Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens - Game over!

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Here are a series of quotes that I found interesting:

Through a varity of reasons, I feel Captain America is on the side of good.

Britain feels as if Cappy America is good. I felt as if Professor X, the guy who can read minds jumped on this.

(Professor X)

I believe Doom and Wolverine to both be on the side of good. I am not necessarily inclined to continue down the path of Cannonball being evil Eric. I also understand the suspiscions of those who believe that Hulk would make a powerful minion for Apocalypse, but I am not willing to condemm him on such hearsay. I would rather look towards those who joined the attack on Tony in the middle (preferably those who acted before the rest of their team or acted without their team). Barring that, not to bring LaResistance out in arms against me, but I would say that the actions of Captain Marvel have certainly at least raised my eyebrow. She seems to be quite the rabble-rouser and I would like her to explain her reasonings more, or cease and desist.

Here Professor X believes that Doom is good. While it's hardly a ringing endorsement, It's no less than what he has said about others that he believes that are good. Remember, he can read minds.

(Doom)
Muddy the waters? Doom agree that Captain Marvel should be considered to be one of the Horsemen, but you have done more than your share of blind accusations.
To all here ... while I have no concrete evidence either, ask yourself this: if you were Apocalypse, would you not go after someone who might have the ability to read your mind and discern your true identity?

Who better to turn into a Horseman than a psychic ... nay, the MOST POWERFUL psychic?

Doom is suspicious of two people: Marvel (known baddie) and Professor X. Interesting...

(Professor X)

My accusations have been supported by statements, or in the case of them not being, I have said "I have nothing to go on here." While that may be a blind accusation Doom, it is one that is up-front about its blindness.

I cannot explain why Apocalypse did not choose me to be one of the Horsemen. Perhaps because it made too much sense and he assumed that I would be an early target anyways by virtue of my power?

I do thank you for your compliments with regards to my ability though Doom. I trust that the side of good has at least one traditional seer who could look at me and verify that I am not a Horseman or Apocalypse, as my psychic powers have apparently been constrained onboard this ship and can only pick up other information.

This was Professor X's response. Here he is pretty much telling a seer to vouch for him. No one has done so, right? Is it because the seer would be a night target or because no one has viewed him?

I say again, why is Professor X still alive when we believe he has seer powers?

None of this adds up which is why I attacked him today.

[Raiders Army]

I very much enjoyed this game, and I appreciate you guys putting up with my annoying Doom character. Good job, and good luck with the rest of the game. :)

I found Doom very entertaining and well-acted!

[hoopsguy]

I found Doom very entertaining and well-acted!

Ditto. I had a blast reading his in-character posts all game.

[Qwikshot]

OOC:

Doom was well played...

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I think Venom using a special attack on Doom likely moves him into my trusting point, why waste energy to kill off a partner in crime, it would strike me as wasteful and overkill for a horseman to use such skills, but more likely for a hero to make sure the enemy is vanquished, no?"

I hate to admit this, but I agree. Venom has been one of my top suspects, but with his actions yesterday it looks like he is on our side. I was also wrong in thinking that he had similar abilities as me. He has launched two special attacks and that is something I lack.

Speaking of special actions, I also will not be attacking today. I need to preserve my energy so I can go out and play tonight.

SPIDER-MAN

[Jonathan Ezarik]

This was Professor X's response. Here he is pretty much telling a seer to vouch for him. No one has done so, right? Is it because the seer would be a night target or because no one has viewed him?

Haven't we agreed that Sinister was a seer? He vouched for X. We went through this yesterday with Juggernaut. Do we really want to go through it again?

SPIDER-MAN

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

While I don't consider a "normal" attack against a horseman to necessarily indicate that someone is not one of the three villains remaining, I do think that the extra expenditure of a special attack (with concurrent extra damage) should make Venom relatively trusted.

I have compiled a list of people who have not attacked either Doom or Marvel:
Captain America, Captain Britain, Daredevil, Gambit, Hulk, Mathemanic, Professor X, Silver Surfer, Spiderman, Storm

Out of that list, the Professor and myself are the only ones who have also not attacked one of the twelve.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, that should be, a confirmed member of the twelve, as our attack against Cannonball may put us back into the first category, since Cannonball's status is not known.

[Raiders Army]

Haven't we agreed that Sinister was a seer? He vouched for X. We went through this yesterday with Juggernaut. Do we really want to go through it again?

SPIDER-MAN

*Deadpool*

Sorry, must've missed that.

[Poli]

OOC:

Doom was well played...
You should have seen his PMs.

"Doom finds you..." stuff like that all throughout.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
Incidentally, just in case Daredevil wishes to confirm whether I'm good or bad, I am neither Apocalypse nor a horseman.

[Poli]

I was just about to comment on that, Mathman.

DD

[Bonegavel]

*Deadpool*

Going back through the thread, caught this one. So who attacked Doom night 1?

(Wolverine)

Turns out that nobody did. He lied.

I posted that before I became suspicious about the doombot story.

[Bonegavel]

I very much enjoyed this game, and I appreciate you guys putting up with my annoying Doom character. Good job, and good luck with the rest of the game. :)

(ooc) I enjoyed the hell out of your Doom. Shame I had to take him down. I didn't realize that WW could be this fun. Everyone here is putting out oscar-nomination role-playing efforts.(/ooc)

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

Magneto and Cannonball put what could have been the finishing touches on Doom. That doesn't seem to me the actions of a Horseman.

Trying to figure out how they could have done this and not thought they'd lynch him.

Magneto was high on my distrust list but this puts him back in the limbo list.

[DaddyTorgo]

I didn't get a name last night...because SA couldn't come visit I needed to use my dwindling energy to protect myself with my illusion. hopefully he will come hang out tonight and I can cast about with my mind.

while I am here for the next 21 minutes, anything going on? I think venom moves up the list as does blade at this point.

oh and hoops

[INVITE WOLVERINE INTO ATLANTIC ALLIANCE]

moon knight...do you want in?

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

ACCEPT INVITE TO ATLANTIC ALLIANCE


I probably won't last the night, but we can give it a shot.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

Chuck (prof x), what are your qualifications again? It's been many pages and I've forgotten why you are on my trust list.

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

Am I in the Atlantic Alliance? Or was that fully accepted?

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
Professor X got a vouch from Sinister before the latter was killed, although we never were able to settle on a good reason for Sinister going to visit after making his public statement.

I don't believe anyone he identified as a member of the 12 has been killed yet; subsequent to his making such identifications, we've daykilled Hawkeye and apoc's bunch nightkilled Warpath.

[hoopsguy]

Need one more person each for Gambit and Wolverine to join the Atlantic Alliance - each has one sponsor and needs two at this point.

[DaddyTorgo]

yes I believe you were fully accepted in gambit. and ardent is too now. if both of you guys could signal that wolvie is welcome then he will be in as well

logan, my qualifications: cleared by sinister (the other half of our seers), cleared now by captain america, cleared by myself as a member of the 12, everything I have said has been the truth. I honestly don't know why evil hasn't come for me. frankly I was expecting it last night for sure so I put the illusion up. I guess they feel they have better targets to kill at night than me, espcially as people get more suspicious the longer I am alive. or maybe doomie was going to come for me last night, I'm not sure. regardless...I top the trust lists of pretty much everyone, I think it would be almost impossible for me tobe bad.

hey dd...the person I'd like to see you determine truth on the good/badness of is Hulk. with juggs dead hulk is very very imposing and we need to know if he is with or against us.

as far as interrogating...I'm not sure...that's up to you. maybe magneto?

oh and how do we in the alliance feel about deadpool? does anyone else think that he is trusted enuf by virtue of attacks on doom that they want to invite him in? if so I support it...

[DaddyTorgo]

going back to work now. will leave this up so I can check on stuff after I clock out. will be home at like 6:45 EST.

[Bonegavel]

(Mathemanic)
Professor X got a vouch from Sinister before the latter was killed, although we never were able to settle on a good reason for Sinister going to visit after making his public statement.

I don't believe anyone he identified as a member of the 12 has been killed yet; subsequent to his making such identifications, we've daykilled Hawkeye and apoc's bunch nightkilled Warpath.

(Wolverine)

That's right. Sinister vouched and what reason on Earth would a member of the 12 have to do that unless it was absolutely true. I'm looking forward to hearing his explanation of his visit to Prof X after the game.

[SackAttack]

<Captain Britain>

Captain America, what are your thoughts on our dear Prof X?

I still believe he's good, especially in light of certain of Daredevil's actions.

Last night was troublesome for me. Two nights ago, Daredevil told me Doom lied, and through a whole process of elimination, we determined that Juggernaut was somebody we were also suspicious of, because of some of the things Doom was saying to Daredevil.

We both got played on that one, but my decision to go after Juggernaut instead of Doom yesterday was primarily based on two things. 1) the insane damage he took without getting taken down - somebody mentioned sabotage as a reason for why 29 damage didn't kill him, and it seemed to fit with what DD was saying - and 2) felt like he might be an easier takedown right after the other attack than Doom, who had had a couple of days to recover, if memory serves me properly.

As far as prospective members of the Atlantic Alliance go, I would welcome all three - Daredevil, Wolverine and Gambit - without reservation.

Hoops, can you confirm whether I was a sponsor for any of those three at any point, or is my affirmation sufficient to make them full-fledged team members?

[SackAttack]

oh and how do we in the alliance feel about deadpool? does anyone else think that he is trusted enuf by virtue of attacks on doom that they want to invite him in? if so I support it...

I don't know how I feel about Deadpool right now. In the past, I haven't trusted him. Some of those actions have since been vindicated.

In light of what Daredevil was telling me two nights ago, I felt as though I owed him an apology.

