Werewolf LXX Pleasure Cruise - (GAME OVER)

[st.cronin]

unvote Passacaglia
vote Barkeep49

It seems like Passacaglia and Barkeep are trying to sow the seeds to discredit Anxiety tomorrow.

[path12]

I think I have been pretty forth coming with information and all that has happened is I have gotten shit from you and BK about it.

*shrug*

It's werewolf, and I'm vanilla. You know as well as anyone I've got no problem pushing people then.

[Barkeep49]

unvote Passacaglia
vote Barkeep49

It seems like Passacaglia and Barkeep are trying to sow the seeds to discredit Anxiety tomorrow.
It seems like Pass recognizes that I'm a villager and is trying to save me, which is twice as important as saving you, if you are a villager.

[Lathum]

I don't think he ever claimed any such thing. Why does a police investigation/report hand us the name of a wolf? It hands us information, perhaps, about HOW he died, but not who killed him, necessarily.

Stop causing problems.

He had his head cut off, I'm no doctor but I think I can determine cause of death.

[Lathum]

anyone have a vote count please?

[Barkeep49]

Stop causing problems.

He had his head cut off, I'm no doctor but I think I can determine cause of death.
That's my point. I think it's going to be worthless. Reasonable people can disagree.

[Barkeep49]

anyone have a vote count please?
Yeah I think I'm just barely dead.

[Abe Sargent]

I'll also add that the bit about the swords still provides some unease for me.

I like how your language went from "Anxiety is lying about the swords" to "provides some unease" when people starting calling you on it.

[Passacaglia]

I respectfully disagree. And its not at all clear to me that the sword should have passed immediately - Anxiety's explanation makes sense.

You may be right, but I'm not going to get into it 13 minutes before deadline, when he's not a top vote-getter at all. I also agree, based on Swaggs's drugs, that it doesn't have to have passed immediately -- but I don't know how it gets lost like that.

[Barkeep49]

What gets me most about my dying is that you all are going to blame me for it when I come up as a villager. Like it's my fault that I don't know what the hell is going on.

[path12]

What do you envision as a third faction?

I've got to think about it some more. I'm mainly responding to the speculation a little earlier, which interested me a bit.

My dilemma is this. I tend to think that both you and cronin are villagers. The consensus is that we need to have a lynch today, and you two are the top candidates. I'm trying to figure out why and where I should switch to given those circumstances.

[Barkeep49]

I've got to think about it some more. I'm mainly responding to the speculation a little earlier, which interested me a bit.

My dilemma is this. I tend to think that both you and cronin are villagers. The consensus is that we need to have a lynch today, and you two are the top candidates. I'm trying to figure out why and where I should switch to given those circumstances.
Switch to him. It's better.

[TazFTW]

BK -- I knew that RA had been killed. Cronin just posted it here first.


Soooo did anyone see hoopsguy die?
It seems weird that we have two people see RA's body
but unless I missed it no one knows where hoopsguy's body lie
That seems awfully shoddy

[mccollins]

Unofficial vote count:
Barkeep49 (5): McCollins (2033), TazFTW (2045), KWhit (2151), Anxiety (2184), Qwikshot (2239)
St. Cronin (6): claphamsa (2052), PurdueBrad (2055), jeheinz72 (2073), oliegirl (2225), Passacaglia (2191), Barkeep49 (2197)
claphamsa (2): nfg22 (2047), Chief Rum (2048)
Lathum (1): Path12 (2049)
Passacaglia (1): St. Cronin (2079)

Not Voting (3): Jackal, Lathum, ntndeacon


Does that look right to others?

[Barkeep49]

Switch to him. It's better.
I promise.

[Barkeep49]

Unofficial vote count:
Barkeep49 (5): McCollins (2033), TazFTW (2045), KWhit (2151), Anxiety (2184), Qwikshot (2239)
St. Cronin (6): claphamsa (2052), PurdueBrad (2055), jeheinz72 (2073), oliegirl (2225), Passacaglia (2191), Barkeep49 (2197)
claphamsa (2): nfg22 (2047), Chief Rum (2048)
Lathum (1): Path12 (2049)
Passacaglia (1): St. Cronin (2079)

Not Voting (3): Jackal, Lathum, ntndeacon


Does that look right to others?
No. I feel like I have a lot more votes than 5. If I only have five I'm pissed at myself.

[Passacaglia]

Unofficial vote count:
Barkeep49 (5): McCollins (2033), TazFTW (2045), KWhit (2151), Anxiety (2184), Qwikshot (2239)
St. Cronin (6): claphamsa (2052), PurdueBrad (2055), jeheinz72 (2073), oliegirl (2225), Passacaglia (2191), Barkeep49 (2197)
claphamsa (2): nfg22 (2047), Chief Rum (2048)
Lathum (1): Path12 (2049)
Passacaglia (1): St. Cronin (2079)

Not Voting (3): Jackal, Lathum, ntndeacon


Does that look right to others?

I guess it's 6-6 with cronin's vote switch.

[mccollins]

What do you envision as a third faction?

Lathum's crew faction with a goal of getting as many people safely to Miami as possible? (Thus they would try to have inconclusive votes and no lynches and would also be after the wolves)

I guess that would reduce the villagers' winning scenario to rooting out the wolves.

Complete guesses here...

[st.cronin]

Sloppiness on my part. I was rushing to a workshop (as I stated at the time). I did a quick search and that's what popped up. I didn't look at the time.

You do realize those posts you quoted twice, on two different days?

[KWhit]

We don't need a tie today, folks.

[Lathum]

I have it as 6-6 right now

[Barkeep49]

I feel like there's so much of this game that we don't know that inventing a third faction, which seems outside of the scope of the rules, isn't the way to play.

[Barkeep49]

You do realize those posts you quoted twice, on two different days?
You didn't originally point out that it was after the fact.

[KWhit]

I'm afraid we'll have a bunch of people late-switching last second and end up with a tie anyway.

[Passacaglia]

18 times 40% is 7.2. So we probably need 8 votes to lynch?

[Barkeep49]

We don't need a tie today, folks.
Then switch. We need a two vote swing in some direction to get a lynch.

[Lathum]

Lathum's crew faction with a goal of getting as many people safely to Miami as possible? (Thus they would try to have inconclusive votes and no lynches and would also be after the wolves)

I guess that would reduce the villagers' winning scenario to rooting out the wolves.

Complete guesses here...

I am an ordinary villager with no alternate winning condition

[Passacaglia]

I'm afraid we'll have a bunch of people late-switching last second and end up with a tie anyway.

Seriously. People like path and Lathum should get votes in now, so that we don't end up 7-7 or something funky.

[Barkeep49]

18 times 40% is 7.2. So we probably need 8 votes to lynch?
Yes because we had a similar situation with Sonic in terms of the # of votes and it was less than the number rounded up. It seems like we need at least 40% so 7 votes wouldn't get us to 40%.

[KWhit]

Sigh.

[Barkeep49]

I'm afraid we'll have a bunch of people late-switching last second and end up with a tie anyway.
We don't know that a tie is a bad thing. I tend to believe there is a tie breaker because the rules imply it.

[path12]

You didn't originally point out that it was after the fact.

On the fence until this.

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE BARKEEP

It seemed to me he called that out instantly.

[Barkeep49]

"The tiebreaker for votes is unannounced to start in this game, as is the determination for what is required to "win a vote" is what the rules say. I feel like there IS a tie breaker therefore, not "No one is lynched in a tie". It was that sentence which also made me think that we had a minimum percentage on that first day.

[Lathum]

VOTE St. Cronin

[path12]

What gets me most about my dying is that you all are going to blame me for it when I come up as a villager. Like it's my fault that I don't know what the hell is going on.

I hate that too. I promise I won't blame you.

