Werewolf LXX Pleasure Cruise - (GAME OVER)

[Alan T]

With Render's game seemingly likely to end soon (I'm basing that on my following of the game and nothing that he has said), its time to open up signups for the new game. I'll fill in the story, rules, etc as the day goes on today. Some importants that people will want to know to determine if they plan on signing up or not...

1) Schedule - We will start this game next Sunday evening. First day deadline will be on Monday later in the afternoon. There will be weekend play, however it will be slowed down play and conditional orders are always accepted.
2) Difficulty - This game will be similar to some of my past games such as Tombstone, Clash of the Gods and the Big City. If you are playing in the game, you will likely have some side duty, order or instruction to send in at some point in the game besides just voting.
3) Game clock - In order to not confuse days in terms of storytelling, this game will have a series of turns. Because of the interactions needed for certain pieces of this game a 24 hour clock will not be possible, however the traditional day/night phases have been replaced with a different idea in this game. There will be two turns per each 24 hours. The normal game play turn will exist from 11pm EST start until 3pm EST of the following day. The vote deadline for voting turns will be 3:00:59pm EST each day. a second phase will start at 3:01pm EST and end at 10:59pm EST each day. I will explain this secondary phase in the rule section that will be posted later. And as always conditional orders are allowed.



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One thing that you have never done, yet always had said you wanted to experience was go on a pleasure cruise. Finally, one day a deal seemingly too good to be true falls in your lap, a very affordable Caribbean cruise for 7 days and 6 nights! On nothing more than an impulse, you call up the number and book a ticket with the Royal Lupine International Cruise Lines. The trip sounds outstanding, and beyond just being able to have great activities on board the ship such as Shows, nice dinners, casinos, a swimming pool, and various shiptop type games ; The listing of destinations along the way are top notch!

Your itenerary for this trip:

- Depart the port of Miami, Florida
- Spend two sunny days in Cozumel, Mexico
- Spend a day in George Town, Grand Cayman
- Two beautiful days in Montego Bay, Jamaica
- One final day in Labadee, Haiti before returning back to Miami

What can be better than some fresh ocean air, and some warm sun to help you relax and forget about all of the worries of the every day life that you live?? Right????

[Alan T]

Storyline - You all have joined this cruise as an innocent bystander. One thing that is made clear however, is there is something wrong aboard this ship. Quickly after leaving the port of Miami, the first officer is found killed in his room. Also several million dollars has been reported stolen from the ship casino. The cruise management is torn in deciding what to do, but end up wishing to not make any of their customers unhappy, so they continue with the cruise. Over the course of this game, many of you may remain an innocent bystander, however some of you might have opportunities to become part of the ship crew, part of the dangerous underground or perhaps something even more "special".

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GameTurns - Each 24 hours, there will be 2 turns, one a gameplay turn, and one an event reaction period. The traditional day/night turns have been replaced in this game with the single gameplay turn with a small twist. The event reaction period is an additional period that happens during the course of each 24 hours to allow players an opportunity to respond or provide choices to what events may happen to them.

Gameplay Turns: Each 24 hour period, there will be one gameplay turn that occurs between 10:01pm EST and 3:00:59pm EST of the following day. The gameplay turn will require one of two responses from all players depending on the status of the ship at that point.
Gameplay Turns where the ship is on the open seas between ports will behave like a normal werewolf game's traditional day period. Each person should post in the thread a vote for whom they think should get kicked off of the ship. Also each player should submit via PM to me what activity they would like to choose for the next port. Your choices will be given at the start of the gameplay turn, however some options might have limited availability and would be given out first come, first serve. Due to this, it probably is a good idea to submit a first choice, second choice and even third choice to me in the PM to ensure you get an activity that you would like. Anyone not choosing an activity will be assumed that you are choosing to remain aboard the ship at the next port.

Gameplay Turns where the ship is at a port will not have a vote, but instead will be when you are able to partake in the particular activity that you had previously chosen. Bewarned however, that there might be some nefarious activity afoot! Just make sure you return to the ship before it leaves, so you do not get left behind! In locations where two consecutive days are spent in the same port, gameturns will act such as: Gameturn on ship with vote traveling to port -> Gameturn at port (with no vote) -> Gameturn on ship with vote (despite not traveling to a new location) -> Gameturn at same port (with no vote) -> Gameturn on ship traveling to new location with vote.

I will post what type of gameturn it is at the start of each Gameturn to help make sure there is less confusion to what is expected of you each day.


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Roles - There is nothing randomly decided in this game, including roles. This will allow for alot more flexibility in fake reveals as the sky is the limit. However it might also make truthful reveals a bit more difficult to believe.

Some of the traditional Werewolf game roles may be gained by players due to actions that they choose to take. Others may gain a role simply by being in the right or wrong place at a specific time. Other roles might actually come from items that can be found or passed around. In some cases an item is "incomplete" and you must find the other half of the item, or some missing component in order to complete it and gain a special role or action from it.

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Items - During the course of the game you may receive an item base don your actions or location. The item might allow you to posess a particular role or action, or it might be incomplete and needing the addition of another piece to complete the item. For each item, you will be given an action that you can take with the item, or in addition you can either drop the item, give the item to someone else or do nothing with it. If you choose to pass the item to another player, you should specify in PM to me which player you wish to pass the item to and that action occurs immediately with no possibility of undoing it. The player who receives the item will be told what item they are given, along with whom passed it to them.

Money - Each of you have chosen to bring $500.00 (US Dollars) with you on the cruise. You may find various shops along the way that you would like to purchase something from, or other opportunities to use your money. For the purpose of simplifying the game, all prices for anything in any port will always be given in USD, even if the local currency might be something else normally in Real life.

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Votes - As there is not a vote each day, you might expect this game to occur at a slower pace. Expecting anything in this game might end up being a mistake on your part. When it is a gameturn that is a voting stage, you must post your Votes in the game thread. In order to make sure that it is counted and not missed, you should make it standout in your post by making it bold and in a paragraph by itself such as:

Vote Alan T

You may choose to unvote as well and vote for someone else such as:

Unvote Alan T
Vote Player2


The tiebreaker for votes is unannounced to start in this game, as is the determination for what is required to "win a vote" The only thing I will state in the rules is that getting votes for yourself is not in your best interests. All votes must occur during the appropriate gameplay turn or they are void and do not count. For scheduling issues where you simply can not be available during that gameplay turn, please PM me and we can work out some form of conditional vote that can be made.


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Teams - There are theoretically two teams in this game. The underground, which can be considered the traditional "wolf" team, and then the passengers/crew team which can be considered the traditional "villager" team. That said, a member of the Cruise crew could be working for the underground and have a winning condition with the underground. There also may or may not be other third allegiances or individuals that do not exist on either team with special winning conditions during this game that are unannounced. The allegiance of each player is announced at their death. How they died or what roles or actions that they may or may not have posessed will not be announced, but might be learned by someone's actions during the game.

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Winning Conditions -

The passengers win if they either have elminiated all members of the Underground at the start of any gameturn starting gameturn 4 or later. The passengers also win if the cruise ship returns to Miami, Florida at the end of the cruise successfully. Be warned, that there might be those who slow down this return trip if given the opportunity however.

The underrground wins if they manage to gain a 1:1 ratio with the remaining passengers. Any third party teams or individual players with independant victory conditions are not considered at all in the 1:1 ratio.