Seeing him attack you today yo-yo'ed him right back to the purgatory list.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm ambivalent. I don't have any real strong objection at this moment, but I wouldn't be a ringing endorsement, either.

[path12]

(Gambit)

"Would the followers of apoc attack one of their own? Or would have it been easier to pile onto Juggernaut, knowing that he was not evil? If you want to trust Daredevil like I do, then these are the remainders who would be under suspicion, not to say that all of Daredevil's trusted are safe, but I would like to use these are the reference point, no? I think Venom using a special attack on Doom likely moves him into my trusting point, why waste energy to kill off a partner in crime, it would strike me as wasteful and overkill for a horseman to use such skills, but more likely for a hero to make sure the enemy is vanquished, no?"

(Silver Surfer)

I see it somewhat differently. The best way to get into a circle of trust without being scanned is to attack someone who you know is bad. A one-point attack was not going to do much to Doom, was it?

[Bonegavel]

I don't know how I feel about Deadpool right now. In the past, I haven't trusted him. Some of those actions have since been vindicated.

In light of what Daredevil was telling me two nights ago, I felt as though I owed him an apology.

Seeing him attack you today yo-yo'ed him right back to the purgatory list.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm ambivalent. I don't have any real strong objection at this moment, but I wouldn't be a ringing endorsement, either.

(Wolverine)

Deadpool is so random and so out-for-himself it is hard to say.

(ooc)RA is playing him very well(/ooc)

I wouldn't put it past DP to attack and even kill one of his own if it helped his cause of not being eliminated, which in the end is all that matters. As long as one of them survives and the 12 are gone, it doesn't matter if they kill each other.

[Thomkal]

(OOC) Loved the way you played Doom, WVUfan, so good job. (/ooc)

(Cannonball)
"Ah would agree with the Professor about Hulk being a good target for you Daredevil. As our numbers get smaller, the harder it would be for us to take him out if we need to."

"As for who to attack tonight, Ah am in favor of attacking anyone who attacked Juggernaut who has not been cleared. Especially those who attacked him after Mr. Magneto and Ah did. Ah just can't believe they would leave him hang out to dry like that."

(OOC) Can someone with more time than me go back and find the post(s) from Sinster about the Professor being cleared so we can have a refresher on it to make sure that's what he was doing? (/ooc)

[hoopsguy]

As far as prospective members of the Atlantic Alliance go, I would welcome all three - Daredevil, Wolverine and Gambit - without reservation.

Hoops, can you confirm whether I was a sponsor for any of those three at any point, or is my affirmation sufficient to make them full-fledged team members?

OK, checking back on notes:
1. Gambit is in
2. Wolverine is now in
3. Daredevil still needs one of ProfX, Gambit, or Britain to second his entry into the group

[path12]

(Wolverine)

Magneto and Cannonball put what could have been the finishing touches on Doom. That doesn't seem to me the actions of a Horseman.

Trying to figure out how they could have done this and not thought they'd lynch him.

Magneto was high on my distrust list but this puts him back in the limbo list.

(Silver Surfer)

If Doom had an attack immunity, they very well could have known that an attack of that particular type wouldn't work. Remember, even with the special attacks there was only 9 points of damage to him......not a lot.

I'm afraid that we might be jumping to clear a few people prematurely. I believe what Daredevil is telling us, but that's through yesterday. There could still be two very important scenarios in play:

1) Throwing a fellow horseman under the bus.
2) Possibility of conversion. We have no evidence if it's possible one way or the other.

What pings my radar at the moment are those who seem to be pushing the most to enter the 'circle of trust'. This is exactly where the horsemen and Apoc most want to be.

[Thomkal]

(Silver Surfer)

If Doom had an attack immunity, they very well could have known that an attack of that particular type wouldn't work. Remember, even with the special attacks there was only 9 points of damage to him......not a lot.

I'm afraid that we might be jumping to clear a few people prematurely. I believe what Daredevil is telling us, but that's through yesterday. There could still be two very important scenarios in play:

1) Throwing a fellow horseman under the bus.
2) Possibility of conversion. We have no evidence if it's possible one way or the other.

What pings my radar at the moment are those who seem to be pushing the most to enter the 'circle of trust'. This is exactly where the horsemen and Apoc most want to be.

(Cannonball)

"if you go back and read the description of the attack on Mr. Doom, Mr. Surfer, you will see that Mr. Magneto and Ah were the ones who broke down Doom's force field. So Ah'd say our attacks worked quite nicely."

[Poli]

Need one more person each for Gambit and Wolverine to join the Atlantic Alliance - each has one sponsor and needs two at this point.
I haven't been accepted yet, have I?

DD

[path12]

(Cannonball)

"if you go back and read the description of the attack on Mr. Doom, Mr. Surfer, you will see that Mr. Magneto and Ah were the ones who broke down Doom's force field. So Ah'd say our attacks worked quite nicely."

(Silver Surfer)

I'm sorry, Cannonball, could you point out to me exactly where I made any comment about you or Magneto -- or anyone for that matter (with the exception of saying that I believe what Daredevil is telling us for last night.

The fact is that Doom only took 9 points of potential damage from all of those attacks. Do you deny that? Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when I didn't make any comments indicating suspicion of you?

[Blade6119]

moon knight...do you want in?

No, i really dont...i no longer trust the atlantic alliance to be free of evil

[Blade6119]

(Cannonball)

"if you go back and read the description of the attack on Mr. Doom, Mr. Surfer, you will see that Mr. Magneto and Ah were the ones who broke down Doom's force field. So Ah'd say our attacks worked quite nicely."

To be fair again, all breaking down his forcefield did was allow others to attack him. You and barkeep did basically 0 damage to him...just noting

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
At which point, Cannonball, he still had activated a Doombot that might have offered further protection.

IFF (and this is a big if) Apocalypse or his Horsemen attacked Doom yesterday, I think the most likely candidates are Magneto and Cannonball, who attacked after he had deployed defensive measures.

I'm not sure how closely that merits attention, because with three more attacks coming afterwards, those attacks might have stripped Doom's defenses and left him vulnerable. But we should also keep in mind that Doom himself would have had some idea of how much punishment he could stand and could have communicated that information to his allies in deciding how they should proceed.

[Poli]

? Who's in it now?

I've also noticed how some have avoided the statement, "I am good."

DD

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

And just for the record, my trust list is very small: Daredevil (posting the PM's for interrogation and the analysis re Doom); Wolverine (killed Doom last night). Mandarin is elevated on the list for killing Marvel, but that was two nights ago, and that could have made him a prime conversion target last night.

After all, what if the fact that nobody else was killed last night means there was a conversion? We seem to be assuming it is because Doom was going to make a kill. How would we know this?

[Blade6119]

(Silver Surfer)

And just for the record, my trust list is very small: Daredevil (posting the PM's for interrogation and the analysis re Doom); Wolverine (killed Doom last night). Mandarin is elevated on the list for killing Marvel, but that was two nights ago, and that could have made him a prime conversion target last night.

After all, what if the fact that nobody else was killed last night means there was a conversion? We seem to be assuming it is because Doom was going to make a kill. How would we know this?

My current thought is doom was the night kill

[path12]

? Who's in it now?

I've also noticed how some have avoided the statement, "I am good."

DD

(Silver Surfer)

Pardon? Did I miss something? My loyalties are to Galactus, destroyer of worlds, not Apocalypse.

[path12]

My current thought is doom was the night kill

(Silver Surfer)

Could be. However, that is just your thought. Speculation does not equal knowing.

[Poli]

No, i really dont...i no longer trust the atlantic alliance to be free of evil
Hmm, looking it over, I think we're at odds. I trust all that are in or prospective in.

[gi]

No, i really dont...i no longer trust the atlantic alliance to be free of evil

<Captain Britain>

Who do you believe is suspected of being evil in the Atlantic Alliance?

[path12]

My current thought is doom was the night kill

(Silver Surfer)

Actually, wait a minute. Didn't Wolverine claim that kill?

[Blade6119]

(Silver Surfer)

Actually, wait a minute. Didn't Wolverine claim that kill?

Yes

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

The hard part about all this is that at this point, any of us could still be evil. Yes, even myself.

I (or anyone else for that matter) could have attacked our own to make it look good.

Now, I happen to know that I am not one of the 5, but you all don't know that. So, I hate to say it but we are really back at square 1.

Since I don't have seer powers, I can't confirm for anyone else apart from their actions and, really, actions don't always mean what they seem. The others that have seer powers can confirm (would be great to have those right about now) the alignment of another.

Anyone have a post number for Sinister's endorsement of Prof X?

This still doesn't really matter because Prof X could have a passive power that would make other seer's abilities report wrong information.

[Blade6119]

Hmm, looking it over, I think we're at odds. I trust all that are in or prospective in.

I trust america and britain, i dont trust wolverine and X right now. I dont want to damn them, just saying their not on my cleared list

[Poli]

I trust america and britain, i dont trust wolverine and X right now. I dont want to damn them, just saying their not on my cleared list
I can clear X tonight.

[path12]

Hmm, I see this evening has already proved eventful, without any true action occuring. Here are my thoughts:

1. Xavier is the only person I trust in this game. As I stated, I know more than anyone about mutants and their genes, and if Charles was Apocalypse, I would have noticed a difference in the samples.

Post #1688.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Same as for Captain Marvel, it'd be an unusual choice for the horsemen to cannibalize their own. They lose one of their own precious night attacks, as well as the opportunity cost that we would have to expend in killing Doom. The gain is a measure of trust, and the question is, is that worth the cost to them?

[Blade6119]

Post #1688.

