Why AP2K8 will look like the Vick/Owens commercial

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Um, yes.

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[Blzer]

I think I've said it before... the graphics in that game aren't that stunning. Give it the gameplay fielding camera, take out the snow intensity, and it actually doesn't look that hard to replicate. The lighting in the commercial is bad enough as it is.

Anyway, the hardest part for them to be able to replicate would be those exact animations... we'd have to go for a little more canned approach than that, unless they use NaturalMotion. But the commercial is only really deceiving to you guys. They give many effects to it to make it look good, but it's not the best thing I've ever seen, nor do I think it's impossible to do.

That said, I expect APF 2K8 to look better than this, but in a different direction of visuals than what they showed us here.

[jmood88]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blzer

I think I've said it before... the graphics in that game aren't that stunning. Give it the gameplay fielding camera, take out the snow intensity, and it actually doesn't look that hard to replicate. The lighting in the commercial is bad enough as it is. Anyway, the hardest part for them to be able to replicate would be those exact animations... we'd have to go for a little more canned approach than that, unless they use NaturalMotion. But the commercial is only really deceiving to you guys. They give many effects to it to make it look good, but it's not the best thing I've ever seen, nor do I think it's impossible to do. That said, I expect APF 2K8 to look better than this, but in a different direction of visuals than what they showed us here.

I don't know what you're looking at. You do realize that they used computer generated stuff and live action, right? You can't get much better graphics than real life.

[blackceasar]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmood88

I don't know what you're looking at. You do realize that they used computer generated stuff and live action, right? You can't get much better graphics than real life.

J, I want to send some of these guys to a week long class in 3D design.

Madden and APF are NOT going to look ANYTHING like that commercial anytime soon. Simply put you cannot render anything close to that in real time on the fly. If that was the case, it wouldnt cost over 100 million dollars to make some of these CG movies ala Final Fantasy the movie, Finding Nemo, etc. These people dont realize it takes full blown out render houses with tens if not hundereds of high end computers working together in tandem over long periods of time just to render a few seconds of a CG movie..I dont know what kool aide these dudes have been drinking to think they got a 300 dollar or 600 dollar real time rendering machine in thier house. lol

[mojopin]

Look closer.

http://www.vidaextra.com/images/madden06ng.jpg

http://www.mastudios.com/images/portfolio_nike2.jpg

I couldn't find a bigger picture from the Nike commercial, but I wanted a still from the video to show you what I'm talking about.

What I'm saying is that the 3-D models used in the Nike commercial are just super-rendered versions of Madden models. Madden's models are chunky -- note how Vick has the same torso as McNabb (and seemingly every other player in the game, give or take a gut).

When I watched that commercial, I wasn't impressed only because what I saw were hyper-stylized Madden graphics. The proportions are just not realistic, even when you dress 'em up real pretty and splice them with real images.

In short, no: I wouldn't really want 2k8 to look like the graphics in that commercial. Maybe I'm just being picky.

[jmood88]

Quote: Originally Posted by mojopin

Look closer. http://www.vidaextra.com/images/madden06ng.jpg http://www.mastudios.com/images/portfolio_nike2.jpg I couldn't find a bigger picture from the Nike commercial, but I wanted a still from the video to show you what I'm talking about. What I'm saying is that the 3-D models used in the Nike commercial are just super-rendered versions of Madden models. Madden's models are chunky -- note how Vick has the same torso as McNabb (and seemingly every other player in the game, give or take a gut). When I watched that commercial, I wasn't impressed only because what I saw were hyper-stylized Madden graphics. The proportions are just not realistic, even when you dress 'em up real pretty and splice them with real images. In short, no: I wouldn't really want 2k8 to look like the graphics in that commercial. Maybe I'm just being picky.

First of all, madden looks nothing like that and second of all, tiburon purposely made their rendered video to look like the nike commericial.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by mojopin

Look closer. http://www.vidaextra.com/images/madden06ng.jpg http://www.mastudios.com/images/portfolio_nike2.jpg I couldn't find a bigger picture from the Nike commercial, but I wanted a still from the video to show you what I'm talking about. What I'm saying is that the 3-D models used in the Nike commercial are just super-rendered versions of Madden models. Madden's models are chunky -- note how Vick has the same torso as McNabb (and seemingly every other player in the game, give or take a gut).

You made a comment about seeing MADDEN models in the commercial hence the reason I ROTFLMAO, not "super rendered Madden models." And for the record, Madden looks nothing like that.

THIS is what Madden looks like:


NOT this:

[mojopin]

All three use inflated proportions to my eye, but okay. No reason for hostility.