to hit another target, but if you want to keep X alive, the best way to do that may be to divide attacks between me and the other target.

That is, of course, unless you think we can divide enough damage between TWO other targets to keep both me and X alive.

[Grammaticus]

Right now I generally have a good level of trust for the following in order of listing:

Best:
Vemon
Mandarin
Deadpool
Moon Knight

Then:
Gambit
Silver Surfer
Cpt Britain
Dare Devil
Mathemanic

Distrust:
Spiderman
Prof X

[DaddyTorgo]

gah.

venom and deadpool...there we go.

in fact...let me call it now...venom...deadpool...maybe blade?? (trying to keep deadpool alive?) ? Or else...venom...deadpool and ??

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe it's not you blade. but venom and deadpool attacking me seems mighty suspicious to me.

i'll throw my three damage wherever it makes sense, i dunno.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(ooc) Not quite the typical game from Blade, and yet many of his actions fly in the face of being a bad dude, in that he was the only one of us to attack Captain Marvel and was also an early attacker of Doom. (/ooc)

[DaddyTorgo]

true. but not sure why else he is defending deadpool

[Blade6119]

If you decide to attack me, i will no longer defend you X...

[Blade6119]

true. but not sure why else he is defending deadpool
You want to lynch him, fine...ill even help you, but hes not my top suspect by a long shot.

[DaddyTorgo]

i don't want to attack you blade. and i'm willing to go with a more conventional "top suspect" cuz it does seem a longshot. just trying to put my "guess" out there for post-game analysis.

so how are we going to go about this?

[path12]

(ooc) Crap, everytime I start to catch up I get called into another damn meeting today. I am following and will have some thoughts later (/ooc)

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Moon Knight, you have about two minutes (literally) to tell me who your top suspect is before I shoot from the hip.

[hoopsguy]

Probably worth talking about weekend schedule here. I can run it over the weekend if players can play. If not, I would probably look at the same elongated schedule we ran last weekend (Night 7 actions due by Sunday noon, Day 8 runs through Monday 10PM EST). But I would love to keep this moving in 24 hour cycles if everyone is game.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I asked earlier if anyone had a tool box and I wanted to see if anyone would mention sounds at night. Spiderman did and the fact nothing was heard. Why did he ask that question?

:confused:

Why did I mention that about no one hearing anything when Wolverine died? Because I was analyzing the night kills, that's why. Some kills have screaming that wakes us up, some don't. I have no idea what a toolbox signifies, if anything.

One more thing: You have multiple special attacks and the ability to go out at night? And I'm the one that gets accused of being too powerful?

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

(Mathemanic)

Moon Knight, you have about two minutes (literally) to tell me who your top suspect is before I shoot from the hip.

Gramm

[Mr. Wednesday]

I like the elongated schedule.

I wish I had more input on this, but I don't.

ATTACK Silver Surfer

[Mr. Wednesday]

Damn. Sorry.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Posted the attack while you were replying that.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I haven't powered it up yet, if you'd rather I can dump the rest onto Venom.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Screw it.

ATTACK Venom

[Mr. Wednesday]

The SS attack is one point only. The Venom attack is powered up.

[DaddyTorgo]

ATTACK VENOM (ALL REMAINING ENERGY)

[ntndeacon]

Quite frankly id vote for either Gramm, path, or spidey. I really dont think lynching deadpool would be a good thing, as mislead as he may be.

I dont think the analysis spidey did, while nice, means a thing. I think it does clearly indicate they are getting more powerful with their night kills as the game progresses(from using swords, to blowing up torsos, to killing silently, to completely tearing someone apart). I think it is quite simply just hoops using flavor.

I tend to trust the hulk too, for whatever reason. I just dont get the evil vibe there.

(Mandarin)

I go back and forth on Deadpool. his attacks on doom were pretty ineffective, but he at least wwas attacking him. I could go along with any of the three you mentioned. The order of those three seems right to me as well. So I would be willing to join your group Blade and maybe get another 1/2 point or so for our hit.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Good luck the rest of day 6, I'll be catching up after the deadline.