Yes, and ardent said a few times he trusted WVUfan. Look how that turned out. If Talgain trusted DT, why go to him on night two with a needle(which would draw blood, and do what he says he already did night one..though he never said he actually did it night one). I dont understand the night two visit with the needle if he trusted DT like he said he did

[Blade6119]

(Mathemanic)

Same as for Captain Marvel, it'd be an unusual choice for the horsemen to cannibalize their own. They lose one of their own precious night attacks, as well as the opportunity cost that we would have to expend in killing Doom. The gain is a measure of trust, and the question is, is that worth the cost to them?

Thats what im deciding. Wolverine is now in the atlantic alliance, and the i highly doubt this new super group will attack their own.

I really dont have any evidence, just explaining why i dont think i want to be apart of the alliance for the time being. People have proven over and over this game they dont like attacking team members, so i wanted the alliance to be a group i fully trusted. It no longer is, and as such i dont think i can join for the time being

[gi]

I can clear X tonight.

<Captain Britain>
That would go a long way to gathering more support.

[gi]

Thats what im deciding. Wolverine is now in the atlantic alliance, and the i highly doubt this new super group will attack their own.

I really dont have any evidence, just explaining why i dont think i want to be apart of the alliance for the time being. People have proven over and over this game they dont like attacking team members, so i wanted the alliance to be a group i fully trusted. It no longer is, and as such i dont think i can join for the time being

<Captain Britain>

Fair enough, hopefully we'll see you in the alliance once these heroes are cleared.

[Bonegavel]

My current thought is doom was the night kill

(Wolverine)

Interesting theory and I do admit to be alarmed that evil didn't make a kill last night. However, it is most likely that they may have wanted it this way to cast doubt on any night kills that did occur (I as much alluded to my actions prior to the night cycle).

Evil is probably scrambling around trying to figure out what each of them has said about whom and trying to figure out the best of us to put down without raising suspicion regarding their own past comments. Then let last night go by and let a good guy get a kill and then be put into the spotlight (though I didn't see it this way at first as I was figuring this gave me immunity from doubt).

It is a little disturbing for you to accuse this, however, since you appear to be a watcher. Could this be the first signs of an attack on me by evil?

Since I'm not sure if I'm one of the 12 or not (I could just be one of the Oddball 8), I would gladly slice off my head with my claws if I thought it would help the team. The mods didn't seem too keen on that the last time Wolvie was in a Rage, but maybe my death my be of some help to the good side?

[path12]

(Mathemanic)

Same as for Captain Marvel, it'd be an unusual choice for the horsemen to cannibalize their own. They lose one of their own precious night attacks, as well as the opportunity cost that we would have to expend in killing Doom. The gain is a measure of trust, and the question is, is that worth the cost to them?

(Silver Surfer)

Let's put it this way -- I highly doubt that both the kills on Doom and Marvel are by the bad guys, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find that one of them were.

[Blade6119]

Sack, you have been visiting with X(he hinted as much). Can you clear him? I trust you for the most part through ardent, so if you can give me a yes, i can 100% clear him ill drop it.

My point was more about wolverine, but ill take either one being cleared

[Schmidty]

HULK JUST WAKE UP AND NEEDS TO FIND FOOD. HULK WON'T HAVE TIME TO SEE WHO TO SMASH FOR A WHILE!!!

[path12]

Yes, and ardent said a few times he trusted WVUfan. Look how that turned out. If Talgain trusted DT, why go to him on night two with a needle(which would draw blood, and do what he says he already did night one..though he never said he actually did it night one). I dont understand the night two visit with the needle if he trusted DT like he said he did

(Silver Surfer)

The request was to find the post number. I never said I agree with it. I do think that Professor X started good, but I am apparently in the minority that think there is a conversion at play here. I do not feel that a clear on day 1 means anything now.

[Blade6119]

DT, WOLVERINE

Can i get both of you to make this comment in thread:

I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[path12]

<Captain Britain>

Fair enough, hopefully we'll see you in the alliance once these heroes are cleared.

(Silver Surfer)

Clear how? I infer from what Daredevil says that he can clear one statement. So he can clear one of you. For now. Anyone earlier than that is fair game if there has been a conversion. As a matter of fact, the more trusted someone is seen the more likely it is that would be the target to convert, no?

[Blade6119]

Id love to see barkeep and the other uncleareds make that post too, as they should have nothing to be afriad of admitting such a thing

[Schmidty]

BEFORE HULK GO, HULK WANTS TO ASK FRIENDS TO TEST HULK, BECAUSE IS NOT LYING. HULK DOES NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO LIE!!!

TEST HULK. YOU WILL ALL SEE THAT HULK IS NOT BAD.

[path12]

Id love to see barkeep and the other uncleareds make that post too, as they should have nothing to be afriad of admitting such a thing

(Silver Surfer)

And you should do so also.

I started off on the side of good, I am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

The Surfer has nothing to hide.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

If this helps with one of your powers, have at it.

I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[Blade6119]

I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)
I've already stated that I am neither Apocalypse nor a horseman, and I stand by that. Since you are asking, I do not have special victory conditions, nor any other sympathies for Apocalypse or the horsemen.

[Blade6119]

(Wolverine)

If this helps with one of your powers, have at it.

I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

Not with mine, but with ardents it does. He asked me to do this while hes at basketball, so i am. He is still technically interrogating me, until the deadline today when he starts with someone else.

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"Daredevil I welcome you to the Alliance as the person to second your nomination. I am on the side of good, I just thought there was many too many offering oaths to good, to be quite redundant...I am avowed against Apoc and his remaining horsemen."

Invite Daredevil to Atlantic Alliance

[hoopsguy]

And Daredevil is in the Atlantic Alliance, which now numbers six. Team report in a sec.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

It is still an interesting question to pose regarding the 2 horsemen we have already dispatched: would evil kill their own to help protect themselves?

Again, I know without question that my kill doesn't fit that category since I'm not evil.

Mandarin, now, falls into the "safe" kill of a fellow horseman to throw us off. I could believe this and I'll bet that my off'ing of Doom threw them for a slight loop and that they weren't expecting him to go so soon after Cpt Marvel was off'ed by one of their own.

This follows their pattern. Evil tried to pretend that night 1 kill was directed at one of their own to shift doubt. Now, I say it may be that Mandarin killed one of their own (for real this time) to try shifting doubt in a more substantial way since I didn't buy the Doom lie.

Maybe evil figures they needed to produce a body in order for one of their own to succeed? It wasn't my attack on Doom since I'm good and I think that Moon Knight can now confirm my alignment.

[DaddyTorgo]

my last lil break at work. home in an hour. as requested dd

I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

I have not been converted. I have not lied about my abilities except for the "tripwire" that is actually automatic if I die when I was trying to lay a trap with my illusion-ability.

hope that helps. if you can only clear one ofus though, clear wolvie or hulk and kill me. you will need their strength and the list of untrusted is fairly small anyways and you will still find out all I know.

hope that doesn't come off sounding bad. it simply seems the most logical

[gi]

(Silver Surfer)

Clear how? I infer from what Daredevil says that he can clear one statement. So he can clear one of you. For now. Anyone earlier than that is fair game if there has been a conversion. As a matter of fact, the more trusted someone is seen the more likely it is that would be the target to convert, no?

<Captain Britain>

I was only stating that through the course of events that the future will bring, I hope that they will clear the members of the Alliance that you do not trust. I had no master plan to achomplish this.

[hoopsguy]

Mutant First: Magneto, Cannonball, Mandarin

FORCE: Storm, Hulk, Venom

Atlantic Alliance: CapAm, Britain, ProfX, Gambit, Wolverine, Daredevil

Solo: Deadpool, Surfer, Moon, Math, Spiderman

[SackAttack]

Thats what im deciding. Wolverine is now in the atlantic alliance, and the i highly doubt this new super group will attack their own.

I really dont have any evidence, just explaining why i dont think i want to be apart of the alliance for the time being. People have proven over and over this game they dont like attacking team members, so i wanted the alliance to be a group i fully trusted. It no longer is, and as such i dont think i can join for the time being

We're sorry not to have you, Moon Knight.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

But we are kind of screwed if DD turns out to be evil.

If DD is evil, he doesn't have to waste his power to see if one of us is good. He could easily select an evil candidate of the one's that made the pledge and vouche for them.

Not having a seer ability has made me hyper-aware that I'm all alone in this game and am going to have to use my own wits to figure it all out.

Everyone vouching for one another means nothing to me since I can't verify it. Mandarin killing Cpt Marvel could be a ploy.

I'm staying on the team for now, but I'm not really sure now what I've gained by joining.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Believe me, Wolverine, you're not alone in still being a little wary of DD.

[Blade6119]

and I think that Moon Knight can now confirm my alignment.

?? I cant confirm it at all, am i missing something? I can confirm a few things this game...talgain was the target night one, alan blocked that attack. Talgain went out night one, no idea where. Doom went out night 2, no idea where again. Night 3 LSG did not go out, but ntn did visit her and she died. Night 4 path did not go out.

I can also confirm ardent does have a special PM ability daily, and he has talked with WVU, Captain America, and myself. He also knew yesterday, while defending WVU, that he was evil. He is not just saying that now that WVU came up bad.

I dont think i know a single thing about you bonegavel, should i?

[Blade6119]

We're sorry not to have you, Moon Knight.

Im sorry as well, i was looking forward to cooperating with you and britain. But your group has decided to expand in ways im not totally in agreement with, and i must pause. Know, it is not you that gives me pause(though i would like you to answer my question about X)

[SackAttack]

Sack, you have been visiting with X(he hinted as much). Can you clear him? I trust you for the most part through ardent, so if you can give me a yes, i can 100% clear him ill drop it.

My point was more about wolverine, but ill take either one being cleared

Moon, I believe the Professor to be good for a variety of reasons. My visit to his quarters was with the intent of helping others to reach that conclusion more comfortably. I would trust the Professor with or without those results.