[mccollins]

Unofficial vote count:
Barkeep49 (6): McCollins (2033), TazFTW (2045), KWhit (2151), Anxiety (2184), Qwikshot (2239), St. Cronin (2251), Path12 (2282)
St. Cronin (6): claphamsa (2052), PurdueBrad (2055), jeheinz72 (2073), oliegirl (2225), Passacaglia (2191), Barkeep49 (2197)
claphamsa (2): nfg22 (2047), Chief Rum (2048)


Not Voting (3): Jackal, Lathum, ntndeacon

[claphamsa]

unvote cronin
vote bk

[Barkeep49]

I hate that too. I promise I won't blame you.
It's human nature not to admit you're wrong. I can't get too upset at people for it.

[jeheinz72]

Unvote Cronin
Vote Barkeep

[claphamsa]

I wanna see SOMETHIGN happen/

[st.cronin]

Barkeep, if you're a villager, I hope the tie lynches me.

[Barkeep49]

You all just killed two villagers. Nice.

[Lathum]

For the record I tied it on purpose

[jeheinz72]

I'm not allowing a tie if I can help it.

[KWhit]

This is so stupid.

[st.cronin]

Wow, never mind. No chance of a tie now.

[Alan T]

Deadline

[mccollins]

As of Post #2286:
Unofficial vote count:
Barkeep49 (6): McCollins (2033), TazFTW (2045), KWhit (2151), Anxiety (2184), Qwikshot (2239), St. Cronin (2251), Path12 (2282)
St. Cronin (7): claphamsa (2052), PurdueBrad (2055), jeheinz72 (2073), oliegirl (2225), Passacaglia (2191), Barkeep49 (2197), Lathum (2284)
claphamsa (2): nfg22 (2047), Chief Rum (2048)


Not Voting (2): Jackal, ntndeacon

[Lathum]

sigh.

late shenanigans

[jeheinz72]

I think Cronin is "guiltier" but I've had enough with the ties and no lynchings.

[Barkeep49]

Wow, never mind. No chance of a tie now.
Yup. My apologies to the other villager who dies now. I feel bad that you're innocent and got tangled up in my "innocence".

[Barkeep49]

I think Cronin is "guiltier" but I've had enough with the ties and no lynchings.
Well in this case no lynch would have been better.

[claphamsa]

I agree
with
heinze

[jeheinz72]

sigh.

late shenanigans

Says he who intentionally tied it just moments earlier.

[jeheinz72]

I agree
with
heinze

It's going to get ugly if Clap is now forced to rhyme.

[Alan T]

This is my final vote count. If I errored in some way, speak now or forever hold your peace:

(9) Barkeep - mccollins (2033), tazftw (2045), kwhit (2151), anxiety (2184), qwikshot (2239), St.cronin (2251), path12 (2282), Claphamsa (2287), jeheinz72 (2289)
(5) St.cronin - Purduebrad (2055), passacaglia (2191), barkeep (2197), oliegirl (2225), Lathum (2284)
(2) claphamsa - nfg22 (2047), chief rum (2048)

[claphamsa]

It's going to get ugly if Clap is now forced to rhyme.

you dont
think I can
do it, or wont
poop in a can?

[Lathum]

is it that lopsided?

[jeheinz72]

Yup. My apologies to the other villager who dies now. I feel bad that you're innocent and got tangled up in my "innocence".

Something doesn't mesh here. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you're fate is tied to that of another, then yeah, why'd you play that way? You weren't a vanilla villager like you said you were earlier. You had someone else on the line and should have played it as such.

[Lathum]

I think BK is possibly postering in case of a no lynch

[jeheinz72]

I think BK is possibly postering in case of a no lynch

Yeah because he just contradicted something he himself posted not 20-30 minutes ago.

[mccollins]

Something doesn't mesh here. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you're fate is tied to that of another, then yeah, why'd you play that way? You weren't a vanilla villager like you said you were earlier. You had someone else on the line and should have played it as such.

I think he's expecting a night kill...

[Barkeep49]

Yeah because he just contradicted something he himself posted not 20-30 minutes ago.
Where I'd say otherwise?

[Passacaglia]

wtf?

[path12]

Jesus, I'm frustrated with this game right now. We need some roles to start speaking up and get some friggin' info out here.

[Barkeep49]

Something doesn't mesh here. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you're fate is tied to that of another, then yeah, why'd you play that way? You weren't a vanilla villager like you said you were earlier. You had someone else on the line and should have played it as such.
Why should my game be different because I'm not a vanilla villager? A little controversy is a good thing since it keeps the wolves away from you. I'm just amazed that you all snowballed this into something it's not.

[KWhit]

Yup. My apologies to the other villager who dies now. I feel bad that you're innocent and got tangled up in my "innocence".

Yeah, what do you mean by this?

[Barkeep49]

Jesus, I'm frustrated with this game right now. We need some roles to start speaking up and get some friggin' info out here.
I think someone with a role has already spoken up. I hope he gets support tomorrow for his lynching (and this someone hasn't spoken up about Cronin).

[jeheinz72]

What does my lynch tell you? We're getting awfully close to my dying and people are going to claim when I show up as a villager "Oh well he seemed bad. He shouldn't have played that way". How else is a villager supposed to play? I don't have any more information than any other vanilla villager, so of course I'm unsure and vacillating. It's far easier to be confident when you're a wolf and you know the answers.

BK, here's where you said you were a Vanilla Villager.

Now maybe you are a vanilla villager, but you can't be both that and have some thing where now 2 people die because of your death.

[jeheinz72]

Why should my game be different because I'm not a vanilla villager? A little controversy is a good thing since it keeps the wolves away from you. I'm just amazed that you all snowballed this into something it's not.

But my point is, you just claimed to be a Vanilla villager like 20-30 minutes ago. So which is it?

[Barkeep49]

BK, here's where you said you were a Vanilla Villager.

Now maybe you are a vanilla villager, but you can't be both that and have some thing where now 2 people die because of your death.
You're right. I'm not a vanilla villager, but it hardly behooves me to say otherwise.

[Lathum]

I think someone with a role has already spoken up. I hope he gets support tomorrow for his lynching (and this someone hasn't spoken up about Cronin).

who are you talking about?

[mccollins]

This is my final vote count. If I errored in some way, speak now or forever hold your peace:

(9) Barkeep - mccollins (2033), tazftw (2045), kwhit (2151), anxiety (2184), qwikshot (2239), St.cronin (2251), path12 (2282), Claphamsa (2287), jeheinz72 (2289)
(5) St.cronin - Purduebrad (2055), passacaglia (2191), barkeep (2197), oliegirl (2225), Lathum (2284)
(2) claphamsa - nfg22 (2047), chief rum (2048)



I updated my little 'unofficial' tally with the late vote switchers and came up with the same. I think it's right.

[Passacaglia]

You're right. I'm not a vanilla villager, but it hardly behooves me to say otherwise.

But why mention it now? For all we know, you might not get lynched.

[jeheinz72]

You're right. I'm not a vanilla villager, but it hardly behooves me to say otherwise.

Uh, I dunno. Close to deadline in a late vote is probably a pretty darned good time to, actually.

[st.cronin]

I was kind of hoping for a tie, actually. I thought info on the tiebreaker would be useful.

[jeheinz72]

I guess my point is BK, don't go pinning this all on us, like you predicted you would by blaming us for making a sensible move.

If you're a villager, then so be it, I've contributed to voting out a villager before and I'm sure I'll do it many times again. But don't go with this "oh now 2 villagers are gonna die thanks to you guys" schtick because that doesn't fly.

[The Jackal]

Ugh guys I'm sorry, it was a combination of me forgetting the deadline/me being busy most of the morning.

I guess we'll find out what happens.