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Event Response Turn - Each day between 3:01pm EST and 10:00pm EST there will be an event response turn. At the start of this turn you may or may not receive a PM with some event that has occured to you requiring some form of response or choice. During this turn, normal conversation can continue in this thread, including discussion of what events have occured to you and conversation about what choice you should make. Of course this conversation could influence other's decisions for either good or bad. If you are going to be unavailable during the entire event response turn and have absolutely no way to respond to me via PM, please let me know before noon EST before that Event Response turn so I can accomidate you appropriately. All events will come with a default choice or action in the case that I receive back no PM by the deadline. I would prefer however to work out any scheduling issues ahead of time if possible.

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Contacting me - I usually respond to PMs here in a fairly timely fashion between 6am EST and midnight EST each day (while I am awake). If for whatever reason you need an answer ASAP or my PM box gets full, I will try to make sure to be on AIM each day during the game when possible. For people that I have not added to my AIM in past games, you will unfortunately need to drop me a PM ahead of time to let me know your AIM name so I can add you, otherwise I won't see any message from you. Alternatively any questions can also be emailed to me at dairnir AT gmail.com but please make sure to include werewolf in the subject line, so my wife doesn't think I have some girlfriend on the side.


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Other miscellaneous rules -

Remember, no editing of your posts ever for any reason. If you wish to correct spelling, grammar or anything in your post, you should make a new post with the correction. (You can quote the previous post for context if you wish).

You should not discuss this game with anyone else that currently is playing in any other forum other than this thread. Email, AIM, PM or other forms of communication should not be used unless explicitly told by me that you can do so.

Please be courteous if you end up being removed from the game early due to being voted off or some form of kill. Unfortunately in this game, someone has to go and it usually is not personal. It could easily be seen as a compliment. There is a seperate thread that you can post in to gripe about an early kill if you wish. Please keep any spoilers out of that thread until the game is over though.

I don't restrict people from posting in this thread once they are dead, but please try to avoid influencing the game or antagonizing players that are still left.

The game of Werewolf can be quite heated at times and is a game of lies and deception. Heated verbal banter is expected at times, however please keep it game oriented and try to avoid making anything personal.

I reserve the right to modify any of the game rules at any time if deemed necessary for the integrity of the game.

If you have any concerns or receive any information that you feel was inappropriate or that you should not have received, please let me know privately so I can handle it as needed.

[Alan T]

Important Posts:
Rules (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1696139#post1696139)
Day 0 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1700649#post1700649)
End of Turn 1 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1700852#post1700852)
Voting Turn 1 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1701419#post1701419)
Voting Turn 2 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1702323#post1702323)
Voting Turn 4 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1703452#post1703452)
Event Phase Turn 4 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1703853#post1703853)
Event Phase Turn 5 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1705201#post1705201)
Voting Turn 6 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1706340#post1706340)
Event Phase Turn 6 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1706724#post1706724)
Voting Turn 7 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1707438#post1707438)
Event Phase Turn 7 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1707840#post1707840)

Player List:

1) The Jackal - Blew himself up with bomb. Turn 8 - PASSENGER / BOYFRIEND
2) Nfg22
3) Path12 - Shot to death while on toilet. Turn 7 - PASSENGER
4) jeheinz72
5) Barkeep49 - Removed from the ship by the Captain Turn 6 - PASSENGER / LOVER
7) Lathum
8) claphasma - Removed from the ship by the Captain Turn 7 - PASSENGER
9) Passacaglia - Removed from the ship by the Captain Turn 7 - UNDERGROUND
10) St.Cronin - Removed from the ship by the Crew Turn 6 - PASSENGER
11) Hoopsguy - Killed Turn 5 - PASSENGER
12) PurdueBrad - Left ship voluntarily Turn 6 - PASSENGER / LOVER
13) Raiders Army - Killed Turn 4 - PASSENGER
14) oliegirl
15) Sonic Youth - Removed from the ship by the Captain Turn 8 - PASSENGER
16) ntndeacon
17) mccollins Killed Turn 7 - PASSENGER
18) Chief Rum
19) Qwikshot - Killed Turn 8 - PASSENGER
20) TazFTW
21) Anxiety - Killed Turn 6 - PASSENGER
6) Swaggs - Removed from the Ship by the Captain Turn 4 - PASSENGER
22) Kwhit

[The Jackal]

In.

[nfg22]

in

[path12]

iiinnn.

[jeheinz72]

In.

Balcony room please.

[Alan T]

Just for people with odd time zones, I am making this post at 2:38pm Eastern time. So the normal gameturn deadline would be about 20 minutes from now.

[Barkeep49]

In.

[RendeR]

Reporting aboard Cap'n

[Lathum]

in

[claphamsa]

n

[Narcizo]

I'd love to play another Alan game (Big City has been my favourite game) but I'm not going to be around much until September (paternity leave) so I'll be reading along here and there.

[Passacaglia]

Who wants to hop onto the boat with me?

[claphamsa]

I'd love to play another Alan game (Big City has been my favourite game) but I'm not going to be around much until September (paternity leave) so I'll be reading along here and there.


congrats!

[st.cronin]

*sigh*

I really need a break, but I'm not missing this one.

[st.cronin]

dola

In other words: In.

[hoopsguy]

Cronin, from what I've observed I think you could use a game where you aren't a wolf.

I'll give this one a go.

[st.cronin]

Cronin, from what I've observed I think you could use a game where you aren't a wolf.

Three games in a row, plus I think if you look at my last 10 its 7 or 8 out of 10 where I've been a wolf. Its a bad stretch, I really dislike being a wolf.

[hoopsguy]

It is tough to play when you are a wolf that consistently, as people begin to assume you are a wolf. Plus it is harder to "act normal" game in and game out when you haven't been a villager in awhile.

I think newcomers want to be the wolf. Guys who have played more, and gotten a chance at most of the roles, are just fine with being a boring villager.

[claphamsa]

I think we all assume he is a wolf anywyas!

[st.cronin]

It is tough to play when you are a wolf that consistently, as people begin to assume you are a wolf. Plus it is harder to "act normal" game in and game out when you haven't been a villager in awhile.

I think newcomers want to be the wolf. Guys who have played more, and gotten a chance at most of the roles, are just fine with being a boring villager.

Yep. If I could pick my role, I'd be a vanilla villager every game.

[Alan T]

It is tough to play when you are a wolf that consistently, as people begin to assume you are a wolf. Plus it is harder to "act normal" game in and game out when you haven't been a villager in awhile.

I think newcomers want to be the wolf. Guys who have played more, and gotten a chance at most of the roles, are just fine with being a boring villager.


I enjoy being a wolf alot, but I understand what Cronin is going through. I had a stretch 2 years ago where I was a wolf 6 straight games. It got to the point where I was lynched day 1-3 every single game for a few months and it just became very un fun for me. You can't get too into a game and put alot of heart into it if you're likely going to be gone before it gets good.

[claphamsa]

I can see not being a wolf, but wouldnt you want SOME roll?

[Alan T]

I can see not being a wolf, but wouldnt you want SOME roll?

Sometimes not having a role allows you to really let it all go and get into the game. You aren't worried about risking the seer or bodyguard or some other role with a mistake in play. Its a very low risk, high reward situation.

[st.cronin]

I can see not being a wolf, but wouldnt you want SOME roll?

No, I really prefer vanilla villager. I've been the seer plenty of times, and its interesting, but there's a lot of pressure and you usually end up dead pretty early on. I've been the bodyguard I think only once, and I guess wouldn't mind that again - its a role I still don't really understand the best way to play it.