That said, I got a benign sense from the Professor when I visited him, but I didn't immediately recognize the illusion he had cast to protect himself.

Had Apocalypse not struck, I believe I would probably have gotten a 100%.

I trust him. There are a couple others I trust more because I HAVE gotten 100% from them - no room for equivocation there- but between what Daredevil has said, my read on the Professor's night actions, and the Professor himself, I'm comfortable with him.

[SackAttack]

Im sorry as well, i was looking forward to cooperating with you and britain. But your group has decided to expand in ways im not totally in agreement with, and i must pause. Know, it is not you that gives me pause(though i would like you to answer my question about X)

Read bottom to top. Saw your decision before I saw your question.

I understand your cause for concern. The only thing I can offer is that I can do the same with them as I did with the Professor. If there is somebody about whom you are particularly concerned, I have the energy to visit said individual tonight.

[Blade6119]

Read bottom to top. Saw your decision before I saw your question.

I understand your cause for concern. The only thing I can offer is that I can do the same with them as I did with the Professor. If there is somebody about whom you are particularly concerned, I have the energy to visit said individual tonight.

Not more concerned about over the uncleareds. The only reason im focusing on wolverine is that he is in the "trusted" group when i dont trust him. The scans likely would be more useful on those not cleared yet. If you want to check an ally, my vote would be wolverine.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Can anybody run down for me the points in favor of Captain Britain? If I remember right, he shielded Iron Man on day 1, is there any vouching going on beyond that?

[SackAttack]

Not more concerned about over the uncleareds. The only reason im focusing on wolverine is that he is in the "trusted" group when i dont trust him. The scans likely would be more useful on those not cleared yet. If you want to check an ally, my vote would be wolverine.

I'll check him out, Moon.

[SackAttack]

(Mathemanic)

Can anybody run down for me the points in favor of Captain Britain? If I remember right, he shielded Iron Man on day 1, is there any vouching going on beyond that?

I visited him on Night 1. He is without reproach in his allegiance to the cause of good.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Not quite dola, I already think the shield of Iron Man is pretty significant, I just don't remember if there was anything firm for anyone else.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, thanks, Captain.

[path12]

(Mathemanic)

Can anybody run down for me the points in favor of Captain Britain? If I remember right, he shielded Iron Man on day 1, is there any vouching going on beyond that?

(Silver Surfer)

I believe Cap America also vouched for him sometime on day 1 or early day 2, but nothing since then and I don't recall the reason why.

[SackAttack]

(Silver Surfer)

I believe Cap America also vouched for him sometime on day 1 or early day 2, but nothing since then and I don't recall the reason why.

Day 2, sir.

[Thomkal]

(Silver Surfer)

I'm sorry, Cannonball, could you point out to me exactly where I made any comment about you or Magneto -- or anyone for that matter (with the exception of saying that I believe what Daredevil is telling us for last night.

The fact is that Doom only took 9 points of potential damage from all of those attacks. Do you deny that? Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when I didn't make any comments indicating suspicion of you?

(Cannonball)

:::scratches head:::

"I'm sorry Mr. Surfer, but the quote from you I commented about talks about Mr. Magneto and mah attack on Doom does it not? So it looks like you are talking about us to me. But Ah'm just the son of a coal miner. Math has never been my good subject, so if you and the other big brains say 9 points of damage was done to Mr. Doom, Ah'm fine with that. Ah felt from your post that you were questioning whether or not Mr. Magneto did any of that damage or not. If Ah was confused about that, Ah duly apologize."

[Barkeep49]

I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(ooc)

If I understand our friendly moderator correctly, the damage totals are before any defensive effects. I also think (but am not sure) that they are before team sabotage as well.

In fact, Doom got nine points of damage plus however much damage Mandarin dealt, but the latter did not alter the outcome of the day.

[Thomkal]

To be fair again, all breaking down his forcefield did was allow others to attack him. You and barkeep did basically 0 damage to him...just noting

(Cannonball)

"Ah think we are having us a misunderstanding here Mr. Moon Knight. Ah would think the force field would have to take damage would it not before it could break down? But then Science was not mah subject in school. Techincally Ah suppose we did no damage to Doom himself, but we did do damage. And damage that likely made it possible for Wolvering to take out Mr. Doom last night."

[Barkeep49]

So as far as I am concerned it's a coin flip on whether Cannonball is a bad guy. Our original four man group had three innocents (two known, plus the fact that I know I'm innocent). A random four man group has a 41% shot of being all good, and a 59% shot of having at least one bad guy. So using this math it would actually appear that Cannonball would have a high percentage of being bad. We were one of the first groups to form so it's natural that a bad guy would try and get in on it and Cannonball was also the last to join. In other words I am going to turn on my teammate:

Immobolize Cannonball
Attack Cannonball

I hope Mandrain will join me in this bold stroke.

[Thomkal]

Thanks Path for the Sinister quote. Does not look like that could be conceived as anything but an endorsement for the Professor's goodness.

[Blade6119]

(Cannonball)

"Ah think we are having us a misunderstanding here Mr. Moon Knight. Ah would think the force field would have to take damage would it not before it could break down? But then Science was not mah subject in school. Techincally Ah suppose we did no damage to Doom himself, but we did do damage. And damage that likely made it possible for Wolvering to take out Mr. Doom last night."

I disagree on your outcome, not the facts.

I think you did damage, but only to his shield. If you were evil, which im not accusing you of, he could tell you just how much damage his shield could take. To doom himself, not his shield, you two did 0 damage.

I also dont believe you in any way helped wolverine, much like i dont think GIs forcefields help defend at night. I think they only apply to the lynch.

So i understand what your saying you did, and i hope you understand what im saying you didnt do. Were basically taking the same data and spinning it two different ways, nothing more

[Blade6119]

Thanks Path for the Sinister quote. Does not look like that could be conceived as anything but an endorsement for the Professor's goodness.

It was from day 2, and he went to X on night two. X tells us sinister did not go to him on night 1.

Im really not trying to discredit people here, but i dont think its worth the trust everyone gives him.

Im much more inclined to trust him after america said what he did, but the talgain reason is weak. I trust him again though

[Blade6119]

And im out for awhile, last class of the day.

[Thomkal]

(Cannonball)

Gladly.

I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[path12]

"I'm sorry Mr. Surfer, but the quote from you I commented about talks about Mr. Magneto and mah attack on Doom does it not? So it looks like you are talking about us to me. But Ah'm just the son of a coal miner. Math has never been my good subject, so if you and the other big brains say 9 points of damage was done to Mr. Doom, Ah'm fine with that. Ah felt from your post that you were questioning whether or not Mr. Magneto did any of that damage or not. If Ah was confused about that, Ah duly apologize."

(Silver Surfer)

I was using that post to respond to the idea that just because someone attacked Doom meant that they should move toward the trusted list, which is what had been floating around. It was not a statement for or against either yourself or Magneto.

[path12]

Thanks Path for the Sinister quote. Does not look like that could be conceived as anything but an endorsement for the Professor's goodness.

(Silver Surfer)

No problem, but for what it's worth I don't think that it means anything now. That was two-three days ago.

[Thomkal]

So as far as I am concerned it's a coin flip on whether Cannonball is a bad guy. Our original four man group had three innocents (two known, plus the fact that I know I'm innocent). A random four man group has a 41% shot of being all good, and a 59% shot of having at least one bad guy. So using this math it would actually appear that Cannonball would have a high percentage of being bad. We were one of the first groups to form so it's natural that a bad guy would try and get in on it and Cannonball was also the last to join. In other words I am going to turn on my teammate:

Immobolize Cannonball
Attack Cannonball

I hope Mandrain will join me in this bold stroke.

(Cannonball)

"Ah am beyond shock at your actions Mr. Magneto. A 41% shot sounds pretty darn high to me. Nearly 50/50. You really that willing to risk your own reputation on odds only? Discounting the fact that Ah was attacked by five people on day 1? That not one person has come forward with any night activities done by myself?"

"Ah begin to agree that one of us on our team is evil, but it most certainly is not me. The only thing that is preventing me from attacking you in return at this moment is that you were the one who convinced me to attack Doom instead of Juggernaut yesterday. But I can do this."

Leave Mutants First

Barkeep how many team games have you been in where everyone in a group turned out to be good? I can't believe such a veteran player would make a such a move unless he had an alterior and evil motive behind it.

[Barkeep49]

The haven't been groups like this before. It's a new game mechanic, basically. If it were just 40/60 I'd agree that there's a good chance. However, it's really less than 40/60 since I know 3 of the 4 were good. At least I think the math is right there.

[Barkeep49]

Also I feel far more confident with a 60% shot than anyone else I was looking at today.

[Thomkal]

Not even the people who attacked Juggernaut in an attempt to protect Doom last night?

[Thomkal]

(ooc)whatever, afk for a bit while I eat dinner(ooc)

[Grammaticus]

Guess what fellas? I got another discern truth action upcoming. I'd love to see some of you say you're good.

DD

I'm good.

[hoopsguy]

(ooc)

If I understand our friendly moderator correctly, the damage totals are before any defensive effects. I also think (but am not sure) that they are before team sabotage as well.

In fact, Doom got nine points of damage plus however much damage Mandarin dealt, but the latter did not alter the outcome of the day.

Both team bonuses and sabotage are (potentially) factored into the damage totals reported at the end of the day.

The point about Mandarin's damage on Doom is correct.

[Raiders Army]

(Mathemanic)
Professor X got a vouch from Sinister before the latter was killed, although we never were able to settle on a good reason for Sinister going to visit after making his public statement.