[Blade6119]

MOON KNIGHT INVITE MANDARIN TO TEAM LAST DEFENSE

MOON KNIGHT ATTACK VENOM (CHARGED CRESCENT DART)

[ntndeacon]

Mandarin Join Team Last Defense
Attack Venom-- electric ring

[Blade6119]

MOON KNIGHT INVITE PROFESSOR XAVIER AND MATHEMANIC TO TEAM LAST DEFENSE

[Grammaticus]

ATTACK PROF X with ALL REMAINING POWER

[Grammaticus]

Been fun guys.

Good luck to the 12 and remainng heros

[Jonathan Ezarik]

ATTACK VENOM

SPIDER-MAN

[Grammaticus]

I just can't resist as I am out for the night:

Actually, I wish I could have attacked Spiderman because my other special power is to add +1 to all attacks on Spidey and I bypass all his defenses and the next guy who hit him would cause damage too - pretty cool.

Also, I could have hid at night to avoid a night kill (what I was doing last night)

JE, the sneak attack lets me gain energy in the night if that person is the lynch vote.

Also, the Withering Blow causes the attacked person to not be able to heal the next day unless they have some special healing power.

Probably nowhere near the most powerful guy, but still I had a good bit of energy stored up. so this is what you left on the table.

Sure I cannot resist, but generally information helps the good guys, so seeing my abilities may help you in some way. At least the bad guys cannot use speculation or lies on what I have done do fool you guys.

[Grammaticus]

Hmm, maybe Blade is bad. Oh hell I don't know.

[Grammaticus]

I HATE SPIDERMAN

You have all been fooled by his framing me as a bad guy.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I HATE SPIDERMAN

You have all been fooled by his framing me as a bad guy.

Again :confused:

How have I framed you?

SPIDER-MAN

[DaddyTorgo]

JOIN TEAM LAST DEFENSE

[DaddyTorgo]

wow...what a cluster-you-know-what

[hoopsguy]

DT, please leave your current team (Atlantic Alliance) before joining another team.

k, thx.

[DaddyTorgo]

whoops

LEAVE TEAM ATLANTIC ALLIANCE

JOIN TEAM LAST DEFENSE

[path12]

Probably worth talking about weekend schedule here. I can run it over the weekend if players can play. If not, I would probably look at the same elongated schedule we ran last weekend (Night 7 actions due by Sunday noon, Day 8 runs through Monday 10PM EST). But I would love to keep this moving in 24 hour cycles if everyone is game.


I think a schedule like last weekend will work best for me.

[path12]

Does anyone have a list of attacks so far?

[gi]

<Captain Britain>

Besides myself, who hasn't attacked yet?

[hoopsguy]

Attacks so far today:

Post #3781 (7:29AM) Deadpool attacks Prof X (sword)
Post #3792 (8:44AM) Daredevil attacks Math (club)
Post #3877 (4:41PM) Venom attacks Prof X (special - sneak attack)
Post #3901 (5:12PM) Math attacks Surfer (mental blast)
Post #3905 (5:15PM) Math attacks Venom (mental blast)
Post #3907 (5:15PM) ProfX attacks Venom (mental blast)
Post #3910 (5:19PM) Moon attacks Venom (dart)
Post #3911 (5:23PM) Mandarin attacks Venom (ring - electric)
Post #3913 (5:26PM) Venom attacks Prof X (punch)
Post #3915 (5:31PM) Spiderman attacks Venom (punch)

[path12]

<Captain Britain>

Besides myself, who hasn't attacked yet?

(Silver Surfer)

I haven't.

[Schmidty]

HULK DOES NOT FEEL MUCH ANGER, BUT HULK KNOWS THAT HE'S NOT AS SMART AS OTHERS, SO HULK THINK ABOUT FINISHING OLD FRIEND VENOM.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Hulk, is there anything you can tell us about when you changed to Banner?

[Raiders Army]

tear down vague levels of trust? you just tried to tear apart the trust of anyone that i have cleared as a member of the 12. and we know how you feel about DD. You don't want any trust in the game at all, because you are evil!