[hoopsguy]

There is a certain amount of freedom in playing as a normal villager. You don't hurt the team if you are killed early. Because of this, you can play a more aggressive game and not worry as much about the consequences. It is harder to do this as the seer, for example, because you worry about backlash for being wrong or for inadvertantly giving some kind of information to the opposition about your role.

Personally, I've never been Duke in a game. So there is a good chance I'll try and land that role in Alan's game if I can figure out a way to gain that position.

[path12]

I like being a wolf, but it seems I've been bad a little too much lately myself. Nice villager role would be just fine, thanks.

[PurdueBrad]

Still taking players? If so, I'm in.

[Alan T]

Still taking players? If so, I'm in.

Yep! I am taking signups this week. I will take signups right up till I'm ready to start the game. Since I won't be sending out any role PMs, I'll just start the game on Sunday, with gameturn 0 ending Monday at 3pm EST.

I had expected that Render's game would at least last until tonight, and with the post-game discussions around it, people would be itching for a new one Wednesday or THursday :)

[Raiders Army]

f'n'a. Sign me up Uncle Alfred.

[Raiders Army]

Actually that should be "Suit me up Uncle Alfred" but it was a pretty bad movie anyhow.

[Passacaglia]

Actually that should be "Suit me up Uncle Alfred" but it was a pretty bad movie anyhow.

It's okay. No one seems to have caught my Speed II reference. But that was a bad movie, too.

[oliegirl]

I'm in, as long as you think the game will be done and over by 4/18...I'm getting married that day and am leaving that afternoon for...a cruise! Coincidence??? I just hope there are no werewolves onboard our ship :) And, to make life imitating ww even scarier, our first port is Cozumel!!!!

[Sonic Youth]

Just for people with odd time zones, I am making this post at 2:38pm Eastern time. So the normal gameturn deadline would be about 20 minutes from now.:D I changed the time seting on this site for Eastern.

I'm in.

[Lathum]

the deadlines confuse me. but I will probably be lynched by day 2 so fuck it

[Sonic Youth]

I'm in, as long as you think the game will be done and over by 4/18...I'm getting married that day and am leaving that afternoon for...a cruise! Coincidence??? I just hope there are no werewolves onboard our ship :) And, to make life imitating ww even scarier, our first port is Cozumel!!!!Congrats. If we hear of any shenanigans on a cruise ship around that time, we'll know who it was.

[path12]

the deadlines confuse me. but I will probably be lynched by day 2 so fuck it

Cheer up for God sakes. You won the damn Super Bowl. You can handle a few early deaths.

[path12]

Plus you're a Grizzled Veteran.

Wow, think of how many posts you'd have if WW counted.

[Sonic Youth]

Incidently, why doesn't WW count as posts? Would we be then boosting our count?

[hoopsguy]

Short answer: because SkyDog said so

Medium answer: it is widely believed that some of the membership complained about the nature of posts in WW games compared to other threads. Posters would frequently post 100+ times in a single game of werewolf, which led to escalating post counts for a number of the regulars. Which was perceived as a problem, I guess.

[Sonic Youth]

Ah, I see. An inferiority complex. A larger post count to offset....

[Narcizo]

Arf! Extroadinare? Sort it out Sonic, ye big mess.

[Narcizo]

Yep. If I could pick my role, I'd be a vanilla villager every game.

+1.

The bigger the role the worse I play and the worse I feel. Path's still on my hate list for converting me. Although I punished him and the others by bombarding them with long-winded PMs and screwing things up so that's taught them.

I've yet to play a game with st.cronin where he isn't a wolf so I'm interested in seeing what his normal play is as a villager.

[hoopsguy]

Although I punished him and the others by bombarding them with long-winded PMs and screwing things up so that's taught them.


Heh - Narc, we should play a game as wolves together then.

I think the most chatty wolf team I've had was Lathum + Barkeep in the Tombstone game. We had 30+ minute chat sessions every evening while we were all around for the first 4 days.

[Lathum]

Plus you're a Grizzled Veteran.

Wow, think of how many posts you'd have if WW counted.

Well I can't even win with that. I was a coordinator then they changed the scale a few days ago and I was bumped back down to vet. Nothing like an FOFC demotion.

[Barkeep49]

Incidently, why doesn't WW count as posts? Would we be then boosting our count?
Hoops left off an important point. SkyDog uses post count as a consideration when making modding decisions. Longtime posters, who make a contribution to the community, get more slack.

[Passacaglia]

Heh - Narc, we should play a game as wolves together then.

I think the most chatty wolf team I've had was Lathum + Barkeep in the Tombstone game. We had 30+ minute chat sessions every evening while we were all around for the first 4 days.

Me + path + jeheinz + SnDvls might have given you a guys a run for your money in Enter the Cubicle. Thank god for gmail keeping it all in one thread.

[jeheinz72]

Me + path + jeheinz + SnDvls might have given you a guys a run for your money in Enter the Cubicle. Thank god for gmail keeping it all in one thread.

Yeah, that was pretty crazy. We had a pretty insane amount of back and forth.

[Alan T]

Looking back through my old gmail threads, a recent one in a game that Barkeep ran I had 394 emails (not counting I assume another 30-40 PMs). I don't remember who all was on that wolf team though, Claphasma, and some others.. (I'm bad with remember who's RL name/email address goes with who)

[ntndeacon]

I would like to play this time.

[Passacaglia]

Looking back through my old gmail threads, a recent one in a game that Barkeep ran I had 394 emails (not counting I assume another 30-40 PMs). I don't remember who all was on that wolf team though, Claphasma, and some others.. (I'm bad with remember who's RL name/email address goes with who)

I think it was you, me, and clap? Not sure if there was anyone else. I remember that, because it was right after the Cubicle game I just mentioned, where I was on the opposite wolf team as you, then the next one I was on the same wolf team. This was all during my run of at least three games in a row of being a wolf, and being the first wolf on my team to get lynched.

ETA: Just remembered, it was the money game.

ETAA: I didn't get scanned any of those times that I was the first wolf on my team to get lynched. I just suck! :p

[Barkeep49]

Mr. W got converted and was part of that email grouping in the Money game Pass and Alan have been talking about.

[Alan T]

Mr. W got converted and was part of that email grouping in the Money game Pass and Alan have been talking about.


Was Hoops playing in that game? I remember there was one game where Hoops was a viable convert target, and we purposely chose not to convert Hoops just because we wanted to be nice wolves. I don't remember if it was that game or a different one.

[Passacaglia]

Mr. W got converted and was part of that email grouping in the Money game Pass and Alan have been talking about.

Oh yeah!! I *told* you stupid villagers that the wolves would convert Mr. Wednesday, if you didn't kill him!

[hoopsguy]

Was Hoops playing in that game? I remember there was one game where Hoops was a viable convert target, and we purposely chose not to convert Hoops just because we wanted to be nice wolves. I don't remember if it was that game or a different one.

Yep, Schmidty used a villager kill power on me (a villager) on Night 5 or something like that. Good times.

That was one of the most frustrating games to follow along with after the fact as it seemed so very winnable for the villagers, especially after Chief Rum spot-on nailed the bad guys before he was night killed.

[Passacaglia]

Was Hoops playing in that game? I remember there was one game where Hoops was a viable convert target, and we purposely chose not to convert Hoops just because we wanted to be nice wolves. I don't remember if it was that game or a different one.

Yeah, that was the one. I think it turned out that he also had a pretty low "buy-out" number -- but we were pretty well set on spending the full 100K anyway,

[path12]

The bigger the role the worse I play and the worse I feel. Path's still on my hate list for converting me. Although I punished him and the others by bombarding them with long-winded PMs and screwing things up so that's taught them.

