Euphoria mummerings

[pistonpete]

so if i understand correctly, with euphoria, if two guys collided on a tackle the resulting moving images would not only reflect real life results but also never ever be the same? in other words instead of having two video clips (one of each guy) of steven jackson trucking deangelo hall, you would, dependent on a ton of physics info and each avatars size, weight and location, get different outcomes, not redundant animations? if that's true and this is in the game (get a clue EA), then this game will be revolutionary to say the least. in theory, you could play thousands of games and never see the exact same tackle, ever! that would make this game so fresh and visually amazing. if this is so, i can see why 2k isn't showing any videos of gameplay. i would do the same thing. i'd just let the masses think this is going to be a very good game, and bam!!! hit them with this and watch as they and EA's jaw drops to the floor.
(btw, i went back and read thru some threads to come up to speed)

pete

[kneebon5]

Quote: Originally Posted by pistonpete

so if i understand correctly, with euphoria, if two guys collided on a tackle the resulting moving images would not only reflect real life results but also never ever be the same? in other words instead of having two video clips (one of each guy) of steven jackson trucking deangelo hall, you would, dependent on a ton of physics info and each avatars size, weight and location, get different outcomes, not redundant animations? if that's true and this is in the game (get a clue EA), then this game will be revolutionary to say the least. in theory, you could play thousands of games and never see the exact same tackle, ever! that would make this game so fresh and visually amazing. if this is so, i can see why 2k isn't showing any videos of gameplay. i would do the same thing. i'd just let the masses think this is going to be a very good game, and bam!!! hit them with this and watch as they and EA's jaw drops to the floor. (btw, i went back and read thru some threads to come up to speed) pete

the greatest thing about this, if it is in the game. You will have those moments that happen once in history, the big plays, the big hits, i dont know how many times i have dover over the line in EA football, the first time i was like "Cool" and had to show my roomates, the next 50 times i got sick of it.

The key would be that every hit is different, imagine goin up in the air to catch the ball at the 3, and the safety comes in to hit your guy, one time he might flip you over with a low hit, another spin you in the air into the endzone, and another, and so on.

Along with the injuries. Think about when you kill the QB, maybe from the side, by the knees, or hit them high and they smack the back of their heads on the turf.

Gang tackles that get legs hung up under another tackler, twisted, broken. Tons of things could happen, so i guess we will see.

[redbull]

Quote: Originally Posted by pistonpete

so if i understand correctly, with euphoria, if two guys collided on a tackle the resulting moving images would not only reflect real life results but also never ever be the same? in other words instead of having two video clips (one of each guy) of steven jackson trucking deangelo hall, you would, dependent on a ton of physics info and each avatars size, weight and location, get different outcomes, not redundant animations? if that's true and this is in the game (get a clue EA), then this game will be revolutionary to say the least. in theory, you could play thousands of games and never see the exact same tackle, ever! that would make this game so fresh and visually amazing. if this is so, i can see why 2k isn't showing any videos of gameplay. i would do the same thing. i'd just let the masses think this is going to be a very good game, and bam!!! hit them with this and watch as they and EA's jaw drops to the floor. (btw, i went back and read thru some threads to come up to speed) pete

It's just to hard to believe. I don't want to be a pansy, and I have been reading up on NM. Maybe I am being to cynical, because if this is the direction of AP2k8, you are talking about the revolution of sport gaming.

[mr_president]

Quote: Originally Posted by redbull

It's just to hard to believe. I don't want to be a pansy, and I have been reading up on NM. Maybe I am being to cynical, because if this is the direction of AP2k8, you are talking about the revolution of sport gaming.

someone has to do it.....maybe this will also be used for that boxing title that was mentioned last year.

[DaveDQ]

Some more evidence taken from the GI article.

"A good example of the game's blending of AI and animations is in your QB's ability to throw the ball while he's getting tackled. The resulting toss will be subject to all kinds of variables to determine how bad of a throw it is, but giving the player the option to follow through or tuck the ball before its releases shows a lot of confidence in the gameplay"

From 1Up.com:

"a defensive back tipped a ball and his teammate slid to catch it before it hit the ground"

We haven't heard much, but these examples, while not revealing that they are using Euphoria, do imply that we will see animations that have never been seen before.

[smash22]

way to take that old info and make it new info sounds good. Nice find i can't wait to play it or see it at this point.

[Blzer]

I think that the more important thing that this engine does is it completely takes momentum into effect. If there was a 300 lb DE that could run a 4.3 versus a 180 lb HB that could only run a 4.8, the resulting blow would be impenetrable. Tackle ratings will perhaps come into play as well, but I mean... creating guys with some amount of weight will actually mean something this time around.

[kneebon5]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blzer

If there was a 300 lb DE that could run a 4.3 versus a 180 lb HB that could only run a 4.8, the resulting blow would be impenetrable.

i would love to see that hit with Euphoria