*Deadpool*

Pardon moi, but how can we trust who you've cleared if you've never been cleared yourself? I think you're evil and you're throwing red herrings our way and giving partial truths.

[Raiders Army]

blade, who do you propose we attack? how does spidey's analysis of the night-kills seem? Anything strike you. At this point I might as well use my remaining energy, so I could throw 3 at someone. I would say RA if it is up to me, but I am willing to abide by the decision of the rest of the heroes.

*Deadpool*

Interesting since you believed that Grammaticus was evil yet you attack me.

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Here's a quick question, Professor X: I've been calling you out and attacking you. Why the hell haven't you scanned me? Why can't you say for a fact that I'm good? Your stories don't make any sense. I fail to see why people stick to your side.

[DaddyTorgo]

RA: I CAN'T GODDAMM SCAN YOU!! I CAN'T PICK WHO TO SCAN!!!

SINISTER CLEARED ME! CAPTAIN AMERICA CLEARED ME!! DAREDEVIL CLEARED ME!!

JEEZUS!

[Blade6119]

*Deadpool*

Here's a quick question, Professor X: I've been calling you out and attacking you. Why the hell haven't you scanned me? Why can't you say for a fact that I'm good? Your stories don't make any sense. I fail to see why people stick to your side.

His claim, which seems valid to me after america said to trust him, is that every night he gets to learn one of the 12. Random, not his choice, and only one still living it looks like. He cant scan for whos good and evil, only find out whos in the 12

[Blade6119]

RA: I CAN'T GODDAMM SCAN YOU!! I CAN'T PICK WHO TO SCAN!!!

SINISTER CLEARED ME! CAPTAIN AMERICA CLEARED ME!! DAREDEVIL CLEARED ME!!

JEEZUS!
Now i know why people start drinking :p

[Qwikshot]

His claim, which seems valid to me after america said to trust him, is that every night he gets to learn one of the 12. Random, not his choice, and only one still living it looks like. He cant scan for whos good and evil, only find out whos in the 12

(gambit)

"My problem is that, that isn't useful for us...as it just spouts out the 12, nothing more...it doesn't account for heroes or the horsemen....so it's a useless trait. Surely X must have more than that...?!?"

[Blade6119]

DT, should i invite Spidey and anyone else who attacks venom into the team for the bonus, or should i worry about sabotage this late in the game?

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

ATTACK PROFESSOR X (POWER COSMIC)

Goodbye, Professor.

[Blade6119]

(gambit)

"My problem is that, that isn't useful for us...as it just spouts out the 12, nothing more...it doesn't account for heroes or the horsemen....so it's a useless trait. Surely X must have more than that...?!?"

Evil must eliminate the 12, so that implies they are good. Basically, his role allows him to clear 12 people for us. It is a great aid to us, as it confirms 12 as good, and makes the other however many far more likely to be evil.

I see it as a great power really

[Qwikshot]

Evil must eliminate the 12, so that implies they are good. Basically, his role allows him to clear 12 people for us. It is a great aid to us, as it confirms 12 as good, and makes the other however many far more likely to be evil.

I see it as a great power really


"It's a dumb power...with double kills and everything, do you expect 12 nights to pass to figure everyone out?!?"

[Jonathan Ezarik]

"It's a dumb power...with double kills and everything, do you expect 12 nights to pass to figure everyone out?!?"

If he was the only seer in the game, then yes, it would be a lame power. But with Sinister and even DD having some seer-like powers, it makes sense to spread out the seer role to several players.

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

If he was the only seer in the game, then yes, it would be a lame power. But with Sinister and even DD having some seer-like powers, it makes sense to spread out the seer role to several players.

SPIDER-MAN

We had other seers too, including myself if you want to count my night watch ability

[Qwikshot]

If he was the only seer in the game, then yes, it would be a lame power. But with Sinister and even DD having some seer-like powers, it makes sense to spread out the seer role to several players.