I'll keep converting you. You are great to have around as a wolf, precisely because a) you're the most paranoid wolf I've ever seen ;) which leads to b) you think of scenarios that are just so crazy they might work!!!!.

[Lathum]

I remember in the start of the heros game I signed onto my email account after a class and had about 2 pages and I said to my wife St. Cronin really needs AIM.

[path12]

I never like to chat anymore because every time I have it's when I've been a wolf, so I thought people would eventually figure if I was online in AIM then they should vote for me......

[Passacaglia]

I just tell people to hit me up on google talk -- lurker and I use that to chat while we're at work, so I'm always on there anyway.

[st.cronin]

Conversions in general suck, imo. I would like to see them become less frequent in our games.

[st.cronin]

I've yet to play a game with st.cronin where he isn't a wolf so I'm interested in seeing what his normal play is as a villager.

I don't really have one. I try to mix it up from game to game.

[claphamsa]

I am on 24/7 and I hate PMs..... :P

[Passacaglia]

Conversions in general suck, imo. I would like to see them become less frequent in our games.

Me too. I think it totally screws with the whole idea of a WW game, if you're trying to find someone who wasn't really playing as a wolf at first.

[Alan T]

Conversions in general suck, imo. I would like to see them become less frequent in our games.

Conversions to me seem to primarily be a tool to try to counter a seer role. A way to discredit the information that villagers "know" for certain. I think that GMs who don't like conversions could probably use things like a modified fool role, or some mechanism to affect the way a seer receives their information (either through randomness or direct mis-information) to provide the same type of effect.

I'm trying to remember if I've ever been converted... My memory is fuzzy.

[path12]

I think an early conversion is alright. After a certain point I think it's more frustrating for the convert. Though I think I prefer a sorcerer role in a game to having a conversion available.

[mccollins]

IN

(friend of claphamsa and heinz from NPBL)

ps. Post #1 !

[Passacaglia]

IN

(friend of claphamsa and heinz from NPBL)

ps. Post #1 !

Awesome! Good luck finally reaching Post #1! ;)

[Alan T]

ps. Post #1 !


Someone tell him :)



I'm happy for anyone who is playing, always nice to get more fresh faces though!

[mccollins]

Haha that's right, I just read in some other thread that WW posts don't bump the post count. Perhaps I'll revel in always having a 0 post count because I don't know anything about FOFC.

I know this game by the name Mafia so I'm off to see what the differences are, if any. :cool:

[jeheinz72]

IN

(friend of claphamsa and heinz from NPBL)

ps. Post #1 !

Hey what's up man! Good to see you hop on over.

[Alan T]

Haha that's right, I just read in some other thread that WW posts don't bump the post count. Perhaps I'll revel in always having a 0 post count because I don't know anything about FOFC.

I know this game by the name Mafia so I'm off to see what the differences are, if any. :cool:

For all intents and purposes Werewolf and Mafia are pretty similar, just different mechanisms for certain elements of the game. We pretty much call all of our games here at this forum "Werewolf" even though we quite often have games that don't resemble Werewolf at all other than in name.

This game likely will probably be closer to mafia in many cases than a werewolf game, so probably not necessarily a great game to get a classic werewolf example :)

[Alan T]

I've made a late addition to the rules in post #2. It is simply the normal standardized rules I include in all of my games.. Play nice, don't do this, don't edit posts, etc.

Since we have an extra 3 days or so before the game starts, this is a good time for any questions that anyone may have regarding the rules to be answered beforehand.

[Barkeep49]

I personally hate being converted. I tried to give players some control over their conversion in my Money Game and it seemed to produce OK results as Mr. W seemed alright with having been converted. I'm not sure though that this was the right thing. I was technically converted in Alan's Big City game but had no problems with that since it was my goal to be converted, so I was never really attached to the good guys to begin with.

While I agree that there is a certain amount of trust disruption in a conversion, I also see it as a way to give the wolves an extra number without giving them another full wolf. The sorcerer's role can be similar, but they don't, traditionally, count in end game purposes for the wolves which is a minus to them.

[Lathum]

I wonder if Mauboy, JeHeinze, McCollins, Sonicyouth, and Clap are all the same person...

[jeheinz72]

I wonder if Mauboy, JeHeinze, McCollins, Sonicyouth, and Clap are all the same person...

Well I have 9 personalities, it's just taking awhile for the others to get around to registering here.


In all seriousness though, another "referral" will likely be signing up for this game, a complete newbie (never played before)

[Lathum]

Well I have 9 personalities, it's just taking awhile for the others to get around to registering here.


In all seriousness though, another "referral" will likely be signing up for this game, a complete newbie (never played before)

i was wondering where you went on the weekend...

[jeheinz72]

i was wondering where you went on the weekend...

that's clapspamsa's time.

[mauchow]

I haven't decided yet if I'm in. . .

Probably not but I'll let you know by tomorrow morning'ish.

[path12]

Man, jeheinz is the most popular guy ever!!!

[jeheinz72]

Man, jeheinz is the most popular guy ever!!!

It helps being virtually addicted to online leagues.

[Passacaglia]

This is good. I will really need a lot of people for my next game, coming soon.

[Chief Rum]

All right, I was going to take a break, and I may go back to a break after this game. But I can't miss an Alan T game. Put me in, sucka!

[Sonic Youth]

Interesting. I now have a wider understanding of certain aspects of game play and how other roles can be played.

Where would I find a Mafia game to preuse through?

[The Jackal]

What's the most players you've had in a game over here?

[Alan T]

Interesting. I now have a wider understanding of certain aspects of game play and how other roles can be played.

Where would I find a Mafia game to preuse through?

Here is probably a good place to start learning about the Mafia game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_Game


What's the most players you've had in a game over here?

I think we had 29 or so in one game, but we've had 20+ a bunch before.

[Chief Rum]

Yup, I know I had 24 or so for Jack the Ripper. And even then that wasn't the most ever at that point (that game was played about 16 months ago).

[Narcizo]

I'll keep converting you. You are great to have around as a wolf, precisely because a) you're the most paranoid wolf I've ever seen ;) which leads to b) you think of scenarios that are just so crazy they might work!!!!.

That's fine when there's someone level-headed around to make sure we still make the sensible moves. Not so good if I'm allowed to decide what we should do.

I've been thinking it would be pretty neat if there was a way to create a sub-forum for the wolves, which is hidden to everyone else. I'd love to read what wolves have been saying to each other after a game. But I realise that would be impossible to implement here.

[Lathum]

What's the most players you've had in a game over here?

one of Saldanas games, star wars or Potter had about 29 IIRC

[Alan T]

I couldn't find the one that I thought had 29 people. Looking through, I saw both Saldana's Harry Potter game and St.Cronin's Rome game had 28 people in them.

[Qwikshot]

Alan, I'm in if you want me.

[Alan T]

Alan, I'm in if you want me.

Would love to have you play!

[mauchow]

I'm going to stay out of it this time, guys. Good luck.

[mauchow]

I'm going to stay out of it this time, guys/gals. Good luck.

[Raiders Army]

aw man, you were going to be my first vote!

[TazFTW]

I would like to participate.

[Abe Sargent]

If there is no player cap, then I'm in.

[Alan T]

No player cap, happy to have both of you!

[RendeR]

I actually have to bow out of this one, I will be out of town for 3-4 days right in the middle of it all.

[claphamsa]

u think youll live long enough for it to matter?

[The Jackal]

This is gonna be fun.

[claphamsa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8raEUQxQg

[The Jackal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8raEUQxQg

Fear me.