I don't believe anyone he identified as a member of the 12 has been killed yet; subsequent to his making such identifications, we've daykilled Hawkeye and apoc's bunch nightkilled Warpath.

*Deadpool*

Catching up right now. Is it possible that Professor X would be viewed as one of the 12 but is a horseman? I mean, he can read minds and mess with people's thoughts. Wouldn't he be the perfect horseman? I'm not sold on his innocence.

[Raiders Army]

I can clear X tonight.

*Deadpool*

I don't think this is wise since he's already been "cleared". If he does have a power that makes him appear as one of the 12, then this gets us nowhere.

[Raiders Army]

(Doom)
Muddy the waters? Doom agree that Captain Marvel should be considered to be one of the Horsemen, but you have done more than your share of blind accusations.
To all here ... while I have no concrete evidence either, ask yourself this: if you were Apocalypse, would you not go after someone who might have the ability to read your mind and discern your true identity?

Who better to turn into a Horseman than a psychic ... nay, the MOST POWERFUL psychic?

I come back to this. IIRC, this is not when Captain Marvel was in danger of being attacked and killed. Why would Doom make this statement? Is it possible that the Horsemen don't know each other?

[DaddyTorgo]

home and on

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Deadpool, I suppose that's possible, but unlikely. They're picked by Apocalypse, surely it would not be any anyone's interest if all communication had to funnel through him.

[ntndeacon]

(Wolverine)

Interesting theory and I do admit to be alarmed that evil didn't make a kill last night. However, it is most likely that they may have wanted it this way to cast doubt on any night kills that did occur (I as much alluded to my actions prior to the night cycle).

(Mandarin)

I have a problem with this supposition. The problem I have is that they would not know that Wolverine was about to kill Doom...(I am of course assuming that Wolverine is not on the side of Apocalypse) I can't imagine them choosing not to kill someone. So that brings up two possibilities. (both of them have been mentioned, but it may help to see them together.)

a) Wolverine as a hero got to kill first and Doom was scheduled to be the killer that evening for the Horsemen.

b) there was a conversion which took place in stead of a night kill.

Of course what we fervertly hope for is situation a) .


I have another query as well. Did Dr. Doom ever say how long Doombots stayed around? The reason I ask is ...why was Wolverine was ABLE to kill Doom last night? Shouldn't Wolverine slice up the Doombot and not Doom himself? Or was it just for the one day or night action? This may be unanswerable now, but Iwould be interested in the answers of these questions afterwards if we can't answer them now.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, I mean, it would be in our interest, but that's not what I'm getting after. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Deadpool...I am no Horseman. Nor am I Apocalypse. I am exactly who I have always been, Charles Francis Xavier. Son of Brian and Sharon Xavier. I have not been corrupted by evil at any point during this game. I remain working for the cause of good to root out Apocalypse and the Horsemen, and will remain that way until such a time as we are victorious or I draw my last breath.

[DaddyTorgo]

I will not be able to night-attack tonight, and if you all would like me to use my mind to cast about for another member of the 12 I will likely need protection to do so, or else I will be vulnerable.

[ntndeacon]

(Mandarin)

I started off on the side of good, I am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[DaddyTorgo]

I will not be able to day-attack today, and if you all would like me to use my mind to cast about for another member of the 12 I will likely need protection to do so, or else I will be vulnerable.

[DaddyTorgo]

i reposted my post to reflect the fact that night-attack tonight was a poor choice of words (the deadline being at night screwed with my word choice)

don't go reading anything crazy into it

[path12]

Out for awhile. I'll be back before deadline.

[DaddyTorgo]

i initially of course meant to say "i will not be able to make an attack tonight" meaning, before the 10pm deadline

[ntndeacon]

(Wolverine)

But we are kind of screwed if DD turns out to be evil.

If DD is evil, he doesn't have to waste his power to see if one of us is good. He could easily select an evil candidate of the one's that made the pledge and vouche for them.

Not having a seer ability has made me hyper-aware that I'm all alone in this game and am going to have to use my own wits to figure it all out.

Everyone vouching for one another means nothing to me since I can't verify it. Mandarin killing Cpt Marvel could be a ploy.

I'm staying on the team for now, but I'm not really sure now what I've gained by joining.

(Mandarin)
You are right Wolverine. This game is much easier when you know that you be able to either find evil or find more people to trust. every post, just about , could be a horseman or Apocalypse being sneaky.

[DaddyTorgo]

if someone protects me tonight i will gladly cast about for another name. with the #'s dwindling, the odds of me hitting someone that we don't have any idea about and clearing them are good, and we're down to very few people who could actually be evil

[Grammaticus]

As requested a few pages back (just catching up)

I started off on the side of good, I am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[SackAttack]

I have enough energy for some snooping action tonight, but not to both snoop at night AND attack during the day, so I'm going to abstain during the day action so as to try and gain some information tonight.

Off to work, all. Will be back post-deadline.

[Raiders Army]

(X)

Deadpool...I am no Horseman. Nor am I Apocalypse. I am exactly who I have always been, Charles Francis Xavier. Son of Brian and Sharon Xavier. I have not been corrupted by evil at any point during this game. I remain working for the cause of good to root out Apocalypse and the Horsemen, and will remain that way until such a time as we are victorious or I draw my last breath.

*Deadpool*

Isn't that what a jockey would say.

Other than the being the son of blah, blah, blah.

[DaddyTorgo]

*Deadpool*

Isn't that what a jockey would say.

Other than the being the son of blah, blah, blah.

(ooc) i just thought it was funny and cute. but seriously RA...you're barking up the wrong tree with me. unless you're evil and trying to turn the rest of the forces of good against me. but with your blistering attack on doom that chopped him down I really can't see that. so how about we work together and find evil and eliminate it hmm? (/ooc)

[DaddyTorgo]

(ooc)

did schmidty ever provide a statement for DD ??

(/ooc)

[Raiders Army]

(ooc) i just thought it was funny and cute. but seriously RA...you're barking up the wrong tree with me. unless you're evil and trying to turn the rest of the forces of good against me. but with your blistering attack on doom that chopped him down I really can't see that. so how about we work together and find evil and eliminate it hmm? (/ooc)

*Deadpool*

Rule #1: Never trust people named after their fathers (they have something to prove).
Rule #2: Never trust people who don't go by their first name (what the hell are they hiding?).
Rule #3: Never trust bald people (their lack of hair makes them feel inadequate).
Rule #4: Never trust handicapped people (they get the closest parking spaces!!!).

You violate rule #3 and #4. The Silver Surfer just violates #3. Therefore you're higher on my list.

Well, I understand that, but I'll go in this direction for today. We'll see what happens later. To be honest, the best thing for you would be to die. I still don't understand how Apocky and his jockeys have left you alive if you're true. ;)

[ntndeacon]

(Mandarin)

We need to be careful. Several in our midst have already declared they would not attack tonight. We do need to remember that it is possible to have no lynch tonight, and that would be disastrous for us. The rest of us do need to put in our attacks.

[DaddyTorgo]

(ooc)

like i said earlier, i don't understand either. probably because they're playing the whole "leave this partial seer alive...he can't find us, he can just cut the #'s down and they'll off him for us so we can use our night kills on better players" strategy.

[Grammaticus]

(Venom)

I don't understand why Deadpool attacked Prof X without any discussion.

[Raiders Army]

(Venom)

I don't understand why Deadpool attacked Prof X without any discussion.

*Deadpool*

See http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1368887&postcount=3001 or ask your symbiote. I didn't think an arch-nemesis of Spidey would be such a.........kitten.

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

I don't think I have to ask your permission to attack either. What happened to your religious phase?

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

I, too, find the lack of attacks so far disturbing.

I'm going to be away for approx 1.5 hr up to and including the deadline, so you have about 15 minutes to talk me into (or out of) a target.

[hoopsguy]

Damage report - let me know if there are additions/corrections:

Post #2934 (7:30AM) Deadpool attacks Prof X (sword)
Post #2964 (10:25AM) Britain projects force field on Prof X
Post #3095 (5:01PM) Magneto attacks Cannonball (special - immobilize, magnetic blast)

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

I feel pretty good about my attack on baldy. If we lose him, no big deal. It's not like he was doing us any good with his "visions" right?

[DaddyTorgo]

wow RA. yeah, except for delivering you a CoT. And that's the thanks I get?

[Schmidty]

HULK BEEN GONE, DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

BALD MAN ON WHEELS TRICKED HULK YESTERDAY, SO MAYBE HULK SMASH HIM. HAIRY MIDGET HATES HULK, SO MAYBE HULK SMASH HIM.

[Grammaticus]

Well, right now Magneto, Mathmanic and Cannonball are the three that I see as likely votes. My teammates HULK and Storm have not given me much to go on. I suppose they are as close as the first three. Not sure what to do at this point.

[Grammaticus]

I'm going with my top choice or instinct at this point:

SNEAK ATTACK to MAGNETO

[DaddyTorgo]

(ooc)
Storm has been quite UTR fwiw. Look at total # of posts in the thread...I'd guess Storm is way down there . then again, playing the odds, no one in the original team Silver Moon has been proven bad, and the odds do dictate...(/ooc)

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Personally, I think it would be bad form to attack me past my ability to respond. In fact, I would suggest that anybody doing so should be under severe scrutiny tomorrow.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, although, in fairness, I didn't really give enough warning. It's just that I'll be really annoyed if I go out with a whimper rather than a bang, should I go out.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Double dola, and, he didn't attack me anyway. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Hulk, consider your vote carefully. Smashing me will certainly not help the forces of good, that I know for certain. And your strength will make a great deal of difference that is for sure.

[Raiders Army]

wow RA. yeah, except for delivering you a CoT. And that's the thanks I get?

*Deadpool*

I forgot: Thanks.