SPIDER-MAN

(Gambit)

"K, so then I guess do we corroborate it with Daredevil, or are we saying Daredevil's interrogations are worthless?"

[Schmidty]

(Silver Surfer)

Hulk, is there anything you can tell us about when you changed to Banner?

BANNER IS A COWARD AND A WIMP. WHEN HE TALK, HULK HUMS!!!!!

[Blade6119]

(Gambit)

"K, so then I guess do we corroborate it with Daredevil, or are we saying Daredevil's interrogations are worthless?"

Its one of the only two things clearing me, but their basically worthless

[Schmidty]

*Deadpool*

Here's a quick question, Professor X: I've been calling you out and attacking you. Why the hell haven't you scanned me? Why can't you say for a fact that I'm good? Your stories don't make any sense. I fail to see why people stick to your side.

HULK THINKS YOU ARE BAD. HULK DOES NOT KNOW WHY, BUT VOICE TELLS HULK THAT HE MUST TURN YOU INTO JELLY!!!!!!!!!


HULK ATTACKS DEADPOOL (FIST)

[DaddyTorgo]

Blade...if I was you I'd invite them and not worry about sabotage. but it's your team.

hoops, i'm going to be AFK for 30 or so here. Let the record show that I WELCOME ANYONE INTO TEAM LAST DEFENSE AND SECOND ANY INVITES MADE BY OTHER TEAM MEMBERS

[Raiders Army]

RA: I CAN'T GODDAMM SCAN YOU!! I CAN'T PICK WHO TO SCAN!!!

SINISTER CLEARED ME! CAPTAIN AMERICA CLEARED ME!! DAREDEVIL CLEARED ME!!

JEEZUS!

*Deadpool*

Forgive me, but did any of them definitively clear you? From what I can tell, Sinister didn't give you a 100% vouch, Cappy didn't give you a 100% vouch, and I'm not sure about blind guy.

His claim, which seems valid to me after america said to trust him, is that every night he gets to learn one of the 12. Random, not his choice, and only one still living it looks like. He cant scan for whos good and evil, only find out whos in the 12

Okay. Didn't realize that. Must've missed it somewhere since I'm skimming a lot.

[DaddyTorgo]

hulk is getting away with a lot of random votes by way of his "hulk-speak" guys

[Blade6119]

MOON KNIGHT INVITE SPIDERMAN AND SILVER SURFER TO TEAM LAST DEFENSE

DT, it is not my team...it wouldnt be a team if i had possession of it. We act as a group, and we make decisions as a group.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

JOIN TEAM LAST DEFENSE

SPIDER-MAN

[Raiders Army]

Watch Gram try to tear down all of the trust in the game here guys. I AM GOOD. I HAVE NOT LIED.

Gram is going to try to tear apart all the trust and have you backstab each other so his side can cruise to victory.

Remember this post of his after I die and I'm proven good. I'd now lay very good odds that Gram is evil.

blade, who do you propose we attack? how does spidey's analysis of the night-kills seem? Anything strike you. At this point I might as well use my remaining energy, so I could throw 3 at someone. I would say RA if it is up to me, but I am willing to abide by the decision of the rest of the heroes.

*Deadpool*

Can you explain these posts to me? When Gram suspects you, you say he's evil. A little while later, you say that you'd attack me. What changed there?

[Raiders Army]

hulk is getting away with a lot of random votes by way of his "hulk-speak" guys

*Deadpool*

This is true, but you've named at least three people today that you are suspicious of. This stinks of someone who is bad trying to redirect in any way possible.

[Blade6119]

*Deadpool*

This is true, but you've named at least three people today that you are suspicious of. This stinks of someone who is bad trying to redirect in any way possible.

There are 3 evil, and 2 of the three are attacking him.

If he named 4 evil it would be odd, but naming 3 evil when we have 3 evil left? Not bad...likely not right, but it doesnt stink to me.

[Raiders Army]

There are 3 evil, and 2 of the three are attacking him.

If he named 4 evil it would be odd, but naming 3 evil when we have 3 evil left? Not bad...likely not right, but it doesnt stink to me.