[Swaggs]

I probably will not be real accessible for the first day or two and I'll be at work at the deadline on most days, but I'll give this one a shot.

[Alan T]

In order to give anyone who will have issues with the first day deadline being monday 3pm ET, There will be no vote that day, the only thing I will need by that deadline will be a PM with a choice of where you would like to go your first day off the boat.

I have decided that it won't hurt the game at all for those to be announced before the game starts, so anyone who won't be available for Day0 can PM their choice to me before they leave for the weekend.

I will have that list up later tonight.

[Lathum]

this game needs to start

[Alan T]

this game needs to start

If everyone would prefer, I could start the game on Friday with Day 0, same deadline of monday. I know some people aren't going to be around this weekend though, so it wouldn't be fair to move the start day up earlier I don't think.

Is there anyone opposed to starting on friday and just running one long weekend day to start?

[claphamsa]

Im all for that!

[jeheinz72]

I can dig it.

[Passacaglia]

Make it so.

[Lathum]

I guess te question about tat is are you expecting more sign ups?

[Alan T]

I guess te question about tat is are you expecting more sign ups?


3-4 days I think in most cases is enough for signups. There are still some people that don't play much these days that I would love to see play again, but there will be more games after mine, and I'm pretty excited about everyone who's signed up to play this game.

[Chief Rum]

Given everyone already signed up, I think we have a strong enough group herre. Let's get it going! :)

[Alan T]

Based on the responses I have gotten in this thread and via PM, I fully plan on starting up the game during the early part of the day tommorrow. Unless I get some serious objection from someone that I really want to play in this game that this is tough on them, I'll go with this.

Day 0 will still end on Monday though, so will be a 72 hour long extended day 0, I do have people who won't be on at all during the weekend.

[Swaggs]

Important Posts:
Rules (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1696139#post1696139)


Player List:

1) The Jackal
2) Nfg22
3) Path12
4) jeheinz72
5) Barkeep49
7) Lathum
8) claphasma
9) Passacaglia
10) St.Cronin
11) Hoopsguy
12) PurdueBrad
13) Raiders Army
14) oliegirl
15) Sonic Youth
16) ntndeacon
17) mccollins
18) Chief Rum
19) Qwikshot
20) TazFTW
21) Anxiety
6) Swaggs
22)


This makes me suspicious of myself!

[Alan T]

This makes me suspicious of myself!

I can't count! Its because Render dropped out, and I wanted to keep track of the number of players for balancing reasons. :)

[KWhit]

3-4 days I think in most cases is enough for signups. There are still some people that don't play much these days that I would love to see play again, but there will be more games after mine, and I'm pretty excited about everyone who's signed up to play this game.

Have you already sent out the roles? If not, I'll play.

[Alan T]

Have you already sent out the roles? If not, I'll play.

Nope! Signups are open for a few more hours this morning. Glad to have you!

[Sonic Youth]

9am Friday? I guess I can leave the computer on a bit longer.

[Alan T]

Ok, closing signups to send out initial PMs and start the game shortly.

[Alan T]

Finally, as everyone has boarded the ship and settles in, you all walk up on to the deck to wave goodbye to the city of Miami. As Florida becomes less and less visible in the distance, you take a look around the ship and try to decide what to do first. This will be an excellent vacation!

Each of you have received the following pamphlet, listing all of the possible activities to be done at your first destination of Cozumel, Mexico:

The Conquistadors first saw Mexico from the shores of Cozumel while searching for gold. Today, visitors to the island continue to seek out gold and silver jewelry in the shops of San Miguel while having a great time in its many local bars and restaurants. Plus, the waters around Cozumel's sheltered coral reefs make this one of the best snorkeling areas in the world.


- Explore the ruins of the ancient Mayan city of Tul'um
- Chankanaab National Marine Park
- Sit back and relax in the white sand of Playa Mia Beach
- Take a Jeep Safari adventure through the tropical landscape of Cozumel's east side.
- Join the Fiesta party boat for a fun-filled trip to Playa del Sol with margaritas, rum punch and a live band
- Take a two-person canoe to a private peach paradise, Passion island
- Snorkel in the clear sapphire-colored water around Cozumel's coral reefs.
-Go shopping in Cozumel, which is regarded as the "St.Thomas of the Western Caribbean." Find great prices on diamonds, colored gemstones, jewelry, watches, gold, silver or even Oriental Rugs. You can also find mexican housewares or various local crafts.

In addition to these various sites, you can also choose to just stay aboard the ship if you are not feeling well or do not want to see Cozumel.

Day 0 has started. Today there is no vote even though you are traveling to Cozumel, Mexico. The only Action that I need today is a PM from each of you listing your choice of which of the above activities that you wish to go on for Day 1. Some of the activities are limited in the number of people attending, so a good idea might be to list your top 3 choices in a PM to me.

Day 0 ends Monday 3pm ET. All PMs are due by that point.

[Alan T]

Everyone should have received a PM. If you didn't get it, please let me know. Also remember if you wish to talk to me or ask questions via AIM, please drop me a PM with your AIM name so I can add you to my list. (I can't receive messages from people not on my list).

[Raiders Army]

Choices sent! Is it first come, first serve?

[Passacaglia]

A private peach paradise? Sounds intriguing!

[Alan T]

Choices sent! Is it first come, first serve?

Yep, first come, first serve only for specific activities that have a limit.

A private peach paradise? Sounds intriguing!

Yeah.. that should be private beach paradise. That must have gotten past the cruise line editor staff.

[Passacaglia]

Yeah.. that should be private beach paradise. That must have gotten past the cruise line editor staff.

Oh, never mind, then.

[Lathum]

destination sent

[claphamsa]

checking is a villegar, but i think we all are arent we?

i object to the destination, how can they all not have margaritas involved?

[Passacaglia]

checking is a villegar, but i think we all are arent we?

i object to the destination, how can they all not have margaritas involved?

Margaritas while scuba diving seems like a waste.

[claphamsa]

yeah, but you have to take breaks at some point!

[path12]

Checking in and destination sent. I wonder if it will be advantageous at some point to say where we're going......

[mccollins]

I wasn't clear on whether we were allowed to tell?
(Well, we might not get our first choice anyway...)

[Qwikshot]

"Oh joy, the boat is going...I do say, I do think this will be a blast, y'know I do alot of passive research thanks to the almighty television, and they had this program on about sharks...and then y'know, I know something about sharks, isn't that nice...and so, you know I think I recall that if you see a shark barrelling down on you as you swim around, give a nice snog on the nose before it slides you down it's gullet and it'll just spit you right out, pat-tooey...and then you can say bye-bye mr. sharky...or toothy...wouldn't that be a great animal character, just like Flipper and Lassie...Sharky the friendly shark, but not too friendly...so yeah, no swimming for me...Where's the bar?!?"

(OOC: checking in, be back Monday)

[claphamsa]

"Oh joy, the boat is going...I do say, I do think this will be a blast, y'know I do alot of passive research thanks to the almighty television, and they had this program on about sharks...and then y'know, I know something about sharks, isn't that nice...and so, you know I think I recall that if you see a shark barrelling down on you as you swim around, give a nice snog on the nose before it slides you down it's gullet and it'll just spit you right out, pat-tooey...and then you can say bye-bye mr. sharky...or toothy...wouldn't that be a great animal character, just like Flipper and Lassie...Sharky the friendly shark, but not too friendly...so yeah, no swimming for me...Where's the bar?!?"