[PurdueBrad]

:(

[Lathum]

I guess my point is BK, don't go pinning this all on us, like you predicted you would by blaming us for making a sensible move.

If you're a villager, then so be it, I've contributed to voting out a villager before and I'm sure I'll do it many times again. But don't go with this "oh now 2 villagers are gonna die thanks to you guys" schtick because that doesn't fly.

I agree 100%.

It's one thing to protect your role but you know a time comes when you need to reveal.

If another villagers life is at stake as well that time needs to be sooner then usual.

[Barkeep49]

I guess my point is BK, don't go pinning this all on us, like you predicted you would by blaming us for making a sensible move.

If you're a villager, then so be it, I've contributed to voting out a villager before and I'm sure I'll do it many times again. But don't go with this "oh now 2 villagers are gonna die thanks to you guys" schtick because that doesn't fly.
Yes it does. When two people die directly because of my lynching that absolutely does fly.

[Lathum]

:(

I guess we now know how you can vouch for BK

[Passacaglia]

:(

Found out I used the drugs on you, huh?

[claphamsa]

symbiots? :(

[jeheinz72]

Yes it does. When two people die directly because of my lynching that absolutely does fly.

Not when

A) You made yourself out to be at worst a vanilla villager

B) You even claimed that you were playing the way you were because you were a V.V. (when you shouldn't have played that way if other villagers depended on you staying alive)

C) You had more than enough time to reveal/tip anything to avoid this.

[st.cronin]

Note that Pass is now claiming to have given the drugs to PurdueBrad. I am going to take a wild guess that that will not be verifiable.

[jeheinz72]

It's like you decided to come out and say "I'm going to die and you're all going to blame me" and now that is happening, but really only because you missed every opportunity you had to play it differently and change what would happen. You essentially chose to let this happen.

[KWhit]

I agree 100%.

It's one thing to protect your role but you know a time comes when you need to reveal.

If another villagers life is at stake as well that time needs to be sooner then usual.

Yep.

[Lathum]

Note that Pass is now claiming to have given the drugs to PurdueBrad. I am going to take a wild guess that that will not be verifiable.

great catch, maybe.

[mccollins]

I don't get it - what is/was Barkeep's role?

Why will two people die (besides if 2 people die from lynch + night kill).

[Passacaglia]

Note that Pass is now claiming to have given the drugs to PurdueBrad. I am going to take a wild guess that that will not be verifiable.

Yeah, it's not looking too good for me if he's tied to the guy you got lynched, and gets booted, too.

[mccollins]

Note that Pass is now claiming to have given the drugs to PurdueBrad. I am going to take a wild guess that that will not be verifiable.

I thought the exact same thing.

[mccollins]

Yeah, it's not looking too good for me if he's tied to the guy you got lynched, and gets booted, too.

I don't understand the mechanics - what does it mean for someone to be "tied" to someone?

I mean, I know Barkeep and PurdueBrad were off the boat together, but ...

[Abe Sargent]

I don't get it - what is/was Barkeep's role?

Why will two people die (besides if 2 people die from lynch + night kill).

There is an old WW/mafia role called brothers/Lovers, where if one dies, the other goes too

[Lathum]

I don't understand the mechanics - what does it mean for someone to be "tied" to someone?

I mean, I know Barkeep and PurdueBrad were off the boat together, but ...

some games feature a "brothers" or "lovers" role where if one dies the other does also

[Alan T]

You all gather to prepare yourselves to leave the ship for another day of fun and excitement, when the captain stops you all with an announcement.. "Attention passengers, this is your captain speaking. Certain events have been brought to my attention regarding some Barkeep fellow that I can not ignore... For that reason, he will now be removed from the remainder of this cruise. I would urge all of you to continue to approach me regarding any shady business that you may have noticed or suspected."

At that point, several members of the crew walk forward and take Barkeep by the arm and help escort him off of the ship. In shock, and in utter disbelief, PurdueBrad seems to be visibly shaken... In a fit of despair, PurdueBrad has also chosen to leave the cruise.

Just as he is about to unlock the gate and allow you all to depart the ship, a few crew members approach the captain and start to talk to him visibly aggitated. The discussion appears to be a bit heated and finally the captain throws up his arms as if giving up and walks off with a loud comment, "Fine! You remove him." The crew members then walk over to St.Cronin and apparently also remove him from the cruise.

After scratching your heads for a few minutes, the rest of you decide that its best you get on with your day's plans before you also are removed from the ship.

It is event response phase for turn 6. I will be sending out PMs shortly. Those whom have a response to make, are due to PM me by 10pm EST tonight.

[Lathum]

Yeah, it's not looking too good for me if he's tied to the guy you got lynched, and gets booted, too.

lol at PAss.

already working on getting Cronin lynched tomorrow

[KWhit]

Say what?

[claphamsa]

so we lost 3 passengers today?


awesome

[Lathum]

Shit.

I got Cronin killed

[claphamsa]

I am soooo confused by the lynch mechanic.....

[claphamsa]

Shit.

I got Cronin killed


how?

[KWhit]

Wait, Pass. You're claiming to have given the drugs to PB? Kind of convenient, no?

[Lathum]

full disclosuer coming shortly

[mccollins]

Wait, Pass. You're claiming to have given the drugs to PB? Kind of convenient, no?

EXACTLY

[path12]

full disclosuer coming shortly

Besides duke?

[mccollins]

Sonic Youth is back on the boat according to post #3.

With 6 passengers gone, we have 16 total now.

[claphamsa]

I wen golfing, played by myself....

[Alan T]

All PMs have been sent out. If you didn't get one, please let me know. Deadline for event responses if you have one is 10pm EST tonight

[KWhit]

Sonic Youth is back on the boat according to post #3.

With 6 passengers gone, we have 16 total now.

I'm dying to find out his story too.

[jeheinz72]

I stayed on the ship (by choice), hoping to assuage any potential sabotage, but saw nothing.

[Lathum]

OK, I am an ordinary passanger.

I chose to stay on the boat day 2 because I partied alot day 1 and wanted to be in characture.

At that time I was aproached by the captain and he explained to me the first mate had been killed and would I want to come to work for him. He said he would let me know when I was needed and I would always be given the option of refusing the task.

Since I was a vanilla villager I figured why not so I chose to do that. Turn 3 I was given the choice to go on an excursion with all the other passangers or stay and help the captain. I stayed on the ship to help the captain and was given the task of inspecting the ropes. I found that many of them were cut and fixed them. I strongly feel had I chose to go on an excursion it would have delayed our trip.

The next day the captain was pre occupied with escorting Swaggs off the ship so I went flightseeing.

the next day the captain asked me to cook which I obviously did.

My "reward" for helping the captain was he would put more emphasis on my choice of who to vote off.

I moved my vote to BK the other day because I was curious just how weighted my vote would be.

Today I tied it on purpose so that I could prove I was telling the truth, that was why I went to Cronin, so it would be a tie.

Obviously others messed that up.

I was obviously surprised when Cronin was also booted, I assumed he would have just surpassed BK in the voting and in essence duking him.

[mccollins]

how?

I'm thinking he's somehow related to the crew and his vote became the crew's action. He's been on the boat every day (besides when he said he went flightseeing on day 4, but no one sees each other on that so he was probably actually on the boat).

[claphamsa]

so we needed 8 to vote someon off, and your vote counts for 3, so we maneaged to get 2.... hmmm, good to knwo. (making upt he numbers)

[jeheinz72]

Interesting Lathum.

Not sure it's enough to get you out of my group of likely candidates for tomorrow. Not that you'll be the one I vote for, but I think you'll be in my Pentagon of Possibilities.

[Lathum]

Interesting Lathum.