*Deadpool*

So you're saying I'm evil then?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

*Deadpool*

This is true, but you've named at least three people today that you are suspicious of. This stinks of someone who is bad trying to redirect in any way possible.

I can name more than three people I'm suspicious of. Namely, everyone not named Spider-Man. :)

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

*Deadpool*

So you're saying I'm evil then?

No, if you read i was your biggest defender today...im the reason your not dying in an hour. First DT's role and now this, do you just not read?

[Raiders Army]

No, if you read i was your biggest defender today...im the reason your not dying in an hour. First DT's role and now this, do you just not read?

*Deadpool*

I don't read. Seriously though, I don't understand what you're saying. It's been a long day and I don't know what this means:

There are 3 evil, and 2 of the three are attacking him.

Are you saying that two evil guys are attacking X?

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Can you explain these posts to me? When Gram suspects you, you say he's evil. A little while later, you say that you'd attack me. What changed there?

You've been in the thread for a while, baldy. Can you give me an answer?

[Blade6119]

*Deadpool*

I don't read. Seriously though, I don't understand what you're saying. It's been a long day and I don't know what this means:



Are you saying that two evil guys are attacking X?

No, 2 of the three X has accused are attacking him. You questioned X on his list of 3 suspects, and i pointed out we have 3 evil players left. Also, 2 of the three he mentioned as likely evil are attacking him, which prob. influences his feelings about them.

[Raiders Army]

No, 2 of the three X has accused are attacking him. You questioned X on his list of 3 suspects, and i pointed out we have 3 evil players left. Also, 2 of the three he mentioned as likely evil are attacking him, which prob. influences his feelings about them.

*Deadpool*

That's not really fair. He thinks we're evil because we're attacking him? He only thought Gram was evil after Gram started sniffing around him. You're putting the cart before the horse. IIRC (and I may be wrong), it went down like this:

1. I attack Professor X. I say why I'm attacking him. Remember, I've conducted the first attack almost every day.
2. Gram suspects Professor X. He's sniffing around and thinks that X is not on the level.
3. Professor X denounces us and believes we're evil (actually he thought Gram was evil and I was misguided).

He accused us after we attacked him. That's totally different from the way you're saying it.

[gi]

<Captain Britain>

Interesting on how things turned out. I am not getting a very good vibe from Deadpool. So...

Punch -> Deadpool (Use all remaining energy please)

[Raiders Army]

<Captain Britain>

Interesting on how things turned out. I am not getting a very good vibe from Deadpool. So...

Punch -> Deadpool (Use all remaining energy please)

*Deadpool*

Bah. Stop trying to hit me and hit me!

[Blade6119]

*Deadpool*

Bah. Stop trying to hit me and hit me!

If you dont have a lot of health, he might have just killed you and saved X

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

That's not really fair. He thinks we're evil because we're attacking him? He only thought Gram was evil after Gram started sniffing around him. You're putting the cart before the horse. IIRC (and I may be wrong), it went down like this:

1. I attack Professor X. I say why I'm attacking him. Remember, I've conducted the first attack almost every day.
2. Gram suspects Professor X. He's sniffing around and thinks that X is not on the level.
3. Professor X denounces us and believes we're evil (actually he thought Gram was evil and I was misguided).

He accused us after we attacked him. That's totally different from the way you're saying it.

If you dont have a lot of health, he might have just killed you and saved X

So I assume you had a chance to read my post? Am I wrong?

[Blade6119]

So I assume you had a chance to read my post? Am I wrong?

Were saying the same thing, your just mis-interpreting my post. I dont disagree at all, but i think there were better targets. I think if gramm comes up good, we couldnt have done worse on a more important day.

[Raiders Army]

Were saying the same thing, your just mis-interpreting my post. I dont disagree at all, but i think there were better targets. I think if gramm comes up good, we couldnt have done worse on a more important day.