(OOC: checking in, be back Monday)

all this talk of sharks seems like your deflecting, maybe setting the shark up as a fall guy!!!!

[jeheinz72]

Checking in, looking forward to the nice vacation. Destination sent.

I'm effectively gone until Monday now...

Tally HO!

[claphamsa]

Tally HO? isnt that a pirate thing? sounds wolfish....

[Raiders Army]

Tally HO? isnt that a pirate thing? sounds wolfish....

Sounds like a pimy thing to me.

[Raiders Army]

Sounds like a pimy thing to me.

Pimp...not pimy

[jeheinz72]

I don't know where I got that from exactly...

[The Jackal]

I don't know where I got that from exactly...

It's the inner HO in you.

Consider this me checkin' in, looking forwards to seeing how this game runs.

[st.cronin]

Checking in and destination sent. I wonder if it will be advantageous at some point to say where we're going......

My initial assumption is that each activity corresponds to a role, for example:

- Explore the ruins of the ancient Mayan city of Tul'um seer?
- Chankanaab National Marine Park
- Sit back and relax in the white sand of Playa Mia Beach seer?
- Take a Jeep Safari adventure through the tropical landscape of Cozumel's east side.bodyguard?
- Join the Fiesta party boat for a fun-filled trip to Playa del Sol with margaritas, rum punch and a live band wolves?
- Take a two-person canoe to a private peach paradise, Passion island lovers?
- Snorkel in the clear sapphire-colored water around Cozumel's coral reefs.
-Go shopping in Cozumel, which is regarded as the "St.Thomas of the Western Caribbean." Find great prices on diamonds, colored gemstones, jewelry, watches, gold, silver or even Oriental Rugs. You can also find mexican housewares or various local crafts.

Those are just wild guesses.

[claphamsa]

um.... that seems a bit of a strtetch, but at least your thinking :)

[mccollins]

I thought the same thing ;)

[st.cronin]

um.... that seems a bit of a strtetch, but at least your thinking :)

I'm sure there's more to it than what I laid out.

[Raiders Army]

Maybe staying on the boat is a vanilla villager role as well.

[path12]

Maybe staying on the boat is a vanilla villager role as well.


My initial thought was that might be a prime place to be converted to a wolf by one of the crew members.

[st.cronin]

My initial thought was that might be a prime place to be converted to a wolf by one of the crew members.

Well, except that I think at the beginning none of us are wolves yet... so converted by whom?

[Raiders Army]

Well, except that I think at the beginning none of us are wolves yet... so converted by whom?

Maybe not a conversion, but if you choose to stay on the boat you'll become a wolf. I think the boat will be either where the vanilla villagers come from or where the wolves come from.

[path12]

Well, except that I think at the beginning none of us are wolves yet... so converted by whom?

Just generic crew, not a specific player. We know the first officer or whoever was killed last night, so there's got to be a starting point for the wolfdom to spread from to the active players.

[TazFTW]

Well, except that I think at the beginning none of us are wolves yet... so converted by whom?


This guy.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1313/isaaczk4.jpg

[Greyroofoo]

I want to join if its not too late

[Chief Rum]

I have sent in a destination.

I don't think one spot automatically leads to wolfhood. I think that might end up becoming obvious in some way, and then all the wolves are hung as soon as one is. I don't think Alan would do that.

I thnik st.cronin is right that this will be more complicated. Alan tends toward the more complicated. My guess is the wolves will come from multiple places, with the one chosen from a given spot being determined by some factor like order of destination choice or game sign up order.

In any case, as long as there is a possibility that role can be determined from your first destination, I think it best we keep that a secret for now.

[ntndeacon]

my destination is picked. A little fun at one of these activitirs will goa long way to relax us all.

[PurdueBrad]

Destinations sent as well and looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

[path12]

I've been on one actual cruise in my life and enjoyed it about a thousand times more than I expected to. Hopefully this one won't disappoint either. I could use the R&R.

[Barkeep49]

I sent in my destinations and agree with cronin that the destinations mean something, but I don't think I buy any of his analysis except about the canoe.

[st.cronin]

I sent in my destinations and agree with cronin that the destinations mean something, but I don't think I buy any of his analysis except about the canoe.

I don't actually buy that analysis either, ftr. Those were just wild guesses.

[nfg22]

Checking in...this may or may not be fun. BTW I am just a passenger at the moment.

[Abe Sargent]

Your Abe has arrived

[Chief Rum]

Checking in...this may or may not be fun. BTW I am just a passenger at the moment.

We all are.

[claphamsa]

I dunno, abe sounds like a wolfish name.....

[nfg22]

We all are.

Thats what you think....

[Chief Rum]

Thats what you think....

No, I am pretty sure. Alan described this game a while back and seems to state again that's the way here, too, in the rules. We are all passengers at this very moment. It is our N0 decision, I would figure, that will determine which of us is underground. There is no randomness in this game, including the handing out of roles.

[Passacaglia]

My hunch is that Alan has a set number of wolves in mind for the game, and that all the wolves will consist of people who have gone to the same place -- and that place is whichever one the right amount of people go to (so if four people go shopping, and he wanted four wolves, everyone who went shopping is a wolf).

[Lathum]

I am curious to know if we will be told who accompanied us on our excursions

[path12]

Your Abe has arrived

We've been waiting for you.

[Swaggs]

I hope this is a booze cruise.

I'm checking in.

Am I correct in assuming that all we need to do before tomorrow at 3 PM is send in my destination?

[claphamsa]

yes.

[Alan T]

I hope this is a booze cruise.

I'm checking in.

Am I correct in assuming that all we need to do before tomorrow at 3 PM is send in my destination?

Correct!

[Chief Rum]

My hunch is that Alan has a set number of wolves in mind for the game, and that all the wolves will consist of people who have gone to the same place -- and that place is whichever one the right amount of people go to (so if four people go shopping, and he wanted four wolves, everyone who went shopping is a wolf).

Interesting theory. The randomness of the point of wolf origin is a new aspect I didn't consider. I still don't think Alan would make so obvious a connection amongst wolves.

[nfg22]

No, I am pretty sure. Alan described this game a while back and seems to state again that's the way here, too, in the rules. We are all passengers at this very moment. It is our N0 decision, I would figure, that will determine which of us is underground. There is no randomness in this game, including the handing out of roles.

Im sorry sir. I guess I still assume everyone gets the tone of my posts. I was joking about being a villager for the moment, because it is a very wolfy think to say yet we are all villagers. Then I was just messing with you by saying something suspicious. Sorry.

[Chief Rum]

Im sorry sir. I guess I still assume everyone gets the tone of my posts. I was joking about being a villager for the moment, because it is a very wolfy think to say yet we are all villagers. Then I was just messing with you by saying something suspicious. Sorry.

No need to apologize. I was pretty sure you meant it that way. But I didn't want anyone else reading (particularly newer players) taking it literally and thinking we already have wolves amongst us when I am pretty sure we don't.

[claphamsa]

could this back and forth be an attenpt by wolves to make it look like they are on other teams?

[nfg22]

could this back and forth be an attenpt by wolves to make it look like they are on other teams?

A wolf would accuse normal villagers of just that...EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!

[Raiders Army]

This is the easiest game of WW ever. Obviously the wolves' fur will stink due to the salt air so all we have to do is vote for whoever stinks the most.

Now, if we could only smell over the internet...

[Lathum]

This is the easiest game of WW ever. Obviously the wolves' fur will stink due to the salt air so all we have to do is vote for whoever stinks the most.

Now, if we could only smell over the internet...

oh shit.....