Not sure it's enough to get you out of my group of likely candidates for tomorrow. Not that you'll be the one I vote for, but I think you'll be in my Pentagon of Possibilities.

jesus christ!

do you think I just made all that up?

[oliegirl]

This entire game has me completely baffled :(

I chose to stay on the ship today, soak in the hot tub and veg/watch tv in my room. As of right now I have nothing to report and no event to respond to. If I get any interesting information I'll share it...

[jeheinz72]

jesus christ!

do you think I just made all that up?

I think both you and I know it's not out of the realm of possibility. Like I said, it sounds good, I'm weighing it, but I'll still have you in the group of people to consider (mind you the group has like 5-6 people in it I think)

[KWhit]

Pretty cool game mechanic, and sounds believable to me. (talking about Lathum's story)..

[claphamsa]

I think both you and I know it's not out of the realm of possibility. Like I said, it sounds good, I'm weighing it, but I'll still have you in the group of people to consider (mind you the group has like 5-6 people in it I think)

I dont think he made itup.... then again hes one of the few who could pull it off.....

[Lathum]

I think both you and I know it's not out of the realm of possibility. Like I said, it sounds good, I'm weighing it, but I'll still have you in the group of people to consider (mind you the group has like 5-6 people in it I think)

go back and read the thread. Everything matches up perfectly so unless I was planning this from day 1 and everything fell into place perfectly it is impossible I am not being honest.

[KWhit]

Anxiety, did you hear back on your police report?

[claphamsa]

So we need to look at UTR people here, the only ones whoeve had serious heat are me and latum, and I bleive him. and I know Im good.

who hasnt been aroeund?

NTN? Taz? Kwick? Jackyl? OLI?

[Lathum]

by the way, I am messing with someones food tonight, just so you know.

[claphamsa]

so ur the permanent cook? hhmmm

[mccollins]

so we needed 8 to vote someon off, and your vote counts for 3, so we maneaged to get 2.... hmmm, good to knwo. (making upt he numbers)

I don't think it's numbers (re: "couting for 3") for Lathum's. I think that on today only whoever he voted would get booted no matter what.

As far as "needing 8", who know, maybe we needed 9? There were around 12 votes on Swaggs so we don't know the exact threshold.

[jeheinz72]

go back and read the thread. Everything matches up perfectly so unless I was planning this from day 1 and everything fell into place perfectly it is impossible I am not being honest.

I'm not saying it's for sure false, but I can see where it's do-able for you to come out with that after the fact and align some backstory to what has already happened to you. I'd say I maybe 70% believe you right now.

[claphamsa]

I dont think he gets an anuto vote off, or it would have happend before, Im pretyt sure he jsut gets a heavily weighted vote.

[KWhit]

by the way, I am messing with someones food tonight, just so you know.

Innnnnnnterrresting.....

[path12]

I think both you and I know it's not out of the realm of possibility. Like I said, it sounds good, I'm weighing it, but I'll still have you in the group of people to consider (mind you the group has like 5-6 people in it I think)

Well c'mon man, is it a Pentagon, an Sextagon or an Octagon??????

[claphamsa]

Lathum, have you decided who to mess with?

[mccollins]

I dont think he gets an anuto vote off, or it would have happend before, Im pretyt sure he jsut gets a heavily weighted vote.

Re-read Lathum's explanation. Only his vote today was given extra weight because of his good deed of cooking dinner.

[path12]

go back and read the thread. Everything matches up perfectly so unless I was planning this from day 1 and everything fell into place perfectly it is impossible I am not being honest.


I tend to buy that story for what it's worth.

[Lathum]

so ur the permanent cook? hhmmm

I wasn't given any indication it was perminent. The captains asked me if I want to do it again because I did such a good job.

I have a feeling he won't be as pleased after I make someone sick tonight.

[claphamsa]

I wasn't given any indication it was perminent. The captains asked me if I want to do it again because I did such a good job.

I have a feeling he won't be as pleased after I make someone sick tonight.


gotcha!

[claphamsa]

Has anyoen ever seen Cheif be so quiet in a game?

[Lathum]

Re-read Lathum's explanation. Only his vote today was given extra weight because of his good deed of cooking dinner.

thats wrong.

The captain told me from day 2 ( the first day I agreed to help) that he would give my vote extra consideration.

Thats why I switched to barkeep the other day, I wanted to test the theory.

I think Cronin got the boot because it was a closer vote

[jeheinz72]

Well c'mon man, is it a Pentagon, an Sextagon or an Octagon??????

Well hell at this rate it's going to be a Dodecahedron.

[jeheinz72]

...of Deception!

[Lathum]

I tend to buy that story for what it's worth.

to late to kiss up buddy

[jeheinz72]

I tend to buy that story for what it's worth.

Hrm. Color me confused as to how you can be all over Lathum, then he gives a story that while it sounds good, it's possible it's made up (or at least a sugar-coated tinge on nefarious facts) and it's all good for you.

[Abe Sargent]

Anxiety, did you hear back on your police report?

Nope. Just like yesterday, I chose to go shopping, and now have three choice,s one of which is to revisit the police station. I have already sent back my pm to revisit.

[KWhit]

Nope. Just like yesterday, I chose to go shopping, and now have three choice,s one of which is to revisit the police station. I have already sent back my pm to revisit.

I was under the impression you'd get the results today.

[Abe Sargent]

I was under the impression you'd get the results today.

And I should. This game is not divided into night and day, but two turns that make one day.

[TazFTW]

note to self do not try the jambalaya
I decided to go shopping today but ended up with nothing
I should have chose to explore the playas
and maybe I would've been able to do something

[path12]

Has anyoen ever seen Cheif be so quiet in a game?

Jackal is the one that seems quiet to me.

[TazFTW]

Soooo did anyone see hoopsguy die?
It seems weird that we have two people see RA's body
but unless I missed it no one knows where hoopsguy's body lie
That seems awfully shoddy

I did not want this to get lost
but did nobody see what happened to hoops?
we need to know this no matter the cost
I hope it is not something that made Alan T go "oops!"

[path12]

to late to kiss up buddy

Hrm. Color me confused as to how you can be all over Lathum, then he gives a story that while it sounds good, it's possible it's made up (or at least a sugar-coated tinge on nefarious facts) and it's all good for you.

I didn't say it cleared him. But it's plausible enough when coupled with what I mentioned earlier about him seeming more villager today than he had been to me. You give it 70%, I'll give it 80% if you're gonna make me put a damn value to it.

And I have a pretty good idea who he's making sick. That will drop him back down in my eyes obviously. Hopefully he'll have to clean up my puke.

[path12]

I'm shopping also BTW and have chosen my option.

[path12]

I did not want this to get lost
but did nobody see what happened to hoops?
we need to know this no matter the cost
I hope it is not something that made Alan T go "oops!"

I did not, Sam I Am.

[KWhit]

Sonic Youth, where have you been?

[oliegirl]

So we need to look at UTR people here, the only ones whoeve had serious heat are me and latum, and I bleive him. and I know Im good.

who hasnt been aroeund?

NTN? Taz? Kwick? Jackyl? OLI?

Um, why me? And why is my name in all caps (and mis-spelled)?

I was not around much the first few days b/c of RL issues, which I posted about each day to let everyone know when I would be available and when I wouldn't. I also PM'd Alan w/my AIM id so he could get me if there was some sort of WW emergency, and even sent in a PM or two via my cell phone from the hospital. There is no other suspicion on me at all, for good reason, b/c I'm a villager, but I've been really forthcoming with all the information I've received and tried to contribute what I can regarding ideas and theories...but this game has me really confused so I'm having a hard time figuring things out and I don't want to throw bad information out there on a whim and then hae it backfire on me...