Sharpens swords

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

I had a feeling on Doom. I have a feeling on X. I'm gonna chase that feeling.

[Schmidty]

(X)

Hulk, consider your vote carefully. Smashing me will certainly not help the forces of good, that I know for certain. And your strength will make a great deal of difference that is for sure.

YOU TELL HULK TO CRUSH HELMET HEAD YESTERDAY, WHY SHOULD HULK BELIEVE YOU TODAY?

[Raiders Army]

YOU TELL HULK TO CRUSH HELMET HEAD YESTERDAY, WHY SHOULD HULK BELIEVE YOU TODAY?

*Deadpool*

I think what he's saying is:

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

[DaddyTorgo]

YOU TELL HULK TO CRUSH HELMET HEAD YESTERDAY, WHY SHOULD HULK BELIEVE YOU TODAY?

I was WRONG yesterday. I was TRICKING you. I was just WRONG.

[DaddyTorgo]

What would it take for you to trust me RA?? Jeez

[Raiders Army]

I was WRONG yesterday. I was TRICKING you. I was just WRONG.

LOL!

[DaddyTorgo]

dola

that reply to Hulk should of course say "I WASN'T TRICKING YOU"

sorry i tore off all my fingernails at work while i was bored so i'm making typos

[Raiders Army]

What would it take for you to trust me RA?? Jeez

I'm sorry. I truly am. As I said before, I'm just chasing a feeling. Gotta run it to ground or else it'll drive me batty. You wouldn't like me when I'm batty.

[Qwikshot]

(Gambit)

"Don't really know what to do...haven't an inclination on anyone. I think Storm is a good pick. Surfer is as well. They both attacked Juggernaut at the end of the rush. I'm not sure about Magneto."

ooc:I'm really exhausted today...I may not be able to stay up much longer.

[Mr. Wednesday]

ATTACK Magneto

Sorry I can't consider this longer, but I'm literally on my way out the door. As with the last two days, I'm powering this up. Not even sure if I can get through his helmet, but there you are.

[Qwikshot]

Not even the people who attacked Juggernaut in an attempt to protect Doom last night?

(Gambit)

"I don't think the majority attack Juggernaut to protect Doom. The majority attacked Juggernaut because of his statements...no?"

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Storm or Surfer seem solid picks.

Then again, notice how RA is declaring he just "has a feeling" and has to "run it into the ground." Mighty convienent way for an agent of evil to continuously attack me. Maybe Moon Knight isn't so off with the whole "evil killing one of their own" thing...?

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

As much as I want to trust you Deadpool after your attacks on Doom, especially the early vicious one, the continuing attacks on me when I have been vouched for again and again are not making that easy.

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

I fully admit I have nothing on Charley. It's just a feeling. That being said, I also have a feeling he could be turned into a real bad guy or something. Maybe Onslaught or whatever. ;)

[Qwikshot]

[QUOTE=Qwikshot;1368878]

Post #2499 (1:46PM) Deadpool attacks Doom (sword)
Post #2538 (3:18PM) Captain America attacks Juggernaut (shield)
Post #2547 (3:31PM) Juggernaut attacks Professor X (slam)
Post #2550 (3:35PM) Captain America attacks Juggernaut (2nd attack, special - identify weak point)
Post #2561 (3:51PM) Doom activates force field, attacks Captain America (energy)
Post #2695 (5:40PM) Moon Knight attacks Doom (dart)
Post #2762 (6:57PM) Mandarin attacks Doom (fire ring)
Post #2765 (6:59PM) Doom attacks Deadpool (mystic)
Post #2772 (7:01PM) Hulk attacks Juggernaut (fist)
Post #2777 (7:04PM) Mathemanic attacks Juggernaut (mental blast)
Post #2779 (7:06PM) Spiderman attacks Juggernaut (fist)
Post #2783 (7:09PM) Venom attacks Doom (special attack - withering blow)
Post #2792 (7:12PM) Doom activates Doombot
Post #2837 (7:56PM) Gambit attacks Juggernaut (special attack - cards)
Post #2865 (8:17PM) Britain attack Jugg's helmet, enacts shield
Post #2879 (8:34PM) Magneto attacks Doom (magnetic attack)
Post #2881 (8:36PM) cannonball attacks Doom (rocket blast)
Post #2887 (8:46PM) Surfer attacks Juggernaut (power cosmic)
Post #2888 (8:49PM) Storm attacks Juggernaut (lightning)
Post #2890 (8:59PM) Daredevil attacks Juggernaut (club)
__________________

The Ardent Color System (TM)
Green = trust

4. Blade6119 (Moon Knight) attacked Doom(evil)
5. DaddyTorgo (Professor X) no attack
9. Chief Rum replaced Day 3 by Qwikshot (Gambit) attacked Juggernaut (hero) (special attack)
10. Ardent Enthusiast (Daredevil) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
15. Bonegavel (Wolverine) no attack? (killed Doom in night action) (Doom-evil)
17. gi (Captain Britain) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
18. Raiders Army (Deadpool) attacked Doom (evil)
19. ntndeadcon (Mandarin) attacked Doom in this, but I believe he was to attack Jugger (hero)
21. SackAttack (Captain America) attacked Juggernaut (hero) (special attack)

Non-trust
1. Schmidty (Hulk) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
2. Path12 (Silver Surfer) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
3. Barkeep49 (Magneto) attacked Doom (evil)
7. Swaggs (Storm) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
11. Thomkal (Cannonball) attacked Doom (evil)
16. Jonathan Ezarik (Spiderman) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
20. Mr Wednesday (Mathemanic) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
23. Grammaticus (Venom) attacked Doom (evil) (special attack)

Numbers missing are fallen heroes or vanquished enemies.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Gambit)

"If you look at the voting, it was down to the wire, with Storm, Surfer and Daredevil all at the end bullrushing the Juggernaut vote. Also witness the rush with Hulk, Mathemanic and Spiderman all attacking Jugger within minutes...Mandarin voted against Doom pretty early when it still could have gone either way...Magneto and Cannonball square away at Doom near the tailend, but just before the run on Juggernaut...Is this all telling?"

[path12]

(X)

Storm or Surfer seem solid picks.

(Silver Surfer)

And why exactly is that, Professor? Because you're feeling heat from Deadpool and need to throw out some other names? What exactly have I done? Admittedly I have not been 'cleared', but then neither have you since early on. Who's to say you weren't converted? And if not, why haven't you been targeted at night?

See, there's lots of cases to be made for people.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I have a strange feeling about Prof X too. This doesn't mean that I'm going to rip Chuck a new one, but every time I read his posts I get this strange feeling that I'm being misled.

It doesn't seem that anyone is going to get lynched today and that means that Evil will get 2 kills. We need to step this up a bit.

No hard feelings Chuck, just a gut feeling and my gut feelings so far have been good.

[Bonegavel]

Can we get an order of Attacks so far? (thanks)

[Swaggs]

I'm back and caught up.

For the record: I started off on the side of good, i am still on the side of good, my victory conditions do not lie in any way on the side of apocolypse, and i am 100% against the horsemen and apoc.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Has Spiderman checked in today? I don't remember seeing him around.

[Blade6119]

(ooc)
Storm has been quite UTR fwiw. Look at total # of posts in the thread...I'd guess Storm is way down there . then again, playing the odds, no one in the original team Silver Moon has been proven bad, and the odds do dictate...(/ooc)

There is not a single member of team Silver Moon dead right now. All 5 members of the team at one time or another are still alive. The team is totally disbanded i believe, but its still interesting to note

[Swaggs]

Also, one thing I do not understand.

Yesterday, as we were closing on the deadline, I said I was deciding between Juggernaut and Doom. Listening to DD lead me to choose Juggernaut. So, that is why I went with him.

[hoopsguy]

Order of attacks:

Post #2934 (7:30AM) Deadpool attacks Prof X (sword)
Post #2964 (10:25AM) Britain projects force field on Prof X
Post #3095 (5:01PM) Magneto attacks Cannonball (special - immobilize, magnetic blast)
Post #3143 (7:29PM) Venom attacks Magneto (special - sneak attack)
Post #3159 (7:41PM) Mathemanic attacks Magneto (mental blast)

[path12]

(Gambit)

"If you look at the voting, it was down to the wire, with Storm, Surfer and Daredevil all at the end bullrushing the Juggernaut vote. Also witness the rush with Hulk, Mathemanic and Spiderman all attacking Jugger within minutes...Mandarin voted against Doom pretty early when it still could have gone either way...Magneto and Cannonball square away at Doom near the tailend, but just before the run on Juggernaut...Is this all telling?"

(Silver Surfer)

Is it telling? Maybe, maybe not. Can any of us seriously say that we were sure that Juggernaut was good with the arguments he was putting out yesterday? He would still have been a prime suspect today. That's our problem right now, we have an abundance of suspects but no prime one.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Hey, I mention Spidey and now he's in thread! My powers are AWESOME!

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

Cpt Britain, what makes you trust Prof X again?

[DaddyTorgo]

(ooc) not feeling the heat actually path. just noting that you've been quiet, and that of the original members of Silver Moon (assuming DD is to be believed), you+mathemanic are the ones unvouched-for

[Jonathan Ezarik]

(Silver Surfer)

Has Spiderman checked in today? I don't remember seeing him around.

I've been here all day except for a few hours this afternoon.

SPIDER-MAN

[Barkeep49]

What a shame it'll be if I die.

[DaddyTorgo]

(ooc) strange feeling how bonegavel? maybe it's because i've been checking in a lot from my phone on breaks at work and stuff...i dunno? (/ooc)

[path12]

(ooc) not feeling the heat actually path. just noting that you've been quiet, and that of the original members of Silver Moon (assuming DD is to be believed), you+mathemanic are the ones unvouched-for

Well, I'm eighth in posts, above average, which is exactly where I usually am in post count. So I guess I haven't been that quiet. Maybe my posts are just not very memorable.