[Lathum]

Im sorry sir. I guess I still assume everyone gets the tone of my posts. I was joking about being a villager for the moment, because it is a very wolfy think to say yet we are all villagers. Then I was just messing with you by saying something suspicious. Sorry.

people have been lynched for far less

[claphamsa]

people have been lynched for far less

true, but not before anyon knows potential rolls.... and there is no vote today :) so were just being silly!

[jeheinz72]

I don't know if I buy the location theory, we'll see though.

[Barkeep49]

I don't know if I buy the location theory, we'll see though.
Do you have a different suggestion of a way roles could be given non-randomly?

[jeheinz72]

Do you have a different suggestion of a way roles could be given non-randomly?

I think I'll have one after I see Day 0's results.

[Qwikshot]

"Crikey, they put the good stuff in these drinks, and the sun's shining right nicely. Shuffleboard anyone? No, well I wonder if the casino is open? I was wondering what to choose to do after getting down to Mexico, of course, I could stay on the ship too, plenty to do round here, but I guess I'll give it a go, I mean you don't stick around on the ship when you've paid so much to do some traveling, right, I mean what am I going to tell friends and family back home that I didn't head out onto beach not even once?!? Not getting my money's worth that way...someone get me another margarita!"

[PurdueBrad]

Nibblin' on sponge cake,
watchin' the sun bake;
All of those tourists covered with oil.
Strummin' my six string on my front porch swing.
Smell those shrimp
They're beginnin' to boil.

Wasted away again in Margaritaville,
Searchin' for my lost shaker of salt.
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame,
But I know it's all these damn wolves.

[Barkeep49]

I think I'll have one after I see Day 0's results.
That's the wrong time to suggest it. After the results you might be bad. By talking now we at least all know that we're on the good side.

[jeheinz72]

That's the wrong time to suggest it. After the results you might be bad. By talking now we at least all know that we're on the good side.

Well, I see your point, but anything I might suggest now would be nothing more than an unsubstantiated wild-ass guess.

So then, no, I don't have any theories :)

[The Jackal]

I don't think all the roles are necessarily going to be handed out after day 0, either, for what it's worth.

[Barkeep49]

I don't think all the roles are necessarily going to be handed out after day 0, either, for what it's worth.
I agree which is why we can't win until Day 4. I think at that time we can assume that all roles which are to be had are in the game.

[Alan T]

The cruise ship comes to dock at Cozumel and you all make way to exit the ship. Many of you have chosen various adventures to spend your day, and it appears that it will be beautiful out! Wasting no time, you set forth for your day excursions to see what adventures may wait!

PMs will be sent out shortly!

[The Jackal]

Well, I headed to the ruins, and apparently so did a lot of other people - but I didn't receive a role or any sort of information. I bet the first person to go found somethin.

[Alan T]

All PMs have been sent. Everyone should have received one. If you did not receive a PM, please drop me a PM so I can make sure that you get yours.

Deadline for responding to any events is 10pm EST tonight. At that point will start Day 1, which will have a vote and have a deadline of 3pm EST tommorrow.

[Lathum]

ok, so I think we can toss out the theory that everyone who visited a ceretian location is a wolf since I was told who else was with me.

Anyone see a downside to revealing where we went?

[jeheinz72]

I don't see one, no.

I went on the safari. It was...interesting. My driver was shot and killed and I was told never to go back.

[Passacaglia]

I saw some ancient Mayan artifacts, and nothing happened while there.

[hoopsguy]

I went shopping and did not learn of anyone else during the process.

I now have a series of three other actions I can take for this evening, one of which pretty clearly suggests a role to me.

I'm amused that I was able to not post for a single day (72+ hour day!!!) and not be called out for it :) Now that I've finished up that little social experiment, time to focus on a game of werewolf.

Jackal + Lathum - do you see value in publishing who else you saw at your location?

[claphamsa]

got drunk on the beach with some local chicas.... nothign exciting (forgot my condoms)

[mccollins]

I saw some ancient Mayan artifacts, and nothing happened while there.

Same here. Apparently it was the experience of a lifetime!

[The Jackal]

Jackal + Lathum - do you see value in publishing who else you saw at your location?

I wasn't told the names of anyone else who was there, just that there were a lot of people interested in it.

[Lathum]

I have no problem telling who was with me buut I will wait a bit to see if anyone has concerns.

I would assume if you didn't meet up with anyone else it is because you were the only one who choose that activity

[Raiders Army]

I went to the Chankanaab National Marine Park. I was not alone and it was popular. We swam with the dolphins, so that was nice. I also don't know who went with me.

[Abe Sargent]

I went snorkeling, and was joined by one other. Nothing happened - boring.

[Abe Sargent]

You know, I was hoping for pirate treasure being found or something, but nope.

[TazFTW]

I went shopping and I didn't see anyone else from the cruise.

[Qwikshot]

I don't see one, no.

I went on the safari. It was...interesting. My driver was shot and killed and I was told never to go back.

"Yeah man, this sucked, I was expecting to be seeing some fantastic Mexican creatures, whatever they may be, and then this crazy stuff happened. Now me and the ketchup man along with someone else are trying to figure out what to do...and we're still stuck out there...it'll be getting dark soon and I need some margaritas"

[path12]

I wasn't told of anyone else specifically being at Playa Mia Beach, and nothing out of the ordinary seemed to have happened.

[Lathum]

I am confused. JeHeinze says he saw no one but qwikshot says he was with heinze?

[claphamsa]

heinze also said he got home, and quicksnot said they were stuck there

[ntndeacon]

hmmm very intriguing conversation we are having. Looks like Raiders was in my group, though I did not know that ahead of him saying it.

[Raiders Army]

"Yeah man, this sucked, I was expecting to be seeing some fantastic Mexican creatures, whatever they may be, and then this crazy stuff happened. Now me and the ketchup man along with someone else are trying to figure out what to do...and we're still stuck out there...it'll be getting dark soon and I need some margaritas"

What are the quotes around your statement for? Are you saying that in character?

[st.cronin]

I saw some people where I was, and, like hoops, was given some options about an action. I don't think any of the choices point to a specific role, however.

[Lathum]

I would agree with Cronin. He is one of the people I saw and I am assuming we got the same choices. I'm no junkie but I like to drink alot

[st.cronin]

I would agree with Cronin. He is one of the people I saw and I am assuming we got the same choices. I'm no junkie but I like to drink alot

I've been known to experiment. :cool:

[nfg22]

I was the other with Anxiety in the ocean. I have an option but it looks to be without a consequence of roles.

[Raiders Army]

I have no options after my excursion.

[hoopsguy]

FWIW, shopping was my first choice - was anyone forced to take a secondary option?

[The Jackal]

I'm just curious what people are dealing with event responses. And I'm jealous of the people who had margaritas.. gimme.

[path12]

I have no options after my excursion.

Neither do I.

[jeheinz72]

I am confused. JeHeinze says he saw no one but qwikshot says he was with heinze?

I meant I didn't see a problem with us revealing our excursions (my bad, should've quoted your post)

I saw him and CR on the safari, just us 3 as far as I know (well unless you count the pyscho who killed the driver, threatened us and ran off).

[jeheinz72]

heinze also said he got home, and quicksnot said they were stuck there

???

No I didn't.

It is an option, but that hasn't been done. Basically the driver was killed, the dude split and now the 3 of us have a 3-pronged choice as to what to do next.

[claphamsa]

oh. thanks for the clarify!

[Abe Sargent]

I was the other with Anxiety in the ocean. I have an option but it looks to be without a consequence of roles.