We're not saying the same thing. What you said was:

No, 2 of the three X has accused are attacking him.
I interpret that to mean that he accused three people and two of them then attacked him. He has actually only accused one: Gram. He has said that he would've liked to kill me today, but never called me evil. He was suspicious of the Hulk.

Why would he state that he believes that Gram is evil yet attack me? Does that make any sense?

Finally, what I said was that he accused us after we attacked. That is different.

[DaddyTorgo]

Actually I have named both you and gram on prior days RA. never as my TOP suspects, but always on that list of "hmmm."

and as i've said, i tend to believe you might be good RA. just good and misguided. but gram has been on my list since...at least day 3 i'd guess

[DaddyTorgo]

and i wasn't accusing hulk. just pointing things out in case i die.

[Raiders Army]

Actually I have named both you and gram on prior days RA. never as my TOP suspects, but always on that list of "hmmm."

and as i've said, i tend to believe you might be good RA. just good and misguided. but gram has been on my list since...at least day 3 i'd guess

So why change your mind to attacking me today instead of Gram if he's higher on your list? That doesn't make any sense.

[Raiders Army]

Post #3835
Watch Gram try to tear down all of the trust in the game here guys. I AM GOOD. I HAVE NOT LIED.

Gram is going to try to tear apart all the trust and have you backstab each other so his side can cruise to victory.

Remember this post of his after I die and I'm proven good. I'd now lay very good odds that Gram is evil.
Post #3853
blade, who do you propose we attack? how does spidey's analysis of the night-kills seem? Anything strike you. At this point I might as well use my remaining energy, so I could throw 3 at someone. I would say RA if it is up to me, but I am willing to abide by the decision of the rest of the heroes.

Posting for the second time. What happened here?

[Blade6119]

We're not saying the same thing. What you said was:


I interpret that to mean that he accused three people and two of them then attacked him.
Like i just freaking said, your just mis-interpreting my post and were saying the same thing. RA, ive played with you quite a bit in the past and your a smart guy. Why are you acting dense today?

He didnt attack you, hes attacking gram. Only hulk and britain are attacking you...your facts are all wrong, your assumptions are all wrong, and quite frankly its getting tiring defending your actions to others when i can no longer reason them.

[Blade6119]

So why change your mind to attacking me today instead of Gram if he's higher on your list? That doesn't make any sense.

HE IS FREAKING ATTACKING GRAMM, AND ITS BECAUSE I TOLD HIM NOT TO ATTACK YOU!!

Sweet jesus, i want to kill you myself now...you need to read a LOT better

[Schmidty]

HE IS FREAKING ATTACKING GRAMM, AND ITS BECAUSE I TOLD HIM NOT TO ATTACK YOU!!

Sweet jesus, i want to kill you myself now...you need to read a LOT better

HULK WOULD BE HAPPY TO CRUSH RUDE GUY. JUST ASK.

[Raiders Army]

Like i just freaking said, your just mis-interpreting my post and were saying the same thing. RA, ive played with you quite a bit in the past and your a smart guy. Why are you acting dense today?

He didnt attack you, hes attacking gram. Only hulk and britain are attacking you...your facts are all wrong, your assumptions are all wrong, and quite frankly its getting tiring defending your actions to others when i can no longer reason them.

#1: You're wrong: I'm not a smart guy. ;)

...however, it has been a long couple of days. I've been trying to pry money free from Ft. Sill but it's freakin impossible and frustrating. All I need is $213k.

[Schmidty]

HULK JUST TRYING TO BE VOICE OF REASON AND RESPECT!!!!!

HULK SMASH ILL-MANNERED GUYS!!!!!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

RA...my vote for you today would have been purely a revenge vote. blade reasoned with me.

sorry RL is sucking for you

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

I heart Hulk.

[Raiders Army]

HE IS FREAKING ATTACKING GRAMM, AND ITS BECAUSE I TOLD HIM NOT TO ATTACK YOU!!

Sweet jesus, i want to kill you myself now...you need to read a LOT better

Are you serious? Please read it again. I don't know why you're defending him when he isn't defending himself.