[TazFTW]

Yeah, it's not looking too good for me if he's tied to the guy you got lynched, and gets booted, too.

my next vote is going to Pass
he's been saying he wanted to give the drugs to someone who wasn't going to use
so he gives them to PurdueBrad, teacher of an english class
but he did not know that PB was going until barkeep hinted that there would be two to lose

[Sonic Youth]

I'm back.

Where have I been?

My last activity, if you recall, was to go to the beach/dive/swim/sunbake. So, I enjoy a bit of swimming, diving and then head back to the beach to sunbake. The sun relaxes me with its warmth, putting me to sleep. I wake up not in time to reboard the ship and have to make do with a park bench to sleep on overnight. Not only did I miss the previous turn, I'll also be missing out on doing something in this turn, as after cleaning myself up and grabbing a bit to eat, it's too late to do anything. My activities where watching TV and playing some shuffleboard on ships deck.

[Sonic Youth]

Sonic Youth, where have you been?Are you aware that I live in Australia, and the time you asked that is something like 4-5am?

[Sonic Youth]

Oh, and unfortunately, I saw no one and it looks like no one saw me. Though that's could be argued as good too.

Someone mentioned that they also went to the beach in the same round, and due to it's crowdedness, didn't see anyone either. A bummer for me.

[The Jackal]

Ok guys, I have a night choice tonight.

That chick I'm with is the event coordinator for the cruiselines - is there anyone who we think may have lied about their excursion yesterday? I can check on the whereabouts of one person.

I'll take any suggestions.

[Lathum]

Ok guys, I have a night choice tonight.

That chick I'm with is the event coordinator for the cruiselines - is there anyone who we think may have lied about their excursion yesterday? I can check on the whereabouts of one person.

I'll take any suggestions.

my vote is Pass or Path.

[Lathum]

dola- still no police report?

[TazFTW]

Ok guys, I have a night choice tonight.

That chick I'm with is the event coordinator for the cruiselines - is there anyone who we think may have lied about their excursion yesterday? I can check on the whereabouts of one person.

I'll take any suggestions.

Not sure how this will help us as no one died
maybe clap since he said he went golfing and had no one to play with to verify his story
Pass is also someone that can be tried
not sure who else we have to worry

[KWhit]

Are you aware that I live in Australia, and the time you asked that is something like 4-5am?

I wasn't talking about real life, I was talking about why you weren't on the boat. But you answered my question anyway.

[mccollins]

Um, why me? And why is my name in all caps (and mis-spelled)?


OLI is the name of claphamsa's RL cat. Subtle attempt at humor or a direct accusaion? I dunno ;)

[mccollins]

Hrm. Color me confused as to how you can be all over Lathum, then he gives a story that while it sounds good, it's possible it's made up (or at least a sugar-coated tinge on nefarious facts) and it's all good for you.

I realized on the drive home that I could agree with / buy all of Lathum's story but that it could also be incomplete. He could still be a part of the underground without the captain knowing. He's not at the top of my suspect list, but he's not all the way off either.


However, I still don't understand this:

My "reward" for helping the captain was he would put more emphasis on my choice of who to vote off.
...
Today I tied it on purpose so that I could prove I was telling the truth, that was why I went to Cronin, so it would be a tie.

Obviously others messed that up.

I was obviously surprised when Cronin was also booted, I assumed he would have just surpassed BK in the voting and in essence duking him.

I mean, if you know your vote (to lynch someone!) is going to be weigthed heavily, then why vote for cronin (to be lynched)?? I don't understand the argument that you were hoping the captain would heavily weight your vote to tie the overall vote. You don't vote to tie you vote to lynch.

[Lathum]

I mean, if you know your vote (to lynch someone!) is going to be weigthed heavily, then why vote for cronin (to be lynched)?? I don't understand the argument that you were hoping the captain would heavily weight your vote to tie the overall vote. You don't vote to tie you vote to lynch.

I was trying to detirmine how much my vote counted for. My interpretation of the weighted vote was whoever I voted for would gain X amount of extra vote.

Your qurstion doesn't make much sense when you think about it.

Just because my vote tied things up doesn't mean I was voting for a tie.

[claphamsa]

OLI is the name of claphamsa's RL cat. Subtle attempt at humor or a direct accusaion? I dunno ;)

OLI is the best ever kitty, howver im just to lazy to type full names.

[mccollins]

I was trying to detirmine how much my vote counted for. My interpretation of the weighted vote was whoever I voted for would gain X amount of extra vote.

Your qurstion doesn't make much sense when you think about it.

Just because my vote tied things up doesn't mean I was voting for a tie.

But you changed the vote from 7 to 6 against Barkeep to 7++ to 7 against Cronin. From your comments all up to deadline, I was under the impression you were ready to vote against Barkeep or to seek a no lynch.

But, in effect, you sacrificed Cronin to try to gain credibility for yourself.

Again, for the past couple of days, I've had a strong gut feeling that you and Cronin were also villagers as we somewhat drove most of the conversation in a real attempt to identify wolves. And in that vein, if everyone is a suspect, you're still low on my list.

[Lathum]

Cronin basicly stated he wanted to go if need be.

What you need to understand is extra consideration was given to the candidate I voted for, not the situation that vote created.

[Alan T]

Deadline, sending out PMs in a few minutes.

[Lathum]

I hope everyone enjorys dinner ;)

[The Jackal]

Guys, the event coordinator told me that clap didn't leave the boat yesterday.

Vote claphamsa

[Alan T]

You return to the ship after your various daily events out and once again find yourself at a feast. You all sit down and heartily gobble down the excellent food. You notice once again that Lathum has prepared the food all day for everyone. You don't mind if he is missing his vacation to do all of this work, as the cooking is superb.

Once the majority of you have finished your food, the Captain pulls out the mic and once again makes an announcement. "I fear to announce that due to various issues the local port authority has refused our departure tonight pending an investigation. We believe this is only temporary and should only delay us one day. As such, you'll need to choose one more day worth of activities while here in Montego Bay."

Montego Bay:

The recently renovated "Mo' Bay," as the locals call this town, competes with Ocho Rios as the island's most visited resort town. Montego Bay has great bars and restaurants, renowned shopping, and an endless array of leisure activities. And with the friendly hospitality of the Jamaican people, having a great time is always "no problem."

- Stroll down Gloucester Avenue and experience the great shopping and restaurants
- Play a round of golf at the beautiful Wyndham Rose Hall Golf & Beach Resort.
- Explore the island's beaches by swimming, suntanning, snorkeling, diving and horse-back riding.
- Kick back and relax with a local favorite, Red Stripe beer at a nearby Bar.

As you ready yourself to turn in for the night, you realize not everyone has returned to the ship.. It seems Anxiety has failed to make it before the gates closed for the night.

It is now Turn 7. This is a voting turn, where all votes should be made in this thread. You should also submit your PM choices for your next day's event by the next deadline. Turn 7 voting deadline is 3pm EST Tuesday.

[claphamsa]

Guys, the event coordinator told me that clap didn't leave the boat yesterday.

Vote claphamsa

hhmmm, just checked my PM, either she lied to you or your a wolf. and a dumb one!

vote jackyl!

[Alan T]

Guys, the event coordinator told me that clap didn't leave the boat yesterday.

Vote claphamsa


Please resubmit this vote, so I don't lose track of it as it came before the turn swapped over (writeup).

[The Jackal]

Please resubmit this vote, so I don't lose track of it as it came before the turn swapped over (writeup).

[b]VOTE CLAPHAMSA[/b ]

[The Jackal]

haha, damnit.

vote claphamsa

[Lathum]

ok 2 interesting things.

Obviously the clap vs. jackyl situation.

but also Anxiety is now responsible for delaying our departure.