I can confirm he was with me, but i have no choices at all. Nothing to respond to in the slightest

[TazFTW]

So does the safari group choose what to do next as a group?

3 people with 3 options means there's a chance that each person chooses something different.

[PurdueBrad]

Hey guys, I went on the romantic canoe ride, just me and Barkeep, it was precious. We're left with a couple choices for the night as well (try, oh try to keep your minds out of the gutter).

[Chief Rum]

I meant I didn't see a problem with us revealing our excursions (my bad, should've quoted your post)

I saw him and CR on the safari, just us 3 as far as I know (well unless you count the pyscho who killed the driver, threatened us and ran off).

I wish you were a little more reticent to reveal others names than I am. We know way too little about this game to be talking openly about who we are with. But I guess now that's out of the bag.

So did you guys get the same choices I did? Don't say what you chose--not sure that's a good idea yet.

[Barkeep49]

FWIW, shopping was my first choice - was anyone forced to take a secondary option?
Canoe was my first choice and I got it, as Purdue has mentioned.

[Swaggs]

I saw some people where I was, and, like hoops, was given some options about an action. I don't think any of the choices point to a specific role, however.

This applies to me, as well.

Hopefully, we can uncover some further information from the choices.

[Qwikshot]

What are the quotes around your statement for? Are you saying that in character?

"Ci"

OOC: I would assume the options selected via PM will determine further what we do...but I believe that is up to Alan T.

[KWhit]

I went to the ruins. Evidently it was a popular spot, but I wasn't told who else went. Nothing exciting happened.

[Alan T]

Deadline. Sending out some PMs then will end the turn.

[Alan T]

You return to the ship after your day out and about in Cozumel. What a great time hopefully had by all! You check the ship announcements as you board and see that you have one more day to stay in Cozumel, so will have a chance to see other attractions before the ship leaves!

Your eye turns to a different announcement posted by the captain however. Although the tone appears to try to keep the passengers calm, it is very clear that the death of the first officer concerns him, and he suspects future wrong doing. He has asked for any passenger onboard the ship to come and provide any information regarding suspicious characters. If any passenger has enough other passengers that suspect them of wrong doing, he will kick them off of the ship!

As everyone passes through the hallways, it is rumored that someone didn't return, perhaps they were kicked off already??
Path12 appears to no longer be aboard the ship.

Very well, on to your room for a good night's sleep, and to decide where to go for tommorrow from the posted list:

The Conquistadors first saw Mexico from the shores of Cozumel while searching for gold. Today, visitors to the island continue to seek out gold and silver jewelry in the shops of San Miguel while having a great time in its many local bars and restaurants. Plus, the waters around Cozumel's sheltered coral reefs make this one of the best snorkeling areas in the world.


- Explore the ruins of the ancient Mayan city of Tul'um
- Chankanaab National Marine Park
- Sit back and relax in the white sand of Playa Mia Beach
- Take a Jeep Safari adventure through the tropical landscape of Cozumel's east side.
- Join the Fiesta party boat for a fun-filled trip to Playa del Sol with margaritas, rum punch and a live band
- Snorkel in the clear sapphire-colored water around Cozumel's coral reefs.
-Go shopping in Cozumel, which is regarded as the "St.Thomas of the Western Caribbean." Find great prices on diamonds, colored gemstones, jewelry, watches, gold, silver or even Oriental Rugs. You can also find mexican housewares or various local crafts.

Turn 0 has ended. Turn 1 has now begun, and this is a voting turn. Today you need to do the following two actions:

1) Vote in this thread someone whom you wish to propose to the captain as being "suspicious" in an attempt to kick them off of the ship for good. Please make sure to Bold your Vote and have it stand out so I don't miss it.

2) Please PM me with what attraction you wish to visit for turn 2. Same as before, it is a good idea to list multiple choices in case your first choice is full.

Turn 1 voting phase ends at Tuesday, 3:00pm EST

[ntndeacon]

not exactly sure what that will mean. did he stay off out of fear or just get lost? I need to go back and look to see where he went.

[Lathum]

so is Path out of the game then?

[ntndeacon]

dola he claimed to be at the Playa de Mayo beach with no options given him.

[ntndeacon]

I sort of doubt it Lathum. course that is just a guess. If he does I bet we have tons of questions for him.

[Raiders Army]

dola he claimed to be at the Playa de Mayo beach with no options given him.

Two important pieces of information. Knowing that I am a villager and that I publicly said that I had no options given to me and he said this as well, I would guess that he was a prime candidate for the wolves. The strange thing is that someone got killed before Day 1!

[Raiders Army]

I sort of doubt it Lathum. course that is just a guess. If he does I bet we have tons of questions for him.

Ah, this makes more sense than him being killed before Day 1. Maybe he can get back on the boat?

[Raiders Army]

I don't see one, no.

I went on the safari. It was...interesting. My driver was shot and killed and I was told never to go back.

Without too much to go on here, I'm going to

VOTE JEHEINZ72

since he claims his driver was shot and killed. How do we know that wolves don't know how to use guns? They can definitely drive.

[TazFTW]

I think it is most likely that path12 is not dead
That would be a crappy way to start a game
He must be on some mission to get ahead
Hopefully it is not something lame.

[Passacaglia]

So do you have to rhyme
all the time?

[TazFTW]

Not too sure about that
I decided not to ask
I'm just going to stand pat
And hope to end this task

[hoopsguy]

Taz, would you be able to give us full sonnets just to make this a little more interesting?

[hoopsguy]

BTW, I have nothing to report from my action - willing to share what it was if people are interested in pursuing that line of discussion.

[nfg22]

I found a necklace in the ocean. My choice was to keep it or leave it. I kept it and I am now wearing it.

[mccollins]

Your itenerary for this trip:

- Depart the port of Miami, Florida
- Spend two sunny days in Cozumel, Mexico
- Spend a day in George Town, Grand Cayman
- Two beautiful days in Montego Bay, Jamaica
- One final day in Labadee, Haiti before returning back to Miami

Looks like we're still on schedule. An interesting point to keep track of...

[Chief Rum]

Without too much to go on here, I'm going to

VOTE JEHEINZ72

since he claims his driver was shot and killed. How do we know that wolves don't know how to use guns? They can definitely drive.

Umm, wrong tree to bark up. He has two people present to back him in Qwikshot and myself. We were all in that jeep, and I can guarantee everything jeheinz said is pretty much what happened to all of us.

BTW, we had three choices for after the driver was killed, and all three of us chose to push the driver's body out and drive back to the cruise ship. I have a lot of confidence right now that jeheinz and Qwikshot are all currently as nonwolfish as myself.

[Chief Rum]

I won't be around before the first deadline, so I have to vote now. I would prefer to have more time consider a vote, but you do what you have to.

Since path went to the beach, and it seems something funny happened to him, I have to suspect one other person who said he went to the beach: claphamsa. Sure, not a strong vote, but at this early stage, I don't have much else to go on. I doubt Alan would make it this obvious, but it is what it is.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[The Jackal]

I learned nothing about anyone during day 0, and CR's suspicion of clap makes sense enough for me to cast a vote there currently. Don't really want it turning into a run but the fact that they were both at the beach and one didn't return is unsettling (though I bet others were there as well?)

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[Sonic Youth]

So, can we vote for Path? Or the shark that took him?

[TazFTW]

I'm not trying to be smarmy
but I have to cast a Vote
so I choose Raiders Army
to get kicked off the boat.

[TazFTW]

And with that I'm spent
I'm off to hit the hay
destination PM sent
Now to just go and lay