[path12]

I've been here all day except for a few hours this afternoon.

SPIDER-MAN

Sorry, I just hadn't noticed you around as much today. But I was in and out a lot also.

[Blade6119]

What a shame it'll be if I die.

I just checked and you have been more talkative then i thought, so in that regard i apologize. I wont be voting for you, so no worries. My vote right now would fall on spidey, but i dont think i have energy to spare

[Swaggs]

I just checked and you have been more talkative then i thought, so in that regard i apologize. I wont be voting for you, so no worries. My vote right now would fall on spidey, but i dont think i have energy to spare

How do you rate Spiderman, Magneto, and X?

[DaddyTorgo]

okay path. fair enough.

am i grasping at straws...yes honestly. because I don't have any great targets to point you all towards. it's frustrating to be able to point you away from people but not towards people.

And there isn't any discussion going on, we don't have a clear-cut candidate for lynch and it's 51 minutes to lynch and if we don't lynch anyone evil will get 2 kills tonight.

so yeah i'm grasping at straws cuz i'm frustrated.

for the record, i'm not misleading anyone about anything. i came clean earlier about the one thing i was misleading about (in my post around like...5:15 or 5:25). everything else i have said has been the truth. so sorry if my tone seems wonky. maybe it's the whole "RP-ing" aspect, i dunno.

[DaddyTorgo]

and yeah it's frustrating that i've come out again and again, woken up early to check and post, and still there are people attacking me and thinking i'm evil. what exactly do i have to do to get you all to focus on finding the real evil?

(ooc) and i have all my RL-crap going on too, which isn't helping my mood n stuff (/ooc)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

My vote right now would fall on spidey, but i dont think i have energy to spare

Might I ask why I have the honor of being your attack (if you were to make one)?

SPIDER-MAN

[path12]

I just checked and you have been more talkative then i thought, so in that regard i apologize. I wont be voting for you, so no worries. My vote right now would fall on spidey, but i dont think i have energy to spare

(Silver Surfer)

I might have put a vote that way also, but what I'm afraid of now is that we spread out too much and don't get anybody. I'm thinking that I'm going to have to go for one of the three with votes already.

[ntndeacon]

(Mandarin)
I am sorry Magneto. I hope I am wrong here, but I do not get that feeling from Cannonball. I obviousI am afraid that gets my attention. And since I imagine you are pretty much protected against any energy attack, I will....
Attack Magneto---karate chop

[Blade6119]

Might I ask why I have the honor of being your attack (if you were to make one)?

SPIDER-MAN

You were my top suspect 2 days ago, then i moved you below LSG, and the next day below doom. Both turned up evil, and are dead. No one else has passed you on the list, so your where id end up. Im still deciding if i want to attack or wait, want to see how many we need to lynch someone i distrust

[Blade6119]

How do you rate Spiderman, Magneto, and X?

I tend to trust X if america tells me to, magneto would be middle, and i distrust spiderman in that group. Magneto has gotten no support, and with 3 evil left but still like 8 of the 12 left they would fight for their allies.

[Thomkal]

What a shame it'll be if I die.

Perhaps you should have thought about that when you attacked someone based on percentages.

MODS: I'm under the assumption I cannot attack. Is that correct?

[path12]

and yeah it's frustrating that i've come out again and again, woken up early to check and post, and still there are people attacking me and thinking i'm evil. what exactly do i have to do to get you all to focus on finding the real evil?

(ooc) and i have all my RL-crap going on too, which isn't helping my mood n stuff (/ooc)

(Silver Surfer)

Professor, I can empathize with the frustration, but you have to admit that it is odd for any kind of seer to openly last so long in a game without starting to wonder about conversion. I really believe there has been one on one of the nights where there hasn't been a kill by evil.

(ooc) Sorry 'bout the RL drama, I'm there myself too. (/ooc)

[Bonegavel]

(ooc) strange feeling how bonegavel? maybe it's because i've been checking in a lot from my phone on breaks at work and stuff...i dunno? (/ooc)

(Wolverine)

Not sure Chuck.

God only knows I don't want to be in the same boat as Deadpoop, but it is just one of those things. I like that Britain is defending you. I also like that Sinister vouched for you. Ok, I talked myself out of it again. There is so much to keep track of that I can't keep it all straight.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

And what have I done to end up so high on your distrust list? It's true that I haven't been cleared yet, but I have tried my best to add to the good of everyone.

SPIDER-MAN

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

ATTACK MAGNETO (CLAWS)

Probably going to regret this, but somebody has to go or they get 2 anyway. At least this way we have a chance to get one of them.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Magneto has gotten no support, and with 3 evil left but still like 8 of the 12 left they would fight for their allies.

I'm confused by what you're saying here. Since Magneto hasn't gotten any support you think he might be good because the horsemen wouldn't want to lose another member right now? That's your basis for not attacking Magneto? If so, then let me ask you where my support is. Are you seeing something that I'm not? I don't see anyone coming out supporting me.

SPIDER-MAN

[Swaggs]

I tend to trust X if america tells me to, magneto would be middle, and i distrust spiderman in that group. Magneto has gotten no support, and with 3 evil left but still like 8 of the 12 left they would fight for their allies.

Elaborate on the Magneto part. I don't follow.

These are the three that I distrust the most.

X seems to be very involved in the game and reminds me of myself, when I am a WW. Always keeping an eye on things and very sensitive when his name comes up. But, he seems to have some reliable advocates.

Magneto and Spiderman were high on my radar in previous days--particularly Spiderman. But they have done little in the past few days to standout.

[hoopsguy]

Perhaps you should have thought about that when you attacked someone based on percentages.

MODS: I'm under the assumption I cannot attack. Is that correct?

Do you want the answer publicly or via PM?

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Silver Surfer, I agree it is quite odd that I have lasted this long. That is why I used the bulk of my energy to cast about for another of the 12 AND cast my illusion the night after I revealed, fully expecting to be attacked. But then i wasn't attacked and I came up with my own name. Which war particularly doubly-unfortunate. And I havn't been able to recover from using all that energy on that one night, which is why I have to keep begging for Captain America to save energy to come and protect me at night so that I can use my energy to cast about for more of the 12 to help us win instead of using my illusion to protect myself (which i honestly wouldn't care about if i wasn't one of the 12...i'd just keep casting about and wait for them to kill me so that i could broadcast to all of you all that i know about who the members of the 12 are. but since i am one, my death would aid evil greatly). I don't know why I'm alive!

(ooc) I'll be very curious to ask our evil players after the game (/ooc)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I don't know why I'm alive!

One reason to keep you alive is that the longer you're in the game, the more we will doubt you. By making us doubt you, the horsemen force us to waste resources either scanning you again, or protecting you, or whatever. It doesn't matter if you throw out all the names of the 12. As long as you are still alive, we will doubt the validity of everything you tell us.

SPIDER-MAN

[path12]

The Ardent Color System (TM)

Non-trust
1. Schmidty (Hulk) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
2. Path12 (Silver Surfer) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
3. Barkeep49 (Magneto) attacked Doom (evil)
7. Swaggs (Storm) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
11. Thomkal (Cannonball) attacked Doom (evil)
16. Jonathan Ezarik (Spiderman) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
20. Mr Wednesday (Mathemanic) attacked Juggernaut (hero)
23. Grammaticus (Venom) attacked Doom (evil) (special attack)


[QUOTE=Jonathan Ezarik;1369445]I'm confused by what you're saying here. Since Magneto hasn't gotten any support you think he might be good because the horsemen wouldn't want to lose another member right now? That's your basis for not attacking Magneto? If so, then let me ask you where my support is. Are you seeing something that I'm not? I don't see anyone coming out supporting me.

SPIDER-MAN

(Silver Surfer)

Spiderman, none of us on this list have any support that I can see. It's not just you.

[Blade6119]

I'm confused by what you're saying here. Since Magneto hasn't gotten any support you think he might be good because the horsemen wouldn't want to lose another member right now? That's your basis for not attacking Magneto? If so, then let me ask you where my support is. Are you seeing something that I'm not? I don't see anyone coming out supporting me.

SPIDER-MAN

Do you have like 5 votes on you? Do you have any? Why would they defend you if your not in danger? '

Barkeep is in danger, so my idea applies

[Barkeep49]

(Mandarin)
I am sorry Magneto. I hope I am wrong here, but I do not get that feeling from Cannonball. I obviousI am afraid that gets my attention. And since I imagine you are pretty much protected against any energy attack, I will....
Attack Magneto---karate chop
You're not sorry. Why lie?

[path12]

Crap, broken quote tag.

[Barkeep49]

Perhaps you should have thought about that when you attacked someone based on percentages.

MODS: I'm under the assumption I cannot attack. Is that correct?
I should be dead with the attacks already on me. So

Attack Cannonball with all remaining energy

MODS: If I need to specify that amount let me know and I'll do the math.

[Blade6119]

Elaborate on the Magneto part. I don't follow.

These are the three that I distrust the most.

X seems to be very involved in the game and reminds me of myself, when I am a WW. Always keeping an eye on things and very sensitive when his name comes up. But, he seems to have some reliable advocates.

Magneto and Spiderman were high on my radar in previous days--particularly Spiderman. But they have done little in the past few days to standout.
He has 5 votes i think, and will likely get more. If i asked you right now who is going to get lynched, you would say barkeep. If he were evil, i would expect people to be defending him.

Spideys argument doesnt make sense to me, he doesnt need to be saved

[Barkeep49]

Oh I quoted that response since there's not a damn thing wrong with using math. I've done a poor job of using gut feeling and I don't do the same mistake over and over again if I can help it.