[The Jackal]

hhmmm, just checked my PM, either she lied to you or your a wolf. and a dumb one!

vote jackyl!

what does your pm have to do with where you went yesterday? something about golfing i imagine? there'd be no point for me to lie about what the event coordinator told me.. several people saw me leave the bar with her, and i told you i'd be spending the day with her instead of an excursion

she looked through the passenger log, and it said you didn't go anywhere

[Lathum]

clap is the obvious vote, either way it is a 1-1 and I always will go with the person who comes out first

[Lathum]

VOTE CLAP

long day tomorrow so just in case

[TazFTW]

Guys, the event coordinator told me that clap didn't leave the boat yesterday.

Vote claphamsa

Hmm interesting development
but I'm going to Vote Pass for now
I just don't buy the drug predicament
If Pass turns up a passenger then wow, just wow

[TazFTW]

ok 2 interesting things.

Obviously the clap vs. jackyl situation.

but also Anxiety is now responsible for delaying our departure.

According to post three
Anxiety is no longer alive
another passenger with no more glee
and the passenger count continues to dive

[mccollins]

IC: "I didn't visit any lakeshore or lakeside, I took my first opportunity to lay out on the oceanfront seashore and soak up some rays. It was an incredibly relaxing day on the coast of the waterfront and I drifted in and out of sleep as the tide crept up and back down the littoral over the rocky shingle and sand."
"However, I fear someone may have lied. In fact, I'd bank on it. As we came back from the coast we heard him say:
Found out I used the drugs on you, huh?
Now, there is not a strand of evidence that Pass ever passed or used the drugs on PurdueBrad and that's all a bit too convenient. It seemed that he didn't really want to pass the drugs in the first place so I'm wondering what the story is. Until it is sufficiently explained away...."

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

[mccollins]

but also Anxiety is now responsible for delaying our departure.

That must have been a pretty damning police report. Who was pushing that we should not wait for him to receive it from the police station on day 6?

(Seems like Barkeep!)

[Lathum]

Don't you guys who are voting for Pass feel the better play is Clap who has basicly been outed?

[Lathum]

That must have been a pretty damning police report. Who was pushing that we should not wait for him to receive it from the police station on day 6?

(Seems like Barkeep!)

i don't see what you are getting at?

[mccollins]

I dunno - why should I believe Jackal?

4 people go golfing one day and then claphamsa is supposed to have lied and thrown it out there that he went golfing and no one else showed up? This is one of those events where everyone sees each other. If he was going to lie, I figure he'd pick something like flightseeing (well, something that occurs at our location).

Also, I thought someone just pointed out that the murders have been taking place off the boat and thus it might be a bit less suspicious to have stayed on the boat?

[TazFTW]

Don't you guys who are voting for Pass feel the better play is Clap who has basicly been outed?

Not really
Since Anxiety was a passenger then it would seem to me he told the truth about the fortune teller
One way to look at that is that clap was good at that time of the "scan" silly
Another way is that event meant Clap was an unturnable feller

[mccollins]

i don't see what you are getting at?

Anxiety was really a passenger. He was most likely killed because the police report was going to have some juicy info. I recalled someone pushing for us to go ahead and lynch Anxiety even though he might reveal a wolf to us (indeed it was as I had remembered: Barkeep voted for Anxiety in post 2038 and only stopped pushing for his lynching when he could not raise support).

[Lathum]

Anxiety was really a passenger. He was most likely killed because the police report was going to have some juicy info. I recalled someone pushing for us to go ahead and lynch Anxiety even though he might reveal a wolf to us (indeed it was as I had remembered: Barkeep voted for Anxiety in post 2038 and only stopped pushing for his lynching when he could not raise support).

but Barkeep has been removed from the boat and proven good

[Lathum]

I dunno - why should I believe Jackal?

4 people go golfing one day and then claphamsa is supposed to have lied and thrown it out there that he went golfing and no one else showed up? This is one of those events where everyone sees each other. If he was going to lie, I figure he'd pick something like flightseeing (well, something that occurs at our location).

Also, I thought someone just pointed out that the murders have been taking place off the boat and thus it might be a bit less suspicious to have stayed on the boat?

so do you think Jackyl is lying then?

[path12]

Anxiety was either in a car that crashed or (I believe more likely) was hit by a car and killed. I saw what was left of him bloody in the street while shopping. Grossed me out.

[Lathum]

Anxiety was either in a car that crashed or (I believe more likely) was hit by a car and killed. I saw what was left of him bloody in the street while shopping. Grossed me out.

how's your tummy?

[mccollins]

but Barkeep has been removed from the boat and proven good

I know...
I was just pointing out that, for whatever reason, he was pushing for us to go ahead and lynch Anxiety. We should look back to see who was encouraging this idea as well.

[KWhit]

Wow. Jackal outs Clap, Anxiety dies, Pass lies. Right after we lose 3 villagers at once.

After 3-4 days of NOTHING happening, all of a sudden things are heating up!

[KWhit]

Anxiety was either in a car that crashed or (I believe more likely) was hit by a car and killed. I saw what was left of him bloody in the street while shopping. Grossed me out.

Did you see anyone else while shopping?

[path12]

how's your tummy?

No problems so far.

[path12]

Did you see anyone else while shopping?

No. I know Anxiety mentioned he was going back to the police station. I decided that might delay the ship and went to the craft shops instead. As I was going back to the ship I heard the crash and saw Anxiety lying in the road dead.

[path12]

For now,

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

I don't know how much I trust Jackal yet.

[Chief Rum]

Oh, and unfortunately, I saw no one and it looks like no one saw me. Though that's could be argued as good too.

Someone mentioned that they also went to the beach in the same round, and due to it's crowdedness, didn't see anyone either. A bummer for me.

That was me, and that is correct. I did not see you, but my PM was clear that the crowded beach would make it impossible to see if anyone else from the cruise was there.

[Chief Rum]

Has anyoen ever seen Cheif be so quiet in a game?

Yeah, I have been quiet in this game, although once you play with me more often, you'll see this happens every now and then, depending on game mechanics and/or deadlines.

In this case, it is the deadline. Usually the voting deadline is at night, and I am here contributing at that time, and then around afterward to kibitz about the results.

In this case, I am not around for the vote at all, and usually have to throw in a somewhat "blind" vote the night before. And by the time I get back from work, you guys have usually talked out the stuff from the voting deadline, and people haven't really been around for the late deadline.

Hope that makes sense. I try to contribute in spurts like this where I can, although it is more difficult when I don't have too many people around to respond to me.

[Chief Rum]

Guys, the event coordinator told me that clap didn't leave the boat yesterday.

Vote claphamsa

Really? He said he went golfing (and saw no one).

[Chief Rum]

Wow, not sure how to read all this.

I think Lathum is telling the truth, although I have leaned that way from the get go. But I thought someone was going to get sick tonight? Lathum? You're high on my trust list right now, but I have to say not following through on that strikes me as odd.

As for clap, here is what I want to know. Let's say Jackyl is telling the truth, and clap was lying. Okay, why? What happened on the ship? Barkeep and PurdueBrad were brothers, and BK was lynched. st.cronin seems likely to have been removed by Lathum's vote somehow. Anxiety was killed off the boat.

So if he stayed on the boat, WTH was clap doing anyway? That's what I really want to know, and I am afraid we may find out today.

I don't buy The Jackyl lying, for the simple reason that there was no reason to do it. A player not under much suspicion "outing" another player not under much suspicion? What's the point of doing that. So I buy The Jackal's story, and that means clap lied.

If it weren't for that, I am pretty sure I would vote for Passacaglia. Come on, you really think we'll just buy you using that on PB? Funny thing is, let's say, as we suspect, he didn't use them on PB. Well, who did he use them on? Since no one we know of has been knocked out, I would guess no one, and he may still have them. Well, if someone is knocked in the future, we will know who did it, won't we? So what good was it to not drug someone?