He says "I'd now lay very good odds that Gram is evil." Yet a few posts later he says "At this point I might as well use my remaining energy, so I could throw 3 at someone. I would say RA if it is up to me".

I'm not saying he's attacking me. I'm asking what changed his mind from Gram to me.

[hoopsguy]

(Silver Surfer)

I heart Hulk.

Ditto :)

[Raiders Army]

RA...my vote for you today would have been purely a revenge vote. blade reasoned with me.

sorry RL is sucking for you

NP. Understand your reasoning now.

[Blade6119]

Are you serious? Please read it again. I don't know why you're defending him when he isn't defending himself.

He says "I'd now lay very good odds that Gram is evil." Yet a few posts later he says "At this point I might as well use my remaining energy, so I could throw 3 at someone. I would say RA if it is up to me".

I'm not saying he's attacking me. I'm asking what changed his mind from Gram to me.
Maybe it was you attacking him????????????????????

[Raiders Army]

Also, meant to add that although I understand your reasoning, I don't agree with it. Even if I were to die today, I wouldn't do a revenge attack. I would hope that my attack would decrease the health of someone that was higher on my suspect list (Gram) the next day instead of wasting an attack.

[Raiders Army]

Maybe it was you attacking him????????????????????

Nope. I attacked him waaaaaaaay before he made those two statements.

[Blade6119]

Sorry if i was rude there RA, you just frustrated me a bit. My apologies if i stepped over the line

[path12]

If you dont have a lot of health, he might have just killed you and saved X

(Silver Surfer)

I doubt that. Maybe you misread my attack.

[Blade6119]

(Silver Surfer)

ATTACK PROFESSOR X (POWER COSMIC)

Goodbye, Professor.

Path, you cant fucking edit posts. This is blatant cheating, i clearly remember that was an attack on venom.

MOON KNIGHT UNINVITE PATH12 TO LAST DEFENSE

HOOPS, CAN WE GET A REVERSAL OF THAT AND NOTE HE VOTED VENOM

[Qwikshot]

hoops

please list attacks and please list groups?

[Raiders Army]

Sorry if i was rude there RA, you just frustrated me a bit. My apologies if i stepped over the line

I really don't care. We've exchanged far worse. :)


...you do see where I'm coming from, although you don't agree with it, right?

[Blade6119]

I really don't care. We've exchanged far worse. :)


...you do see where I'm coming from, although you don't agree with it, right?

I agree with it even, but i trust both of you quite a bit more then others like gramm. So id prefer if you two didnt lead to each others deaths(which seems likely right now)

[Qwikshot]

Attack Mathemaniac - special power

[path12]

Path, you cant fucking edit posts. This is blatant cheating, i clearly remember that was an attack on venom.

MOON KNIGHT UNINVITE PATH12 TO LAST DEFENSE

HOOPS, CAN WE GET A REVERSAL OF THAT AND NOTE HE VOTED VENOM

(Silver Surfer)

Foolish mortal. You have no idea of what I can do. I am the envoy of the DESTROYER OF WORLDS. Do you think that my powers are as limited as yours?

[Qwikshot]

Attack Mathemaniac - special power

]Attack Mathemaniac - special power[/QUOTE]

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah Path. WTF

that post was edited at 9:05 by you!

(Silver Surfer)

ATTACK PROFESSOR X (POWER COSMIC)

Goodbye, Professor.
__________________
We have always been at war with Oceania.
Last edited by path12 : Today at 09:05 PM.

[Blade6119]

Attack Mathemaniac - special power

Why do this...you could have attacked path and maybe killed him since we all know hes evil now...just a waste

[Qwikshot]

Why do this...you could have attacked path and maybe killed him since we all know hes evil now...just a waste

Dude it happened after the edit...not much I could do about it.

[Qwikshot]

The initial vote was for venom...I was going with daredevil's vote on mathmaniac at the start of everything since I was trusting he knew something...

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Oh, and Moon -- thanks for the invite, but I surf alone.

[DaddyTorgo]

i vote that qwikshot be allowed to redirect his attack due to the blatant cheating.