[DaddyTorgo]

(ooc) this game is very difficult because we can't change votes. so once people get votes on them they're effectively done, even if we figure out we've picked the wrong person cuz no one comes to their defense. ties our hands a bit (/ooc)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

He has 5 votes i think, and will likely get more. If i asked you right now who is going to get lynched, you would say barkeep. If he were evil, i would expect people to be defending him.

Spideys argument doesnt make sense to me, he doesnt need to be saved

Of course, you do realize that right now you look like you're defending Magneto, right?

SPIDER-MAN

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Sigh. Magneto is the one I feel best about of the three with votes.

[Blade6119]

Of course, you do realize that right now you look like you're defending Magneto, right?

SPIDER-MAN

Sure, ill defend magneto. I dont believe him to be evil based on what ive seen today.

So sure, go ahead and label me defending him.

[hoopsguy]

I should be dead with the attacks already on me. So

Attack Cannonball with all remaining energy

MODS: If I need to specify that amount let me know and I'll do the math.

Have the math covered - all remaining energy is an acceptable order.

[gi]

(Wolverine)

Cpt Britain, what makes you trust Prof X again?


I have never stopped trusting him. I do have a little feeling in the back of my mind that says otherwise, but with Captain America's feelings towards the Prof any feelings of non-trust are buried for now.

[Thomkal]

Do you want the answer publicly or via PM?

Publically is fine if you feel it does not reveal something about Magneto's powers we would not know otherwise. Your call.

[hoopsguy]

Cannonball, Magneto's attack prevents you from any counter-attack.

[gi]

Finding it hard to select someone to attack today. Teammates...help me decide.

[DaddyTorgo]

gi...magneto appears to be dead according to him. so an attack there will be wasted.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(ooc) OK, so it turns out that due to one or more f-ups today, a varsity team was using the indoor field we were scheduled on for intramurals. So, no intramurals. (/ooc)

[Swaggs]

Anyone else want to join me in an attack on Spiderman?

I am looking hard between him and Magneto right now.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

I wonder how solid Magneto's accounting is. For instance, as I noted, I'm not convinced he's susceptible to my attack, and depending on how much energy he has left, he may be able to shift the lynch onto Cannonball.

I'm not really sold on either, but I felt like I had to vote somebody and Magneto was the lowest on my list of the group that had votes at the time. And I didn't think I would be able to get back and discuss it further.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

Sigh. Magneto is the one I feel best about of the three with votes.

As a matter of fact, I will not be attacking Magneto. That leaves Prof X or Cannonball unless somebody has a better target we can get a few people behind.

[Barkeep49]

Anyone else want to join me in an attack on Spiderman?

I am looking hard between him and Magneto right now.
You're better off with me or Cannonball. Really you are.

[Thomkal]

Lovely. I have to say Barkeep that I just don't understand this attack at all given what's happened in this game unless you are evil. And even then I'm not sure I understand it with evil being two down.

[gi]

gi...magneto appears to be dead according to him. so an attack there will be wasted.

<Captain Britain>

Can anyone find a good reason to attack Cannonball?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Storm, I'd prefer to save my energy on attacking, but if you intend to use a special on him, I might be willing to power it up for you.

[path12]

Anyone else want to join me in an attack on Spiderman?

I am looking hard between him and Magneto right now.

(Silver Surfer)

I would go with you on that.

[Barkeep49]

(Mathemanic)

I wonder how solid Magneto's accounting is. For instance, as I noted, I'm not convinced he's susceptible to my attack, and depending on how much energy he has left, he may be able to shift the lynch onto Cannonball.

I'm not really sold on either, but I felt like I had to vote somebody and Magneto was the lowest on my list of the group that had votes at the time. And I didn't think I would be able to get back and discuss it further.
So what it was a symbolic act? That seems weak. I mean I understand why people are voting for me, and feel dumb that I kind of brought it on myself rather than going with the flow as I had been, but I would hope you meant your attack.

[Swaggs]

You're better off with me or Cannonball. Really you are.

Better off how?

You feel Spidey is not a horseman?

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

What exactly is the case against Magneto anyway?

[Barkeep49]

Lovely. I have to say Barkeep that I just don't understand this attack at all given what's happened in this game unless you are evil. And even then I'm not sure I understand it with evil being two down.
Except I'm not evil. So you'll have to understand the idea that
I THINK YOU ARE LIKELY EVIL AND AM ATTACKING YOU BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE EVIL

[Barkeep49]

(Silver Surfer)

What exactly is the case against Magneto anyway?
I attacked a whole bunch of the 12.

[Barkeep49]

Better off how?

You feel Spidey is not a horseman?
I don't know how I feel about spidey, I was itching to vote for him a couple of days, but with the starting groups being what they were there's a REALLY good chance that one of the 4 original mutants firsts were a bad guy. I know it's not me, and since only me and Cannonball are left, I say it's him.

[path12]

I attacked a whole bunch of the 12.

Haven't we all?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Anyone else want to join me in an attack on Spiderman?

I am looking hard between him and Magneto right now.

If you want to keep your sterling record of attacking heroes at 100% (we'll just ignore those two days you didn't attack), I heartily recommend you attack me.

SPIDER-MAN

[Swaggs]

(Storm)

Attack Spiderman (lightning blast)

[Swaggs]

If you want to keep your sterling record of attacking heroes at 100% (we'll just ignore those two days you didn't attack), I heartily recommend you attack me.

SPIDER-MAN

(Storm)

Ask... and you shall receive.

[ntndeacon]

You're not sorry. Why lie?

(Mandarin)
I will be sorry if I am wrong. I am sorry that I am not attacking with complete assurance. But politeness I do not consider lying.

[path12]

(Silver Surfer)

OK, Storm, I'm a hero of my word:

ATTACK SPIDERMAN (POWER COSMIC)

[Barkeep49]

Haven't we all?
Well yes but that doesn't seem to want to stop people from doing it.

[Barkeep49]

(Mandarin)
I will be sorry if I am wrong. I am sorry that I am not attacking with complete assurance. But politeness I do not consider lying.
Right. Like I said you're not really sorry. It does irk me when people lie about such things. Be proud of what you're doing: killing good and letting evil go unchecked for another day.

[Thomkal]

Except I'm not evil. So you'll have to understand the idea that
I THINK YOU ARE LIKELY EVIL AND AM ATTACKING YOU BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE EVIL

So the attack on me on day 1 was a bluff? Five people attacked me. And looky here, Doom attacked you on day 1. I think that's where the bluff was. I attacked Doom the day after one of their own was killed when there had already been several attackers on him. Why on earth would I risk killing him if I was evil? You are just not thinking straight here.

I actually want to believe you are good because people are jumping on you like fleas on a dog, but I don't see how you could be good given what you've done here. Any one else attacking me should be looked at just as seriously.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

(Storm)

Ask... and you shall receive.

It's your funeral when I turn up good.

SPIDER-MAN

[Barkeep49]

So the attack on me on day 1 was a bluff? Five people attacked me. And looky here, Doom attacked you on day 1. I think that's where the bluff was. I attacked Doom the day after one of their own was killed when there had already been several attackers on him. Why on earth would I risk killing him if I was evil? You are just not thinking straight here.

I actually want to believe you are good because people are jumping on you like fleas on a dog, but I don't see how you could be good given what you've done here. Any one else attacking me should be looked at just as seriously.
You were never seriously threatened Day 1. Storm? Seriously threatened. Ironman? Clearly threatened. You? Ehh. A bad guy could easily have thrown his vote your way as a diversionary tactic for a time just like this.

[Mr. Wednesday]

(Mathemanic)

Idle thought... suppose, for the sake of argument, that the three remaining villains are Captain America, Professor X, and Daredevil.

Do we have any assurance from outside that circle that those three are good?

[Blade6119]

You were never seriously threatened Day 1. Storm? Seriously threatened. Ironman? Clearly threatened. You? Ehh. A bad guy could easily have thrown his vote your way as a diversionary tactic for a time just like this.

When was storm threatened? I dont think storm has gotten one vote all game

[Thomkal]

I don't know how I feel about spidey, I was itching to vote for him a couple of days, but with the starting groups being what they were there's a REALLY good chance that one of the 4 original mutants firsts were a bad guy. I know it's not me, and since only me and Cannonball are left, I say it's him.

It'd be darn risky to join your team if I was evil with two veteran very active players on it, and another with a lot of experience in Spleen. I would think Apocalypse would have wanted a player with more experience on your team or no one at all.

[gi]

(Mathemanic)

Idle thought... suppose, for the sake of argument, that the three remaining villains are Captain America, Professor X, and Daredevil.

Do we have any assurance from outside that circle that those three are good?

<Captain Britain>

I support Captain America

I have to make an attack with the best guess I have.

Punch -> Cannonball

[Blade6119]

(Mathemanic)

Idle thought... suppose, for the sake of argument, that the three remaining villains are Captain America, Professor X, and Daredevil.

Do we have any assurance from outside that circle that those three are good?

I know daredevil can PM at least one person, as we did it all last night and today. I dont have any evidence that he is good.

I think the one outside clearing of that group is britain trusting america, and that stems from america visiting britain night 1.

[Barkeep49]

When was storm threatened? I dont think storm has gotten one vote all game
Excuse me. Mystique.

[path12]

(Mathemanic)

Idle thought... suppose, for the sake of argument, that the three remaining villains are Captain America, Professor X, and Daredevil.

Do we have any assurance from outside that circle that those three are good?

(Silver Surfer)

Well, Moon Knight has verified Daredevil's ability, and Captain Britain has been pretty steadfast about both America and the Professor, but other than that I can't think of much.