I don't necessarily buy the PB thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Pass just flat passed the drugs to someone else altogther.

But clap strikes me as more guilty right now, especially considering I felt I had reason to vote for him yesterday as well (his hidden item passing, possibility he received the sword from Anxiety).

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[The Jackal]

Don't get me wrong, I think Pass is a good vote too, and if the majority of the vote thinks so I'm willing to let clap live a day, I guess, but he did blatantly lie.

[nfg22]

Vote Claphamsa

[Qwikshot]

"Seriously folks, what is going on with this trip...y'know I didn't sign up for this...all this death...I can't look at a Bloody Mary the same way again...thank god I don't /drink/ them...

I thought this would be safe, I believed flying to be more dangerous....I recall once flying in a small plane...really small, like six passengers...no flight attendant, no in-flight movie...meal was a basket of biscuits made by the pilot's wife, and he goes and calls the best one for him...and I told him, I'm having that one...and he goes, oh really, and then begins to /divebomb/ the plane...needless to say, he got his biscuit and we got to our destination (but I was quiet the rest of the flight...)

...but all this misdirection and stuff...we've got to stick to one suspect and go with it y'know...to much like the United Nations, with this one doing that, and this one going here...I mean, how does one get anything done...so let's stop with the multiple choices and pare it down to one...and the one that has been in and out of the bulleye's for so long is that claphamsa dude...not saying that there aren't other worthwhile choices, but the captain does seem the type to have more than one walk the plank, and with all this killing digging into my margarita time, we've got to start making some progress here..."

Vote Claphamsa

"By the way, I did not go out sightseeing yesterday...stayed in the cabin and watched the tele and dozed off...I figure I'd /at least/ disclose what I did, which was hardly anything, though I wish room service had gotten me a margarita...guess that Lathum fellow is too bloody busy to do that..."

[claphamsa]

I dunno - why should I believe Jackal?

4 people go golfing one day and then claphamsa is supposed to have lied and thrown it out there that he went golfing and no one else showed up? This is one of those events where everyone sees each other. If he was going to lie, I figure he'd pick something like flightseeing (well, something that occurs at our location).

Also, I thought someone just pointed out that the murders have been taking place off the boat and thus it might be a bit less suspicious to have stayed on the boat?
I went golfing the day after the 4some.

[claphamsa]

Yeah, I have been quiet in this game, although once you play with me more often, you'll see this happens every now and then, depending on game mechanics and/or deadlines.

In this case, it is the deadline. Usually the voting deadline is at night, and I am here contributing at that time, and then around afterward to kibitz about the results.

In this case, I am not around for the vote at all, and usually have to throw in a somewhat "blind" vote the night before. And by the time I get back from work, you guys have usually talked out the stuff from the voting deadline, and people haven't really been around for the late deadline.

Hope that makes sense. I try to contribute in spurts like this where I can, although it is more difficult when I don't have too many people around to respond to me.


makes perfect sense

[claphamsa]

Ok, all caught up, sun has risen, looks like its me or pass today, Im fine with going. I am 10000% convinced that Jackyl is a wolf. Im just hopign he isnt one that we have to kill twice to get rid of, but once I come up as a vilager youl know hes bad!

[mccollins]

I went golfing the day after the 4some.

I know. And they all saw and identified one another. So why would you take a chance and lie about going there if there existed the possibility that someone could have gone and shown that you were not there?

Thus, I tend to believe you over Jackal. Perhaps that is my mistake. I'll re-evaluate in a few hours after class.

[Lathum]

In response to what CR said about me poisining someones food, I was basicly told it will take some time to see if there was any effect

[claphamsa]

I know. And they all saw and identified one another. So why would you take a chance and lie about going there if there existed the possibility that someone could have gone and shown that you were not there?

Thus, I tend to believe you over Jackal. Perhaps that is my mistake. I'll re-evaluate in a few hours after class.

the thing that confuses me is... why would Jackyl lie about this? I mean I get lynched, and wala im good..... what could he possibly have to gain, cuz then EVERYONe will know hes bad.... makes no sense.

[Lathum]

the thing that confuses me is... why would Jackyl lie about this? I mean I get lynched, and wala im good..... what could he possibly have to gain, cuz then EVERYONe will know hes bad.... makes no sense.

which is why there is no reason not to believe him

[claphamsa]

I dont blame you for beliving him... I would. Except I know hes lying!

[Lathum]

I dont blame you for beliving him... I would. Except I know hes lying!

and if he is then he goes next.

[Lathum]

OK, I have an idea.

Yesterday my vote for Cronin carried extra weight and everyone got the boot.

Now that may have been a 1 time thing, I don't know. But why not try and keep the vote semi close and I'll vote for Passacaglia at the deadline.

If we keep it close enough it's possible both Pass and Clap get voted off today.

[Qwikshot]

OK, I have an idea.

Yesterday my vote for Cronin carried extra weight and everyone got the boot.

Now that may have been a 1 time thing, I don't know. But why not try and keep the vote semi close and I'll vote for Passacaglia at the deadline.

If we keep it close enough it's possible both Pass and Clap get voted off today.


"This is not a time for experimenting...we gotta vote someone off without any voting manipulations...personally, if Claphamsa is innocent, then Jackyl is not, vote accordingly...if Clap is bad, then we can move onto Pass...let's not play these games anymore...one suspect, one vote...I'm sorry this clap fellow bares the brunt, but he's been on the edge and back enough times, and damn if it's found out he's guilty as sin and been sitting out in the open doing it this long...anything that deviates is suspicious because it mucks up the vote...one vote, one suspect...cripes you can put me on the list next if clap is innocent, I'd rather have margartias in Jamaica then Haiti...if the boat can make it that far..."

[Qwikshot]

"Mr Lathum, the key thing to me is that we did more harm than good yesterday, losing three innocent at the vote, then mr. nervous in an unfortunate accident...I'm not amused this is digging into my margarita time...personally, experiments aside, your vote did little good yesterday, and trying it out for experimental purposes doesn't lead me to believe it'll be any better today...this whole food thing could be a red herring too, I mean while I believe Mr. Lathum is cooking, it doesn't neccessarily clear him of wrong-doing and the one who may or may not be a victim could be acting...thus staying on the ship, thus causing issues, nefarious issues...

So I reinterate, to vote the clap off, and get some antibiotics...bodies are starting to hit the floor, and not in the odd slamdancing type way..."

[jeheinz72]

Ok, all caught up, sun has risen, looks like its me or pass today, Im fine with going. I am 10000% convinced that Jackyl is a wolf. Im just hopign he isnt one that we have to kill twice to get rid of, but once I come up as a vilager youl know hes bad!

What's this about having to kill someone twice? When did we learn we have to do this to anyone? PLease explain.

[jeheinz72]

Vote Claphamsa

[jeheinz72]

And if/when he's guilty, I'll be looking HARD at mccollins. There is zero reason to not take the leap of faith with Jackal's story, the only motivation I can construe for him to lie would be to somehow delay time to "save" Pass who was clearly going to get heat today.

My thinking is

clap guilty - mccollins would be next (possibly Taz too)
clap innocent - jackal and passacgalia next

[Lathum]

What's this about having to kill someone twice? When did we learn we have to do this to anyone? PLease explain.

this confused me as well

[jeheinz72]

either way, I think it's just time for clap. Not only because he lied and I likely think he's up to something, but knowing what we know now I think we can go back and look at the previous days votes and really discern some valuable information once we know which side of the coin clap was on.

[Lathum]

"This is not a time for experimenting...we gotta vote someone off without any voting manipulations...personally, if Claphamsa is innocent, then Jackyl is not, vote accordingly...if Clap is bad, then we can move onto Pass...let's not play these games anymore...one suspect, one vote...I'm sorry this clap fellow bares the brunt, but he's been on the edge and back enough times, and damn if it's found out he's guilty as sin and been sitting out in the open doing it this long...anything that deviates is suspicious because it mucks up the vote...one vote, one suspect...cripes you can put me on the list next if clap is innocent, I'd rather have margartias in Jamaica then Haiti...if the boat can make it that far..."

I disagree. Either was Pass is getting lynched at some point, why not advance things a day?

[Qwikshot]

I disagree. Either was Pass is getting lynched at some point, why not advance things a day?

"I'm sorry and when did the underground not manipulate votes? What if you are wrong about your influence over the vote...you are basically splitting the vote with no guarentee anyone goes to the plank...at this point and time, that's risky, running out of margarita supplies risky...won't stand for it...give a monkey a banana, and he'll be your friend...give a monkey a gun, and well, there is no telling where the poo will be flying...we have to retain some semblance of unity...because there is a percentage vote to influence the captain (ooc: correct me if I'm wrong), then messing with the percentage is a bad thing...if clap is innocent, then jackal (not to be confused with the band Jackyl with a Y!) is shark chum material...just remember the underground has a hell of a monkeywrench and we've yet to find one, /one/ of this group...I'm going to be two days late from home, and I'll be damned if I missed my welcoming party - gonna be foxes and margaritas there!"

[Sonic Youth]

Nothing new here with this vote, but if Jakal's information is wrong, he's next in line for me.

Vote Claphamsa.

[claphamsa]

What's this about having to kill someone twice? When did we learn we have to do this to anyone? PLease explain.


I think i read through one of the old games, that a wolf could stop themselves being lynched once.

Im, jsut tryign to come up with reasons Jackyl lied :)

cuz he will be dead nex turn, once I come up good.

[claphamsa]

either way, I think it's just time for clap. Not only because he lied and I likely think he's up to something, but knowing what we know now I think we can go back and look at the previous days votes and really discern some valuable information once we know which side of the coin clap was on.


except i didnt lie :P

[jeheinz72]

except i didnt lie :P

That could be the case, but my point is, you need to die in order to figure out which fork in the road we take from here, IMO.

[claphamsa]

yeah :'( i hope I get ditched somwhere with margaritas.

[The Jackal]

I'll be on the train leading up to and during the deadline, but I'll be checking if anyone has any questions.

[claphamsa]

I have a question, why are you lying? your just gonna die a turn early, I cant see killing me being part of a win goal.


Could I be the holy mark?

[claphamsa]

anyone think of any other reasons the wolves would sacrifice jackyl to kill me?

[The Jackal]

I've been trying to think of a witty response.. but I'm too tired at the moment. :(

There's a chance the event coordinator lied to me, but I don't buy it. It's as close to solid information as I've had all game, and we are running out of passengers.

[jeheinz72]

I've been trying to think of a witty response.. but I'm too tired at the moment. :(

There's a chance the event coordinator lied to me, but I don't buy it. It's as close to solid information as I've had all game, and we are running out of passengers.

You realize if he's innocent, you're likely next, right?

[The Jackal]

You realize if he's innocent, you're likely next, right?

Yup. I'm very much a vanilla villager, so it made more sense for me to reveal this info and most likely nail a wolf, but if the coordinator lied then I'm fully ready to take the blame, because we won't lose anything really important.

[claphamsa]

excpet me, then again, im a normal vilager too. unless im the holy mark, but that doesnt make sense.

[claphamsa]

did you specifically ask which night?

[jeheinz72]

did you specifically ask which night?

Have you stayed on the boat one of the other nights?

[path12]

In response to what CR said about me poisining someones food, I was basicly told it will take some time to see if there was any effect

Still no word about feeling sick yet. I do want to just point out that if this poisoning is severe enough to remove me from the cruise that Lathum would hopefully shoot to the top of some other lists besides mine.

Remember, he's basically been converted into crew, and we know that the wolf problem started with the crew.....

[path12]

OK, I have an idea.

Yesterday my vote for Cronin carried extra weight and everyone got the boot.

Now that may have been a 1 time thing, I don't know. But why not try and keep the vote semi close and I'll vote for Passacaglia at the deadline.

If we keep it close enough it's possible both Pass and Clap get voted off today.

Wow. Just wow.

If that doesn't sound wolfish I don't know what would.

[oliegirl]

VOTE CLAP

Just a reminder, I still have my object that NFG and I assembled. Without coming out and saying what it is, I will give the following information:

*It's a one use item
*From my very limited knowledge of the item, it would inflict a lot of damage and/or kill someone whether they are good or bad
*The fact that nfg had the other piece of this item makes me believe that at the time he had it and passed it to me, he was good.

If anyone would like to make suggestions for who/when to use this item, let me know. I am open to ideas, but am also open to just hanging onto it longer to see what happens.

[claphamsa]

go ahead and kill pass?

[claphamsa]

Have you stayed on the boat one of the other nights?
night before last I stayed on, becasue I was sure I woudl die, I forgot to put in an order :(

I posted this befroe FYI :)

[KWhit]

I have to run to a couple of meetings. May not make it back by the deadline, but Clap sure looks guilty right now. Hopefully we're about to net our first wolf!

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[claphamsa]

I have to run to a couple of meetings. May not make it back by the deadline, but Clap sure looks guilty right now. Hopefully we're about to net our first wolf!

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

not until tommorow when you lynch jackyl

[mccollins]

"Mr Lathum, the key thing to me is that we did more harm than good yesterday, losing three innocent at the vote, then mr. nervous in an unfortunate accident...I'm not amused this is digging into my margarita time...personally, experiments aside, your vote did little good yesterday, and trying it out for experimental purposes doesn't lead me to believe it'll be any better today...this whole food thing could be a red herring too, I mean while I believe Mr. Lathum is cooking, it doesn't neccessarily clear him of wrong-doing and the one who may or may not be a victim could be acting...thus staying on the ship, thus causing issues, nefarious issues...

So I reinterate, to vote the clap off, and get some antibiotics...bodies are starting to hit the floor, and not in the odd slamdancing type way..."

Catching up, I fully agree with Qwik that we need to be united today. No messing around. There are 7 people (all passengers!!) gone now and only 15 remain. We'll follow the logical progression from the outcome of the vote today.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Claphamsa

[jeheinz72]

Catching up, I fully agree with Qwik that we need to be united today. No messing around. There are 7 people (all passengers!!) gone now and only 15 remain. We'll follow the logical progression from the outcome of the vote today.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Claphamsa


Your last vote wasn't for Jackal, it was Pass

[Qwikshot]

Wow. Just wow.

If that doesn't sound wolfish I don't know what would.

"Yes yes (slurp of margarita), I must say when I heard that through the grapevine, it didn't reek of wolf, it barked and bit...now I'm not saying that there aren't multiple suspects, but you have to admit that with our dwindling numbers saying such things is disturbing...we need one suspect to vote on, and off...I made errors in holding off on a vote (once)...but I believe that deviations from one vote one suspect without remarkable waiting for the govenor's pardon a minute before the switch is pulled because of some surprise evidence, that this is what we should do, we /need/ to do, then I can get back to margaritas, and the ladies...those wonderful ladies..."

[The Jackal]

did you specifically ask which night?

No, but I made it clear in my original post that the only day I could look at was yesterday

[mccollins]

Catching up, I fully agree with Qwik that we need to be united today. No messing around. There are 7 people (all passengers!!) gone now and only 15 remain. We'll follow the logical progression from the outcome of the vote today.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Claphamsa


Heinz's crazy finger pointing threw me off; I actually need to
Unvote Passacaglia
instead of Jackal.